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07 Feb 2026 08:57:53
I don't know why this is so difficult for people to understand, but I will try to explain again. It was a good discussion about loans.

I personally would like Rangers to cease straight loans. Yes that subsequently I includes not renewing the loan of Mikey Moore.

We are in a position where we should have the ability to build a squad of players that are our own. I don't know what the Olson responses are all about.

I am not against loans but I think we should utilise loans as long as there is a realistic option to make the loan permanent.



07 Feb 2026 09:22:04
Aphe, whilst I agree in principle, sometimes I think the practicalities of that get in the way, especially initially when building a squad. I still see a place for loans where either we can't afford the guy we want on transfer at that precise moment (less likely these days, granted), or the other time is when the player we want to fill a space is not available at that time. Then we would use a quality loan until we get our long-term player.


Btw, Olsen is different, although still a loan, as he has an option. I don't think either Moore or Olsen is stopping Curtis development, as he won't get into the team at start of games this season. If Moore and Olsen weren't here, then we would have bought other players. Curtis development, unfortunately, at this time is best about getting starts, and that will be outside the club atm.



07 Feb 2026 09:31:50
Think it will be a good few windows before we're loaning players with no option, Aphelion. Why I'd be all over Moore if Spurs allowed it.

I'd prefer every player signed with an option if possible. Many good players just don't cut it for Rangers.



07 Feb 2026 09:35:06
Agree, Aph, loans should be restricted to maybe 1 or 2 if an exceptional talent becomes available. We shouldn't be developing players for other clubs. But it seems to be the way of the world, with options to buy or not in some occasions.



07 Feb 2026 09:48:06
Agree fully. Moore is financially out our reach. Let's just sign a player that's ours to replace him, and he's replaceable.

I'm not convinced he'll go on to be the superstar everyone thinks. He's doing ok in a poor domestic competition. He had a very good game the other night against a team with 10 men, 2nd bottom of the league, and he made a bigger impact when they tired.


He's got potential, and I hope he goes all the way up the top. imo he won't, thou. If anyone thinks otherwise, that's fine. I'm not arguing over it. Time will tell.



07 Feb 2026 09:55:14
I take a slightly different view. Moore is a prime example. If having Moore helps us win the league, then I'm keen to continue this approach. I'd prefer, in parallel, to create our own loan opportunities for our youngsters. If we had Moore next year and also had Curtis out on loan, then I'd be happy, as long as we're stronger and win the league.

In my opinion, we're 3 or 4 year off having a team strong enough to compete in all competitions without this strategy.


The biggest issue / risk is not securing a loan opportunity for our own youngsters.

I also agree with a few comments about Moore and don't want to just jump on the bandwagon wagon. Consistency is the key, and I'm glad we're starting to see this now.

He really looks an exceptional talent.



07 Feb 2026 09:59:02
I don't have a problem with loans if used properly.



07 Feb 2026 10:09:37
Mickey Moore is the perfect example of, if a player improves the team, then there isn't anything wrong with straight loans. Cerny done alright, Sima not too shabby.



07 Feb 2026 10:09:56
100 per right, bud.



07 Feb 2026 10:38:33
Also, straight loans can build great relationships between clubs.



07 Feb 2026 10:41:43
I don't think loans are a problem if used properly.

This season was a farce.

Also, I'd look at each individual case and not have a policy as such.



07 Feb 2026 10:56:14
We do everything to win the league, that imo means loan out and in, loans to buy, straight buys, sell, whatever it takes. We must stay lazer focused on wining the leage every seocnd, every minute, and every hour of the day till the end of time, that's what it takes at Rangers FC.



07 Feb 2026 11:00:25
So, what do we do with the players in our squad we want to loan out with no option or obligation, as we hope they develop and return better players?

It would feel illogical to expect the loan system to only work one way.



07 Feb 2026 11:02:07
So, if Rangers cease loans without an option, does that mean Aph you also want any loans from Rangers to have an option, not simply a straight loan to hopefully develop our younger players?



07 Feb 2026 11:05:01
I certainly agree with you, Aph, especially this season where we have a huge number of straight loans. The only thing I would say is, if it's 1 or maybe 2 straight loans a season for just a really quality player we couldn't get otherwise (Mikey probably falls under this bracket), I am for it.

In general though, I'd prefer to be able to make them our player outright.



07 Feb 2026 11:20:31
Not illogical at all, EHL. Every deal is under the control of the buying/loaning club.

I understand that we want our young players out on loan to develop, and we are doing so primarily through cooperation agreements.

I have merely annotated my preference for Rangers to adopt a more targeted use of the loan market.



Therefore, more deals like Skov Olsen over deals like Moore and Djiga.

Our use of loans has no bearing on other teams' use of loans.

Any team wishing to loan our players would be within their rights to walk away if we were not open to the deal they wanted.



07 Feb 2026 11:38:36
Is it not a case sometimes players are loaned out as the wages they are on, and the fee we would like makes selling some difficult, i.e. Matondo?
Then you have players like Curtis and Cameron that need to be playing football, so it makes sense to loan out for a season and hope they come back ready to fight for a first team start.



07 Feb 2026 11:50:34
If a player improves our team, therefore improving our chances of success, i don't have a problem with loans.



07 Feb 2026 11:52:15
Loan transfers are as common as perm transfers, if not more common, outside the top 3-5 leagues in the world.

Loans, in all forms, are a must in football and should be used when it benefits the team.

Just because the club has some money doesn't mean we should waste it.



07 Feb 2026 12:05:42
Yes, we need to restrict loans for players like Djiga. Its costing the club a lot of money, and he's absolutely rotten. Don't have issues at all with Moore. Fantastic loan player, same as Sima, Cerny and Tilman.



07 Feb 2026 12:09:09
Why would we want to stop ourselves from being able to loan players that otherwise we could never afford? I absolutely agree with not using it for squad players, but for quality players that improve our starters, then why not? Even the rich elite clubs now use loans because of financial rules, so we would only be disadvantaging ourselves if we didn't use them.


I'd love us to be able to develop our own players instead, but until the SFA introduces something for over 18s/reserves, unfortunately the development of players is always going to be held back.



07 Feb 2026 12:42:28
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Aphelion is expressing what he would like. Others have a different opinion. That is life in general. I personally disagree with Aphelion on this, but I can also respect his view and why he has it.

We currently have 5 senior loans in. Without them, we would have had to sign another 5 replacement players. Given the size of the rebuild we required, that was unlikely.

Loans were the sensible option. Regards Moore, I'm glad we got to see him this season, and yes, I would take him for another year. Would I prefer to have an option on the loan deal? Absolutely, but it is unlikely we would pay the money required to get him.

The club has used loans both in and out well for a long time and will continue to do so. Hopefully we will reduce the number of loans in as our squad is built.



07 Feb 2026 12:43:20
Paul, he isn't absolutely rotten, tho. That's bs.



07 Feb 2026 12:48:15
For me, I'm not against loans, but they have to enhance our squad and be better than what we have or are able to bring in.

For example, Cerny and Tillman were miles better than what we had, so it makes sense to bring them in even without a buy option (although that's even better). This type of profile has the potential to turn an average side into a top side, earning us more prize money in Europe etc, so in theory it can pay for itself.



Where I do have an issue is when we bring in mediocre squad players on loan that cost a fortune, that we're able to bring in better for less if due diligence is done. Re Aarons, Djiga, Cornelius, etc.



07 Feb 2026 13:00:16
For me, it's about balance, and personally I like the idea of having someone in the team that we could not normally afford. If he adds value to the team and helps win us trophies, then I'm all for that. The only loan to buy I insist on are players that we want and can afford.



07 Feb 2026 13:18:44
We would be handicapping ourselves against the team that we are competing with if we didn't have loans without options. We should maybe be a bit more selective on who we bring in, but if it gives us the chance to bring in somebody for a season that we could never afford to buy, then we should do it.

It's good for the team, and its exciting for the fans. Its a bit like opting not to bring in players of a certain nationality or religion, apart from the obvious moral issues, it gives your opposition a free run at a player pool that you have opted out of.



07 Feb 2026 13:26:02
Sorry, Aph, but to view loan deals so one-dimensionally seems like the perfect definition of illogical to me.


If you accept that sending our players out on loan without an option to buy can benefit both clubs and the player, then the reverse must also be true?

Surely logic would state there are situations where bringing in a player on a simple loan, with no option or obligation, is a smart move that serves everyone's interests?



07 Feb 2026 13:45:22
Yes, he is. He's so bad. One of the worst we've had in a while. You only have to type his name in the search bar to see what the forum think.



07 Feb 2026 13:54:50
Not often it happens, Storm, but i'm in full agreement with you on Djiga. He started off really poorly, but in recent games he has played well. I even posted that, as well as the players singled out for praise against Kilmarnock, I thought Djiga deserved a mention as he played really well.

So no, he is not rotten. He started poorly but is now playing well.



07 Feb 2026 14:21:00
EHL, of course there are situations where this is true and where it truly benefits the club. I have no exception to that.

I may have miswritten what I meant in the original post, but what I would like are those sort of deals to be in the minority.



The exception to the rule.

This season those deals have not been to the benefit of both, with the exception of Moore, who has flattered to deceive on a number of occasions.



07 Feb 2026 14:24:13
JFM, he started off well, in my opinion, then he went to pot, but he's back at it again, mate.



07 Feb 2026 14:25:19
Can remember after a few games commenting on him and Souttar looking like a good partnership.



07 Feb 2026 15:02:07
I agree with Storm regarding Djiga. ? He's been poor in a few games, especially earlier when he came, but he's been a lot better of late and certainly isn't rotten, Paul. ?



07 Feb 2026 15:36:33
He isn't, tho. He has played in games we have had clean sheets, so for him to be that bad, it wouldn't happen. Also, a lot of fans don't know much about football on here and social media. He isn't great, he is young and learning, but nowhere near as bad as you say and others.



07 Feb 2026 15:37:53
JFM ??, don't make a habit of it. Paul's posts just prove that once minds are made up, it's hard to change. Maybe he doesn't watch games, or he watches them with his eyes closed.



07 Feb 2026 17:23:49
My Star,

In today's over inflated EPL, did you see Spurs alleged valuation of Moore?



07 Feb 2026 17:51:20
Miller, he's only 18, mate. I enjoy watching him. He'll have some career, I'm thinking.



07 Feb 2026 20:30:36
Under no circumstances should we ever loan as many as we did last summer. However, when we have a settled team, there is nothing wrong with bringing in a loan like Moore, Tillman, etc, who we otherwise couldn't afford, but bring them in. The goal is to win titles and trophies, and if they help us do it, then we shouldn't turn our nose up.



 
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