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03 Oct 2012 20:17:26
The RSA have decided to boycott any away tie in the cup. Good because that will free up tickets for real fans. Not so called fans whose only interest is to get five minutes on the telly or their name in the papers.

The RSA and RST are two of the most inept organisations, not far behind SFA or SPL. Their handling of the whole affair, since Whyte appeared has been disgraceful.

I would remind them that they met with Whyte and declared him to be "impressive". Very good. They then started talks of boycotts at a time when we needed to make friends in SPL. That did our situation no good at all.

They then insist that Green does not increase prices at a time when we need every penny that we could get. We were still in SPL at that time, and I for one would gladly have paid a bit more to help my club.

These two organisations have a sway at Ibrox, and they should not have. They do not represent my views, or other fans that I know. I am led to believe that they have about 1500 members and yet they are the voice of 50,000 plus.
Well they will not speak for me!

I hope they do boycott not only the first away cup tie but every away game. In fact I wish they would disappear altogether. Green should get rid of them immediately because they are a liability to our club.

The fact that we get half the gate money won't have dawned on these people. If we get Celtic away do you still think they will boycott?

 


Its a fair post tbh but reading someone would say your a tic man lol.

RST etc like you rightly point out get there 5min of telly and think there the new be all end all.see when rangers get back into the spl or whatever is maybe called...and if the boycotts start then it will just make the new rangers look daft...

news report...the rangers fans boycotted (ie) motherwell today only 200 fans turned up since the spl chairman held a vote on not to let them back into the spl 2/3 years ago...whos going to look daft ?

*even if rangers got back into the spl that would then mean hearts/hibs/motherwell/etc could do admin etc and get the same treatmeant as rangers and go back into the spl ? and if they never it would be a up roar ! i still believe that the whole situ at the time was a total joke and was always a naw you do it...naw am no doin it he can do it...etc

rules are rules..sets the bar that if your team has to start a fresh then you start from the bottom..

that aside really good post mate

lenny


Each to their own opinion mate, I will attend every game at Ibrox but I won't give any SPL club a penny of my money by attending their ground.


Well said to you, and I hope for you and the fans like you that more will stand up for your club in a positiv way and shed all the hate and bickkering of everyone else is corrupt as you club is so inocent. That way your club can truley move on and maybe start making friends with a fresh beginning of your club, hope it does work out for fans like you and that your club follows you and stop all this kicking us and a witch hunt, wish you well for the true fans of your club.


Where was the trust or the assembly or any supporters associations when our club fell into liquidation?!?


Theres a lot of them.


Celtic fan here. Im friends with lots of boys who support Rangers, some are very close friends and i dont know one who wants to miss games through a boycott so i dont know who these so called supporters are or what theyre agenda is but THE REAL Rangers fans will be going to the games and good for them. That is all.


I am not affiliated to either of these groups. I have supporeted RFC Since I was born. I pay my way and I for one am sick to death pf lining the pockets of other clubs. BOYCOT and hell mend them . I accept our error but why give money to people that wanted us shut down. Lets not kid here. They wanted us shut down. I will buy something out the Rangers shop with the money I wpuld have spent on a ticket.


Lenny op - are you a bear? Anyway no boycott for me too, but if spl,sfa take our titles, surely then it's boycott time?


I know some fans are angry and can see their point i think the team and the manager and some of the younger players need our support more its all about giving the team support lets not get into the politics im not into boycotts and would urge our supporters to back the team in these hard times ahead lets keep stepping up and following on


Make all home cup games free on the season book - then no spl club can benefit from us. As for away games? Totally agree with rhe boycot, most of the playing squad will understand our decision not to assist the clubs who shunned us but still want to benefit from us


Il bet they wont boycott it if we get celtic at parkhead


Totally agree with everything u said mate, they dont speak for the masses at all. I cringe everytime that big fat fxxk mark dingwall gets on a web site..and I told him so one nyt in asda govan...i said to him he should get a job instead of hanging around ibrox waiting for tv cameras and making a fool of himself by talking rubbish that real fans dont agree with..for once he had nothing to say and jus shuffled away like jabba the hut.


Agree 100% with the OP. I'll happily go see my team if they're drawn away from home to any SPL team.


Again the split is not 50/50!! The home team get the first 15% of the gate to cover costs and the rest is then divided. But stay away from SPL grounds (Ross Co, Dundee,new to the SPL and Kilmarnock, who didn't vote against us excepted). It also appears the Dundee Hibs, sorry its United isn't it, are allegedly on rocky finiancial grounds so if drawn to go to Tannadice STAY AWAY, work it up them and hopefuly help make their situation worse!!!!! John F {Ed001's Note - so, knowing how bad it feels for your own club to go into admin, you now want to ensure others do? Do you think that's not just bitter and childish? People need to grow up a bit! It's a damn game, just go and watch it, SUPPORT your team like a fan should. No one else should matter but your own team, unless bitterness and bile is all you have. No wonder the world is in such a state with such bitterness and resentment over a game.}


Boycot for me, they can shove it, payback time


Whatever the rights and wrongs with what happened at Rangers remember the SPL clubs were forthright in their views that they didn't need us. They are intitled to their opinion, its a free world. So they vote Rangers out of the SPL then try to BLACKMAIL both the SFL over TV rights to Rangers games and Rangers themselves trying to strip them of titles (WITH NO RIGHT OF APPEAL BEFORE THEY HAD BEEN FOUND GULITY OF ANYTHING JUST TO GET A LICENCE TO PLAY IN THE SFL!!) Regan, Doncaster are at best INEPT and at worst just plain CORRUPT!!!! Glove puppets of LIEWELL. So stay away from the leeches of the SPL, they didn't need us except our money. Never forget THAT!!! John F


Yes ED knowing how bad it was and watching the other SPL rub salt into our wounds they can now go take a flying F**K to themselves. The sooner the likes of Dundee Hibs (sorry United, crash and the burn the better). John F {Ed001's Note - sad, bitter man. Why can't you be the better man and show that you are only interested in supporting your own team? Rangers need to money, just as much as they do. That should be all that matters.}


Well ed, we must have missed your posts condemning the supporters of the SPL clubs when they railroaded their club chairmans into voting Rangers out of the SPL. As Lord Nimmo Smith pointed out it is still the same club, so I await your condemnation of this illegal cartel known as the SPL for acting Ultra Vires {Ed001's Note - grow up, one day you will realise that 2 wrongs don't make a right. No wonder there is so much bitterness and bigotry with people like you unable to get over anything.}


OK,I'll bite.
What if we draw CFC away and their fans decided to boycott the game.Won't happen of course but what if they did.there would be no one there.both clubs would lose their share of the gate money,circa £500k after VAT & expenses.to CFC that would be money they could afford to lose.To us,however,that would be our biggest pay day of the season gone,and we need the money!.
It won't happen but a wee bit of thought before diving in would not go amiss.


Here's another thought ED, wasn't it the supporters of the other SPL teams that started this talk of boycotts, even threatening to boycott their OWN clubs if they didn't give in to their petty and jealous supporters and vote Rangers out of the Septic Premier League? I've got my season ticket at Ibrox £362 for the Govan Rear so as for the rest of the SPL clubs what goes around comes around. John F {Ed001's Note - so what? You really don't get it do you? Do you want to be just like them? Or do you want to be adult and mature about it and move on with your life? Seems you would all rather froth at the mouth and hold onto bitterness and resentment forever, rather than just getting on with your own life and enjoying it.}


Good post from bear. Let the SPL club's original wannabe boycotters be boycotted!


No Ed ah certainly don't froth at the mouth, far from it!!! I'm nice and relaxed spending my lump sum and drawing my pension aged 50. PS also did my bit for the tv deal, I cancelled my ESPN subscription, thought about the a website one, but with the quality on show from La liga and the EPL that would just be stupid!! No one in their right mind subscribes to a website because they show Scottish Football, from the SPL, SFL thru to the National Team, the product is in the main is sub standard!! John F {Ed001's Note - I agree, but boycotting your own team's matches is hardly going to help them improve the quality on show!}


Ed you forget what the Rangers fans have been subjected to, kicked at every turn by the sfa, the SPL and then the SPL clubs decide to let their supporters decide on how to vote on not only the future of Rangers but the future if Scottish football, bitter....to bloody right we are, don't forget none of this is the Rangers fans fault, these other SPL teams apart from Celtic have enjoyed years of taking money from travelling Rangers fans, they decided they didn't need us so if they go into admin as a result then so be it, don't expect any sympathy from us just as we never got an ounce of it from anybody else. {Ed001's Note - it just becomes a vicious circle until someone breaks it by being the better man and saying 'you know what, yes you didn't help us when we were down, but, knowing how bad it feels when we were down, I won't be sticking the boot in'.}


To op your talking utter rubbish we all should let the boycott stand remembering these teams in the sphell were kicking rangers when they were down and this must never be forgotten w.a.t.p r.t.i.d


"Regan, Doncaster are at best INEPT and at worst just plain CORRUPT!! Glove puppets of LIEWELL. So stay away from the leeches of the SPL, they didn't need us except our money. Never forget THAT!! John F"

Nice, Now its Lowell's fault. Anyone else, Hitler per chance? Nobody mentioning hos the SFA have been at this for years. Doing shady stuff but when its against you its all wrong and you cry and dont attend games. Boo Hoo. Didnt Jim Farry withold a registration for Cadette when he signed for septic? Oh yeah and that was PROVEN. Your Ed is right with a post above. GROW UP AND LET STUFF GO. In fact, sod off them, let the real supporters attend. its getting cold anyway so the fair weather "supporters" like you will start to vanish soon. Spend your giro on washing powder instead.


The fact that we get half the gate money won't have dawned on these people
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above applies to scottish cup only

not sure how it goes for league cup


I can see EDs point about being better than the haters......the thing is, these clubs were shouting from the rooftops about how they dont need Rangers, Our fans or Our money. I fail to see what is childish about letting them have their cake and eat it.
Remember....the corrupt $pl tried to bully the SFL(the ones with integrity in bucket-loads) into taking us in at the 1st division....something no-one wanted.

Its time we stood up for ourselves and told the haters in the $pl they can eff right off. Would any of you readily and happily hand over your hard-earned to someone that has told you that they hate you and would rather you went under, never to reappear......I know I wouldnt, and WONT!!!!!

The sooner the haters in the $pl realise that they have scored a massive own goal with this, the better. It doesn't change the fact that we were ILLEGALLY thrown our of the $pl. It also doesn't change the fact that We can pull in a larger attendance than the rest of the entire Scottish Football card....this is FACT...we have already done this and will continue to do so without the help of the corrupt ones!!!


All is ok troops. We are home to Caley thistle. Full hoose please. This is the 4th ex RFC manager we have played against. Cant wait to hear the Sceptic stories.


You can not hurt scottish football without hurting rangers,and you can not hurt rangers without hurting scottish football,there is no winners, old bob.


Letting a debt free Rangers back into the top flight would have been a major black mark against Scottish football, nobody 'kicked' Rangers when they were down. If 'The Rangers' had been allowed in it would have been with heavy sanctions that THEIR FANS couldn't/wouldn't tolerate. So I don't where this 'kicking us whilst we're down' nonsense is coming from......


There has been a lot of talk about taking your medicine recently, and I fear it will get worse before it gets better for us Gers. But can all these other clubs honestly expect to come out of this unscathed? They have shown no desire to help restore the very hand that feeds them, but yet they want hard earned money from the Rangers support! These clubs do need to remember the positive qualities that we bring to the table, not just our failings.


The bottom line is the clubs all need each other to work together if things are going to improve. Boycotts dont favour anyone as it will eventually turn round and bite you in the backside. Just turn up and support the team no matter who we play. I know some bears are still angry about our treatment, but its a self defeating attitude. Let's move on - keep our heads high and look forward to the future. Big Baz


Surely supporting Rangers is more important than feeble vengence against the SPL muppets? The players and club need our support at ALL games - that is a bigger factor in the return to our rightful place back at the top than bitter 'payback'. Do you think Jig would boycott the match? He won't. Pete.


Surely you need to boycott any home game against an SPL side also then, seeing as the gate money gets halved...duh


"The sooner the haters in the $pl realise that they have scored a massive own goal with this, the better. It doesn't change the fact that we were ILLEGALLY thrown our of the $pl."

And how was it illegal? How were you thrown out? Your club wasn't in the SPL to be thrown out, remember. The ignorance and bitterness on this thread is astounding. Making others suffer is more important than supporting your own team?! That is a ridiculous and utterly twisted notion. You might as well just walk away from it all now before you become as bitter and twisted as your bilious outpourings.


It's time for the rest of Scottish football to quit being two faced. We are far from out of the woods, & still facing the mess that others left. Rangers are only in a position to help those clubs who are willing to drop the axe so we can put our house back in order, were no looking for favours! So many people ripped into Rangers supporters for not taking action, despite tens of thousands of supporters keeping this club alive! That's doesn't come cheap! People are feeling pushed to boycott. "Everybody" has to back off!


For all the Sceptic mob who are more interested in RFC than there own clubs good achievments in europe. Please explain to me WHY the on going tide of support for a boycot of Killie. Historical dislike is uttee rubbish. Can we please have a constructive reply ? .


Great I may get a chance for an away game ticket, support 0ur team home or away remember we get 40% of the gate money my love for the Gers is far greater than any petty war with away teams Or SPL
Get a life


Its time some rangers and celtic fans stopped talking about this boycott rubbish ffs grow up GET BEHIND THE TEAM


All is ok troops. We are home to Caley thistle. Full hoose please. This is the 4th ex RFC manager we have played against. Cant wait to hear the Sceptic stories.


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Surely this away game boycott against SPL teams suggestion is completely stupid while still wanting a "full hoose" for home games! The SPL opponents in both cases get 40% of the gate money so it would hurt them a lot more to boycott SPL opponents games at Ibrox. Confused Supporter.


""The sooner the haters in the $pl realise that they have scored a massive own goal with this, the better. It doesn't change the fact that we were ILLEGALLY thrown our of the $pl."

And how was it illegal? How were you thrown out? Your club wasn't in the SPL to be thrown out, remember. The ignorance and bitterness on this thread is astounding. Making others suffer is more important than supporting your own team?! That is a ridiculous and utterly twisted notion. You might as well just walk away from it all now before you become as bitter and twisted as your bilious outpourings."

Have you read the quotes from Lord Nimmo Smith? Did you see what he said??
His findings were Rangers are STILL the same CLUB, it was the HOLDING COMPANY that went into administration. He said the spl share still belonged to THE CLUB resulting in the club STILL BEING A MEMBER OF THE spl, ergo We were ILLEGALY REMOVED from the spl setup.
Perhaps you should do a little research before you come on here bumping your gums about "ridiculous and utterly twisted notions" and slabbering your own "twisted, bilious outpourings".

As Charles Green said last night....it is time now to start rebuilding Scottish Football, NOT continuing to kick Rangers as they are getting back to their feet. Inflammatory posts like yours only make my fellow fans and myself wish a slow and painful demise to your clubs......the same as you have all wished for us(but didnt get.....HAH!).

The ignorance and bitterness on this thread from non-Rangers fans is astounding. Why dont you all bog off to your own forums and leave us to discuss what we know and love....The Worlds Most Successful Club, Glasgow Rangers!!


"Making others suffer is more important than supporting your own team?! That is a ridiculous and utterly twisted notion. You might as well just walk away from it all now before you become as bitter and twisted as your bilious outpourings."

Really. I seem to remember a large number of fans refusing to buy tickets from their own clubs, if they voted to let Rangers in the SPL.

A smacking of double standard methinks.

TRD


Thats it boycott this boycott that does it matter Charlie is going to leggit with all the cash, he is and always be a con man, we are lining his pockets and we'll take the fall again. Something no smell right as Mr Shyte has been to quiet as well things are not adding up with the full situation.


Nimmo-Smith did not say that - Green twisted it and claimed that was what he said. You've been duped by Glinty lol


"Have you read the quotes from Lord Nimmo Smith? Did you see what he said?
His findings were Rangers are STILL the same CLUB, it was the HOLDING COMPANY that went into administration. He said the spl share still belonged to THE CLUB resulting in the club STILL BEING A MEMBER OF THE spl, ergo We were ILLEGALY REMOVED from the spl setup.
Perhaps you should do a little research before you come on here bumping your gums about "ridiculous and utterly twisted notions" and slabbering your own "twisted, bilious outpourings".

OK Gonk. please point us in the direction of a direct quote? A hyperlink will do.

I was under the impression The Rangers were not thrown out of SPL, merely DENIED admission by votes. I was under the impression that was because any new club must be voted into top tier if they dont want to start at the bottom. I was under the impression that this is why TRFC is now in SFL as they were denied entry.

Someone has surely got to tell the truth here? or is denial into the league not as argumentative as "being thrown out".


No one likes us, we don't care.
what happened to the traditions of being a rangers, some people need to have a look at themselves.

go to the away games, let them have our money (and we can take our cut!).
we'll win the game and progress, and soon we will win the spl once more! how much would anyone pay for that and won't it be so much sweeter knowing all they put us through and tried to finish us but couldn't do it. we will show our true colours by being dignified but more importantly by doing our talking on the park with the support of thousands of bears home and away!

let your dundee uniteds etc do what they want, it will wind them up so much more that we rebuild and come back stronger. I'd rather hump them all having given them our money than giving them the excuse of admin!


Re the muppet making stuff about finding Nimmo. Read this:
"To take the hypothetical example of a club which has been engaged in match-fixing in the last game of the season but is then relegated and consequently ceases to be a member of the SPL, there is every reason why it should still be liable to disciplinary action at the instance of the SPL - whether or not the breach comes to light before or after that club has relinquished its SPL membership.

"We can think of many similar hypothetical examples.

"Oldco appears to us to be in no different a position."


EXPLICIT mentioning of "OLDCO". DEFINATE proof that NEWCO/Sevco (as known at the time) were not chucked out the leage, not voted in. MASSIVE difference. Can you see it now, is that clear enough.


A very simple thing is the rangers have never played an spl game, if they havent played at that level how can they be thrown out from that level. Cant u guys get it your club went bust. The only real point worth arguing over is the history, does the history continue or did it end, to be honest i have no idea if the history is continued or not. But to me personaly history is something u create or remember not something to be sold like shares. The other thing is the history(again only in my opinion) has been tainted by the 95 million pound debt. Its all very well to boast about titles but i dont hear people boasting about the amount of debt or the amount of people screwed by it. So another question is do u really want that history because even though it has a glorious start and a glorious middle the horrible mess at the end is nothing to be proud off. Is it not better to start afresh valuing the same principles but being a new entity creating new history. I am a celtic fan if u hadnt guessed but i dont hate rangers and i look forward to the the return of celtic vs rangers games.


"EXPLICIT mentioning of "OLDCO". DEFINATE proof that NEWCO/Sevco (as known at the time) were not chucked out the leage, not voted in. MASSIVE difference. Can you see it now, is that clear enough."


Sigh................right, ok....this will definitely be the last time I try to explain something so simple to people that appear to be even simpler!!

The CLUB never went bust.....the HOLDING COMPANY went bust.

Do you people understand this? Am I making myself perfectly clear to you??

The CLUB plays the football...the HOLDING COMPANY owns the club and does the day to day BUSINESS side.

The CLUBS spl share was still the CLUBS...NOT the HOLDING COMPANYS.

Its time that people stopped listening to 'what ifs' and 'mibbies this happened' and started to only deal in FACTS.

Fact......the CLUB never went bust!

Fact....the HOLDING COMPANY went bust!

Fact....TRFC are the NEW HOLDING COMPANY!

Fact...Rangers are STILL the same CLUB as the one that was formed in 1872.

If anyone has any problems regarding these simple FACTS.....please, dont bother asking stupid 'what ifs' and 'ma das pals, uncles brother in laws dug said '......look for the FACTS...ignore the bullsh!t the media have spun, they are only interested in selling papers....NOT the facts!!

Please.......engage brain and THINK before you reply to this post with whatever you THINK is fact, because its most probably NOT FACT but simple FICTION you have dreamed up in your wee pea heids!!!


Does anybody know whats happening with the strip deal charles green was on about with addidas


 

 

 
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