30 Mar 2025 08:48:13
My intuition has been that Dessers is overly critiques on many platforms. But what evidence can I marshall in support of my intuition?
I would argue that, irrespective of subjective metrics like perceived technique, the objective metric of a striker is: of every opportunity to score a goal, how many do they score? If we use this metric, perhaps we can get closer to some kind of truth about Dessers that does not involve any opinion.
So, what does the data say?
Well, Dessers, in the Premier League, has had 59 shots on goal. He has scored 12 goals. He scored 20% of his chances. How does this compare to strikers that people might view as significantly superior? I have ranked some examples, using data for this current season.
1. Haaland: 21% conversion rate
2. Maeda: 31% conversion rate
3. Kane 24% conversion rate
4. Musiala 17% conversion rate
5. Lukaku 22% conversion rate
6. Mbappe 18% conversion rate
7. Lewandowski 24% conversion rate
8. Ollie Watkins: 18% conversion rate
9. Salah 25% conversion rate
the average conversion rate of the 9 above listed attacking players is 22%. Whilst Desser, is therefore, slightly below average, he is not significantly worse.
On the grounds that Dessers conversion rate is not much worse than that of the top attackers from the top European leagues, I would have to conclude that he is judged too harshly and in fact, performs accordingly with the average shot to goal rate of other players in his position.
30 Mar 2025 09:15:09
Well pointed out bud, but wait for it because it won't make a difference to some, I agree he is overly criticised unreservedly so?.
30 Mar 2025 09:17:41
Judge him alongside Maeda in the same League.
The rest are irrelevant.
30 Mar 2025 09:18:37
Dessers had 12 attempts last night. He converted 1. Terrible conversion rate. The 20% is a flawed stat in comparison to those you mentioned because they don't get as many chances as Dessers with the exception of Maeda, who has 11% better shows how poor Dessers conversion rate is. All of those above would have a better conversion rate if the played in our league. You can't compare Dessers 20% to that of those in the top european leagues. It just doesn't add up.
30 Mar 2025 09:29:05
Good post, some fans think top class strikers score every chance for some odd reason ?.
30 Mar 2025 09:31:27
New name I see?.
30 Mar 2025 09:36:09
Dessers opinion changes game to game for most which i find highly amusing, Dessers had a good game yesterday, yes he should have had more but I'm seeing nobody is talking anything from the Dundee keeper making a good few saves.
30 Mar 2025 09:37:33
Unfortunately the data presented raises more questions than it answers.
It's a decent starting point though.
Personally, I'm not a fan of Dessers.
30 Mar 2025 09:42:58
That was a really tidy finish from him in getting us the three points.
30 Mar 2025 10:03:31
Spot the ball. So: your claim is my argument doesn't add up and yet you are claiming with no evidence whatsoever that all of the other strikers I listed from other leagues would score more goals in our league? On what basis are you forming this argument? You can't possibly state with any authority that Haaland would score more goals that Dessers in a league he never played in against low block tactics.
It's ok to push back on my claim, but after I at least made an attempt to justify my claim, I would expect you to do the same. Your justification is a complete guess though and therefore I am dismissing it entirely as a claim.
30 Mar 2025 10:07:48
The Nigerian Goal Scoring Prince scored another crucial goal - this time the winner.
Do we need better? Yes.
But he's 20+ for the season again.
Not bad for 3rd choice.
30 Mar 2025 10:11:14
Bang of Asathor
Just about to reply same thing.
How can you judge him against Haaland
Imagine Haaland uo here in scotland .
????
On top of that look at Maeda conversation rate?
Correct me if I'm wrong but how much was Maeda?
Hmm let me think about that oh 1.5 million
End of day he's all we have and trys and plays
We need better all over the pitch if we want to push for a title
Reckon we will probably lose a few of the decent players this summer and dessers also might be away
we kept talking about rebuilds this is definitely another summer of rebuilds.
30 Mar 2025 10:13:45
He is atrocious.
Him and Danilo need moved on as a priority.
The striker on the other side of the city has a hattrick by half time with dessers chances and cost less than half the price.
30 Mar 2025 10:17:10
I thought Dessers played well and got most of his shots on target, unlucky not to score more.
30 Mar 2025 10:17:52
My star I would go as far as saying the opinion changes miss by miss and goal by goal, I had him sold at 30 mins yesterday 60 mins later I was giving him the George Cross and a Knight hood.
30 Mar 2025 10:22:48
Correct fork and Mystar.
Spot the ball have you checked how many chances all those strikers get or you just guessing? The.
30 Mar 2025 10:31:12
Fork new name same sh*t though. stats are flawed because they don't agree with your opinion. and of course ether rest are relevant as they are a player of quality in a league with players of the same quality. the stats give a common thread to do those comparisons: so spot the ball.
Haaland in EPL 58 shots
Maeda 45 shots
Kane 84 shots
Lukaku 42 shots
Mbappe 115 shots
Lewandovski 72 shots
Watkins 34 shots
Salah 55 shots
so they all do get a similar amount of chances.
30 Mar 2025 10:41:27
Think coldo has two users names running and think one just appeared.
30 Mar 2025 10:57:06
Maeda was only 13% last season.
18% the season before.
21% the season before that.
30 Mar 2025 11:17:34
Go jack n spot the ball I think star?.
30 Mar 2025 11:30:29
Correct Angus, the more things change the more they stay the same?.
30 Mar 2025 11:34:46
Fork yes that his 2 mate, wonder if he'll reply to himself again this time?.
30 Mar 2025 12:16:10
Lol stranger things can happen??.
30 Mar 2025 12:21:10
The two of them are clueless.
Cheers Angus I new they would be similar.
30 Mar 2025 13:18:40
Deboer the player. Warned us that you get a Dessers and CD9. I love the attitude he has.
30 Mar 2025 13:29:00
So if dessers strike rate is up there with the best 5 strikers on the planet, surely we should be asking for 100 million? If not, why not? Rdwqg I can state with authority that Haaland would score more than dessers, i don't need stats to justify it, he's the best striker in the world imo, a goal machine.