02 Oct 2024 11:32:39
From what iv seen on sky news, last night's CL result involving the super duper c*ltic, was carnage and could seriously been double figures. Beating Dortmund isn't for everyone though. ?
Now the harsh reality is Scottish football is going to lose CL altogether unless the standard of the league improves. The guys earning the big bucks at Hampden better start earning their money or we are all losing out.
02 Oct 2024 13:12:24
RTID Uefa don't help either as they make it more difficult for smaller nations to get into league set up. Top 5 nations getting 5 places etc means there is less room for the rest of us. SFA have questions to answer to try and make teams in the league play more kids as the SPL format doesn't encourage that IMO.
The positive little as it is that we might end up playing in Europa groups and conference league where we pick up more wins and move up table again getting into top 15 which gets ECL qualification. money not the same from qualifying but perhaps more win prizes.
02 Oct 2024 15:47:32
The reality is both teams are miles off it. We took a mauling off Liverpool and became the worst team in champions league history (hoping Slovan Bratislava keep up their form though).
Celtic have started the season fantastically, but it shows the absolute gulf in class at that level because that was a humiliation. This is what we need to avoid against Spurs and Man U as make no mistake. These are a class above us and even Celtic again.
02 Oct 2024 15:57:45
It was men vs boys. The game was over after 11 mins. At least when we got humped by Liverpool (who i would say were better back then than Dortmund are now), we scored first and i don't remember it being a total slaughter until Salah came on and scored his hat trick. LOL.
02 Oct 2024 17:55:33
Personally I'm otm they got pumped but I wish we had a team who could bear them and not rely on others as fir Europe the CL is about making as much money as possible and the EL is our standard ATM.
02 Oct 2024 18:21:10
We were doing not too badly against Liverpool until Goldson had to go off injured.
Its all opinions of course but I reckon the Dortmund team we beat in Dortmund was better than that one last night.
02 Oct 2024 18:25:03
Celtic made it easy for them, Dortmund passed through their press easily and had three + on two all the time, great to watch even better if we could do it.
02 Oct 2024 19:01:56
I agree lads but what is the point in getting into the champions League to get pumped every time ok money? Buy better players? Not happening? Seems like a total catch 22 to me a very vicious circle has been for ages.
02 Oct 2024 19:04:06
That Dortmund team were in champs league final a few months ago the team we beat was in Europa league I don’t know how anyone can say they were better then. Maybe with haaland but he never played against us at that time.
02 Oct 2024 19:36:32
storm they lost at least 6 of that team at end of season, Hummels, Fullkrug, Reus, Sancho, Maatsen and Sabitzer. so they were a new team last night. in the team we played they had Bellingham, Guerrero, Akanji and Malen with Brandt, Reus and Hummel a good few years younger and Germany internationals. so about opinions but I think that team were better as well.
02 Oct 2024 19:57:52
Sabitzer came on as a sub Angus.
02 Oct 2024 20:32:23
I'm sure Dortmund were in the semi final the season before we played them, they dropped down into the Europa the season we played them, not much in with that side and the side last night.
02 Oct 2024 21:01:43
Maatsen was a loan. Reus hasn’t been the same player for 2/ 3 years because of injuries and sabitzer is still there. Hummels 36/ 37 and fullkrug they replaced with a better striker so don’t get your point Angus ?
You are entitled to your opinion but the team you thought was better couldn’t even get in champs league so it’s bs ?.
02 Oct 2024 21:03:48
You would be wrong my star it was Man City Real Madrid Chelsea and psg ?
Ps it’s not hard to check before you post.
02 Oct 2024 21:04:56
It was 1/4 finals they got to mystar ?.
02 Oct 2024 21:56:08
cheers Fork knew he was in the team when we played them and never saw him in starting line up last night so thought he had moved on after Man Utd loan. It does explain why I read somewhere 5 had moved on when I had 6 in my list now.
02 Oct 2024 21:59:56
Was goi g to reply to the post further down but thought I’d start a new one so everyone sees it
Regarding the Celtic game last night I don't think theirs much in it either My star from last nights team. To the one we played?
Wee need to give ourselves more credit when it’s due
Our Europa league ventures are right up their
our team came alive in those nights and we matched everyone who crossed our paths and bet them when we had to up until the final where we only just lost out
Guys we played fkn well in those games and not just the run up to the final but results in precious years Europa campaigns and gave those teams a game who had much more money spent on them yet we still made it to the final with some excellent displays and results
don’t kid ourselves or down play it Celtic right now have a good squad and good depth but they have made a fortune off the back of us bringing Scotlands coefficient right up and giving them access to champs league football without the qualification rounds
It’s just a bloody nightmare our league form hasn't matched our European form/ results or we could have seen the fruits of our own labour
even against last week against Malmo we played some good football created loads of chances
we really seem suited to European football more now than Scottish league football
some say it’s because teams park the bus against us
Celtic don’t yet we struggle against them
Anyone ever thought recently stick a European top on Celtic call it a Europa game and I do wonder how we would fair ? Joking kind of ?
European football we just raise a bar that we can’t find domestically that’s very frustrating and been like that while now and because of it Celtic find themselves in the thick of champs league football where they struggled and come back to domestic and score 5-6 etc
Celtic in Europa haven’t even Been great either before anyone mentions its champs league
Anyway dortmund I agree with my star not a lot in it and we held our own.
02 Oct 2024 22:02:18
My star they made it to 1/ 4s where they were beaten by Man City. they dropped out of ECL groups the season we played them.
02 Oct 2024 22:08:22
We were doing brilliantly in the Cl against liverpool until both Goldson and Jack went off with long tetm injuries. That was the baw burst for the rest of the tournament.
02 Oct 2024 22:10:10
No worries bud.
02 Oct 2024 22:38:09
Why check storm?
03 Oct 2024 00:53:06
Only reason Celtic even got into the champions league was Purely due to Rangers success in the Europa league under Gerrard in the first 2 seasons, let's be honest though neither Celtic or Rangers are on the level required for a succesful Champions league campaign.
lets not forget the season Celtic dropped out of all 3 competitions at the first stage, that is still a scottish epic fail record ;)
03 Oct 2024 08:27:10
Storm. the point being is that you said that that team were in the Champions league final a few months ago. However they lost 5 of those players so it isn't that team in fact probably only half that team. those players you write off to try and win the 'argument' BTW were good enough to reach the ECL final, let's see if this group manage that. that's The thing about having this type of opinion sometimes you only have to wait until the end of the season to see who is right.
you are correct it is my opinion that Bellingham, Akanji, Guerrero and a younger Hummels, Brandt and Reus who 2 or 3 years ago according to you was better then make the team we beat better than the one on Tuesday. this is one where we'll never know but that is what the forum is about having different opinions with everyone thinking theirs is right.
03 Oct 2024 08:30:49
My star there is no reason to and if you are wrong then other posters can let you know (politely) I knew from what you had written you were doing it from memory. It then spurred my interest so I checked as it is what I like doing. filled in 5 minutes of my work day so thanks ?.
03 Oct 2024 12:42:04
Get involved with MLS rather than UEFA competition, don't need to travel by Titanic style now. That market is massive and much more entertaining. We are priced out of competing in Europe and the gubbing the beggars got will happen more and more. That should have been 12-1.
03 Oct 2024 12:44:06
Laudruphagi - the only reason Celtic are in the champions league is because they keep winning the league and whilst they may have been knocked out of all 3 competitions, we currently are the worst team in champions league history.
03 Oct 2024 17:32:54
Tav123, we will see next year if they are still there when the automatic place disappears which was there for them from the coefficient we built up in the last 5 years. once they have to play qualifiers then they might not make the groups if they don't get an easy draw. then their automatic £20-£40M depending what you read will disappear as well. So the point Laudruphagi makes has merit as it was one of the reasons which meant Celtic made the group stages.
03 Oct 2024 19:33:26
Why check my star? So you don’t look like a clown getting it wrong that’s why. ?
Angus 5 players don’t make a team these days it’s the full squad.
I ain’t trying to do anything as I know I am right on this but thanks for trying ? also if they had better than those 5 they may have won it instead of getting beat in final.
04 Oct 2024 10:42:48
? did I say I'm positive or sure storm?
04 Oct 2024 18:13:24
Yeah my star it’s you. You barely ever get anything right on here.
04 Oct 2024 20:07:53
Aye ok storm?, your just a clown to serval on here that's all.