Rangers Rumours Archive August 06 2013

 

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06 Aug 2013 22:17:56
spotted ryan stevenson at the game tonight possible deal maybe {The Ed039's Note - under contract to hearts so not likely)

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06 Aug 2013 23:09:46
Great first half tonight, when subs went on I feel the game started to fall and Newcastle came into the game more. Good showing from all new players happy with the way they played if they play like that come September then we should walk a lot of things this season, any thoughts from others at the game this evening?

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Haha shot down in flames

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Thought wee clarky, mohsni and peralta all had solid games. There wasn't anyone I would give a fail to. Some of the passing was the best we have seen for over a year, and much more direct and unafraid to take on players. Clear to see we are benefiting from actually talented players now and a good pre-season under their belts. Let's hope it continues like this when they can all play as of 1st sept.

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Have to agree. More than matched Newcastle and would have, in my opinion, been worthy winners if not for stupid mistake at the end. Not a lot of clear chances but good passing and strong defending. Mohsni looked very good and was surprised by how impressive Nicky Clark was. Young boy that came on (no. 14) looked a decent wee player. ERK

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Just need a centre back alongside Moshni and the team will be close on perfect.

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Ryan Stevenson is out for 12 weeks with injury why would we get him?

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06 Aug 2013 16:51:19
mccoll won't be bidding or be part of any bid for rangers. source:tv


Gee

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Now there's a shocker, another in a long line who won't put there money where there mouth is.

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CG called his bluff and he has refused, why is that?

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He is waiting for the club to go into administration again, then he can clean house. Adminustration is a certain as the cash burn rate is too high and there is no money coming in.

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I think everyone needs to sense check where it ever said Mr McColl was buying Rangers? He is part of a group of shareholders who by there number are able to force an EGM where a motion will be tabled to remove/replace the current board at which point a majority decision will be made one way or another. The name on the door (s) will remain the same but at least with some people with integrity and transparency at the top we would then know what is what. All Mr Green has done today is a childish stunt in my opinion. What Mr McColl is about in my opinion is worth far more than his millions at present it is about running the club in the manner and fashion that Rangers and the Rangers family deserve. That said if he comes on board and fancies offloading some of his spare change in Rangers direction then I/m sure that would be nice too!

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To be fair, when and where exactly did McColl ever say that he was going to increase his shares? Pure speculation. He wants Blin and Murray on the board and put his name on the papers for the EGM, buut that doesn't mean he was going to buy Green and co out.

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Dont know why people defend mr green he is clearly milking the club of all cash then going to sell for even more. he's a parasite very bad for rangers

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How can anyone say Green called his bluff. Green asked for £14m for 28% of club, when entire club is valued at £25m, so its him winging it. Did he expect a businessman to pay over double market value - of course not it was he that was bluffing, lol

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06 Aug 2013 22:47:57
Ffs man why do all you people seem to think all these so called rangers men need to be on the board. They want there say but don't want to put any money in. Words, promises, statement after statement it's all we get. Now what we need is for that useless 15 watt bulb John brown to tell us once again that he knows this and he is privy to that. b******* man I apologise John. You really are an inspiration to all low wattage desperate souls

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Why did`nt Walter / Mcoll etc not come in when their club was in most need?
Answer - the price was`nt cheap enough for them.
The whole thing smacks of exploitation, the support are the only ones who really care about Rangers.
The whole thing stinks from the board to the management team & the players who are all on too much money for the level.

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Did Green say where the shares were coming from. Are these new shares and the money goes into the Club - or are these shares held by his investment group and the money goes to them. In my view McColl did the right thing by telling him to stuff it

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Stv has a full interview with cg which shocked me as jim traynor refused point blank to talk to the reporter peter. from what I take out the report he there to sell and will take nothing to do with the football side charles if that was the case then why say things to reporters. he can't even tell the truth who the investors are it confidential so much for transparency as a season ticket holder and a share holder i'm still told nothing. mr green tell us the truth

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I find it very strange that all the Rangers fans are pinning their hopes on Paul Murray and Jim McColl. Murray was at the club the lats time it went into freefall, he then wanted to bring in a rugby man to finance a takeover which would have seen Ibrox being used for rugby and football and now he wants onto the board. the reason. he is a Rangers man. Now, I am sure there are plenty of Rangers men on here who would love a seat on the board without actually investing anything. oh and he also get a salary and all the hospitality going for the pleasure. Now you have McColl who is supposedly the richest Scottish man alive and yet he doesn't want to put any money in. Here is a really weird one, why not buy out Charles Green completely and all his consortium and then you can do what you like. When Rangers were on their knees CG was the only one who actually did anything about it, he also has raised millions of pounds for the club, which is a lot more than any of these others have done. I know he ahs a big mouth and he always seems to be saying the wrong things but he backed it up with money so he is entitled to say what he wants. Actually I agree with him, based on the players he has brought in he should be challenging for at least one of the national cups, forget the Ramsdens that's a joke. You all ha d a chance to have your say when season ticket time came round, that was your bargaining chip but you didn't with hold the money so CG now has a mandate to do what he wants. He is a major shareholder in the club and he can influence a lot of things one way or another and believe me until he gets his money then he will be going nowhere. meanwhile Jim McColl and his "billions" will continue about their day to day business and Murray will keep probing to find a way back in. Rangers men or men who have made a very good living from Rangers. you decide

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Not a rangers fan. or celtic. but why us there a fascination about these so called rangers men, so far non of them so called legends have done you any favors. might be time to create new ones instead of resurrect old ones.

As for signings suffer youth and it will pay off but if the model is to buy, look what happened

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From what I have seen McColl has never said that he won't put money into Rangers. From what I have seen he is saying that he will not line Green's pockets and why should he.

Green is not a Rangers man, yes he has purported to stand up for the Club and the fans but in reality he has done nothing.

If the fans stand firm then Green will struggle to exit with a profit and if the current Managing Director, Mather was to throw his support behind McColl that could be the turning point!

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06 Aug 2013 11:48:05
Rangers Charity Foundation has been found to have breached its duties in assigning cash from a glamour friendly match to the club when it was in administration.

Last March the foundation organised a match between former players of the Ibrox side and AC Milan, the month after administrators were appointed on February 14.

The vast majority of funds £230k were handed to the club (in administration) by the rangers charity directors whom were or had been rangers employees.

Lengthy report on STV online.

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The money was given to Duff and Phelps. The foundation and trustees have been found to have legally breached the charity laws but the charities commission is not going to punish them.

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It stated: "OSCR concludes that since the charity was set up, there has been an inherent conflict of interest present as a result of the charity trustees’ connection to The Rangers Football Club plc.

"Based on the information provided to us, we further consider that the decision-making process in the charity, which allowed a decision to be taken by one trustee to assign the agreement with AC Milan Glorie to The Rangers Football Club plc (in Administration) without consultation with the other charity trustees and without a quorum, was in breach of the charity trustee duties.

"In addition, the conflict of interest presented by the assignation was not managed appropriately and professional advice was not obtained as required by the charity’s trust deed. "

Originally, the friendly tie at Ibrox been organised to raise funds for the Rangers Charity Foundation, which was going to receive 60% of all money gathered by the game on March 30.

The charity, which has donated more than £2.3m to various causes since it was set up in 2002, reduced the amount it would take from the game to ten per cent as well as a £25,000 management fee, meaning the majority of the money raised went to the club that was in administration at the time.

As a result of the agreement, the foundation received £38, 286 as its ten per cent of takings from the game, meaning the club received around £230,000 from the match.

According to the regulator, the three trustees at the time of the incident were either current or former employees of Rangers, while one trustee - who is only identified in the report at 'Trustee C' - decided to make the decision to re-assign the amounts raised to the club.


Twenty five grand management fee!

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Whatever way u look at it, it's a f*cking disgrace and Its shameful.

You wonder what comes next in this satirical shanfest.

This is the kind of thing that can tarnish a clubs reputation for a long time and its a measure of the like who are running Rangers that they have let this happen.


Absolutely raging bear.

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This happened when the club was in administration before Green showed up.

Are sandy and Walter trustees?

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I sincerely hope BDO genuinely look into this figure on the D&P accounts and tell us what the £230k was spent on? I'm presuming it paid the D&P admin fees and they pocketed it. Who sat on the foundation and carved up the 25k?

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Even the charity foundation money got spived away.

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Tustees at the time were listed as Craig Whyte, Martin Bain, John Greig and Jacqueline Gourlay. All of whom have been replaced.

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"The trustees of the Rangers Charity Foundation have noted the findings of OSCR’s report and are pleased that OSCR has concluded that the decision to assign the rights of the fundraising event to the Club was done “in good faith and in the interests of the Charity given the risk that otherwise the event may not have taken place, in which case the Charity would have received no benefit at all” and their investigation is now at an end.

"In the event, the Rangers Charity Foundation received £63, 288 from the events in March 2012. If the events had been cancelled then the Foundation would have lost over £12,000 in pre-paid deposits and our ability to generously support worthy causes up and down the country would have undoubtedly suffered as a result. "

"Whilst it is regrettable that the Foundation was never party to the premise or nature of the original complaints made to OSCR"

just wonder if this complaint was brought by the same mob who went to the advertising standards commision regarding our history

JG

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BBC article said all trustees were current rangers senior employees. Does that mean senior rangers men on salaries took £25k management fee for themselves via the foundation? How could the foundation have only donated £2.3m to causes in 11 years? How much in fees was being creamed off? And by whom?

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Craig Whyte and Martin Bain, two of the most repugnant characters ever to be associated with Rangers FC

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As the money, including management fee had nothing to do therefore with charity, I hope tax was paid on it.

Problem is money was received from contributors (rangers fans) in the belief it was for charity.

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I'm speechless, unbelievable! Reputation in the gutter.

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@JG: does it matter who made the compliant if it highlights what it did? Is it not a good thing that we know that not all the money went to charity and there was a ridiculous 'management fee' paid? Yet again, you look to tar someone else with the failings of your club, which is a sad state of affairs.

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Hi let's clarify this the regulator will be taking no action against the charity because this was done in good faith and not deliberately.

Let's not forget the decision by the regulator.

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The regulator has confirmed statutory laws were indeed broken. So Guilty. But they have decided to not punish. It should never have happened Jake1.

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The board are always saying the finances are healthy then why not give the £200k back to the trust? Spiv City!

Foxy

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Nobody can defend this its a total disgrace shameless mm

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"just wonder if this complaint was brought by the same mob who went to the advertising standards commission regarding our history"

No it was brought by one of the trustee's

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The only redemption is to pay the money in full to the charity and issue a humble apology.
Instead, our CEO tried to deflect the full magnitude of the cash grab with spin

Who wants to be associated with this disgusting scam

Please remember that it was a deliberate scam to take cash from the fans under the pretense of a charitable donation.

Is this what we have become!

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"just wonder if this complaint was brought by the same mob who went to the advertising standards commission regarding our history"
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No it was brought by one of the trustee's
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So what trustee was it that brought the complaint? Back handed compliment here, but well done whoever it was getting this out in the public comain.

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08 Aug 2013 13:48:25
Two points to clarify:
1) They advertised the change in the destination of the funds (for ticket sales) before they went on sale. so fans shouldn't have paid up thinking it was going to charity
2) BUT: the funds were allocated to a company in Administration. so the argument that the charity may have got nothing if the game was cancelled is a red herring. They got nothing (and could never legally get anything) because they allocated the profits to a company who were legally barred from making payments out at that time.
Shameless ignorance at best. Shameless theft of charitable funds at worst.

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06 Aug 2013 10:30:02
neil warnock new rangers manager,

he was over watching rangers under 13s and stating they really good, he was then asked if he has took the job and he never said anything,

source

alan brazil and him on radio

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Great, another Yorkshire Gob5h1te, just what we need.
Thankfully I think this rumour is as reliable as the words that come out of our current Yorkshiremans gob!

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Supposidly a done deal,

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I would take him in a minute we need someone with fight and a true manager not someone who hasn't got a clue like the current one who should never have been given the job anyway

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Changing the manager will make no difference. Look at the big picture! The whole board at the club needs wiped out and started again with credible people. McCoist won the league last year and will win it again at a canter which is the only important thing. Cups mean nothing to me at this point to be honest. As long as we make our way back up the leagues. Another manager will make no difference to a team which has no rangers class player in it except from McCulloch and possibly Wallace. The expectations from most fans are still way off of what we can actually achieve with this group of players. ERK

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To the above poster,
you are deluded mate, cups mean nothing to you?. How about all that extra revenue that comes from cup competitions?, it might mean 'nothing' to you mate but it means a lot to Rangers. Take off the blue tinted glasses mate!, Ally bought a lot of they players you say 'have no class' so the buck stops with him and only him.
pennyboy

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I wouldn't say that McCulloch is a Rangers class player. Maybe three years ago, but not now.

I still believe that a number of the players coming in September are of a decent quality and assuming that they are given correct coaching, (admittedly unlikely under the guidance of McDowall and Durant), then we have every chance of some decent success in the lower leagues but we will not prosper further without a quality manager and for me that rules out both Warnock and McCoist.

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What is Rangers class/
You are living with your head in the sand if you think we are a class team
That was a era that died 1 with the real RFC in 2012
We will never have class players again so keep your old DVD, s

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Check out Warnock's record - it's not too bad considering the promotions he's achieved.

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U don't believe mcculoch is rangers class this is a guy who got us through last season a guy who pledged future to club in turmoil and let's be honest what is rangers class nowadays u are a joke to mame comment like that infact its sort of comment i'd expect green to make personic the guy has been excellent for us before and now

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I listened to same interview poster, your a tim making elements up. 1) he was their so his son could train with under 13s for 2 nights. 2) Was not asked if he wanted job, or had taken it.

Your a joke making blatant lies up

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I have posted before about this old rumour - Warnock is a waste of space - we want to win cups - well his trophy record is 2nd to none - he won The Yorkshire Cup - that's it - Nothing else's - He gas won a few promotions, which is different to winning the actual leauge

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