08 May 2026 10:18:00
Reading Bobby Clark a target for a move this summer apparently he's keen on the move.
08 May 2026 11:21:22
He's a decent player, not working out in Austria, but a lot of offensive minded midfielders don't seem to have good times over there.
08 May 2026 11:32:51
Done well for Derby this season.
08 May 2026 15:27:46
Is this another overhyped player with very little background to warrant a place at Rangers.
Don't win with kids, but then again, don't think main goal is to win it, to sell young players on at a profit.
Personally don't see what the fuss about the kid is.
08 May 2026 15:28:34
And mystar, you think everyone is a decent player. Don't think I've ever noticed you downplay any signing.
08 May 2026 15:37:06
Gofor, you always rip me up with your chat, man. Again, done well for Derby this season, you'll know better, guess you've seen him play many times. ?
08 May 2026 15:55:52
Mystar, how many players have done well down there and failed up here? You did this same pattern when I went against your view on Dowell and you bigged him up big time that turned out well eh! And don't get me wrong, I'm guilty of it too, I like you thought Rothwell would do well but another massive midfield flop.
Sorry but just because you do it in Championship doesn't mean you will here.
1 goal in 17 abroad fail.
3 goals and 3 assists in 42 games is hardly brilliant and his average rating is only 6.5.
Your man Dowell had 5 goals and 4 assists in 19 games for Birmingham and an average rating of 7.3.
Think people overhype the boy because he seems to battle and try to drive, but half time his shots seem to balloon. Just looks like a young lad in prime of fitness to me, can't see anything else that stands out, maybe decent long pass but weve seen how bad Cifuentes did here and that was one of his main assets but teams here don't push out and leave that space the same.
08 May 2026 15:58:30
Funny you never back much up Mystar, or admit you were wrong much. Think only time I remember is when you flipped on Martin as manager.
08 May 2026 16:06:56
Gofor, so you do it in the Championship, that means you can't do it in our league, wake up mate. Every individual is different, you can't judge players on other players' failure, he's only 21 years old.
You went against my opinion on Dowell, deary dear man.
Dowell only impressed me before Rangers and never got many chances in a Rangers jersey, that doesn't mean he can't play. Thought Rothwell would be a top signing, but he wasn't in Rangers colours; he was outstanding for Blackburn, Southampton, and Leeds.
08 May 2026 16:07:02
Forever, that's been my fear for a while. Buying players to sell on rather than winning. ?
08 May 2026 16:20:23
If he can't cut it at Salzburg, a league probably similar in terms of quality to ours, and isn't doing great at Derby. With the amount of flops we have signed from there recently, I am sceptical of signing anyone from there and hope it's just lazy journalism.
08 May 2026 16:27:47
Championship players can succeed up here, you can't ignore all the English league players that have had plenty of success in our league.
Not every signing is going to work out, and yes, you're going to have more misses from a league you shop in the most.
Now, can we stop this boring argument. Feel free to say it's not value for money, then I can agree with that at times.
08 May 2026 16:31:47
Bigbluejim, he must be doing something right at Derby or he isn't playing 40+ games, we'd struggle against them right now.
08 May 2026 16:42:32
I wouldn't want Bobby Clark.
Massive failure in his career from what his potential was.
08 May 2026 16:42:38
Mystar, again you try to say people say something they didn't say to make your point. I did not say if you do well in the Championship you won't do well up here; I said it's no guarantee, and also players of a better standing than him have failed and he has kinda failed already.
Maybe try read the post as they are instead of making up your own narrative. Loom, he could be decent, but we just keep going to that well, and 9 times out of ten it seems to fail.
08 May 2026 16:46:50
Look, my fear with Championship is players that really do have that extra bit of quality are getting nowhere near Rangers, and the players we pick up are guys the big club have already looked at and said pass.
Honestly, Mystar, do you really think if he was that good and under contract that we could get them from that league or would we be massively outbid by other Championship teams or Prem teams?
08 May 2026 16:48:47
Gofor, I know you never said that, but you would have been as well saying it, because you're judging other players that came from the Championship.
08 May 2026 16:53:10
Stevie, he's only 21 years old, I'm really not concerned if we are even interested in him, but truly lost how he can be a massive failure at that age, mate.
08 May 2026 17:19:35
We 100% should be staying away from Championship players. When was the last that was a success? We have a poor record from there.
08 May 2026 17:58:53
It doesn't make any difference what league they get signed from, many players have cut it in a Rangers jersey from any league?
08 May 2026 18:13:25
Storm, it's just not true though, last 4 years we've signed 5 players from Championship Dowell, Cantwell, Sterling, Balogun and Lawrence. Would say Cantwell was a good enough player for us, I mean his stats back it up. Sterling and Balogun both solid signings when fit, and Lawrence unfortunate injury.
Dowell flop.
Same period we've signed 3 Serie A players, 1 was a success but everyone slated him.
4 Eredivisie players, all 3 flops, 1 injury.
4 Bundesliga, 2 success 2 flops.
2 Ligue 1, both flops.
The issue is the recruitment not the league.
08 May 2026 18:25:43
If it's to make a profit, Windy, flooding our team with loans and vastly overpaying for players isn't the best way to do it.
08 May 2026 18:27:40
Whilst the Championship is a fantastic league full of huge clubs, loads of cash & yes, some great players, my issue with signings from there is that they are vastly overpaid & haven't produced it up here. Our last several have fallen wayyyy short of the standard expected. We have only had a couple of successes, & it has cost us an absolute fortune.
I'd much rather sign from our own league or abroad where costs are less, wages less, & the risk is greatly reduced, so personally I'd prefer us to avoid Championship altogether unless there was an offer too good to be true or pass up.
08 May 2026 18:45:01
That's a fair stance to have, Beale, mate. I just remember him being the up and coming star at Liverpool and the Gers quoted for him. He certainly hasn't lived up to his early promise, that's for sure, mate.
I'll be fair though and say I didn't even know he was at Derby, so there ye go, mate. I know nothing of his form.
08 May 2026 19:52:48
Still young, mate, played over 40 games for them this season, Stevie.
08 May 2026 20:19:57
I had him mixed up with Bobby Duncan that we were constantly linked with too from Liverpool and Derby until u said he was only 21. No idea what happened to him.
08 May 2026 20:42:09
Calb, the fact you have to say we're good when fit means they weren't good enough for long enough, especially Sterling; he has had more injuries than Roofe.
The only one I would say that was a success was Balogun, and even he had injury problems, so I would argue I am correct in my opinion, mate.
It's all about opinions, and we will not agree on it.
08 May 2026 20:43:26
Calb, you also forgot the biggest one of them all, Rothwell. ?
We have had very little success from Championship.
08 May 2026 21:13:56
Just turned 21 this year, Kasier.
08 May 2026 21:29:05
Storm, Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rothwell was signed from a Premier League club. When I said Max Aarons was a Championship rb at best, everyone was very quick to correct me, telling me he was a Premier League player.
Opinions, but from the sounds of your opinion we should just never sign anyone again from any league because by your logic every league has failed us recently.
08 May 2026 21:37:08
Think Forever said it best. The quality players in the Championship are the ones we can't afford, so yes, again the value for money is poor and we need to get those quality ones from Bosman deals.
But again, we are talking about quality and not the league, and f ankle the quality of signings have been poor from every league.
09 May 2026 09:46:01
I would argue just because they signed as a Prem player does not mean they were really that level. We all know a lot of these players are dumped when clubs reach Prem level, why? Because even they know they won't be good enough, as shown with Rothwell lol and that's one I thought would do ok and so did the club as they followed him for years.
I'm not dead against a player from Derby, like Mystar said, he is just 21 and could turn it around, but wages after a failed move, yes failed move, will still be high.
If it was a free or low value project then fair enough, but I doubt it will be the case.
If we are going for young players that have been released as project I'm ok with that too, as demands won't be high and those type of players are probably ready to graft after being dumped.
09 May 2026 09:47:53
We've gone to that market pretty much since Warburton, and what have we really to show for it in the form of titles compared to their strategy of foreign markets?
09 May 2026 10:02:16
Bleedblue, in 10 windows we have signed 19 players across all leagues in England. In that same period Celtic have signed 21 players from the English leagues.
That's including permanent and loan signings. They use the market just as much as us, again. It's about the quality.
10 May 2026 00:23:06
I think it's funny when people don't include the like of Davies even though he was at Liverpool for one window and never played. For me that's still a Championship player. Matondo was trained as a Championship player, failed stint in Germany, in my eyes still a Championship player. Rothwell, Championship player. Aasgaard, Meghoma, Dowell, Ofoborah, Middleton, Bacuna, McLaughlin, Jack Simpson, Edmundson, Barker, too many to remember over years.
And yes, we had some success in likes of Aribo, Tav, Bassey, Balogun.
But if we are doing exactly what teams like Hearts and Motherwell are doing by loaning English clubs players that are not good enough yet, then how do we not see we are on same level as Hearts and Motherwell. And if teams have already passed on these players, that's a smaller pool of clubs that will be interested in buying him if he does well for us, as they won't want to look foolish having already passed.