14 Jan 2015 14:41:36
Can't believe that Sir David Murray has voiced his concern at the stalemate between board and rival factions which is preventing much needed funds coming into the club, rather rich coming from a man who almost single handedly got us into the mire and who's idea of getting the club back on a sound financial footing was to sell to the first chancer to come along for a quid, well don't worry yourself SDM leave that to those you left behind to suffer the results of your actions. WATP


1.) 14 Jan 2015
Yes Soton bear, he has certainly got a brass neck and quite ironic that his comments come at the same time as the 'other' 3 murray companies cited by hmrc are to be liquidated. I wonder what these liquidations will expose.


2.) 14 Jan 2015
I hope he never darkens Ibrox again. Businessman my arse


3.) 14 Jan 2015
I wish he was there at the moment rather than the telegoons we have at the minute


4.) 14 Jan 2015
Royalblue, The day he took charge at Ibrox was the beginning of where we are now. His ego took us on a make-believe journey that he[we] could not afford and the end result was whyte taking charge. And before we get '' it was the bank'' crap, it should be noted that they funded everything, on false promises, and got back their outlays[ with interest. ]


5.) 14 Jan 2015
To Billyb and others. I know what you are saying about David Murray but don't you think it is a bit rich now having enjoyed the 9-in-a-row glory years? I doubt whether any of you or many other Rangers fans called the spending into question during these years, especially as we were winning everything in sight. Where you horrified when Gascoigne, De Boer or Laudrup signed for us? Of course with hindsight it was a short-sighted strategy but the revenue must have been coming in so what was it spent on?


6.) 14 Jan 2015
Doiger. Nine in a row was a great time for every Rangers fan, it will live with me forever, but the reality of it all is Murray was spending money he didn't have, he must have known as a top businessman he is that one day it would all catch up with him. So he bailed and so the nightmare continues.


7.) 14 Jan 2015
Doiger your 100% right gret players great football u were bursting to get to ibrox on a saturday I think the only way we will get back tob europe will be with arthur daly or on a bus


8.) 14 Jan 2015
Every business man uses the banks money they don't actually put their hand in their pocket n pull out 6 million almost 30 years ago to buy us, they use the banks money n garuntee that money with their assets. The only problem with SDM was his empire was majority property based and he had high mortgages and the recession hit n hit hard. Them man subsidised us to the tune of around 10 million a year every year we failed to qualify for the CL, he sold us with 18 million debt which was totally manageable. Whyte then fraudulently bought us and did not have the 10 million to plug the hole as a result of failure to qualify for the CL and the wee sh@te put us in admin ect.


9.) 14 Jan 2015
Agree 100% with DOIGER. No-one was questioning anything during the good times and anyone who comes on here to say that they questioned where the money was coming from I would question their honesty. We were all loving it. I also do not agree with the criticism of David Murray. He made mistakes but at least he had the interests of the club at heart and can not believe anyone would seriously question this.


10.) 14 Jan 2015
Just checked bears there were 8 seasons when we did not qualify for the CL so SDM subsidised us for 10 million every year and I also remember he sold 25% to Joe Lewis for 40 million and put it straight back into the club, some difference from then n now, I'd take SDM anytime and remember it was our most successful period ever so I think we have a cheek to slag the man.


11.) 14 Jan 2015
14 Jan 2015 18:58:03
Murray invested money in the club brought very good players to the club invested in the infrastructure the fans where well and truly entertained this man done more for the club than anyone else will do in a long time at our club people say there there was debt at our club but this was being reduced he was forced to sell club by the bank putting pressure on him and he will no the rest he what's transparency like the rest of the rangers fans some people have short memoirs


12.) 14 Jan 2015
N9. Kb and n10. Rm gers that's the way I see it as well,


13.) 14 Jan 2015
Doiger, A lot of good points, but the key to what was happening was that there was NOT enough coming in to cover outlays. Thereby, a systematic loss was being carried forward each year and then the recession comes. In the period when he was less involved we were being operated on a sensible economic basis and it was still a pleasure to watch our team, that is until, with his problems, the bank accelerated their requirement for their cash.


14.) 14 Jan 2015
At the end of the day any of the good work done by Murray has been more than matched by the awful mistake of selling to Whyte. To make matters worse he tried to tell us he was duped when it was common knowledge that the Rangers board at the time warned him about Whyte. For me Murray has been the catalyst for the disaster that we see today.


15.) 14 Jan 2015
Fellow Bears. I'm going to hold my hands up here. After reading all the posts maybe I was a bit harsh with my comments about sdm, I still believe in my opinion he made a lot of mistakes, wether they were honest ones or not we will never know, because after all I went along with it all, I lapped up the 9, I will never forget the night laudrup scored at tannadice or the Gazza treble against the sheep, great days and memories that will live with me forever. I'm just angry he sold Rangers to that little S. e Whyte.


16.) 14 Jan 2015
14 Jan 2015 21:30:45
David Murray - I refuse to call him Sir.
is as big a chancer like the rest of them.
How much did he put in personally? Sweet fanny you know what.
Played with Rangers with other peoples money until he was warned by the banks etc. He stated he would never sell the club to the wrong people. As big a bullshitter as the rest. He is a major factor why we are in the shitter.


17.) 14 Jan 2015
Billyb do you think mr Murray ever asked the bank if he could hand rangers fc over to the board on his watch? Cause our bent was under control as paul Murray and the board had our debt down considerably, we know em owed the bank money from mim, but surely it would have been better for scotish football to have a competitive league, with sponsors, instead of the situation as it is now for all. I know the s. f. a. and all top leagues SAY everything is fine but even darts is a more attended sport than football in our?wee country


18.) 14 Jan 2015
14 Jan 2015 21:58:13
I've taken what's happened since Murray sold on to whyte as hard as anybody but I'll tell you this I don't regret for one minute His many successful years as our chairman.

There are big clubs all over Europe who have never enjoyed such a sustained period of domestic dominance as we did under his Tenure. While I'm not in any way condoning his lack of judgment when passing the club to that basket case whyte,I'm not going to let it cloud my countless and unforgettable memories when times were good.

A huge part of being a Rangers fan is having the upper hand over Celtic and oh how they suffered under Murry. For all the bluster and bullishness that comes from that bawface chairman across the city read David Murry in his pomp! Make no mistake that's where he learned it and sees his time in charge as payback for the hurt Murry inflicted on his club.

There are obviously those who disagree but I wouldn't change it for the world. You have to take the rough with the smooth just ask your Celtic mates who as we do now,used to think it would never end.


19.) 15 Jan 2015
Good point George 123, but I don't think it entered his head. However, I still state it was dm's mis-management that put us in a vulnerable state and for all the pro murray posters I ask them to justify two situations:-
i] His statement '' for every £5 celtic spend we will spend £10. ''
ii] The signing of Flo, prior to the 'tic game for such a ridiculous fee.
Please tell me this is not the actions of an astute business brain.


20.) 15 Jan 2015
Aw come on George, don't take a sound bite and turn it into a mantra.
Why don't you stop going to Ibrox every second week and got to a darts match every second week?
Do you get see the problem?


21.) 15 Jan 2015
15 Jan 2015 10:49:41
regarding the statement for every 5 Celtic spend we will spend 10 did you or many complain about it when we won nine in a row or had all the the good players mols numan gio amoruso albertz gough hendry gascoigne laudrup the list is endless of good buys
have a look it flo stats first season 18 goals in 30 SPL games goal on debut against celtic second scoring 22 goals in 42 games we sure could do with a striker like him now he was a tad expensive but all the others above where good buys for rangers and the list is endless when murray sold the club debts where being payed back and where reduced now look at us limping from day to day wondering what is gona happen next
u for a club to progress u have to buy better quality of player and this means u have to spend more to get better quality look at Celtics recent signing of strikers for example balde 1.8 million pukki 2.4 million scepovic 2,3 million that's 6.5 million on 3 strikers and none are scoring goals for celtic personally I would rather spend my 6.5 million on one proven goal scorer u only get what u pay for


22.) 15 Jan 2015
Craigs8688, Ask yourself why these players signed and at what cost?
Yes we had great times but the simple fact is--- that is why we are in this mess. We were never in charge of the purse strings, he was.
He also destroyed the feature that was the backbone of our fan base for as long as I can remember, Rangers supporters clubs.


23.) 15 Jan 2015
Styab. I have not been to a game since whyte put us in admin, never been to home or away game, so I don't see the point in your post to me.


24.) 15 Jan 2015
Stab I have told people on here for three years now I ain't been to football games, I spend my Saturday afternoon on the golf course trying to get my handicap down, not with much success I hasten to add.