Rangers Rumours Archive May 02 2012

02 May 2012 22:34:52
Can Miller's bid be considered seriously. It is conditional with no further sanctions. That's quite clearly unrealistic. I think that's why Kennedy and Murray are sticking to their guns. How can D&P award this to Miller with that proviso?

Dont know how far back you can look at posts, but i told all to get to bookies and bet on miller being preferred bidder about 5 weeks ago when he was outsider, nothing changed BK seem to think words we all want to hear is enough but unfortunately it does not work like that

"Can Miller's bid be considered seriously"

Yes it can. Not all done yet, SFA&SPL talking to both parties now(?). Depends on whether SFAPL happy for RFC to disappear, maybe not quite suicide, but it may take a good few years for scottish football to recover, if indeed it ever fully could.

Time is running out, expect some movement from both sides in last minute barter.

;)

Both bids are b/s its allover

Miller will be preferred bidder because he has more to invest in the club over next 3 years. He said this in his statement last week.
Where is blue knights money going to come from long term ? a shares issue then what ? that is what concerns the administrators

"Where is blue knights money going to come from long term ? a shares issue then what ? that is what concerns the administrators"

Administrators don't give a damn about long term, just what cash can be realised as quickly as possible for the creditors. They are not there to make business decisions about the long term future and financial health of Rangers.

Simple he threatens to take Rangers into 3rd division killing SKY deal stone dead which in turn kills sponsorships eventually kills clubs not one provincial cub could survive without their sponsers and the SFA know this they also know as the SPL is a seperate entity and as such any club has the right not to join and could remain in the SFL for as long as they wished

Lol, the sky deal is worth nothing and a few hundred fans a week through the gates would pay for it.

I think if we get any more threats from rangers the rules should be changed to make any newco wait 10 years before being allowed into the spl.

I'm pretty sure there were sponsers before Sky. The SPL could adapt without the Sky deal, it's not as much as everyone thinks.

Spl will not die just because rangers are not in it and that's as simple as it gets. Sure there will be less money, but clubs sooner or later are going to have to start loving within there means anyway due to these new fair play rules coming into play so they will either make profit someway or break even simples. Rangers are not the backbone to Scottish football

DIE - maybe a strong word & to the person who says SKY isn't worth much - think you've been up there with Lucy & the Diamonds too long!!
(ask your dad he'll explain!)

but surely no-one disputes - the quality of player coming to this league would be lower, therefore week to week quality getting worse - European qualification & co-efficients would become even harder if they are not already biased towards 'bigger' leagues & that would eventually lead to any decnt playesrs heading south, even more so than now. And the Scottish team tumbling down the rankings.

think a bit bigger & long term - you know its true

bill72

02 May 2012 21:49:07
Both Brian Kennedy and Paul Murray in attendance at tonight's fine win against the Arabs at Ibrox.

Where was bill millar?

Why are people clicking unbelievable!!!!! it was shown on the screens at the game and then again on Sky both Kennedy and Murray sitting next to each other at the game tonight.

Its easy when theres no pressure to win a game , did the bears bottle it a celtic? looks like ........

Did they buy anything?

Nothing against BK & PM, but they have been prone to a bit of publicity seeking - this one on the back of the 'where's Bill Millar?' campaign
does anyone really believe this guy is going to invest in excess of 11 squillion and not know what he's buying into?
remember the bunnet never showed up until almost the last gasp of Celtic - i believe if Mr Millar get preferred bidder status - whatever the finaloutcome - he will then show face to the adoring Scottish press and thousands of tax experts.

bill72

02 May 2012 19:04:55
lookin like miller from this angle...well that takes care of that then...by by teddy bears as we know them...newco does sfa for me if you pardon the pun....just a wee tidbit of info but i was 8 when this team were winning everything domestically
ritchie-shearer-caldow-grieg-mckinnon-baxter-henderson-mcmillan-miller -brand-wilson...............deecee

Again, yes, we get it... You won't support a newco. Now please stop posting it!

As a Celtic fan this is the only Rangers team I can rhyme off.from memory. I too was 8/9 yrs old during their heyday in the early sixties; a great side; we always struggled against them, level playing field as well. All Scottish also; will we ever see their likes again?

Newco does nothing for me either mate. History is what makes Rangers special.

You lucky man, i am behind you in regard to watching our team live but i grew up as a youngster knowing this team were special , my dad told me so. deecee i hurt like you but i have sold our team to my family, cousins, nephews, nieces children , grandchildren. for 38 years all family involved with me were presented with Rangers strips on the lovely arrival of a new family member. deecee we owe it to the youngsters around us to continue as before . We hurt why hurt the kids, we can take the hurt bring it on , the kids are our future we must protect them. The children of Rangers must flourish within family until they can enjoy being a Ranger
nobody should deny them that, cmon deecee and all others who have lost faith do it for the kids, without our guidance they will never experience the things we all have let them be Rangers like us, we will be back and our kids will enjoy with us

Highland Bear

Well i was 13 going on 14 but you missed out roger hynd number 9 we got the best team in the land hes put the frighteners into anybody what i didnt like about him he barred my minister from training with motherwell when he moved there doug

He won't follow a NEWCO.....until they win a trophy i suspect!

Ughmm..ill say it as many times as i want pal...free speech etc.....you go your way i go mine.......someone is going to make a piss load of money here and meanwhile we get a get out of jail free...sorry but i got scruples.....so on yir bike...deecee

Not sure about the sentiments of the poster. However, this was the team I saw when my dad started taking me to ibrox. Still think Alex Scott was the best right winger though, instead of Henderson .

Tell you what...to all the ultra loyal fans out there...ill go with the loyalty thing but if i hear the sash or the billyboys or watp chants or pope songs then that will be the straw that broke the camels back..deecee

So now you will support a NEWCO? make yer mind up pal...
As long as there's a team playing at ibrox called Rangers i will be there!

Fellow bears, don't be afraid of a 'new' rangers. we are all rangers supporters for a reason......we are LOYAL. I am saddened that the club in its current form will most likely close. my dad first took me to Ibrox in 1989, Ive been there through thick and thin and in thirty years from now I'll be going to the games with my children because 'rangers' is our lives. whether that is 'rangers', 'Glasgow Rangers' or Rangers 2012 we'll be there because 'rangers' is in my blood. its not the fault of the fans that our club has been ripped apart by faceless businessman but for the millions of us we will always follow on. OK, there might be an enforced name change but get a grip guys, they'll always be a gers cause the millions of loyal fans are going nowhere. let's create our own history, we still have Ibrox, we still have the memories. the name might go but the traditions and the songs/banter will NEVER die. Sorry Celtic, but we are here to stay. DC

DeeCee, sorry to admit that i've been following this site from a voyerism point of view due to your current problems, however I have been taught a lesson from reading posts from fans like you. That lesson is Dundee Utd, Hearts, Hibs, Rangers, Aberdeen, St Mirren, Celtic......Etc All have decent passionate fans that love their teams. WE are what makes Scottish football........Even if we where going to lose Forfar or East Fife we should be standing together and trying to help the teams survive.

Yes alex scott was 1st choice for scotland but couldnt get into gers first team for willie henderson doug

"my dad first took me to Ibrox in 1989, Ive been there through thick and thin"

thin? you don't know the meaning of the word if you've only been going since 89

When the big hoose closes will the newco gers move intae ah wee'ir hoose or opt fur ah private let wi Clyde fae Cumbernauld? jist asking yi ken :0)

I couldnt care less what is sung as long as it encourages the team and the same goes for what the celtic fans sing doesnt bother me and never has , all this dont do this and dont do that has knocked a lot of atmosphere out of the game your scared to open your mouth nowadays and give some free speech then find out theres a law that youve supposedly offended someone next thing this mob that are running the country will be bringing back the lochgelly ( which is the belt ) doug

"i was 8 when this team were winning everything domestically".
Glory days indeed, I have no doubt that you will once again be able to witness such days again soon.
This is an important time in our history, but our history WILL continue and like the phoenix our club will rise again, Bigger, better and stronger within the stadium and within the support.
In the future our fellow supporters will look back at this time and say "this is were all the great times started",
BELIEVE.

02 May 2012 17:19:18

BILL MILLER is on the brink of pushing through his takeover of Rangers after Brian Kennedy and Paul Murray refused to copy the American's newco plan.
The ravaged club's administrators urged Kennedy to adopt Miller's hybrid blueprint which will see the 140-year-old club reborn and possibly banned from Europe for its first three years.
But, during late night talks in Manchester on Monday night, Kennedy made it clear neither he nor Murray would be prepared to sanction such a strategy.
And now Miller looks set to be handed the keys to Ibrox as soon as he comes up with the £500,000 exclusivity fee required to secure preferred bidder status.

Under insolvency administration law, the Administrator cannot take 'history' into consideration. Only primarily the Creditors and a far second... The ability to keep the company trading.

This is in DR.
But some inaccuracies.
3 years ban is correct for Europe, even for CVA.
TBK were bidding with Millers plan to Newco, they said so in press.... But D&P couldn't accept their ridiculous bid which couldn't deliver a CVA for Creditors.

So this is their final drop out reason? Don't want to Newco?
Ok put up the same money and exit admin through CVA boys !
It's all about money up front, not excuses about your principles, if u have any!

Miller has just refused to wire the 500K until he gets proof he will get it back if the bears dont like him. what a shambles
You are not coming back

If he is the only bidder why does he have to put up �500000 to get exclusive rights? Should they not pay him to encourage him not to drop out?

The hokey cokey man kennedy at the game tonight maybe he is putting in tenth bid

The truth is that nobody is on the brink of anything just yet. But that won't sell newspapers.

It does not matter a jot, until CW's shares are in the possession of whoever, its all smoke and mirrors

Preferred bidder status doesn't mean he definitely becomes the owner, just gives him exclusivity to do further checks and decide if he wants to do the deal.

The �500K is a show stopper. I'm not surprised that bidders have refused to put up the cash. I think that D&P will have to consider bids anyway, even without the �500K if they are doing their job right.

Maybe D&P need the 500k to get to the end of the season?

They'll have 'put by' the 2 million they'll be taking in fees.

Under insolvency administration law, the Administrator cannot take 'history' into consideration. Only primarily the Creditors and a far second... The ability to keep the company trading. you forgot to say in liquadation only secured creditors matter with HMRC and TICKETUS a very distant second

02 May 2012 13:12:07
I have a mate that works in marketing for umbro. I asked him why Rangers dont have the 5 stars above the badge on the new strip. He said this was because when they go newco they will not be allowed to wear the stars. And it would cost a lot to change the strips and re-distribute to all the stores etc that sell them. He has no reason to lie to me he is a charlton fan and doesnt know much about Rangers in general. This frightens me as it seems set that we will be newco without a doubt

Yes it has the 5 stars on it go to jjb sports on the new strip and you can clearly see the stars under the tailored by umbro writing

Why so much lies. as the stars are placed on the back of the neck.

Have they not said the five stars are on the shoulder?

You do realise the stars are elsewhere on the new strip?

How can you possibly say they're not allowed to wear the stars? They can put whatever they want on their shirt within reason.

They can decide to change the colour of it if they so wish.

BigBear1873

Rubbish - the five stars are on the side of the strip...................

Realy? because the stars are on the strip, there on the arm,

Aye right ya are , your "mate" nos the future of RFC does he ? A marketer nos this kind of information ? Do me a favour man.....
PaulRFC

Wake up mate, the 5 stars are on the side of the strip under the arm, this is because the srtip was to look as close to the 72 strip. even tennents had to agree.

The stars ARE on the strip. They are down the side rather than above the badge. Nothing to do with a newco or not. I doubt Umbro would know anything more about Rangers financial situation than anyone else would.

People have known since early Monday that it was going to be Miller. The decision to liquidate was also taken.
It's liquidate and a NewCo.
The only possible solution to this mess. Whytes shares will become worthless, but any owner wishing to own and liquidate needs them. Unless D&P liquidate and sell assets to new guy.

The stars are on the neck
the stars are on the shoulder
the stars are on the side
the stars are on the arm

Sounds like there are some dodgy copies about

Lol.its a copy of the kit the the cup winners cup team of 72.the stars are on the side,not taken off all together.ask him if theres anything coincidental about the release date of the kit? cool story all the same bro.
drumlad

I dont know if i really believe the original poster but been told in the work european honours stars should always be above the badge. anyone else heard this???

The new strips sold via JJB are for Rangers FC that exists today.
A Newco will have their own strips unless a deal is struck by the Newco to use this strip.

The stars for european/league honours have to be applied for from uefa and are above or around your badge,
Our 5 stars where above our badge as a mark of our honour of our unsurpassable 50 league honours. Unfortunately it looks to me like they are at the side as an "incase" so that we can keep the kit next season as a newco. Its like a "this is our history we will remember it" sor of thing.

Our club is proud of the stars, why make them tiny on the arm after applying to have them on the badge??

BluePeter

Why not put a star on for every �10M wil owe, we'd look like the most successful club in Europe then.

Sorry but that's allot of crap. For a start, the entire rfc badge would need to be altered in some form or another if the company ceases to exist (which a newco would be a new company) so the badge itself would need to look different - not the same ie with stars or without.

Just checked on JJB site, no stars visible (ANYWHERE) on the new strip! ? the poster original could be onto something.

The starts are spinning round my head right now! LB

Sorry to say m8 that's just nonsense , 5 stars are on the shirt as pointed out by umbro ... Even if we are a newco Leeds and Plymouth have kept there club badges and never had to change ... We'll still be Rangers football club regardless of newco or CVA ... The airport bear

Lol, the stars are just part of the design, 5 stars just made up - there are no rules, look at Munich - 4 stars, RFC are 1 star better. Even funnier is Aberdeen's 2 stars - people in Europe must think they have won 2 European Cups / Champions Leagues. Only in Scotland

Well if we put 5 Os on the jerseys we could get money off audi for advertising doug

One star for every �10m owed... Excellent idea... 13 stars... Unlucky for some.

Stars outside of UEFA honours really is tacky. Especially if you've never won the European cup or champions league or world cup for National teams.

Rangers are out of Europe for a minimum 3 years. Go read Alex Thomson on channel4 website.

Its a retro strip in 72 was there 5 stars do ur homework

Leeds have changed badge, check it out. A new company cannot use the previous company's logo, it would need altered in some form or another

5 stars still don't equal 1 European Cup, which unlike several of your league titles was won honestly

You'll get to keep your 5 stars at Ibrox, they'll be on the new 5 star hotel there building on the site.

I am pretty sure when the stars around/above the badge first came onto to the scene it was in recognition for a team winning 10 league titles i.e 10 league titles = 1 star? I may be wrong. It wasn't until recently that teams began using one large gold start in recognition of winning the European trophy.

TTG

Here is the description of the new strip on the website below:

Designed to keep Ally McCoist's men cool and comfortable on the pitch, this official replica shirt combines the latest sports performance fabric, with a classic retro look to echo legends of the past. 40 Years Later - The Spirit Lives On!

Ribbed crew neck
Short sleeves with dual layer cuffs
Lightweight and breathable performance fabric
Oversized RFC crest embroidered to left chest
Sponsor logo printed below crest
Umbro Diamond logo embroidered to right chest
'1972' stitching to inside collar
Five stars stitched to rear left hem


Note the last line of text, your mate obviously doesn't work for umbro.

Try telling Milan juve and inter their stars are tacky. Don't think it involves UEFA. Like I say clubs and national sides been doin this for donkeys years

Tell the k##b above audi only has 4 os lol

Its 1972 copy for barca bears .didnt have stars then.

The STARS are on the left shoulder in dark blue stitching and very small. A bit hidden if u ask me! Why not the classic silver stars? Why on the shoulder and not above the new badge? I don't think u need to be Albert Einstein to figure out why mates

I doubt Audi would pay anything for having 5 Os as it's one too many for them.

Lol,

I am pretty sure when the stars around/above the badge first came onto to the scene it was in recognition for a team winning 10 league titles i.e 10 league titles = 1 star? I may be wrong. It wasn't until recently that teams began using one large gold start in recognition of winning the European trophy.

lucky they chose silver first and left gold for European champions, usual nonsense.

Go to UEFA Site , new rule for 2012/13 where only clubs with European cups can add starts above the logo. Bit like when Celtic had to start wearing numbers on their backs.. NewCo would also mean new Logo...its another way to get the fans to dig deep...and deep and deep...
no Europe means Fans cash required...

Stars are on the top back when we won the cup winners cup we didnt have they stars its suppose to be an anniversary top ie no stars but they are on the side where its says tailored by umbro pal so your mates a liar lol prob a tim too

The stars are there, just not in the same place. On the seam near the hem

Why are we having a debate about 5 stars on the badge if we cant sort this mess out the players and staff maybe collecting them working in mcdonalds bobby

Not trying to wind folk up but didnt celtic change there name when they were about to go bust and fergus mccann bought them, therefore the club we now know as celtic fc have no european honours if u wanted to get technical!! correct me if im wrong. {Ed001's Note - you are wrong.}

02 May 2012 12:49:57
Genuine question;Paul Murray is quite obviously a rangers fan.He also wants to keep rangers intact in their present form,but clearly has a budget to work within.He seems to have the backing of a large percentage of fans.So why on earth has he not galvanised rangers supporters,organised meetings and,more importantly,started down the road to a share issue?He seems to have been dancing round the fringes of this mess forever.With his backers surely he could have underwritten an issue big enough to stop the admin process as they all appear to be respectable,honest businessmen. Or is he and his backers just another bunch of suits who want to gain control on the cheap,then get fans to fund everything else? Nearly twelve weeks! Think about it...........green jhedi

He does not own the football club what makes you think he would be able to legally raise a share issue .

RS

It's like this pay over the odds just now or get preffered bidder option and liquidate ... Simples ! The airport bear

More Trolling green jhedi. As you know, plan is to sort out current "In Administration" situation, then fund the business moving forward with a share issue to fans (might go for a �1000's worth myself).

"galvanised rangers supporters, organised meetings and, more importantly, started down the road to a share issue?

Administrators, Creditors are unimpressed with "fan" meetings, they can only deal in cash, not strong feelings.

You can't organise a share issue for a club you don't own yet! In any event, more money going in would only go to creditors at the moment. There is a time for this and it is post CVA, with the debts out the way.

Thanks anyway green jhedi, your contribution as always, a waste of time.

He heard about a rumour involving HMRC and thought it was wise to wait and see if it was true.

Anorak.

He has suggested the BK would underwrite a �50 million share issue. Problem is they need to be the owners of Rangers and out of administration before they can do that because currently trading in Rangers hares is suspended. IMO he does have Rangers best interest at heart, think about his proposal last year. A �25 million share issue which would all be spent on the players/stadium etc. Leaving us in �14m of debt which is not too severe, fast forward a year and with that squad investment we may have made the CL which gives the club A�15m which could almost have paid off the debt, no admin, and just the minuscule matter of the tax case to come. Hope you spot the joke there.

GovanFR

Dont think he really had the money in the first place, remember were dealing with the Scottish media doing the reporting, so who do we believe. Dont think anyone as really said we've got x amount of money, this could be jumping from the pot into the pan case.

Das Shadow

Why on earth hasn't bill miller bothered his backside to get on his private jet and come over to ibrox to discuss matters, and get to know more about the club. something stinks about not just bill miller but everything going on a ibrox. our club is going out of business and as a fan i feel helpless!

Do they trade Rangers rabbits as well as Rangers hares?

My point was;not a share issue using rangers shares,but something similar to the fighting fund.Then when control of the club is achieved transfer the money people gave to shares.As for the trolling berk,try and think outside the box!.......green jhedi

Ah right Jhedi, I though you meant a proper share issue. The only problem with your idea is that plenty people will be reluctant to give them money now encase they don't gain control of the club, there would need to be some sort of guarantee given to everyone who donates.

GovanFR

TBK,s can not take over the club as a going concern without the 85% shareholding of CW,no CVA without shares.

Well he may be a fan but he is not a lunatic.

The bottom line is the bk with fans backing think they can get club for less than anyone else, believe me Kennedy is not in it for his love of Rangers, but for some reason everbody seems carried away by the true blue scenario, money talks and they seem unwilling to put it where there mouths are.

02 May 2012 12:37:35
No Offence to the Blue Knights but Bill Miller can 'F' Off as well, WE NEED JIM MCCOLL!!

Jim McColl - Please save us. You are the man to save us!

I work for clyde union pumps, formerly weirs pumps, Jim McColl left us in abwt �30M debt when we were bought by SPX, dnt think I want him to buy rangers personaly

Jim mccoll ? is the beechgrove garden not big enough for him ?? dd

He sold the thing for �750m, the �30m, if true, was certainly thought to be serviceable by the new owners.

Sounds like a line from Star Wars:

'Help me, Obi Jim McColl-i, you're my only hope.'

1903

We could also try and live within our means.An alien concept to a lot of bears,I know.Get a good solid board who can rebuild from scratch(It'll take time)rather than crying out for millionaires to bankroll us.If we can get back on an even keel,and it's now almost certainly going to be as a Newco,then,even with gates of 30,000,we should be able to compete.
The problem I see right now is whether old or newco,where is the cash coming from to pay running costs over the close season.We can't sell season tickets until we know where we're playing.If we carry on as an oldco then ticketus will insist their deal stands.Ibrox needs upgrading,players wages,contracts etc,where is the cash coming from.Whoever comes in better have deep pockets.

Your right,billionaire McColl just standing by and watching us die.so called GERS fan..,DONT THINK SO!
WATP

Presumably bill mccoll made his money from smart investment & managent of his capital, wonder why he's not tempted?!

Maybe he can send you some orange lillies from the beech grove garden for the funeral

Jim in currently in Aberdeen tending the Beechgrove Garden so probably has no time for running a footy club.

How to become a millionaire: First become a billionaire, then buy a football club!

Last post about how to become a miilionaire is pure class.............

Perhaps football isn't that important to him. Or its just a really bad time to get involved. Or just not a wise investment. Just cos he's got plenty don't mean he's got to waste it

02 May 2012 11:53:29
Blue Knights told by admins a CVA is not deliverable & still cannot provide Craig Whyte’s majority shareholding.

Source: Herald

If CW is unwilling to deliver his shares and the offer is unacceptable then the consortium have not agreed the original deal with Ticketus.

Anorak.

But Anorak you told us in very definite terms that the deal was done! Has Brian Kennedy been winding you up?

If only the Blue Knights were willing to negotiate with CW maybe their bid wouldnt be in such bad CONDITION.

Mac

Well that's two out of two conditions not met. Hope TBK have more tricks up their sleeve.

Total soap opera im brassed off

02 May 2012 11:57:04
Would it be possible for the Rangers supporters to unite( I mean really unite) and seek legal advice on the possibility of sueing CW for his misuse of their money, the ticketus deal!, another thought on the same subject, the ticketus deal was arranged and put into place long before it was actually signed ,which leads me to believe that a certain Mr Ellis not only brought wee s**tey to the table but perhaps also gave him the information he required to buy the club without spending a penny, what else would he have been promised 20 odd percent of the shares for?Ed could you give me your thoughts on this. {Ed022's Note - The issue is mate, Rangers fan's can't do much at the moment. The fans aren't united at all, they're in disarray which to me is baffling. But more than anything, Murray was the one who put Rangers where they are today, Whyte is unfortunately just getting the crap from it.}

Sue him for what? The money from Ticketus was for ADVANCE sales of season tickets. D&P have withheld the sale of season tickets so far, therefore the deal is unfulfilled and part of the admin as debt. ticketus have yet to receive any money on the deal brokered and hence the are out of pocket.. CW knew what he was doing when he stitched them up. 

Sorry no case to answer!Whyte had money in the bank before ticketus deal so try ripping up the deal and see what happens!Scotlawthoughts.Nxt fairy story

I agree totally about SDM being fully responsabe for this mess but do you think it would be possible to go after Whyte just on this specific point, and why are the Gers fans in such disarray, what is stopping them from getting together to save the club

"Murray was the one who put Rangers where they are today, Whyte is unfortunately just getting the crap from it."
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That's nonsense ED, While SDM was in charge PAYE and NI were paid. That is the reason we are in administration (presently). Yes there is a big decision to come regarding the BTC.

If SDM was still in charge we would be �18M in debt, we are �50M, a debt racked up in 9months by CW.

Not defending SDM, but think you need to examine the reason we are currently in Admin. {Ed022's Note - I have no response to this at all. You think if SDM was still in charge you'd be �32 million up than from Whyte? I'm not defending Whyte's actions, but for you to say that SDM treated the club better and ran it better, you're clearly having a bloody giggle. Murray ran your club into the ground, realised what he'd done, then bolted and left Whyte to try and save a sinking ship - now when I use the illustration of a sinking ship, I'm not talking a little hole in the side of the ship which is flooding the boat, I'm talking a whole side of the ship missing and falling into the abyss with very minimal hope.}

I thought that Whyte's proof of funding was the cheque held by Mr withey? and was not in any way real proof of anything, is he not being chased up by the courts over this very point?

Sue him for the debt that is now a RANGERS debt and was brokered by himself to enable him to buy the club through the payment of the $18 million bank debt

If and thats a big If, the BTC goes against you,  will you hold SDM in the same light or will you lump him in with CW. CW played a blinder when be took over. So did SDM. CW got shares for nothing, banking on the BTC going against the Club. His non payment of tax last year would have been  buried in the debt of that mess. He must be kicking himself that HMRC have held out so long as he was banking on a buy out much sooner. SDM got shot of the club and his liabilities in full knowledge that the club was sunk and CW was the scapegoat willing to be part of his plan, knowing or unknowing. They are both to blame but at the same time, both to gain. You the fans are the ones who have been left out to dry. That is the shocker. 

There is no doubt that both Murray & Whyte are equally culpable. Murray's running of the club was nothing short of scandalous and to then give away the club to Whyte without doing any kind of checking was disgraceful. Murray handed over the Rangers to Whyte as casually as if he were buying a tin of beans from the supermarket. Wyhte has run the club appallingly for 9 months and his non payment of PAYE and VAT is shocking. He and Murray should both face criminal charges for this but are both likely to get off scot free and worse still make a profit. While the Rangers fans suffer months of uncertainty and possibly years in the soccer wilderness.

They are both equally guilty of leaving my club in the mess it's in now, perhaps for very different reasons, I believe SDM was on an EGO trip , nothing to do with improving the club but strictly personal, CW as you say knowingly or otherwise put the boot in at the end but they are both guilty of killing at least the reputation of the club, and we should be looking at different legal means of punishing them, perhaps making public all the wheelings and dealings of both these"gentlemen"whenever we can do this legally, and as for the real rangers men on the old board I wouldn't trust them anymore than I would trust CW