13 Jun 2025 12:30:55
Dinamo Zagreb just sold a mf to come for €17m with €5m in add one so €22m
With this being the martlet value why can't we realistically ask €25m for raskin.
People saying we can't get that are living in the past.
U see what Celtic paid for Engels and raskin is a far better player. Even oriley for £29m
Why can't we ask that for our best player.
13 Jun 2025 12:35:01
Baturina is a hell of a player Stevie imo his ceiling is higher than Raskin but do agree I want a similar fee.
13 Jun 2025 12:36:42
Should read como*.
13 Jun 2025 12:46:46
The last six months Raskin has controlled games from box to box, him becoming a Belgium mainstay is what will see him get that fee if EPL clubs come calling, a do think doing a deal with him and being able to keep him for one more season is our best chance to win the league tho and a good World Cup next summer and he will smash Scottish transfer record.
13 Jun 2025 12:54:58
Stevie the only thing is we can't say at the negotiating table look how much Celtic paid for engels and como paid for baturina. We should always be looking for as much as we can get. Right now is think raskin is worth 12/ 18mil. If he was to stay and pick up where he left off and have a good run in Belgium team it will go up.
13 Jun 2025 12:56:18
Celtic get 29 million for oriley because he finished the season with almost 19 goals and 18 assists which is insane. they also won the league and were playing in the champions league.
celtic signed engles for 10 million and whilst i agree raskin is the better player at the moment, unless we start winning trophies, Celtic will probably sell engles for 25 million and we will struggle to get that for our top players and be stuck in whether we should keep our best players to win the league or sell. When we sold bassey for 20 million we went on a run to a european final, don't think we would have received that fee had we not done that. it doesn't matter how much we feel our players are worth it's only what someone will pay and all things considered at the moment i think we'd struggle to 20 million for raskin, even though i would agree i think he is worth that.
13 Jun 2025 13:13:54
Providing he signs a contract, Raskin would be my captain next season.
13 Jun 2025 13:55:56
Pains me to say it but raskin has only had an outstanding 6/ 8 months MOR was exceptionally talented at celtic. I'd say 95 percent of all his games were very good and his assits and goals were outstanding it's difficult to price raskin at his value or campare the both of them.
13 Jun 2025 14:05:51
I agree tav. Engels also just 21 and Raskin 24 so 3 years more development to potentially come. This price thing is like trying to compare apples to oranges. If we want to sell him we will get what the owners think is a fair price. the problem is that fans think they are always worth more than that price.
13 Jun 2025 14:28:01
It was 25 for O'Reilly the rest were add ons Tav and going by 1st year he ain't hitting many of them
Stevie have you even watched this guy play to see if he is worse or better than Raskin? It's mental how the mind of fans work it really. A lot of fans don't live in the real world it's all fifa football manager an unicorns.
13 Jun 2025 14:29:00
Dynamo Zagreb have a pretty strong track record for selling players, over the last 4-5 seasons they've sold multiple players for £10m, including 2 or 3 for £20m plus.
Celtic have a similar reputation.
This has a significant impact on the valuation of players.
13 Jun 2025 14:46:38
Sam of orange I've not seen the boy play so thanks for info.
I think we are all agreeing that raskin is worth it. What the disagreement is, is that we can't demand it. Well the boy isn't in a rush to leave and he's got 2 years to run and a relatively small wage. Unless we get his value he stays and after the window shuts we offer him a major wage rise in line with his valuation, he's not going to knock back the money if we agree to sell him to certain standards of clubs if valuation we agree upon is met thw following summer.
13 Jun 2025 15:18:49
Raskin is an exceptional midfielder and now a full Belgian Internationalist, and with so many clubs reportedly interested in signing him, you would expect any offer of £20m+, this would be very difficult for the club to turn down.
Our player trading model needs to be prudent when it comes to buying and selling, and reinvesting this in new players.
13 Jun 2025 15:48:19
Copland exactly £20m with £5m in add ons.
13 Jun 2025 15:54:51
EHL
What you are actually saying is that both Zagreb and Celtic are good at selling Yeh?
Which on the face of it makes us bad by comparison.
And in making us bad, we are focussing on all the wrong factors.
Selling is a game. Nothing more.
Find a buyer who needs what you have and you will get your price or pretty damn close to it.
Rangers are total and utter crap at finding buyers! Selling players is actually all about finding buyers. Hey if they come to you then great! But you still need to find the best buyer out of that group.
Find the best buyer get the best price.
If Raskin and Co had a title medal around their neck they would be worth more!
There is a world of difference from saying because they aren't 'winners' they are worth less! That's a buyers angle! This way will see you fall short time after time after time.
You never go there as a seller. Why would you?
13 Jun 2025 17:15:34
Gdog I don't think that is how it works though. the buying clubs scouts and recruitment team would identify and come to us. or in other cases the selling club would tell the agent and his players that he was surplus and they should look for a club for player to move to. I am not sure I have ever heard of selling clubs going out directly to find buyers but perhaps that is what recruitment events aim to do: allow selling clubs to offer their players.
once the buyer approaches granted we haven't made a good fist of getting the right value but is that normally as we haven't hidden our lack of funds and our willingness to sell.
13 Jun 2025 17:27:47
Find a buyer for what you have but don't go as a seller? not sure how productive those transfer negotiations would be.
13 Jun 2025 17:44:09
No Tav that's not what I said in the slightest.
13 Jun 2025 17:44:45
Not at all what I'm saying GDog.
13 Jun 2025 18:07:34
Look at dessers as a starting point lads. We made a line and we got just under it.
We got €8m reportedly.
Some would've solid for £2-3m.
13 Jun 2025 18:13:43
We don't know what we got Stevie it's not been agreed yet.