16 Jun 2025 10:34:07
Folk commenting on how Butland can't play out from the back…. There is a bigger issue here, he can't get down to low shots.
We need to replace him ASAP, everyone in the league is now onto him. He's been rumbled!
16 Jun 2025 10:58:33
Very poor down to his left.
16 Jun 2025 10:59:20
? agree, on his wage we need much much better
If we can get £3-5mil, that would make it worth while, he's on a crazy high wage.
16 Jun 2025 11:00:54
Utter nonsense.
He got down pretty damn quick for two wonder saves against Fenerbahce!
You're remembering how you want to remember it.
His distribution is poor. We ain't getting a good keeper who is a shot stopper and distributor without going big on fee or incredibly young!
Butland for me, stays and reminds everyone why we loved him not so long ago.
16 Jun 2025 11:03:36
Zikos, tend to agree.
Opposing managers will have done their homework on him.
16 Jun 2025 11:06:36
100% correct.
16 Jun 2025 11:21:54
GDog yes his distribution is poor and he will have the ball far more often now, my opinion if Butland is our keeper next season he's giving away easy goals every other game, can't see us not signings a keeper that plays our manager way.
16 Jun 2025 11:23:11
Gdog last season was the worst i can ever remember from a Rangers keeper. Cost us a lot of points last season.
16 Jun 2025 11:23:22
If people want rid of butland i'm not bothered, i like him but he was poor last season in some games and mistakes were coming too often. I'm sure we could get another goalkeeper if it was absolutely necessary, i don't think russel martin will view it that way i think he'll probably think he's got a good goalkeeper already.
this he can't dive to his left thing is something someone has said once and everyone has jumped on the back of it, it's simply not true. The league are on to him? what does that even mean, he's a goalkeeper who was making mistakes and low on confidence, we've all seen him be a good gk so hopefully he bring that back this season. everyone has their own opinions, there's about 4/ 5 other positions i'd rather see improved before i'm even thinking about the goalkeeper.
16 Jun 2025 11:35:13
I don't think I would be gutted if he left because some of his weaknesses and the wage he is on but I definitely think we have bigger problems in the squad that needs to be sorted first.
Very hard to go replacing 11 players in one window.
16 Jun 2025 11:47:05
Tav, I like Butland but he's a nightmare with the ball at his feet mate.
16 Jun 2025 12:05:42
As an outsider, even in his first season when he was mentioned in an England context, I didn't think he was up to much. From memory in that first season he lost 2 or 3 goals to us that I thought were saveable, ie slow to get down.
16 Jun 2025 12:10:26
Butland a one good European or old firm perfoaway from vein super jack again.
While I'd happily sell him and replace with a younger keeper if he's better, jacks a fantastic keeps who we've been lucky to have.
16 Jun 2025 12:38:06
I love our fans - we have a keeper who 'gets paid a fortune', 'useless with his feet' and 'can't save low shots'.
If this is the case, how can we 'get rid of him' and how on earth do we land on £3-5m?
16 Jun 2025 12:39:30
Can't be easy playing behind the shambles of a defence we had.
16 Jun 2025 12:54:30
CIP every GK makes mistakes though, let's chat about Schmiechels own goal in cup final and there are a few more for club and country last year. the fact you won trophies keeps the chatter at a minimum.
we moan about the press reporting poorly but then do the lazy part as fans. he saves regularly down low e. g Fenerbahce but because someone as a fan or in the press points out the one low to his left he let's in focus is on there and every fan repeated it whether it is true or not. has anyone compared where he let's the majority of shots in.
same as focus on Dessers misses rather than chances he takes to make him league and overall top scorer
for same reason Bajrami is lazy because Ally McCoist said he didn't track back in a European game last season.
was Butland poorer last season than the previous one then yes but stats wise marginally so.
16 Jun 2025 13:28:05
EHL are you happy with Butland in goals under Martin style of football?
16 Jun 2025 13:29:14
EHL because Butland is a good keeper and other clubs would be interested in him.
16 Jun 2025 13:37:18
Star it might help him. I think his issue is concentration and if he is more involved all the time he may have to focus all the time. equally adept with two feet we are asking him to pas 10 yards to a defender which he does okay. it is the longer sprayed passes he was poor at mainly. his pass success rate is over 77% which isn't bad as we don't recycle through him as much as say Celtic do where the successful passes creep up due to the short pass to CBs.
16 Jun 2025 13:40:30
Can't afford a new keeper? How much did our last No.1 cost?
Or all tue others that preceded?
All FREE transfers.
Plenty of quality out there.
16 Jun 2025 13:48:01
My Star, what style of football will Martin be implementing?
He'd already said he will look to develop a style based on the ability of the players he has.
16 Jun 2025 14:04:21
Possession based football EHL with his keeper involved far more, his keeper is basically a sweeper keeper and out on his box regularly in all Martin teams, that keeper isn't Butland, let's wait and see how it goes.
16 Jun 2025 14:05:50
One minute it's Dessers. rubbish. get rid. Butland. rubbish. get rid. Who is it tomorrow so called fans?
With Butland I think it's a confidence thing with him and with toxic fans. less likely to recover. On his wage I'd be happy to see move on. Not in Kloss Goram class. Better for cheaper. Now whose next for the get rid banter.
16 Jun 2025 14:06:30
A style with the players he's got. It'll be a game of longies.
16 Jun 2025 14:09:35
Angus Martin's keeper isn't only passing the ball 10yrds though, colonel I'm not saying Butland is rubbish but saying poor with the ball at his feet.
16 Jun 2025 14:17:21
EHL maybe adapted to players ability but he is not changing his system for one player.
16 Jun 2025 14:20:20
Star the question though was what style will Martin play at Rangers not what he played at other teams or what style you think he will play. The answer to EHL's question is no-one knows atm. If he plays a style suited to our squad's strengths as EHL seems to suggest then he wouldn't be playing a style which requires a GK to play with ball at his feet if Martin thinks that the GK can't play that way.
16 Jun 2025 14:28:32
I don't think it's about not being able to afford another keeper.
There is no chance we are signing another keeper when Butland is still on the books, so firstly you need someone to be interest in him, then we can look at replacing him.
16 Jun 2025 14:37:27
So Martin is changing from the system he has used at all previous clubs at Rangers Angus, you think? that is the way the man sees the game.
16 Jun 2025 14:51:23
Correct Angus.
RM has been pretty clear that he wants the team to be aggressive in and out of possession and dominate the ball.
He's been pretty clear he's not committed to a system or style to achieve this and he's also stated that if we don't have the players to play how he wants, he'll set up with a view to winning games until he can implement his methods - which could take some time.
16 Jun 2025 14:56:26
Ehl it's hilarious some of the comments can't dive to his left but it would be great to get 3-5 million for him ?
If other clubs that we play against have done there homework with him surely scouts of other clubs will do the same and say he can't dive to his left (which is a myth by clueless fans) they ain't gona tell the buying club to buy him now is he?
16 Jun 2025 15:26:23
Ehl so do u think rm will forgo his style preference of playing out from the back j7st to accommodate butland?
16 Jun 2025 15:27:57
I'll call it now!
Martin WILL NOT SELL BUTLAND THIS WONDOW.
Changing our keeper is not a priority.
16 Jun 2025 15:37:02
Clearly he does ows, let's wait and see because I just can't see him changing the way he wants the game played.
16 Jun 2025 15:53:25
OWS, I think he'll do what he said.
He'll find the balance to ensure we're winning games whilst he works to implement his system.
Writing off Butland, or any other player, before the squad has reported back for preseason doesn't make any sense.
16 Jun 2025 16:08:27
I just can't see Martin changing the way he plays the game and that is from the back with the keeper heavily involved, just need to wait and see.
16 Jun 2025 16:22:51
Writing off the likes of Davies, Dowell, cifu and matondo makes plenty sense to me, mate.
16 Jun 2025 16:33:17
Just like to point out that the same was said of joe hart at Man City and he managed to prove doubters wrong and regain his place.
16 Jun 2025 17:21:09
EHL it's the same all the time on here, looking for 4 or 5m for players not good enough apparently. I remember it used to be "Morelos is rotten, his attitude stinks and his petulance and red cards cost us dearly. I'd take £10m for him" ?.
16 Jun 2025 17:27:58
Stevie, I just don't like Butland with the ball at his feet mate, but I'm not saying he's not a good keeper because he is, but i panic if he's got the ball at his feet i can't be the only one, i would even prefer Kelly but if Butland is played i only hope he proves me wrong.
16 Jun 2025 18:18:10
Martin did say that he would play a different style depending on our opponents. So I can't see him playing his usual way. If he does, he will be quickly found out in our league just like PC MB MW were quickly found out.