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02 Aug 2023 18:58:58
I spoke to an old friend today and he's under the impression there is another forward coming in and possibly a young GK. I was hopeful of a new CB and possible FB but doesn't seem to be to my knowledge anything close in that department. Is anyone picking anything up with regards to incomings?
1.) 02 Aug 2023 19:07:03
Yes, goalie if Mccrorie goes
Another forward player yes
Ch probably.
2.) 02 Aug 2023 19:18:36
Seems a few people are getting same info re a forward mate. Think once sakala goes and if we do get rid of Roofe that’s going to be the case. I’m very excited to see who this may be. I’ve a feeling it’s going to be a loan or a free.
Again very interested as to who the gk will be as it could spell the end of mccrorie and jono?
3.) 02 Aug 2023 19:33:08
Thanks for the reply, very interesting. Just saw the thread below about Sam Field also. Looks like we ain't done yet.
Be expecting a few to move on this week hopefully.
4.) 02 Aug 2023 19:33:38
Defensively we need another couple of players either on loan or signed.
5.) 02 Aug 2023 19:44:23
John u any idea on the ch’s we are wanting mate?
6.) 02 Aug 2023 20:01:03
Desperate for some defensive cover.
MB cannot say he is happy with our defense as it is surely?
Understand some need to go, but clearly easier than said to make it happen! But we need CB at the very least as a first team starter.
7.) 02 Aug 2023 20:25:50
For anyone who watches the youth sides or keeps up to date with them what about Hogarth isn't he just off the back of a decent season with Alloa do we rate him much. Same question for Wright and Budinauckas?
8.) 02 Aug 2023 20:44:01
Can't see any club in English championship for example McCrorie would be first choice other than possibly Sheffield Wednesday and even there it would be difficult . So either lower league or go abroad it would appear or stay here accept good money and support and fight for a place as he would have to do anywhere else at a good level.
9.) 02 Aug 2023 20:46:37
John if they go for another forward do you know if it be a striker or a winger they’d be looking for.
10.) 02 aug 2023 20:51:00
said for months, don't rule shankland out.
11.) 02 Aug 2023 21:08:27
lets get rid of two proven forwards
in colak n sakala
to bring in somdy to do exactly the same job that might be crap no fit in
i think we are putting too much onto new players who we don't know can cut it in our league
we ain't got a lot of time too fall behind celtic with unproven players
keep some soine in your team.
12.) 02 Aug 2023 21:18:12
Gadji I think mccrorie is making a mistake. If Butland gets injured he could take over and never look back.
Look at McGregor when letizi got injured.
We were willing to sell shagger to Dunfermline and they couldn’t come up with the £300k asking price so he stayed and never looked back.
I feel it’s exactly same with mccrorie. He would see off mcglaughlin no problem so he should sit tight this season and re evaluate next summer.
13.) 02 Aug 2023 21:19:33
Callum r they r all ok but no experience at all
Bluewell i'd call him a striker
Gadji I think that bridge is burnt.
14.) 02 Aug 2023 21:26:29
John27 Sheff wed? yes I think so, StevieG2 yes I agree.
15.) 02 Aug 2023 21:27:29
Fraser scored a screamer yesterday for the B team and can play at Leftback. Him and Yilmaz. Punt Barasic.
16.) 02 Aug 2023 21:32:09
Stevie Mccrorie wants to be in Germany with Scotland.
17.) 02 Aug 2023 22:08:03
I think Hogarth is going out on loan again this season likely to a higher level maybe championship.
Recanted is meant be a good keeper think he will be the b team keeper this season.
Budinaukis I know nothing about other than is highly rated
Cannot believe mb has told mccrorie mcglaughlin will be no2
That’s shocking man.
18.) 02 Aug 2023 22:12:53
Who's the striker John?
19.) 02 Aug 2023 22:49:15
Cervantes*.
20.) 02 Aug 2023 22:56:15
We had 6 keepers listed with the B team last season and Hogarth out on loan add Graeme Smith the coach recently retired and younger than McGregor it would appear we don't know much about assessing keepers, so if M/ well want a couple and some money for Kelly we might be able to sort that. Though he had a few howlers last season but we might put that down to what's in front of him, can't see McCrorie going there for the wages he would be on.
21.) 03 Aug 2023 02:45:52
Thanks for the responses just wondering how we actually rated the lads, Definitely going to need a No.2 if mccrorie goes just a hard thing to sell someone I suppose.
22.) 03 Aug 2023 06:54:53
CallamR Beale has told mcglaughlin he will be no2 next season that’s why mccrorie has said he wants to leave.
Can’t fathom it myself mate but apparently that’s what’s been said and done.
For me mccrorie should be no2 and given guarantees of 20 games a season if we stay in the cups obv if not his numbers come down.
Mcglaughlin we should let go for £250k if we can n if not I’d say he’s free to find a new club.
Mccrorie had a point here he’s never put a single foot wrong for us, I was unconvinced at Aberdeen but he’s always looked more than sound with us.
23.) 03 Aug 2023 07:53:38
Stevie what u mean re Cervantes.
24.) 03 Aug 2023 08:38:52
Blue dreamer we need better than colak and sakala there is nothing more to it than that. couldn't trap a bag of cement between them. Ill take my chances on the new guys, if it goes belly up then its Beales head.
25.) 03 Aug 2023 10:27:16
'Two proven forwards'. Proven in what exactly? Colak proven to go completely missing, not only in big games, but just generally missing on the park.
Sakala is raw and works hard but anyone with eyes can see we need better, and at £4m we are doing well to move him on.
26.) 03 Aug 2023 10:45:53
John I said Cervantes likely the b team keeper this season. I goat auto corrected to ‘recanted’
Was just fixing it mate.
27.) 03 Aug 2023 13:39:26
Wish I had a quid everytime "I spoke to" or "I was told"or"Source" is on this page.
28.) 03 Aug 2023 16:43:59
Defraz one said "sauce " no idea if they meant red or brown.
29.) 03 Aug 2023 17:16:55
McGlaughlan's contract is up next summer. No way he's getting a new one so no way he's our backup keeper.
30.) 03 Aug 2023 18:00:54
Stevie we sold him back to US in March due to being homesick.
31.) 04 Aug 2023 12:46:49
Really John? Never knew that mate. I kno wan he was highly rated donu know what we got for him? I know won’t have been much.
12 Jul 2023 15:46:00
Talking about CB's anyone heard anything with regards to Trusty? I believe he is still with National team and won't make decision until afterwards?
Panzo has went quiet, I reckon he has plenty offers and considering them and waiting to see if anything else pops up ?
Any the lads in the know picking anything up?
1.) 12 Jul 2023 15:54:42
Balogun signed on £3k a week deal - great character around the place i know its not what everyone wants but its a cheap option that can pay dividends - how the big man performed against the other mob was outstanding - 4 or 5 performances like that makes him well worth the money - i never wanted him to go in first place -.
2.) 12 Jul 2023 15:59:18
Nothing new but in an interview Beale hinted towards more Signings coming which could be towards a defender Jose Cifuentes possibly soon enough Panzo is down to fee and Rangers reluctant to spend what they are looking for Leon king may just have changed that I'm not saying it will but I'm guessing.
3.) 12 Jul 2023 16:02:22
I’m not in the know mate but imo trusty will be joining us after his international commitments are complete.
Panzo seems to be dragging on a bit doesn’t it.
Think it was a very wise move bringing balogun in just now so we know we have cover in defence who needs no time to settle no hassles or worries, trusty may well come in on loan with first refusal at a higher price as £2m sounds too cheap to be believed
Panzo may well come in a swap for bb I think I heard that said previously .
We may see Davies sold now that balogun is in the door and use that money to fund the other defender whoever it will be.
Looking from outside central defence next season looks like
Goldson (Souttar)
Trusty (panzo)
Balogun 5th choice.
4.) 12 Jul 2023 16:05:13
Ipswich is meant to be after trusty surely we can beat them to the signing we have European football and chance to win titles and cups.
5.) 12 Jul 2023 16:18:12
Balogun is already in Germany with the team so seems like there must have been some prior knowledge?
I am not against this move as long as we get another 1st choice LCB in soon.
RCB - Goldson, Souttar
LCB - NewLCB, Davies (or replacement)
Back up - Balogun
This would have allowed King to go on loan (now recovery) and given us good depth.
Balogun wouldn't have taken much convincing as he calls this club his home so not much outlay needed I would assume.
6.) 12 Jul 2023 16:48:24
I love big balogun I didn’t want him to leave thought he more than earned a new deal.
The fact he has came in on £3k a week (will barely cover his rent and bills) shows he’s basically playing or rather standing by for free.
This shows great commitment.
Anyone in the know?
Would rangers be covering his housing costs while he’s here as it’s a 1 year deal and on £3k a week it’s not a lot considering he has a family so essential costs and housing for a (likely) millionaire footballer it’s nothing reall n is it. ?
Would we be covering the cost of his housing for example? Ed even? Would u be in the know on these type of situation I’m just curious.
7.) 12 Jul 2023 17:00:06
Nizzy, europe/ cups/ titles are not the first thing on players minds any more, Unfortunately . or we would have a wee queue!
8.) 12 Jul 2023 17:06:50
I've had a wee seesaw of thoughts on Balagun coming in. Was a bit on the negative with it. But just thinking about it this may be a short term cover as the club may rate King highly and see him as first team going forward. Would still like to see another ch come in but that's because I'm not sure on Davies being the solution and soutar staying fit. I think we'll sign another CB and Leon will cover till king is back.
9.) 12 Jul 2023 17:12:08
Panzo and trusty ain’t signing for us mate why would he be 5th choice to players who don’t play for us.
10.) 12 Jul 2023 17:16:52
Trusty in international business until the final on 17th July. Maybe see some movement after that.
11.) 12 Jul 2023 17:47:05
Stevie appears that’s his weekly wage, then paid if in match day squad or first 11.
Same type deal Flannagan had.
12.) 12 Jul 2023 17:59:15
I loved big Balogun when he was here, but he's signed for cover for these cl qualifiers pretty much. It's either that or we go in possibly starting mayo if soutter or Davies pick up an injury. Personally wouldn't be comfortable with that after we threw king to the lions in cl last year. No brained for money involved and Leon will be well aware he won't be a starter every week.
13.) 12 Jul 2023 18:07:11
trusty isn't in the gold cup squad.
14.) 12 Jul 2023 18:19:02
M king very interesting info.
15.) 12 Jul 2023 18:59:14
Sensible view and understanding of the balogun signing Herewego55 ? I agree with you totally ?Some panty wetting on here for nothing ?.
16.) 12 Jul 2023 19:31:47
Agree BlueRunner.
At first I wasn’t sure what to make of the Balogun signing, however the more I think about it and read that it wasn’t just a knee jerk reaction and was planned in order to let King go out on loan the more it makes sense.
I believe we will sign another left sided CB regardless and if Davies is moving on a replacement for him.
I do feel we need to sign a quality LCB ASAP though.
17.) 12 Jul 2023 21:16:22
So it’s panty wetting because people don’t agree with you coops? Embarrassing comment.
18.) 12 Jul 2023 21:32:52
Walter, no one is wetting their pants, just disappointed with the signing of a 35 year old, who has missed a lot of last season through injury, Beale seems to say one thing and do another.
19.) 12 Jul 2023 21:45:17
Stevie it varies from deal to deal, some the club pays, some the club arranges for the players and others the players sort themselves. The guys signed on long deals, particularly from abroad generally get their first year paid by club as a minimum. I know club covered Alfies rent for his full contract but Kent only got 1 year paid by club.
20.) 12 Jul 2023 22:00:00
Storm the same panty wetter, who we signing, is it a reliable source, is it our mutual friend.
21.) 12 Jul 2023 23:04:07
Hope you've changed your underwear stormtrooper ?.
22.) 13 Jul 2023 00:34:10
The balagun signing is actually a signing that everyone should agree both sides of the arguments have valid points, time will tell how good the signing is.
23.) 13 Jul 2023 14:01:37
Huey cheers mate, interesting to know even Morelos and Kent had theirs covered although such high earners. That’s crazy. I thought maybe the one year deals or the loans and with balogun being used to a certain standard of life I’d guess his rent will be thousands a month not much less than his contract. Interesting stuff mate.
24.) 13 Jul 2023 14:31:31
Balogun showed rangers and the fans nothing but love and respect so we should do same with him.
Welcome home balogun ??.
17 Jul 2022 22:18:17
Quite pleased if we get Davies over the line. He's a good footballer, very good at reading the game and his distribution is good. Another ball playing defender and left footed which we need.
Couple of wee question marks on injuries and the fee seemed slightly high but overall am happy with this one if its goes through.
1.) 18 Jul 2022 08:11:10
Totally agree arcade. For me I think he is a slightly better option than a fit Hellander.
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23 Apr 2024 23:47:19
I wish we would play 2 uptop, and form a strike partnership. Less burden on one man.
I'm sick of 433 and it's variations. We've played this way for years under various managers. Every team in the league knows how we play.
It's so one dimensional and easy to defend against. We always isolate our striker and wonder why we haven't had a 30goal a season man on the books. We also have fullbacks and wingers all trying to run into the same space it's just awful to watch and its been this way for years.
I hope moving forward if Clement gets backed we see a different style and formation.
He just doesn't have the personel at the minute and given when he came in, his main job was to steady the ship. And he's done great in that respect. He picked us up off the floor and got us competing again. No matter how this season pans out he deserves a lot of credit for that.
But personally I really do hope he rips the script up next season. I know football has moved on from 442 but how about a 352 or something?
1.) 24 Apr 2024 05:20:02
Always liked a 4 3 1 2. With a 10 behind the front 2 with free range.
2.) 24 Apr 2024 07:13:37
I'm a big fan of 2 strikers up top, but it seems to be a lot less fashionable now (Unless you're Coldo) . Could it work? Of course it could, it's the SPL we play in.
3.) 24 Apr 2024 07:56:40
Arcade - i get what you're saying bud but you'd be playing 3 CBs in 90% of our games where teams sit in against us.
4.) 24 Apr 2024 08:08:08
To be fair it has always puzzled me why we play with 1 striker against teams that sit back. We should be playing 2 strikers. Successful Rangers teams almost always played two strikers domestically with the exception sometimes against Celtic. Roofe and Morelos 4-1 v them during 55 comes to mind. Yeah absolutely no need to overload with midfielders.
5.) 24 Apr 2024 08:09:27
I always preferred 4 4 2.
6.) 24 Apr 2024 08:36:08
I agree mate. We've stubbornly stuck to this formation but not bought players to play that formation playing players out of position. Have always liked idea of 352 or variation. Gives better protection as fullbacks are more attacking these days. Would help solve the Tav arguments. And given we tend to play 2 defensive mids it's not really more defensive.
7.) 24 Apr 2024 10:33:32
Great to hear support for 442. Many CB not used to handling 2 up front - look at C-V against the sheep, did not look happy when facing two big lads.
But the actual point is we need plan B, and for that matter c, d and e. We always play the same way, the subs never change the shape, we are way too easy to read. The mob closed us down last time and Lunny was often struggling to find an out ball. We need to put out a formation appropriate to the opposition - and be able to adapt during the game.
The long ball is not sacrilegious. We are not Real / PSG / City - we don’t have to play it out from the back every time. Whenever I see Goldson shaping to give super JB yet another bouncing 20 yr back pass I’m off to find a fresh pair of Calvin Kleins!
Try Roofe and Dessy on together for 20 mins, change it up now and again? Cantwell came deep a lot on Sunday, found acres of space, and drove at them, I can see him playing in a midfield 4. Obviously not saying we should drop the formation that we know well, but we need other options.
8.) 24 Apr 2024 11:02:39
Ive been harping on about 2 up front for about 5 years, especially when at Ibrox 90% of the time not having two strikers up top for me is criminal, we would score far more goals than this supposed 3 attackers in the box, its nonsense one up top leaves or strikers far too isolated.
9.) 24 Apr 2024 13:03:08
2 up top is outdated whether we like it or not.
Most teams may have formations such as 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 etc but they are set up to be fluid in attack or defence.
The issue is having the personal capable of following / understanding the managers remit.
10.) 24 Apr 2024 13:27:24
Big fat no for me on the 2 up front.
It's outdated because it's not as effective on the ball as having a 10 playing between the lines and arriving late into the box.
I also think off the ball it makes a high press difficult.
Very few top managers play a front 2 for a reason.
11.) 24 Apr 2024 14:42:55
That's been the issue for years "understanding the managers remit". Maybe we should try a remit that keeps the game simple after all football is a simple game. 442 is not as outdated as we think., Inter played 422 all the way to the champs league final last year. Atl Madrid were playing 442. We have played 433 variations since we returned to the SPL in 2016 and it hasn't really been successful. So maybe it is time to try something else?
12.) 24 Apr 2024 15:08:42
Tommy, we haven't been that effective on and off the ball using variations of the 433 either. Inter Milan just won Seria A playing with a front two.
13.) 24 Apr 2024 16:29:51
There’s a reason why nearly every top manager doesn’t play with 2 strikers. You okay 442 you get out numbered in midfield you play 352 you are too defensive and for us a team in a league where every team sits behind the ball it would be pointless. We need to sign two good wingers and a striker who will be quick and can score and no one will complain about 433. Personnel is the problem not formation.
14.) 24 Apr 2024 17:03:00
Only way you work a 2 up top is if you're totally rigid at the back, ie, Italian.
442 has tried making a comeback but it doesn't work.
4312 is useless. Beale tried it.
15.) 24 Apr 2024 18:51:27
In your opinion tjn, my opinion is different. Beales a Diddy PC isnt, that's the difference.
16.) 24 Apr 2024 19:52:07
4 4 2 all day long.
17.) 25 Apr 2024 07:27:08
Before we even consider 4-4-2, we would need to employ a manager who wants to play that way.
I'm sure there will be a few available in the Lowland, Juniors or Amateur leagues.
21 Apr 2024 17:28:17
Happy to be in another final, especially against that other mob.
Kudos to Clement for taking a struggling Goldson out the team.
Just need to keep winning games of football now by any means possible. Doesn't need to be pretty.
Keep asking the question of them every week and who knows.
By the way it's been done before!
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14 Mar 2024 19:45:20
Absolutely gutted to bow out of Europe but congratulations to Benfica.
We just never tested the keeper enough for a home game and our attacking let us down at times. The effort was there, the lads gave their all and I'm proud of Clement and the Boys.
The fans were fantastic ? as always. Just a bridge to far for us this year. Let's focus domestically now and go and win this League and Scottish Cup.
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07 Mar 2024 12:13:54
Thursday Nights are Europa nights!
I'm quietly confident of us getting something from this game and doing the job at the Blue Sea.
Don't think Big Phil will play players out of position tonight, barring maybe Sterling, who could play anywhere.
I think a reshuffle maybe 352 / 532 type and try stifle them. If we score first, that home crowd will go into meltdown. They already baying for blood after Porto result. Let's stay in the tie and bring them home. Follow Follow WATP.
28 Feb 2024 21:59:29
Well done lads we pulled that one out the fire. Was fearing the worst at HT but I still believed we would get something out the game. 3 points are all that matters.
The manager did well making the changes at HT. Barisic has been a good servant over the years but his time has got to be over he's a liability am sad to say. Yilmaz showed he's ready to be no.1 and we need a direct competitor in LB position (probably Jefte) .
Dessers put in a good shift and his presence and workrate helped us get up the pitch more, was unlucky hitting the bar. Sterling too he just seems to keep running and gives his all.
Cptn Tav what a goal! ? picked us up when we needed most and Lawrence finish was cool, calm and collected when he could've easily blasted it over the bar. Shout out to Soutter who had a decent performance at the back. And let's no forget that PHENOMENAL save from Butland at 1-0.
Shame to see Cortes off another victim to that stinker of a pitch.
But the juggernaut rolls on, one game at a time! WATP.
19 Aug 2023 17:11:27
Demarai Gray would be an absolute coup of a signing. Very good player and would rip up in our league.
Dont know much about Field tbh and Cooper has always been on or radar I've seen him a few times he's a big unit and has everything u want from a CB.
Cheers for passing on what you've heard mate.
Kamara will go not sure about Lunny I love the big guy but i'm hearing rumbles that has family want him back down the road, Ben Davies similar situation.
02 Aug 2023 19:33:08
Thanks for the reply, very interesting. Just saw the thread below about Sam Field also. Looks like we ain't done yet.
Be expecting a few to move on this week hopefully.
28 Jul 2023 17:12:27
@John27 u big tease ? I hope its Trusty but maybe one that's been kept hush hush, very interesting mate.
22 Jul 2022 19:03:31
I'm not sure on this one. He strikes me as a player who needs to feel at home, maybe needs an arm round him and given a chance.
Maybe we could provide that type of environment for him to really flourish.
As someone said, Makaay was a very very good striker working with him could spark him into life.
I don't think we will go for him unless Wolves allow a loan deal but can't see that as they looking for some of the 16mill they paid for this lad and his current deal has one year left I believe. Unless we get him at a significantly reduced price and they decide to cut their loses.
21 Jul 2022 16:16:27
Be a fantastic addition he has the lot. let's hope we can do a deal.
28 Feb 2024 19:03:08
The puddle drinkers can do no wrong remember mate.
28 Feb 2024 19:01:32
I think he's good to go now but perhaps your right especially with our luck with injuries.
So that's potentially Raskin, Soutter, Lawrence, Roofe, Matondo all at missing tonight due to that shambles of a patch. Unreal at this level these pitches are allowed. I've played on them personally and it is heavy on the legs afterwards not to mention slide tackling or falling is on them.
25 Feb 2024 02:46:06
Hit send to quickly. I've always said Dessers would come good. Even when he was struggling I said he definitely get double figures. And I'm very happy to see him hitting his stride.
His movement today was fantastic. Took his goals very well. When will that hat trick come? There is going to be a game he buries every chance and actually carries abit of luck for a change. His workrate is just brilliant. Always keeping the opposition backline on their toes.
I agree he will be pivotal in any success this season.
24 Feb 2024 20:55:19
I'd let him hit it ?.
08 Feb 2024 19:24:34
Not sure on Hagi but I reckon that ships sailed now we have better players I can't see him getting a game for us but who knows.
Lundstram will sign IMO he loves the club and is a hugely important player in how Clement wants us to play. He could be persuaded to leave by a team from EPL but I just don't see it.