01 Oct 2023 10:00:01
Not sure about anyone else but a found it weird that Jack and ridvan got subbed at half time due to injury both looked fine in the first half to me got a feeling there was a few words said in the dressing room at half time the players don't look together at all something is going on in the background.


1.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 10:19:07
Agreed both looked fine and I thought it strange at the time, Jack i think is the type to speak his mind so possibly something in this.


2.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 11:23:29
Jack was terrible yesterday- far too safe and slow with the ball. I wasn't surprised he didn't come out for second half but was surprised to hear it was due to injury as opposed to him just being hooked for his poor display.


3.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 12:21:27
Let's not start hanging players out to dry when it's clearly the managers fault.


4.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 12:36:57
Gofor the players need to take responsibility also for poor performances they don’t get a get out clause.


5.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 12:45:57
Agreed players need to take blame aswel but that was what I meant players have spoken there mind at half time told some home truths a just feel sorry for the fans who have forked out all the money they have so far and have to sit through the dross we have at the moment just not good enough.


6.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 13:19:52
Mb said they were un able to continue.


7.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 14:03:56
Storm your spot on the players need to understand that they play for the club not the manager! If it is an unhappy dressing room then the captain should take it to the appropriate person.


8.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 14:11:27
Ryan Jack is the buffer between defence and the flair players.
Yesterday in that 45 minutes, Jack:-
98% pass accuracy
Lost possession ONCE.
1 accurate cross out of 1.
80% pass accuracy with long balls.
Created 1 big chance.
Poor? Hardly think so.


9.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 14:33:45
Ph exactly. It’s never been his role otherwise. To be honest he is getting more game time than I thought.


10.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 14:50:54
Yilmaz probably shouldn`t have started, he has a history of hamstring problems and it was a hamstring cramp that caused him to go off on Wednesday. He played to rest Borna for Thursday because Yilmaz is not in the Euro squad. Jack can`t play two games in a week its as simple as that, but there was nobody else. If he had been fit he would have stayed on and the awful Cifuentes been hooked. We`ve been conned by You Tube hype again, when will we ever learn.


11.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 15:51:02
Playing 5 yard passes MPH he should have a High percentage.


12.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 16:31:48
That’s his job though, Storm?
If he played his current role and his pass accuracy was 50% I’d be going tonto!


13.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 16:57:54
Correct Storm and how many of his "long passes" were more than 10 yards either backwards or sideways? Citing useless stats is what is expected of that numpty Buzz on the other site MPH. No amount of skewed stats will take away from how ponderous or slow a player was in the game. I'd much rather a player tries to find a player in space as opposed to taking the safe option all the time.


14.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 17:26:09
Both clearly faking injury like Tillman did in the cup game last season against Celtic. Let’s hound them out the club.


15.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 17:42:29
He’d 4 out of 5 long balls accurate, Stillblue.
The other was the only time he gave the ball away.
And they are only ‘useless’ to yourself as you are expecting him to play a different role.
That isn’t his role in the team though?‍♂️.


16.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 17:46:05
Still blue - Lundstrum and cifuentes were awful. Jack was the best if the 3.


17.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 18:22:24
Sick of the ryan Jack passing stats. Like storm says raving about a 98 percent pass completion rate when they are 5 yard passes means nothing. What was bitlands pass completion rate? 100 percent?


18.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 18:34:59
Storm I understand jack but talk was ridvan was not even fit before the game it was Beale who wanted to go with him knowing he wasn't fit in fact he even played it down before hand and then has to take him off sounds like managers fault to me.

Also if you look at how they played ridvan kept coming inside so it could also have been a tactical switch.


19.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 18:49:17
Unfortunately, passing stats aren’t Butland’s main job, OT. ?
It’s keeping the ball out the net and he conceded 3.?‍♂️
Jacks job is to fetch, carry and pass to the more attack minded players. He done it exceptionally well?‍♂️.


20.) 01 Oct 2023
01 Oct 2023 19:21:39
Lundstram was miles better than Jack who has lost the ability to make a simple forward pass but both were still better than Cifuentes who is a waste of a shirt.