Rangers Rumours Archive September 27 2012

27 Sep 2012 20:17:30
Sandaza out for rest of year.

Rubbish.... just seen him in mcdonalds eating burger and fries, absolute tosh. why does timmy keep making this nonsense up... watp

27 Sep 2012 21:25:05
He is out for the rest of the year with a fractured cheekbone. So this is not a celtic fan at the wind up.

Rangers expect to be without Francisco Sandaza for the rest of the year after he sustained a broken cheekbone during the club's League Cup win over Motherwell.

The Spanish striker was taken off following a first half collision with opposition defender Shaun Hutchinson, initially playing on before being forced out of the action.

Sandaza underwent an operation on Thursday and, although Rangers expect his initial recovery period to last eight weeks, the club have said they expect to be without the former St Johnstone man until the turn of the year.

Oh dear Timmy is never believed, it's like that time we told them the tax man was going to close them down and they didn't believe us until a picture of him was published in The Sun! It's also like that time we told them they'd be liquidated. Now when're telling them titles will be stripped!!

Injury forcing mccoists hand to play youth and it paying off , lucky but happy either way sandancer has been a mistake... george

Oh no, how will 'the Rangers' make up for the two goals he would have scored in that time? Answers on a postcard...

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Your no a real fan if you base your conclusion on big fran being a bad signing from the games hes played. Was just starting to get match fit and this injury messed things up. I've said on here before, we have a completely new team who needs to gel. As soon as we realise we cant lump the ball in the air to fran he'll come good. Looking at his stats, and what i've seen of him in scottish football, he doesnt score or win much in the air. Most of his goals have come from beating the offside trap with a pass on the deck.

Sandaza has been rubbish looks yards too slow - miss him - yer joking

To say "your not a real fan" just because you have a different opinion is a load of keich. So anyone that does not agree with you isn't a real fan. It's single minded people like you that are the problem but that's only MY opinion.

Could go back to his other job as the wedding singer.

27 Sep 2012 19:28:13
Rangers have huge plans in coming months, many of which are dependant on results of EBT. If Rangers are found not guilty by taxman of missusing EBT's scheme, Rangers newco will purchase oldco and pay tax bill of £20 million. Now here's a shock, if so David Murray will put a few million into helping paying the £20 million as he is deeply hurt by fact Rangers fans do not like him anymore, though he understands their feelings as well. Club also plan to have between £50-100 million invested in hotel and leisure facilities at ibrox. This will be mainly funded by external investors and companies. Rangers are also going to open 20 plus club shops worldwide within next 2 years. Things are looking up, and well done boys for last night - I was very proud of you.

This is quite simply not true at all.
Hmrc were owed �24.5m including agreed small tax case.
There were 276 creditors in total owed �60m plus �80m possible for big tax case. Ticketus are also a creditor for �22.5m.
I don't believe DMs businesses nor bankers will allow him to put a nickel into Rangers. He played a blinder offloading �140m debt crippled football club for �1. After he had withdrawn millions from it for over 20 years, at least �6m of which was tax free.

Oldco cannot now be purchased. It had its one chance of CVA and failed. It's well down the liquidation path beyond the point of no return.

27 Sep 2012 21:56:33
If you are going to post such drivel at least have the guts to put a name to it......Stevie

And where is Murray going to get the money for that? The is 100s of millions in debt!!
He needs dollars, dollars is what he needs lol

Rangers will be lucky to still be playing next season.Over a decade of ineligible players,if proven,playing domestic and european games can only have one logical outcome.Suspension/Expulsion from the game.
The Dual Contract investigation and/or the FTT result could kill RFC stone dead.Contrary to opinion on here,they're 2 seperate things,one totally unreliant on the other.
SDM promised the earth then sold out to Craig Whyte.The fans lapped it up.
Craig whyte promised the earth,the fans lapped it up.
Whilst all this was going on,other sources were telling of our financial problems.Rubbish said the fans.WATP.
Craig Whyte put the club into administration.Along came CG,an asset stripper with over 20 dissolved companies in his portfolio.Hurrah said the fans.
20 investors-still don't know who they are.
�30m in the bank by July.no there isn't.
5 players from the Euros-where
9 on loan from Newcastle-Ditto
WE've no debt-Share issue needed to pay debts(CGs words,not mine)
In the past week we've had Adidas,Dallas Cowboys,Chuck Blazer,etc.Have any of these people even said they've met CG.
Now they're going to pay tax bills and invest �50m.b****cks.
Cg has come to make money,and the future of the club is secondary to this.I fear we'll find out sooner,rather than later,this is the case.
And for what it's worth,anyone who thinks we'll win the FTT or the dual contract investigation,is seriously deluded.There's plenty of evidence out there,if you can be bothered to look.
AND I'M A RANGERS SUPPORTER!

I heard the same thing too. Only difference is that the Easter bunny was putting up �100 million, Santa was gonna be the manager of one of the new shops, or was it the hotel, and spiderman and superman were going to dig the foundations cos this sort of opportunity only happens once in a super heroes life. Seriously I cant believe that you would even entertain such bollix never mind spend time typing about it!

Be thankful you still have a club to support and start living in the real world. You are a division 3 minnow who will never see a reminder of a successful past to anywhere near the same level.

Not scared just fact.

Jim Dhoc

28 Sep 2012 00:16:07
I AM A RANGERS FAN, one of the most realistic posts i've read on here well done........Stevie

Mate altough some of that was a bit harsh and maybe unfair. Someone needed to give the OP and the 20 odd agree's a wake up call. FFS Oldco back from the dead...Its embarrassing. Hotels, Dallas cowboys, Leisure facilities, 20 new club shops. COME ON EH. Go and have a word with yourselfs.

We are in division 3 and lucky to still have a club to support after the greedy, arrogant narcissistic, persons who gambled with the future of our club by running up crippling debts, using questionable payment methods to bring in star players to massage they're ego's and basically lying theyre arses off to us all along.

Enough of the verbal diarrhoea, lets just hope when this mouthpiece Green jumps ship we are still in one piece and that a TRUE Rangers man or even a TRULY honest man is left with the keys to Ibrox.

Lets get one thing straight. The guy above who is talking so negatively about rangers and the fans AND THEN feels hechas to stress the fact he is a rangers supporter....he IS NOT A RANGERS SUPPORTER. IT DOESNT MATTER HOW HARD U TRY U CANT HIDE IT BUDDY! WATP. STEWART.

No more of this please. Lets get back on our feet and rebuild. As for the massive posting from the alleged Rangers fan. I can assure you RFC are in stable ground as regards to finance and will be here a lot longer than 99% of other Scottish teams. And probably the Stupid Football Ass. They keep blowing money on how to make Football better .

Read this if you think there is any way back for Rangers.
I got banned from followfollow for posting this, people need to open their eyes before its too late again.
FFS even bomber knows there is some real dodgy goings on but he seems powerless to do anything about it.
Please read carefully.........
Assume that both Sevco5088 and Sevco Scotland are owned by a parent company called Sevco plc. which is registered offshore (perhaps in the BVI where Liberty Capital is registered)

Sevco as parent co of Sevco5088 is also legally entitled to buy RFC (IA) assets for �5.5m.
This seems a bargain price particularly since it will be reduced by �2.75m if players refuse to be transferred for a fee.
Since this happened in practice the real purchase price was probably around �2.75m.

Sevco plc. was able to acquire these assets for a bargain �2.75m because it accepted responsibility for a Ticketus contract and 3 floating charge debts owed to RFCG, Close Leasing and the Scottish Sports Council.

So

D&P are instructed that everything bought from RFC (IA) by Sevco 5088 is to be transferred from RFC (IA) to Sevco plc.
This allows Sevco5088 to drop out of the picture altogether.
We thus move from a scenario where RFC (IA) assets are being sold to a UK Co (Sevco5088) to one where RFC (IA) assets are being sold to an offshore co Sevco plc
Sevco plc then transfers the Sottish Sports Council floating charge plus Ibrox and MP to its subsidiary co Sevco Scotland.
This means Sevco Scotland owes its parent co big bucks for these valuable assets.

Sevco plc. retains the Ticketus contract together with the RFCG and Close Leasing floating charges over Ibrox and MP.
As an offshore co Sevco plc. Is not obliged to register the RFCG and Close Leasing floating charges at Companies House.
By taking on these floating charges Sevco plc. have to pay Whyte �27.5m (or whatever lower figure they agree) to cancel the Floating Charge.
Similarly , Sevco plc. have to pay Close Leasing to cancel their Floating Charge.

We thus end up with the following situation.

Sevco Scotland owe their parent co for the value of the assets transferred (perhaps the �50m recently quoted by a Sevco Scotland Director)
Sevco plc. owe CW some agreed figure to cancel out his floating charge
Sevco plc. owe Ticketus the right to sell �27m of STs over the next few years
A share issue takes place which enables Sevco Scotland to reduce its debt to parent co Sevco plc.
Sevco plc. Then pay off Close Leasing and RFCG with some of the fund raising proceeds
Ticketus get a staged payment on their �27m debt as their share of the fund raising

Everybody lives happily ever after,

Apart from TRFC the football club� which is stuck with debt owed to its parent co Sevco plc. and a Ticketus deal that will last for years.

Plus of course
Any fans who think that by investing in the fundraising they will be getting better quality players on the park

Your whole thing started off with "assume" so I stopped reading as you are talking tosh!!

Http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/190703-rangers-appoint-finance-firm-to-oversee-share-issue-in-october/

the above statement from CG clearly mentions debts. remove your head from the sand. i dont know how we still have debt but in my gut we are running so close to the bone it scares me! i dont believe this "investor" patter or any other garbage he spouts. one thing ive learned in the last 2 years is whatever the man at the top says believe the opposite

I smell sh1te ! SDM is into the Lloyds Banking group and others for HUNDREDS of millions of pounds, he couldn't care less about fans liking him, would all fans wake up and realise the reality of the situation. Are we really ready to fall for the same re-development, hotels etc p1sh that Murray used to spout ?

Even without the big tax case rfc (awaiting liquidation) were in debt of �51.6 m according to D+P

I've got to admit where the hell is craig whyte? After what he's done, he's just vanished like a phantom! No media investigation nothing. Very shady! No government body has ever confirmed that he's totally out of the picture, it really is a game of trust. After what we've been through, its not a good foundation for a share issue? Green talks a good talk, and he has delivered, for he which deserves credit. BUT there IS a lack of transparency, big time! I can only think that IF it's that bad, Bomber brown would have found a way to warn us, surely? The suits have burned us, we must be vigilant!

27 Sep 2012 14:41:50
October 4th @ 13:30. The next
round draw....

27 Sep 2012 17:37:48
Why hit unbelieve? is it coz you dont understand the 24h clock? doh!

Oh no ur u daft mate, a clock only hus 12 numbers on it, back tae school for you lol.

Coz its the fourth round draw or even the quarter finals but its certainly not the next round draw....totally unbelievable