02 Nov 2026 15:12:39
When I hear our players saying they are struggling nowadays with fan criticism regarding their performances, it really grates on me. I don't buy this crap and I question if these players truly have the minerals to play for the club.
Playing for Rangers is a great privilege that not many understand and very few get the chance to experience. I was fortunate enough to play during a time we dominated everything. The pressure and level of expectation was through the roof and our mentality was always the same.
Win at all costs. The pressure was always there 365 days a year and I bloody thrived on it. Nobody remembers who comes 2nd in Glasgow. That's how it is and will always be.
If I ever went to the gaffer and came away with any of this nonsense back in the day, I would have been made available to Berwick Rangers. Ibrox is the greatest place on earth. It's where hopes and dreams are fulfilled β€οΈπ¬π§.
Sadly a reflection on life today, folk can't take any kind of criticism. We've become a nation of wet wipes.
Love the post, Fourlads.
You were a very lucky man. It's clear to see you were immensely proud to have pulled on the jersey.
Doff of the hat to you, sir. π
Psst. Who are you again? Kiddin'! π.
Kaiser, it's not that 'we've become a nation of wet wipes' as you put it, seeing as most of our players aren't from this 'nation', so it has nothing to do with that.
It's the fact that kids nowadays (and for the past 20 years really) no longer grow up with the utter desperation to become the best player they can be, or the desperation to play for our club, like a lot of the players in teams of our past did. Most young footballers now grow up wanting to 'earn millions' and gain the lifestyle that comes with being a professional footballer. Some unfortunately often 'can't be doing' with the hard work, sacrifice and intense scrutiny that comes with the job.
Having said all of that , the other side of the coin is that in today's world of social media, instant access to everything and magnified scrutiny by media and fans alike, players themselves are under way more pressure than ever before and unlike players of the past who only ever had to deal with fans at the actual game or potentially the odd unfavourable newspaper report, the scrutiny, focus and in general abuse can come from everywhere , all the time and is exceedingly difficult to shut out of even their everyday life.
So I can see it from both sides. The game and everything around it has changed dramatically from even what it was like 20 or 30 years ago.
Gers78 I understand the first part of your post and agree with most of that. There is not the same hunger and desire to represent and play for our clubs nowadays.
The last part I don't agree with though. Somebody saying some hurty words on social media over constant harassment outside our houses. Our team was hounded by the media. They hated us and the fact we were winning you couldn't fart the wrong way but it was plastered over the news.
False stories horrible reporters ruined a few marriages. A good friend of mine (England international) came up here and was constantly hounded by the media. Phones tapped and his life spread everywhere. Bullets and death threats sent also.
More just a general comment on society Gers78 than our team in particular. take your point re scrutiny but any type of criticism and they wilt. Must be all the more frustrating for guys like Fourlads who faced it but had the determination to put in the hard work and sacrifice it takes.
More than frustrating Kaiser. We all looked after one another on and off the pitch. Still do 30 years later.
Out of curiosity Fourlads, how often were you in Trash with the guys?
I agree that the pressure of playing for Rangers has always been enormous, but I think there's a difference between a team accustomed to winning everything and one that hasn't won anything for 15 years. Those successful sides were also largely made up of experienced international players who knew what it took to win.
Success breeds confidence and a winning mentality, and I suspect it's easier to deal with occasional fan displeasure when winning is the norm than the almost constant criticism that comes with years of underachievement.
The pressure of playing for Rangers hasn't necessarily changed, but the way it's voiced has. Social media means criticism is constant, immediate and amplified in a way it simply wasn't before.
That isn't to say players shouldn't be able to handle criticism, but I think it's worth recognising that the environment they operate in is very different.
Sorry Fork I don't understand that question pal?
I'm no expert on this, but surely before any player signs we explain how much pressure there is to play for a club like ours, their coming to a football fanatical city to play in front of 50, 000 every other week. I'm sure that when contact is made with these guys they go away and do some research etc, realise not only is it a city divided by football, but also religion for the most part.
Anyone typing in biggest derbys in world, Rangers and Celtic are right up there on any site, so these guys must know the pressures that come with it, if you can't handle that your definitely at the wrong club, go somewhere where the pressure isn't so intense.
Angus I agree with some of what you say. Social media is a massive downside nowadays but the media do have to play more fair these days because of it. They don't hound or harass players the same and there are better boundaries in place. I would also say the pressure back in the 90s to win week in week out whilst chasing 9IAR was far more than what it is now.
We were under severe pressure and intense scrutiny to deliver on that pitch week in week out and we did. Nowadays that Rangers team has become accustomed to not winning. Fan demand is not the same as it was.
Some relish it others can't handle it BB4. The shirt is simply just too heavy for some and that will always be the case.
Four lads, I'm not saying there wasn't pressure in the 90s, but having a successful, winning team, experienced internationals, a long-term management team and a clear club strategy were all integral to maintaining that winning culture. Gradually adding a few players to the squad each season, rather than constantly changing managers, direction and personnel, was beneficial as well.
I also think not achieving 10iar after Walter announced his departure early shows just how much even a small period of disruption can affect a winning mentality.
My point is that the young team we have now need to develop that winning mentality, and as quickly as possible. Learning how to win important games and deliver trophies is a skill in itself. It's something many players only really learn when they come into a successful team and experience those standards first-hand. The problem is that we haven't been successful enough in recent years to develop that mentality within the squad, so it's something we need to build again.
I think alao the level is Scotland has dropped so that players coming here should be looking to move on to a higher level. If they can't handle playing here what chance do u give them in a top league?
Big difference between now and the 90's though.
Not only has the world changed with social media and the internet.
The make up of our squad is different with a reliance of young players with potential coming to our club rather than the season pros of the 90's.
when we had England internationals etc:
I'm sure the players won't mind criticism if it's constructive but some of it can be counter intuitive to a young player and squad.
The Nightclub in Glasgow bud a lot of the lads used to frequent it, it was the one that burned down in 2004, also The Shack.
I was more a steps bar man ππ¬π§.
Angus we haven't won things because the players haven't been good enough. Certain Players that thought they were bigger than the club etc. They have moved on and I hope we have turned a corner under Del but I still have some major reservations.
Our first big test comes on the 13th December. Win that we kick on and potentially win everything. Lose and it could be back to the same downward spiral we all know. ππ»π¬π§.
Four lads They might not have been good enough, but the reality is that we haven't been able to buy ready-made, proven players for a long time. Instead, we have to recruit players with potential and give them time to develop, both individually and as a team.
I think part of the problem is that a lot of fans are used to the teams we had in the 90s, where we had a first team full of established, experienced players who were ready to deliver.
I'm not convinced that, under Del, we actually have many players of that calibre yet. So while there are certainly expectations and standards that need to be met, I think we also need a degree of patience to allow these players to grow and develop into the team we want them to be. otherwise we start with a new squad of inexperienced players with potential again.
Lol probably for the best Fourladsππ.
Angus we have spent more now than we ever did and we have fully fledged internationals. One reached the WC quarter final. The problem is nowadays you don't have players at the club that lead by example or know what it means to play for the jersey.
Explain the standards and expectations required to the younger generation or players from abroad. Those standards were driven back then. They aren't now.
Defo Fork π€£.
Capucho, I'll say no more.π€£.
Fourlads remember some good nights in Steps bar after finishing training in Kobe Osaka upstairs.
Forelands
In the 90's we were signing Butcher, Woods, Robert's, Stevens, Wilkins, Gazza, Hateley,
Mikhailichenico and not when they were past their best years to name but a few.
How much would we have to pay for modern equivalent players?
I challenge someone to answer that question?
Absolutely no comparison to them days when I had a brick phone and went for a night out without it, not contactable and now when I can't get away from the phone as it runs my bloody life.
Four lads. I think CO2 highlights the difference in the quality of players we could attract then compared to now. We might occasionally sign an international, but there's a big difference between looking good playing alongside a team of established internationals at a World Cup and performing in a team largely made up of players who are still developing.
I'm not trying to turn this into a competition nor belittle the achievements of the teams of the 90s. I'm simply asking for a bit of understanding that we're not the same team or club we were back then. My hope is that, with time and patience, we can get back to a level where we're consistently competitive and challenging for every trophy we enter.
Fourlads - had a few good sessions in steps bar bud. Tended then to go back to the DB with a few of the lads.
We're you out the day our man came in with a dress on? If I remember, I were out walking that day. Although I think he done that a couple of times.π€£
Or when he swapped an auld women his versace shirt for her manky old t shirt.
If your time didn't coincide with his then none of that will make sense π€£π€£.
Cool lads youse are entitled to your opinions. IMO we are exactly the same club it's just that standards have slipped that far. Players nowadays are overpaid and behave like spoilt brats. There desire to win and play for Rangers isn't the same.
Athole that was Gazza and the dress was stinking ππ€£.
1In my opinion the issue facing players currently is that they are not coached, or empowered, to take responsibility on the pitch.
They are drilled from a very young age to play a very specific way and this continues in to their professional careers so that when they step on to the pitch they are 'scenario' coached.
So if you are Fernandez and you have been coached to slow the game down and invite opposition players on to you. You excel. at that particular aspect of the game. It's the reason you were scouted, signed and also why you've received a national team call up. You know it's how the teams you dream of playing for want their centre backs to play.
Then it becomes difficult to here the crowds moan every time you do it and its a difficult process to undo the muscle memory- especially when deep down you don't want to.
Can't believe I forgot Brian Laudrup.
Shows how many top top players we were signing back then.
If we were to sign a Brian Laudrup today, how much would we have to pay?
I agree that we're the same club but in a different era, different times and football in Scotland operates in a different financial climate.
Back then we were signing some of the best players in Europe, the team at the moment is young in age and still at a development stage.
Probably more a sign of the times than standards simply dropping.
Agree with that EHL. I played with a few back in the day though that weren't that technically gifted shall we say however the heart and desire along with fight they brought to our team every time we went on to the pitch was second to none. The gaffer knew that
Is Fernandez actually coached at the headless chicken classes? ππ€£π.
I think that's a great point you make, EHL about coaching and empowering responsibility. I hear fans of all clubs complaining about a lack of leaders on the park. Think that ties in well with not being able to accept criticism.
Fourlads,
Obviously I don't know who you are but are you sure it's not you that wasn't very technically gifted!
That last comment on Fernandez sounds directly from the Mikel Stewart class of criticism,
On Fernandez, yes he can frustrate me, but I thought he had a decent game Saturday in the Semi Final.
Fourlads, I was intrigued to see how the results from our 9IAR seasons would compare with those of our more recent teams, given the discussion we've been having. I have to admit I was quite surprised by what I found.
Across the nine title-winning seasons between 1988/89 and 1996/97, our league record was:
P 348 | W 230 | D 69 | L 49
Across the nine most recent completed seasons, from 2017/18 to 2025/26, it was:
P 333 | W 222 | D 64 | L 47
That's a win percentage of 66.1% during nine in a row compared with 66.7% over the last nine seasons.
Of course, the recent record has delivered just one title, six second places and two third places, which puts those results into a slightly different perspective.
I have to say I expected the win percentage from the 9IAR teams to be considerably higher, given my memories of the quality of those sides and their success.
I'm not entirely sure what this proves, if anything, but it certainly challenges my own perception that the teams of the 90s were winning considerably more consistently than our more recent teams.
Perhaps the real difference wasn't necessarily how often we won games, but our ability to win the important ones, maintain consistency when it mattered and ultimately turn those results into trophies.
Maybe that's the distinction between winning matches and having a genuine winning mentality. The statistics suggest the gap between the teams in terms of results isn't as great as I remembered, but the difference in trophies won is enormous. Perhaps it's that ability to get over the line, particularly in the big moments, that we need to rediscover.
It certainly gives me something to think about and perhaps makes the argument for allowing the current team time to develop that mentality even more relevant.
Gone are the days we can sign champions league winning goal keepers ππ.
Culture changes along with the time. Look at MoN across the city struggling to implement his older style of management.
In the 90s there were plenty of observers complaining about the lack of talent coming through in Scottish football. They blamed and bemoaned the lack of kids playing in the streets and back greens like Baxter and J. Johnstone would have.
The simple fact of the matter is that today's players are a completely different breed from the era before and so on, so on. Players in the 80s and 90s got some stick too and some of them couldn't handle it. This isn't a new phenomenon, but it has changed.
However, the cream always rises to the top. The most skilled, mentally tough and competitive players will reach the desired heights of their career.
Fourlads is speaking from his personal experiences and it's interesting to hear but that 90s team were winners due to all those qualities and the same rules still exist today.
People romanticise the 'old days' and they forget the hard times.
That team in the 90s was not without it's problems in amongst the multiple trophies.
2 of our greatest ever players in Goram and Laudrup had issues. Goram had to take some time out due to his personal issues and Laudrup was a shadow of himself in his last season due to his failed moves to Barcelona.
We didn't have enough in the tank to get 10 in a row and a team made up of millions of pounds failed two years in a row to get into the CL group stages v Levski Sofia and AEK.
We struggled to secure the first ever back to back trebles v Dundee United in 94.
Mentality issues weren't invented 15 years ago or whatever. That team in the 90s came within a whisker of a European Cup Final but humans, athletes and teams are complex things.
Great management earns it's money dealing with those complexities. Here's hoping Del can nurture, engrain and impose that winning culture.
I sat in the main stand at Motherwell and watched us nearly blow the league second last match of the season 1991.
The good mentality that day was non existent.
You could say we re discovered it last match against Aberdeen at home with a fantastic performance to win the title.
The Rangers fans rallied together that particular day though, I witnessed it as I was there.
Good things could happen this season but I think it's imperative that we rally together and push the team on.
Not blindly, a bad performance can be criticised, but after a weekend when we've got ourselves into a cup final and closing in on Celtic, why not be a bit more optimistic that our young team has the mentality to go all the way this season.
It's a poor comparison, a different era the 90's.
Let's make sure 2026-27 is a good season for all of us and the start of a new successful era.
Agree completely CO2. It's a long season, a young team and they need our support.
It's true there aren't many players like Gough, Butcher, McCall or Ferguson's going about but those boys need the fans behind them.
No booing at half time please.
Interesting stats Angus.
I guess the big difference is that if you compared the same stats on Celtic, Celtic must have improved vastly.
The only stat that matters
1988-97 - 17 domestic trophies (9 league titles, 5 league cups and 3 Scottish cups)
2017-present - 3 domestic trophies (1 league title, 1 league cup and 1 Scottish cup)
Co2 I was good enough to play for Rangers in the CL and win every major honour in Scotland multiple times. I hope this helps ππ»β€οΈπ.