13 Oct 2025 07:36:02
Asa, Just saw your response on the SPFL page.
You said you asked a question and no one could answer?
I thought I broke it down and answered it pretty well, to be honest. I went right into your question and explained why you can't really judge him yet.
He was only an interim manager for a few months, taking over from a title-winning Belgian manager who had already failed before him.
Barry isn't a Belgian title-winning manager -he was working towards his Pro Licence while managing Clyde, a part-time football club.
Under those circumstances, and even at clubs like Kelty and Alloa, it's a completely different world compared to managing full-time professional clubs like Sheffield Wednesday or Rangers.
Again, I'll say it: he's never had the backing of a board, the ability to bring in his own players, or the facilities that come with a full-time professional setup.
So we can't state anything as fact it's all pure speculation and opinion.
You asked a question, and I answered it I broke it right down for you.
No disrespect was intended, just an attempt to show that what we're discussing is speculation, not fact.
It can't be fact until Barry has a full season at a proper club with full backing.
Who knows he might actually do a good job, or he might not. We won't know until he's had his own team to work with.
Every other manager gets the benefit of the saying: "It's not his team until he gets his own players. "
So why doesn't Barry get that same leeway?
We need to get away from this speculation on Barry and beating him with a stick for working with these small part time clubs whilst he was gaining his pro licence
It's really unfair and to be honest it is disrespectful to beat anyone with a stick when their trying there best at gaining valuable experience trying to gain there pro licences
He would will be judged if the time ever comes when he goes into a full time club and giving the freedom to bring his own players in
You can judge on his interim period on a squad everyone knew had practically given up on our club
Why we protecting players who failed to live up to expectations when they were brought in under a previous manager For there own style
I'd say we would have been in a better position had Barry carried on instead of Martin maybe had some different players in the defence might look different etc
But that's me speculating not giving facts!
13 Oct 2025 07:56:27
Well said Stig.
This is why I said I'd love to see Ferguson back as a coach with an aim to developing towards being Head Coach some day - similar to the role Charai had under Clement.
13 Oct 2025 08:40:19
That I could agree with EHL, also u spoke well of Dodds methods, is Fergie a possible Assistant to Rohl?
13 Oct 2025 09:24:48
EHL, You think Barry would welcome a move into the next manager team? I wouldn't mind it myself.
13 Oct 2025 10:00:43
Not sure about that Fork - EHL outlined the role Beale did brilliantly as assistant to Gerrard. Not sure Barry has that skill set. EHL said about Barry being a coach, I think that's a good place for him to start. I think BF has something to offer, but not as gaffer. Not at the moment.
13 Oct 2025 10:29:52
Stig I would not be against him getting a coaching role with the aim to develop him.
I judged his time before as a reason why I would not be happy for him to return in the same capacity.
Now you mentioned facilities and board backing.
Danny Rohl managed a full time club that is correct.
Danny Rohl also managed that same club who were not paying debts, not paying players and under a transfer embargo.
Danny Rohl has also never managed a team where he has had full backing to bring his own players in.
Can you now understand my point.
I really enjoyed your response to me stig apart from the first paragraph.
Unfortunately for as good as your response was it did not answer my question.
My question was if Barry is acceptable why not Rohl.
13 Oct 2025 11:33:11
Was meaning in general terms MVG👍.
13 Oct 2025 12:32:33
Sorry Asa
I would and will accept Rohl hope that clarifies that part for you
I will back whoever comes in, I'm not looking for much other than the manager to come in and hopefully change our fortunes
So it's Rohl I'll definitely be behind him 100%.
13 Oct 2025 13:03:05
Because different people have different preferences Asa, that's all it is. It would be a boring world if we all had the same.
13 Oct 2025 14:16:19
Good few posters disagreeing here. I'll say 2 words.
Sir walter. think enough said if coaches or assistant managers can step up. Also look at morhino. Every1 has to start some where. Getting the right team goes a long long way for succes.
13 Oct 2025 10:36:03
Because Barry is a club legend best cpt in our time, loves the club came running when he was asked before, beat jose, Celtic couldn't beat him and has the fire and drive to lift us out of this situ in the short term. rohl was assist at most jobs. means little look at beale. done nothing really got sheff wed a few pos up in the table then left, barry deserves a chance that's why him more than rohl.
13 Oct 2025 16:45:16
I think there's been a lot of unfair criticism of Barry following his stint. I've seen people say that he's had his chance, but really how can that be the case? Inherited a dispirited bunch, put Mourinho"s team out of Eurooe and deservedly beat Celtic once (should have been twice). I thought he did fine and as EHL says, an assistant's appointment might just be the making of him.
13 Oct 2025 18:51:27
Excellent post stig, and i would love barry as a coach, he showed balls to take the job and did it because he adores rangers. He knew what he was up against, that team looked totally shot of confidence/ motivation or any kind of desire. And i mostly agree he would have carried on in the job doing a far better job than RM. He was looking to get mulligan and a couple of other young scottish players, its not unrealistic to believe 4 players used to the spfl would have made more of an impact than aarons, djiga, fernandez and moore. He would be an excellent middle man between sqaud and manager.