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04 Jun 2020 08:00:37
Have I got this correct? An individual with links to Hearts comes alone and offers £4mil to restructure the leagues which keeps Hearts in the top league giving every team a share of the pot.

Is that what's happening or have I got it completely wrong? What if Hearts are bottom again next season can he come back with another £4mil and restructure to a 16 team league keeping hearts up again.

Are we up for sale here? When we win the league next season can desmond come in and offer the spfl, say, £5mil to put them forward as Scotlands representatives in the champions league? As I say I've probably missed something but I know there's plenty out there that will put me right.

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04 Jun 2020 09:53:35
Jyf. no point going on about Desmond or Celtic running the show when rangers board vote for them to be awarded champions.
Empty vessels make the most noise. Rangers backdown at the first hurdle certainly made them look like a big empty vessel.
Shouting for weeks about dossiers that will bring Spfl down, only to make themselves look like fools when all the dossier contained was hearsay nonsense.
No backbone, no fight, no chance of any respect when they run away with their tails between their legs, when the big boys flex their muscles.

04 Jun 2020 10:16:52
Are you still masquerading as a Rangers fan blue. Perhaps you missed the bit where most teams voted against having an inquiry, for their own wee reasons, and nobody said anything about bringing the spfl down except perhaps the mhedia. The league is yours, all bought and paid for, with no money owing. Why don't you want to finish the season? One word ADIDAS.

04 Jun 2020 10:26:42
Hit the nail on the head there Jyf 🤣👏🏻.

04 Jun 2020 11:48:14
Blue brother, i think not, more like green eyed monster, what did you think of stewart Robertson's video blue, don't you worry the futures bright . lol.

04 Jun 2020 14:06:50
YER right jyf. if dd gets a cold we will have to surrender another title cause apparently its the money that counts. Finally showing the reality of sporting integrity in Scotland.

04 Jun 2020 17:31:56
So just to be clear you believe that smaller clubs and those struggling financially should have ran the risk of going out of business to support Rangers motion even if the didn’t agree to this. You also think this was all organised by Peter and Desmond so that Celtic would be “given” the league despite the fact they were 13 points clear with 8 games to go. They had been un beaten domestically and only dropped 2 points since the split these are hardly the stats of a team in trouble.

Also on another thread you are talking about boycotting away grounds despite the fact it is more than likely most of next season will be behind closed doors! Honestly you guys used to laugh at Celtic fans for their paranoia what do you think now.

04 Jun 2020 17:57:18
We did use to laugh at your paranoia mojo.
We now laugh at your obsession with all things rangers 😉.

04 Jun 2020 20:01:30
Mr mojo where have you been? You obviously misread the situation Rangers wanted to complete the season AND pay the prize money out immediately in some form or another but were told this is impossible, then we pointed out they gave motherwell a lone but OH NO! it was not a lone but an advance, ring any bells or does is it not suit your agenda to read facts. Well here's another FACT the spfl had 9 games left until completion and you had to play us twice, do any of us sound worried about that? All we ever argued about was to finish the season is that so wrong. Answer me this if you will why did yous not want an enquiry? Did yous really see no wrong being done or as I suspect you know that the whole situation stinks of at best incompetency at worst corruption. The rest of Europe are playing football. What about adidas what do you say about that?

04 Jun 2020 21:18:29
Jyf I was taking a break as not much really happening in football just now. To your points very few teams wanted an enquired due to the fact Rangers evidence amouned to hearsay and petty squabbles. I know you guys keep mentioing the 2 games you had against us but you all talk like the points were yours and the game in hand was going to be won then it's down to 4 points.

Even, in the unlikely even that did happen, Celtic would still need to lose another 2 games due to the goal difference. So a team on a run likes Celtic would need to lose 4 out of their last 8 games and considering that they had only lost 2 all season and when the league split they would have had more home games than away the probability of that is tiny.

You then factor in Rangers going on a 9 game unbeaten run, winning all games, then that becomes even less so Celtic were not panicking or needed to rush calling the league early as would have been won on the pitch.

You cite the Adidas deal but even you admit on another thread you know nothing about it and have no idea if the would walk away. In 2019 they turned over 19 billion euros. Yes they have went to the government for money but so have a lot of major companies but as the world gets back on its feet that would not be an issue. £30m over 5 years is nothing to Adidas when you look at other deals they have so all you are doing is adding 2 and 2 and getting 5 and making up scenarios that don't exist.

Hope this answers your points as would want to look like I am ducking a question.

04 Jun 2020 21:31:50
How do you figure 'unbeaten domestically', are you ignoring that we beat uz in the league at the pig sty?

05 Jun 2020 00:48:43
Win the game in hand and it’s 10 points!
Outclass them again in the remaining 2 oldfirms game and it 4 points!
Seriously trying to tell me they couldn’t drop 4 points in 6 games? They just scraped a result against livi post lockdown and toffee teeths arse would’ve collapsed!

05 Jun 2020 08:40:59
Bizzmybrox sorry I wasn’t clear I was referring to post split results.

05 Jun 2020 09:38:53
I agree wi Bluebrother, all this smoking gun talk was just as many of us suspected all along, all talk and no evidence.

I as a dedicated Rangers supporter I feel humiliated by our club and honestly felt this would always be the outcome.

The smoking gun evidence if there had been any would have been sent to the police.

SMOKING GUN? more like a pile of smoking sheet.

Let's get revenge by winning the league next season.

05 Jun 2020 11:10:32
you mate are beyond belief, i don't think you could make a post sound genuine to convince gers supporters on here that you are not a tim.

05 Jun 2020 11:22:20
Sir Walter on the night Celtic were scrapping a result against Livingstone Rangers were losing at home to Hamilton having previously lost to Hearts both of whom were bottom of the league. In the last game before lockdown Rangers scrapped a 0-1 result against Ross County whilst Celtic won 5-0 at home to St Mirren. I think we both know who the in form team was post split so no reason for anyone to panic.

In fact when Celtic had a bad result they bounced back in the next game not something that indicates a team likely to go in to free fall if they lost at Ibrox.

05 Jun 2020 11:27:20
I can't really be bothered with you today mrmojo but why did liewell address all the chairmen with an impassioned plea to reject our proposal of an independent inquiry? Only one team have benefited from ending the league so early and declaring winners and losers. Of course I know nothing about the adidas deal but if you are telling me that by not being in a position to start the deal on 1st July as contracted then at least new negotiations would have to be made then you are in denial.
And here is a final undeniable FACT, Rangers could have caught you and actually won the league by 14 points but you use the balance of probability to say this is unlikely so you would PROBABLY have won the league in your eyes, in every ones eyes you were given it. Using the same balance of probability whos going to win the league next season and when should it be gifted?

05 Jun 2020 11:55:14
Hi Jyf, spot on mate, my question is, and, should have forcibly been asked by Rangers, is, why was Lawell allowed to address anybody, he is not on the Board of the SPFL, his only role is one at UEFA now, I may be wrong, your right, we lacked a bit of backbone in our final bowing to the inevitable.

05 Jun 2020 13:01:38
Also mrmojo the split had not occurred yet so what are you talking about RE "unbeaten domestically"?
Also my original question, not to you I may add, was have I got this right about a Hearts benefactor buying Hearts a place in the top league but since you answered and don't want to duck my questions, do I have it right.

05 Jun 2020 15:23:10
Jyf and irvger to try and answer your questions as best I can The meeting were Peter Lawwell addressed the clubs was a meeting for ALL club chairmen for discuss the proposed vote and the evidence presented by Rangers and I am sure others spoke but no headline if the Forfar chairman speaks up. You guys are smart enough to know how the press work. The “impassioned plea” sound bite came from one person in the meeting who may have issues with Lawwell again you guys know the score.

Jyf to your point of Rangers could have won the league by 14 points. I don’t imagine, and I could be wrong that when you left Ibrox after losing to Hamilton the chat was that you could still win the league by 14 points. In fact, judging by comments on here and the phone ins most admitted the league was gone.

Thirdly you are correct re the Hearts benefactor giving money to help all clubs in Scotland. Allegedly this is a no strings attached offer but if you believe that you will believe anything. Even Rangers could win the league with 8 games to go! Joke!

05 Jun 2020 15:43:08
I can't remember after which game it was when lemon said the league was not over there is still a lot of work to be done but it was not long before the suspension of league games, he didn't even say that its probably over. I would ask the sfa, who's probably going to win the Scottish cup and why are you not awarding the trophy to the team who's probably going to win it, is it because that probably would not be fair?

05 Jun 2020 17:31:37
Come on Jyf you are better than that! You know Neil Lennon could say the league was over as he would get slaughtered! I could counter your argument by stating Steven Gerrard said he thought Rangers best chance of a trophy was the Scottish cup but what’s the point. Mangers have to box clever in what they say. As for the Scottish cup who knows how that one will play out.

As an aside why do you guys always have to say things like Lemon, sugar puff teeth Liewell etc. When I post I never feel the need to do that as always use everyone’s proper name as think it only polite.

05 Jun 2020 18:23:25
Respect is earned mrmo and neither lennon nor lawell have ever earned my respect hence the name calling.
Why you can't grasp the feeling of injustice felt on here as to all that went on culminating on you being given a title is beyond me and how you can think that there was no shenanigans and there shouldn't at least have been an investigation tells me all I need to know about your take on what sporting integrity (remember that) actually is.

05 Jun 2020 19:27:55
Mojo, one of my best mates has been a big Celtic fan for over 50 years including Lisbon 1967. He is raging at the actions of Big Peter, not because he sought to have the title “gifted” as you say, but because this was his objective whilst he was fully aware that the EPL season would be resumed and the title won on the pitch. Liverpool at least have the opportunity to win or lose the EPL. He believes Big Peter has f””””d up big time.

05 Jun 2020 19:54:04
To make my position clear I firmly believe there should have been an investigation to either prove or disprove any underhand dealings however it is clear that Rangers “evidence” just wasn’t compelling enough for the majority. To the second issue of course I wanted the league won on the pitch but so far only 2 teams in Scotland have taken steps to test for C.V. perhaps due to cost so not sure how we could have got football started again. You can’t compare us to England as the money is just not here.

If it had came to it and only Rangers and Celtic could afford the constant testing which can and will be required on an ongoing basis would you want your team to pay it at perhaps the cost of buying a player. We are not just talking about sporting integrity but the health of players and staff and if clubs could not afford it what would the suggestion?

Take a gamble, not test, and hope it is all ok? How would you feel if a player or member of staff died just so we could finish the league without the proper testing in place. I mean even the UK government still haven’t got testing right so what chance have our football authorities got.

{Ed033's Note - Our immune systems are the best test because if we feel ill we stay in.

05 Jun 2020 21:24:04
Mojo, I don’t think your familiar with the economics of testing, particularly since mid/ late April. It is correct that Scotland is couple of weeks behind England in terms of lockdown and easing lockdown, but that just means the SPL could have resumed late June.

05 Jun 2020 23:45:31
Ed033 not trying to be a smart alec but people can be infectious and not be aware or have no symptoms so immune system is not the best test. This is especially true of younger, fitter people e.g football players.

{Ed033's Note - Did you just make that up?. The UK government web site says on March 19 2020, C.V. is no longer considered a high consequence infectious disease.

05 Jun 2020 23:48:46
Banking I respect your opinion however I am well aware of the economics of testing and like I said it is quite telling only 2 clubs have so far made any progress with testing facilities. Time will tell if we managed to get the games up and running and what date they start safely.

All you guys stay safe.

06 Jun 2020 08:46:15
Which brings us neatly back to my original point, why don't we use the Hearts guys money to finish the league instead of using it to "restructure", that way we will know if Hearts deserved to go and if the title and champions league nomination have gone to the right place and remove probably from the equation. Or use the money that we have to repay to Sky!

Once again I'll say to you mrmojo I just cannot see how you fail to acknowledge that with all we have seen with our own eyes and heard with our own ears that doncaster ET AL are, at least, incompetent. We don't need a dossier of evidence it was all out there, they "lost" a vote, a vote that went against their (your) agenda then it resurfaced as a vote that suited their (your) agenda.

He said he couldn't pay the prize money out as a soft loan yet it had been done before failing to recognise that the money already belonged to the clubs not him. The German second division and Danish leagues are up and running neither of them are bigger than the spfl how is that being paid for.

History tells us you were awarded a title* you probably, might of won it won't tell of the few people who try to justify one of the saddest episodes in Scottish football.



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