Rangers Rumours Archive August 26 2011

 

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26 Aug 2011 21:01:27
hi its me mark hateley my son tom will be signing a five year deal at rangers tomorow

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All i can say is lol

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Hi,its ally mccoist naw yer no.

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Cant be I'm mark hately, or is it spartacus well it's one of them.

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That is just cringe worthy " hi, its me mark hately " haha mega bulls**t

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Wudny mind. cos edu is pants. tried to give him a chance but the lasy year. SH*TE.

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I posted earlier on this evening. My post was about putting last night behind us and looking to the future, getting behind the team and the management. The Ed felt my post was irrelevant and decided it wasn't worthy of posting But he feels that absolute bulls**t like this is worthy of a post. This site is becoming a joke. Its obviously being designed to get hits, therefore money from sponsors, rather than be a serious football rumour site {Ed003's Note -This site is about football,your post which was not posted obviously contained something not allowed or full of bad language,if not I apologise, I can't recall it. The above post should probably have been put on Banter,but Hey Ho! you never know with rumours}

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Ah ah ah ha that is pure class that. Brilliant.
Cheers for the info mark tely.

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Cant believe people clicked 'agree' ha

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Thats actually brilliant, well played mate

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AHHHHAHA aw mate that was defos the best thing ive seen on this site by far i couldnt stop laughing.....HAHA

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Hi my name is pinocchio and im a real boy

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Hi its craig whyte here and this isnt happening,the social knocked me back for a crisis loan.

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Get stripped big man yer playin at the weekendLOL

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26 Aug 2011 20:41:53
Le Mans midfielder Marcelo Estigarribia has undergone a medical with Serie A side Juventus.

The Le Mans midfielder is believed to have passed medicals with two other clubs, one of which is thought to be fellow Serie A side Lecce, after arriving in Italy on Wednesday.

However, the Paraguay international, who has also attracted interest from Rangers following his impressive displays in the Copa America this summer, has set his heart on a move to Turn.

Estigarribia has spent the last 18 months on loan at Newell's Old Boys after out-growing Le Mans, who were relegated from Ligue 1 in 2010.

The French club have negotiated a 5million deal with Juventus, but the player may initially move on loan.

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Cammy1250

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So what's your point?

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Sounds like we've missed out on on hell of a player there.

What would you rather have, a £5 million rated Argentinian who is good enough to play for Juventus
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A washed up 29 year old Spaniard rated at £500k who is good enough to play for a Spanish second division team

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We were linked with him early on in answer to first reply, and totally agree with second reply, ortiz isnt good enough for us

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Whose the £5m rated Argentinian? Cause Estagarribia is Paraguayan

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26 Aug 2011 20:27:37
we need to sign players that can hold the ball how many times did we lose the ball last night that definetly cost us the match and the first leg and the malmo matches before that to people who tend to lose the ball the most is ortis and edu i dont no why they play them when we could have wylde out left and ness or hutton and with new players coming in midfield that could help so does anybody have any good ideas on players who ca keep the ball well?

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Wyldes crosses, apart from a few, hit the first man. Dont make out hes our saviour mate. The whole team, bar mcgregor, perry, n big laff (only cause of fitness) failed last ngt. Would have put goian in with that bunch too but he stepped out for their goal n couldnt take the baw off a guy half his size.

Tbh, maybe ness could have improved things but i dont think hutton would have done any better than edu/davis. Ortiz played the only def splitting pass of the night, and looked for the runner on the outside when he held the baw up, but both of these tasks involved broadfoot.

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Davis keeps the ball well. All we need is a right winger and a striker so ness/hutton can play through the middle with davis and that would give us the option of Naismith who can also play in the middle, right wing or striker. The fact is we're only 2 or 3 decent signings from having a half decent squad. The players you mentioned... Edu and Ortiz among others are what is making our team poor. Edu was totally unopposed in the middle of the park last nyt and his first touch bounced about 10+ feet from him. It's was more like a really bad back pass. That's not even near good enough quality at any kind of level mate.

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Prob is diddy european teams come to ibrox n gers sit off them n let them dictate the play. maribor are at best on par wi methilhill strollers. we make them look like barca.

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Davis bottled a chance that in my eyes edu would have smashed goalwards. Might not have scored but would have at least tried.

Lets not be blind here mate, davis went missing when we needed him last night. That is not the action of any captain, let alone a rangers one. He is by far a better player than edu, but at least edu didnt hide in our own half til it was too late.

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Sign up ma dug Shug. Cannae get a baw aff him without losing a hand

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Some good points but all im sayin when i said wylde out left i didnt mean he was are savouir like you said but just our best option at this time wallace is not a strong a player than he is in defence papac to slow for midfield he can if he wants but takes his time gettin back plus he's ill so who could we play on the left?

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Diouf diouf diouf diouf diouf sign him he can keep the ball amongst other things

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To the guy talking about Davis hiding. I agree that drifts in and out of games but when he's in he's great. I agree he's not a leader but that's not his fault he's been handed the armband... Is he going to tell the manager to chase himself? The fact is with that person in the middle beside him he's trying to be the engine of the team himself. Edu hides for ninety minutes He has no urgency chasing the bounce of the ball or the man in possession, even if he catches his man his tackling is crap. He has no ball retention and zero composure. You mention him getting forward but does he look for the ball and get into space? He floats around clueless hoping the ball won't come his way How good would any player be with no faith in his co-pilots?

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To the guy above. I dont know what game u watched the other night mate but to say davis was our 'engine room' is silly. He hide, plain n simple. Lost the ball quite a lot (prob as much as edu) and his through balls were pish. U say edu was headless but the guy got into positions that davis SHOULD be getting into in their box. Edu has scored many important goals doing this compared to davis so u cant say he doesnt make the right runs or doesnt get into space. Also, if i remember, he almost scored a screamer last week. When was the last time davis tried this? Im not sayin he should turn round either n say 'im no captain material' but look, i wouldnt consider myself as capt material but if u gave me the armband at rangers id have been bollockin every player on the park n got the heads up. The guys a bluenose, he should know this.

U say how good would any player be with no faith in their co-pilots. Well, how good would any player be when their captain goes hiding?

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Yes we need players who are comfortable on the ball ,mobile,good vision and range of passing,ability to run at defences and willing to get a shot away sadly not many if any of our players have these attributes

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26 Aug 2011 20:14:39
Edu once again proved he's not good enough to play for the Gers, Ortiz has just arrived and i don't see him playing much. Let's go for Erimenko, a player who was up there for player of the year, knows scottish football and would support Davis in the middle of the park. The season hasn't finished it's only just starting. WATP

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Mate, lets face who ever ally has lined up to sign he is going to be mince EVEN eremenko our team is slow, slack, old and cant realy play its now like zombies fc the whey they are now

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Agree with you - it was my post earlier on as we are crying out for a creative midfielder and i suggested Erimenko. We are just lacking a few players and with Bedoya & McKay coming in Erimenko could complement them as well as Davies. WATP

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...After having been ejected from europe we will have no more money to spend this season...what we have is what we will be playing this season with..and for me we have more than enough to win the title again this season...

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Let's not forget we will have McKay & Bedoya available tomorrow & next week (both).
McKay looks great from watching the Wales game a couple of weeks ago.

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26 Aug 2011 20:13:42
CamErin Jerome was meaning him because he's a high quality of player and not too expensive I knew it was highly unlikely. I'd still like Jamie Murphy or ALF. Murphy cheap, talented, bluenose, fast, creative, versatile and can score goals. I think ALF would score goals for fun for Rangers the 24 chances we created last night needed a Le Fondre to tap it in. Also I can spell well the predictive text Is annoying lol

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26 Aug 2011 19:44:09
we are at the start of a new rangers era here
there have been big changes and with more still to come its a new rangers that will be nothing like the old rangers

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Lets hope the doom n gloom mob gives them a chance

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IN ALLY WE TRUST (sorry for shouting ED) lol

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The old regime was a great one, nine in a row. European cup final. I'm not optimistic about Mr Whyte, its not doom and gloom it is realism and it doesn't mean I won't continue to support the team no matter what.

GovanFR

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Give it time and rember we are top of the league and thats what realy maters

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When I was wee, maybe about the age of 5, I was at a local pub team match, my brother and a group of his mates said to me, "who do you support wee man"? Leeds? Rangers? They asked.

Knowing that my brother supported Leeds-I said "Rangers". When I got home that day I went to the magazine rack and pulled out a wee programme and began to learn the player's names, De Boer, Mols, Lovenkrands to name a few.

That is the day I became a Rangers supporter-I will remember that day for the rest of my life, I will be loyal to Rangers for the rest of my life.

I don't care who the manager is, who the owner is or what competition we are or arent in- I will FOLLOW FOLLOW, Rangers til i die.

So yous can all think about whether or not you really are a true supporter before you start postin all yer doom and despair crap about the team.

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26 Aug 2011 19:31:17
Just think if we'd signed good players when we could (ie when in champs lge) rather than crap that we have signed (ie Ortiz) we would be in the champions league where we should be and would have won the spl. Now the only players we can attract are truly awful bargain basement crap.
Times are the worst I can remember people (even worse than le guen) and I cant see it getting any better any time soon.

How depressing can it get because we all know that Maribor are crap so that makes us worse than crap which is just unthinkable for a huge club like ours.

Sad times

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You obviously werent around in the early 80`s

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Worse than PLG shut up , were doing ok in the league , get a grip

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We are top of the league pal, we were nae where near the top of league with him in charge. i take it u were one of the guys who wrote ally off again and again when he was playin. he'll shut u lot up again 4iar

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If I remember rightly we've already won the league the last 3 years and are sitting top if the league just now. What planet you on.

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Spot on totally agree get ally oot

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It is nowhere near as bad as PLG, we haven't conceded a goal in three away games and are top of the league.

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Think your right (ie correct)

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To the first post: no I wasn't I assume it was bad

To 4th post: the planet I'm on has just seen rangers go out to Maribor with a shocking performance.

Btw I'm not calling for ally's head yet I just think needs to get help with this shambles of a team he's running.

Yes we are top of the league but have we performed well enough yet? No

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U have 2 give ortiz a chance hes just got here from another country

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The seasons only a month or so old. and so is the whole new setup at rangers. from boardroom level down to the players. please guys get a grip

we are rangers supporters.
sounds like some of you havent a clue what that means

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26 Aug 2011 19:19:10
Let's move on from last night and get behind our team. We are crying out for a creative midfielder and I think Alexei Eremenko could do a job for us. He is good on the ball and great from set pieces. We lack invention from any set piece as shown last night. Talk was he is available for as little as £400k as Metalist want to offload him. He proved he can handle the rough and tumble of our league and was nominated for players player of the year. Worth a punt?

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I didn't agree at the start of the season as I thought we could attract a better calibre of player due ti being in Europe and whytes promised money but I now realise he would be a decent addition to the squad

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Matt mckay is a creative midfielder

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This guy should have been signed long ago

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I agree he's exactly what we need. How are we expected to be positive and get goals when our best centre mid (Davis) is being played out of position and we have two defensive centre mids (mcculloch and edu) who can't play a killer pass or make forward runs. Why when we've got promising youngsters (Ness, Hutton,) who play well when played in their natural positions get dropped for "big games" then play players just because they cost a bit of cash? What was the point of Murray Park when we don't trust the kids to do us a job when they show promise? McCoist don't try and play it safe (lack of imagination) with the "tried and tested players" lol have some faith in the kids.

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Those that dont learn from the past tend to repeat it so no moving on till ally learn,s from this what have WE to learn

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26 Aug 2011 19:18:11
Why is everyone saying that jelavic will leave. We don't have to sell him and he may not be happy but just cos we r out of europe and have had a few bad games doesn't mean he will want to leave. Its utter nonsense.

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Why the hell should we care if he,s happy or not, its a team game and he bloody missed his fair share over the games in europe, its not all about scoring goals in the spl

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He will be like the rest of the foreigners that come to Gers want to play a season then ticket to the prem.

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Don,t think there will be a big rush after last nights performance, he,s had too much s**t to say in the paper but he should look at himself, he and the rest of the team let Ally and us fans down

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Bulls**t jelavic will leave in the january window for the premiership, i dont think it would have mattered if we where in europe or not he was always going to move then just for the money its just what i think. J

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Got to look at it. jelavic was part of the team that lost. he has to take sum of the blame. nobody would buy him on last nights performance.

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Omg, just looking at these comments make me cringe. Jela aint going anywhere this season. Just wait and see how many of use eat ur words at the end of the season when he has scored 25+ goals and helped us to 4 in a row. God sake get a grip eh

J J

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I think jelavic will leave next season for england heres 1 for u garry o conner if he stays out of trouble this year thats y he only signed a 1yr deal at hibs

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Big jela is gonnae be here for next season champions league,only way is a team from England who is also in champions league...

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Right at this moment in time he looks too
ordinary who would want to sign him now no team from the EPL would shell out the kind of money we,ve been talking about.

grizzliebear.

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If you read the papers today its not just big jel that may be sold, i will back everyone at ibrox but they have too be honest with the fans...Q do we have money to spend? {Ed025's Note - thats a..NO!..

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26 Aug 2011 19:12:13
why was ortiz signed in front of conway?

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Wages pure and simple , the money on offer down south is far in excess what can be offered up here mores the pity .

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Cause conway picked cardiff instead of us same as goodwillie picked the epl

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Never our fault is it?

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Conway took a look round ibrox an decided he wanted to go south or did u miss that in the summer moron

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1st £8000 or £14000 what would you take he also has a season ticket for them

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Conway never took a look around ibrox his statement was that he was not staying in the spl cause he wanted a new chalange so we never spoke to him so u can't say wages.sorry spell check it should say sp hell not spl lol

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26 Aug 2011 19:09:19
Im here laughing once again someone saying earlier we need a striker ..cameron jerome is for sale 3.5 million should do it ..go and get him
dont be so stupid we will find a good 500k striker eventually people are saying whytes got no money
wrong hes minted the reason there are people like whyte with loads of money sonny is
they dont give it away lesson learned.

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But at the same time mate theres extremes... you HAVE to speculate to accumulate

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I remember a goalie East Fife had on their books in the sixties name of george Yardley he was a good keeper.He also played centre forward and yep he was a prolific goal scorer too . I remember jock stein playing big ron yeats at centre forward in a world cup qualifier against Italy preposterous we all said .All Im saying is that somewhere round about Ibrox there has to be a young man with a fire in his belly who wants to be a jim forrest or a colin stein a player of that ilk anyway compared to those guys super ally wasnt so super and yes the game has changed but the desire has,nt.

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26 Aug 2011 18:52:35
cant see anymore players coming in i think they will say we have enough good players to win SPL ..last night was a shambles ..bigt

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Your right bigt, no one will want to come so why not have a change of direction for the club?

Rather than chase players and offer them 10-15k a week why don't we look at putting some money into decent coaching at the club and get some ex players who have done it to pass on their experience/knowledge to the current crop of players.

Who is currently coaching the players and what are they being taught? Last night we were playing long balls into the box from the 55th minute, surely this is not the way to go.

How about we approach players like Numan, De Boer twins, Laudrup etc (Gazza could arrange the fishing trips) as these players have played at the top level in different countries and must have vast knowledge of the game. Boys like Hutton, Wylde, Perry etc would surely take on board whats being said to them if it was coming from one of them.

Also what about Ray Wilkins? He may have a good contract with Sky but surely he could work on a part-time basis at Murray Park. Look at who he has worked with, Mourinho, Scolari, Ancellotti & others so what could he give to the club?

I think at a low point for the club, and Scottish football, then we must have a look at where we are going because if this continues it will be a long time before we see a Champions League ball being kicked at Ibrox.

The Pilot

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Need a striker as laffalot only plays well last 10 games

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Totally agree, you saved me posting the same thing, still think we can win the league though so lets get behind Ally & the team bears

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Scottish coaches have a lot to answer for over the years.
If anyone goes to watch the pro youth leagues it is simply laughable.
As usual Scot`s kids are taught how to build the play from defence to midfield.
After that the coaches dont have a scooby do?
Reason being the flare that is needed in the final 3rd has already been coached out of the lads when they were younger.
It is time the whole coaching system & the jobs for the boys culture was downed in Scotland for the sake of our kidsd future`s.

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26 Aug 2011 18:43:03
the fact of the matter is mccoist has bought crap he should of bought goodwillie or miller no matter what this is a le guen happening all over again i said at the start of the season id give mccoist till christmas and its happening.rangers with no euro football is devastating no one will want to come now

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Goodwillie was never coming to Rangers. He has already said that. But yeah no European football is devastating to us and the country.

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I got the feeling ally was lost and had no idea how to change things Healy should have been on at half time

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Tell you what re the Le Guen statement. This guy was actually ahead of his time and was trying to change the culture, mindset; diet; trainbing and coaching, etc at Rangers. He was right to have sussed Boyd (lazy), Ferguson (arrogant & over-rated) and others who weren't into his thinking. He also was the one who played Charlie Adam as a young lad - clearly spotted something that fans didn;t. Also he took in Papac - still there doing a solkid job for us. So where is Adam now? What's he worth? See how his attitude helped hoim knuckle down like a real pro. Where's Boyd? Rangers still need to grasp this nettle - play and coach young lads plus bring in young but lesser known foreign talent to blend. Most important of all though - have tactical nous; coaching methods and standards in place. I love McCoist the player and guy, but doubt his managerial and tactical ability. If he can;t larn at the side of Smith he will never have it. (Same applies to Lennon as well but that's not the point).

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26 Aug 2011 18:38:01
Jelavic not happy, jelavic disappointed last few games. Open your eyes fellow bears Jelavic is having a stinker of a season so far.
and had been pish in euroupe
Whyte won't spend a penny until after we r put into administration. Ally is a puppet like alan shearer. Was for mike ashly

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26 Aug 2011 18:28:19
i would rather rangers build a good team this year than play s..t in europe and maybe then be prepared for a proper crack next year

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Probably the most adult and sensible positive comment ive heard on here yet... hear, hear brother
4 in a row, and a good run at europe next year (with mr mccoist)

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What a lot of rubbish, so u watched that game last night and thought i dont want europe?

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Exactly my thoughts, I want to concentrate on getting 4 in a row personally.

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26 Aug 2011 18:20:32
Can everyone lay off Ortiz please? The guy is only 5 minutes in the door and obviously needs time to settle. He reminds me of Thomas Buffel who was a class act but not physical enough for Rangers. Give the guy a chance and judge the team at the end of the season.

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Aye but being new doesn't make up for being crap does it?

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Language barrier, cultural barrier, footballing differences, new arrival. These are the reasons why he's not gelled into the squad just yet. He will, i hear he was a solid player for almeria so i am not bothered. The guy looks a bit anxious to impress and tries too hard i think. Once he settles down he will come good i can guarentee it. But i honestly hope to god the fans don't start jeering him like they do with edu or hes a lost cause.

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Totally agree and for the person with the 2st comment shut up , give him time

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They will, they done it with Hutton (and then denied ever booing him when he re-gained his form). Same with Lovenkrands. Some people don't understand what 'support' means.

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U dont get time at gers, u can be 10 points behind in league be4 u know it, just ask PLG and mogga

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We should never single out players for booing as hard as it may be. Our best players were guilty of wasting golden opportunities last night. Edu's confidence is gone true but he has done us a turn in the past and I'm sure juanma will get the chance to make up for his early shortcomings soon enough.

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Needs time to settle? His discipline and on field behaviour was atrocious, absolutely embarassing at how bad his tackling was and this is AFTER a few weeks and games with us. So, no.

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Go and support the other mob then pal we don't want guys like you following the Rangers WATP

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26 Aug 2011 18:19:07
How dare we have the cheek to snub Weiss when on last nights performance he is twice the player every one of the barring maybe goian.

We need to get our fingers out now or forever be lost in football history.

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Totally agree a player that can give as abit of magic surely with good coaching could of made him a star and sold him for profit

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we never snubbed him we can't afford him bottom line were skint so get over it

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The fact we were going to pay 2.5m for Verhoek, 3.5m for Juhasz, 2m for Cuellar etc says otherwise. It's not a question of wether the money is available, it's a question of are they willing to spend it, particularly now that we are out of Europe.

Personally I think Whyte is being cagey about giving McCoist too much incase he doesn't work out (unproven) given that he didn't choose McCoist as his manager but was really given no choice.

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26 Aug 2011 17:52:49
Roque Santa Cruz off to Real Betis, not Glasgow

Source, Sky Sports News

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Good I didn't want him for Rangers and didn't want him to play with Smelltic against Rangers lol. We do need a striker though, Ivan Trickovski possibly?

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And you actually thought he would be coming to Glasgow?

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26 Aug 2011 17:24:38
Rangers need another striker and edu,broadfoot and ortiz surely cant start against aberdeen.
To be fair to healy he lacks match practice - game time to date 23 mins this season.
Who will start against aberdeen
Mcgregor.mcmillan,goian,perry,bocanegra,naismith,davis,mcculloch,bedoya,jelavic.lafferty.

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Macmillan was injured last night so I'd rule him out

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Weres Wylde in this team

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I think we'll be seeing alot of wylde this season now we've got him on a big contract and don't have to worry about him performing too well and being snapped up by an english club. Healey is another james beattie. Its disappointing to admit but its true. He's only there as back up for the back ups.

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Healy will do well if given games, as coisty said he is the best finisher in the club but is rusty and needing to play to get the sharpness. Broadfoot actually played well last night and tries his best every week even though it might not be the best we have but its all we can do coz of injuries

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Tbh am no a broadfoot fan but he was one of our better players on thursday. Ortiz needs time but ur right about edu he is a disgrace. The guys at 5-a-sides are miles better :L

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26 Aug 2011 17:20:50
Is it just me or is jelavic getting off lightly here i thought he was terrible last night. Is it ok for broadfoot and edu to get pelters even though broadfoot actually played well and jelevic gets nothing sais about him he wasnt interested last night. rab

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Completly agree mate was posted missing for large parts of the game, his movement was non existent at times. I thought he looked lost without naisy there

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Are you off your rocker? Jelavic was one of the best players on the park last night. Broadfoot was garbage. Edu was mediocre. But, for real. Get Broadfoot out of that squad. He's a diddy.

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Edu could nutmeg Leo messi, and fans would still call him a diddy, Broadfoot could make a perfect tackle on C.Ronaldo and still fans would want rid of him, them 2 are made scape goats to cover everyone else.

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Jelavic has mist so may chances in europe and a very poor game last night

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Was thinking that myself,he was poor against Malmo aswell these are the games you prove yourself and get found out in,its all very well scoring in the spl but Europe is diffrent he had chances and couldn't take them.

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Thing 2nd poster forgets is that Jelavic cost 4m, Thats a lot of money i don't think he played as well as he should, Imo Wylde was our best player going forward, Great game for Perry and Goian though

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No because Jelavic is consistent...Edu has been poor for 2 seasons

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He,s been pish like the rest of the bloody team in europe, you can,t say he,s been brilliant when he,s missed the chances he has. I agree its easy to blame broadfoot and edu but Jela, Davis etc were just as bad. Europe is what they all want to play in then its time they bloody showed it....

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26 Aug 2011 17:17:54
Only reason Jela is getting uphappy because he cares about the club & fans and knows were better than that. No way will he bail out on Rangers, look at his comments after the bad results ''this is not Glasgow Rangers'', it just goes to show how big he knows the club are and how much it means to so many people.

Jelaviccccccc Jelaviccccccc

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26 Aug 2011 17:13:43
lets all hope sion get found guilty and celtic get in europa league to salvage some coeffient for scotland this year.

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Aw naw I couldn't take that too

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What nipping in the back door

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Rivalry aside when it comes to europe. Scottish football is in Dire Straights and we need all the teams to be in europe, rivals or not.

Allan

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I dont care about co offecients Celtic had their chance to get through and they wereny good enuff.

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Well said mate.

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Why do you not care you must be mad as all scottish clubs are becoing a laughing stock and will be in ruin in 2 years time if there is not a big improvement next season, think of the players who only come to Scotland as they get the chance to play in europe, who will the SPL attrack in 2 year time no one with a good reputation. the 1s that are al ready here will be looking for the nearest exit come the end of the season if not before that

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Either way i wouldn't be disappointed. They'd inherit a very tough group though which could hurt the co-efficient if they perform any similar to the rest of scotland last night.

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You don't care about co-efficients? Did you not watch the European games we've had this year? It's because Scotland's co-efficient is so bad that we had to play in the qualifiers.

And yes, I know that we're not playing very good at the moment and chances are that coming up against teams like Barca, AC Milan or Man Utd wouldn't make good viewing. At least we'd be in there earning some decent money which we badly need.

It doesn't matter whether you're a true-blues or a part-timer, either way lads we do need to look at the bigger picture I'm afraid. Times are tough. We needed Hearts, Dundee Utd, Celtic (yes, even them) and especially ourselves to do well - it could be a long season ahead.

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Thats what I tht about last night and they all played

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Hate to say it but i have to agree wait 2 years time when we are playing qualifiers in june the same as the irish and welsh minnows and see how many european nights we will be goin to(if you go at all)and the type of players we will attract for years to come.

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Im a celtic fan and i wonted rangers to go through and they should have went through only for the reason is sotland is that badi dont wont celtic to go in knowing that we were beat in the progress but we need to get some teams in europe

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Dont care about the co-efficients?

the fact is the winners of the spl the season after next will have 3 qualifying round to get to the champions league, and 4 rounds to get into the europa league, you should think otherwise, ya moron

yes i dont like celtic, but i want them to do well in europe (as long as we are better) as it also helps us in the bigger picture

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26 Aug 2011 17:07:35
alistair jonstone told us all and we should have listened....we are loyal paying supporters who deserve to know the truth and not be lied to

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SO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW THAT WHAT WE ARE BEING TOLD IS LIES
Believe it to be the truth until it has actually been proven that there is no money available for transfers (targets, wages, agents etc, etc, etc...) the money covers the whole package.
Btw.. quite a bit of money has been invested in the team by signing up the 'better' players on long term contracts...

How about trying to get right behind the team, and encourage them to win the league now

Stu

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Yes you might be right-come back all is forgiven

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Funny thing about the last post tell us this he wouldnt know who said this or that neither would you stu and if you think about what you both said its really moronic Rangers belong to whyte he is under no obligation to tell anyone about his business not you not me the inland revenue yes but he does,nt even have to explain anything to them as long as the soms add up.

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Yes you might be right-come back all is forgiven

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Funny thing about the last post tell us this he wouldnt know who said this or that neither would you stu and if you think about what you both said its really moronic Rangers belong to whyte he is under no obligation to tell anyone about his business not you not me the inland revenue yes but he does,nt even have to explain anything to them as long as the soms add up
WE ARE RANGERS, THE FAMOUS GLASGOW RANGERS, YOU LOT DISGUST ME, STAY AWAY FROM IBROX UNTIL WHYTE BUYS GOOD PLAYER< BOYCOT IBROX AND GET RID OF THAT FAT BLOOTER SALLY. WIZARD

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Maybe start with mr murray thats why we are in the mess we are in

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Funny thing about the last post tell us this he wouldnt know who said this or that neither would you stu and if you think about what you both said its really moronic Rangers belong to whyte he is under no obligation to tell anyone about his business not you not me the inland revenue yes but he does,nt even have to explain anything to them as long as the soms add up.

Don't criticise other peoples comments if you cannot use proper spelling, punctuation etc..
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26 Aug 2011 16:41:06
Get rid of Sarefoot, Edu (Eh Dinny) and ORTAK SHOCKING PLAYERS DO NOT DESERVE THE SHIRT. Sign Hateley, we need players who know what it means to wear the shirt

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Mark's to old now

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Hateley is minging reading reject.problem with the gers is no pace and trickery hateley dont make me laugh

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Sare foot as you call him as been better than most of his team mates lately.

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Ortiz wont improve if people dont give him a chance hes a ranger gee the guy a bit of time

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At least give him until he can speak English and communicate effectively. Bear in mind McCoist was shocking when he arrived as a player and there were those who said the same things about him. Just as well the club didn't take any notice eh? Oh, and sign Hately because his Dad played for Rangers? What a great signing philosophy.

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At least wait till he can understand why you are all swearing at him and giving him abuse....lol

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26 Aug 2011 16:24:56
pacey winger defo we need on the right wing humpherys or templeton and wylde on left naismith and davis mid jela laffert up front we wud see a big diffrence and alot of goals getin scored

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Templeton yes, humphreys is terrible player and terrible suggestion

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Rangers need someone that can change a game. at the moment some of allys signings look ordinary, average players to say the least ,we need a couple of quality creative players and a striker that can help jela and score one on one against a keeper last nights showing has asked questions and the transfer deadline comes closer

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We need another forward as lafferty wont cut the mustard


T-Bear

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Did u see templeton against spurs he was p*sh. stay well away from Scottish talent u would have thought recent results would have told u that.

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4th comment bang on. All spl players are now suspect. We can not rely on this league as a benchmark for players. And we scoff at league 1/2 players Linked.

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26 Aug 2011 16:20:17
if we can get another winger who can take people on unlike ortiz and maybe a striker and release edu healy and broadfoot coz they r crap sorry but its the truth

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Spot on, also a young pacy striker required

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26 Aug 2011 16:20:06
Is anyone else concerned about the deal that we are planning with Fox sports due to our 3 American players? I think that Bocanegra and Bedoya will turn out to be good signings but Edu is terrible, a total liability. Would this deal mean that if Edu is fit and not suspended he would have to be playing as per our deal with Fox?

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When he is fit he will be picked anyway coz sally likes him fox sports wont pick the team

T-Bear

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Ain't heard about no deal with fox sound like putting 2 n 2 together n getting 5 just cos of 3 USA players

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They wouldn't make a deal if it placed restrictions upon the team. I think ally would be inclined to select him... but not necessarily forced. Muzz

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26 Aug 2011 16:12:38
Does anyone thinkbig jela could leave,he doesnt appear happy

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Neither does Davis, he genuinely looks like he can't be arsed. He looked the business against Motherwell and that was the first game he looked like his head was in it since Blackpool friendly.

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No wonder jelavic doesnt look happy have you saw the way hes played in european ties think he maybe feels bit guilty hes had plenty chances n scored 1.

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26 Aug 2011 15:54:32
Does anyone actually think we will buy anyone before transfer window shuts.

Personally its annoying me with people saying we need a creative midfielder because we have already purchased mckay and bedoya and bartley can play there. Positions I reckon we need are

1 right pacey winger that can cross a ball

1 striker

1 right back.

Players I think (personal opinion) would do a good job is.

1 right winger - templeton althou mad vlads valuation may be 2 high

Striker- loan from premiership - ebanks blake(spel)

Right back- alan hutton. I reckon this guy should be bought at any cost.

Bears to win 4iar

Alexcee

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I'd like to think we would, but realistically i don't think Whyte will spend any more money. We've enough new players to hopefully win the league.

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Answer to your post is NO. Would be shocked if we purchase anybody. We may pick up a loan signing or two, but Mr Whyte putting his hand in his pocket, NO CHANCE.

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Is ebanks blake no injured?

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We do need a creative midfielder and hopefully Bedoya or McKay can fill that role, if not then we still need one and have done for a long time now.

We have also just tied a right back up on a 5 year contract. You may think he's useless but may I remind you the same was said about Alan Hutton before he regained his form and left for £9m

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Why go for Ebanks Blake when he's been ruled out for at least a month through injury? We need a striker with pace, something which we lack when Lafferty is injured. Get rid of Edu, McCulloch and
Broadfoot. We need a passer in midfield cause Davis isn't capable of a defence splitting pass

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We need a leader in midfield just look at last night we were so disjointed. Don't dispute need for striker or right back.

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We don't need a right back, whittiker will come good again, and theres back up from Mcmillan and Broaders. Also is Ortiz not meant to be a full back ? Left back and centre back also well provided for now too. Just need a winger and another striker

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Whyte beter spend more money he promised 5 mil min

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In reply to
We need a passer in midfield cause Davis isn't capable of a defence splitting pass

Was it not davis who split the motherwells defence with a pass from his own half to play Wylde thru for his goal on sunday past?.. thats only 1 example form the last league game.. enough said.. give it a rest and Back the team for a change

Stu

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Ebanks Blake is crap anyway so he won't improve us at all.

Depressing are the gers.

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Bartley is not a creative midfielder capable of unlocking defences and he would be first to admit it. Our team is screaming out for some creativity.

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Loan striker? No, we are out europe already we can buy someone and give him a year to get used to playing for rangers instead of loaning someone then next year be back having the very same conversation again again and again

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26 Aug 2011 15:40:18
Leigh Griffiths is a good wee striker he scored against us (Scotland's Premier Club) he's a Hibs fan but do probably a good move for him if he goes to Hibs, I think he would be alright back-up on loan but think we also need a better goalscorer. Cameron Jerome of Birmingham has already said he's a Rangers fan & they are really stuck for money £3.5M or so would get him.

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We aint cameron jerome stop posting this tosh about supporting the team, players are only interested in money

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Cameron jerome no chance dont want him hes mince and worse than what we have already

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I think you'll find we are also stuck for money, otherwise we would have decent players in and shoite OOT........... Thank you for upholding the investment promise Mr Whyte, ya CHARLATAN

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What are you talkin about ya person if it wasn't for Lafferty being a Rangers fan he'd probably be at Celtic. It depends on the player when it comes to money, Leigh Griffiths already has his EPL move so going to the club he supports Hibs on loan is a good move for him and i'm not sure regarding Jerome but I think he'd take a move to Rangers, he's young and has more time to make a name for himself in the EPL.

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Cameron jerome may be a rangers fan but a goalscorer he aint

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Hes signed on loan for hibs i played with him at leith athletic and hutchie vale do ur research if u dont believe me rangers had him on trial a few years back and didnt want to sign him

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26 Aug 2011 15:39:55
If jelevic goes so does 20,000 season ticket holders for next season, so make ur choice mr tight.

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Lookes like 30,000 @ ibrox then, whyte is an assit stipper

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And you can speak for all 20,000 ? Rangers fans are more LOYAL than that, more loyal than YOU obviously, turn the light aff on yer way OOT glory hunter, ta ta

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Don't be daft. Most Rangers fans have more loyalty to the club than that. The ones who don't will not be missed as far as I'm concerned

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Who says he's going anywhere?

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No player is bigger than the club, we've had better player's than Jelavic leave the club over the years and we still have 50,000 fans for home games. WATP

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Rangers have lost far better players than jela its not like he`s the greatest player on earth just a very average player than shines in a poor league-ill support my gers if 11 17 year olds went on the field every week aftwer all its the club we support

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Jelavic is the best player we've had in years. I'd say easily one of the best players we've ever had. I'd be incredibly dissapointed to see him go. One of the only exciting parts of our team really.

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Nobody will signe jelavic he has had a stinker the last 2 euro games

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He's an excellent player, but nowhere near the best we've ever had, not by a long shot.

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If Jela is as good as you all think we would still be in the competition over the four games he missed a good few chances

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26 Aug 2011 15:14:13
Thank the we man above both teams are out scottish football take a look . youth is the way forward any1 brought in aint better thean what both teams have in there youths .
we have tried everything else so try the youths atleast we know they are tring

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26 Aug 2011 14:52:05
Vladamier Weiss currently at Wigan undergoing a medical. Various sources. Looks like the wee mans wishes aren't gonna cum true

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26 Aug 2011 14:57:54
Leigh griffiths going to hibs on loan.. Worth a pubt i say, knows scottish football better option that healy,fleck,kerkar,hemmings,

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26 Aug 2011 14:38:53
I would sell jelavic n use the money on 2 top players,its obv we need a playmaker and a midfielder that's got sum dig,ally will get it right we just need to support him and the team 100%

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Sell our top goalscorer and replace him with 2 midfield players

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Then we will need to but 2 strikers, POINT IN THAT?

weeblue

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We stil have 2 midfield players to come in

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U just contradicted urself there. U would sell jela then go on to say get behind the team???

J J

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What money? he hasnt moved face it who will pay more than £6m for him? whats he really done in his career? gets the odd national game scored a few last season in a terrible league-not a great player at all- he`s decent for us but he misses loads of chances in games that matter would be an average player in any real league

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Why do we need ANOTHER midfielder? we just bought Bedoya and Mckay who are both strong midfielders and Mckay has a good dig about him and likes to get a tackle in where as Bedoya is more of an attacking midfielder that creates set pieces stop getting on the teams back and f***ing back the champions ya bunch of part time supporters

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26 Aug 2011 14:26:31
Hope tims get back in they cant cope way 3 games a week, think it would hand us the league

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How do you know that ? when was the last time they had to,? Lol 4 in a row

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I think that you will find that they would be able to handle it. They have a huge squad. I am not saying they would get through but they would definately handle it better than us

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26 Aug 2011 13:59:24
This page uses to be good for checking rumours. Now it's just full of s**te from people moaning. Everyone knew it would be a big ask from ally. Now where's the rumours today

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True the amount of criticism davis gets is embaressing

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The biggest rumour doing the rounds today is that you're a walloper.

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They all get criticism. It's called bad support. Support is about good times and bad. It's the negative attitude us scots have when beat. Ally Mccoist is in his first full time manager position. I dint think it's where his career should start but I hope he does well. However my expectations are low as a rookie shouldn't start his managing career in charge of a top flight club

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What a big ask to beat a team on par with a average spl side?

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I think what he means is that this page is meant to be about rumours - the possible comings and goings of players.

But the past little while it seems to be more about people moaning. Which is fair enough, we're all entitled to our opinions - it's not exactly been an enjoyable start to the season. Surely the banter page would be more suited for people to express their thoughts about the on-field performances.

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There are no rumours now, that is the problem. We have done our business now and with no european football income at all, there will be no more signings. And, even if there is...they will be nothing to get excited about. FIRED UP AND READY?? more like FLAT AND UNPREPARED.

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There will always be rumours. Even if McCoist, Smith and Whyte had a press conference to announce that there will be no more signings - there will still be someone sitting somewhere typing rumours onto a site like this. But that's the beauty about rumours, even though 99% seem to turn out to be false, they always make interesting reading. And that is why the likes of you and me are here.

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26 Aug 2011 13:57:19
look its clear we need a striker, but we need a leader in the middle of the park, something we have not had since Barry left its not Davis. if we could get someone like Barry then I think we would get a lot mre out of Davis, anybody agree

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26 Aug 2011 13:57:13
mate works at murray park mccoist told to sell 2 top players now no euro money coming in. no more signings .

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Rite im a Celtic fan and im willing to bet money u are aswell. We have enough problems with our own team so stop s**t stirring and grow up.

Drew

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Wats the point in ur lies?? does it make you feel better about ur team getting tanked 3-1??

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Drew = honest Celtic fan

Some others claim to be but they're just Rangers haters

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Good for u drew it's nice to read an honest Celtic fans posts

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Complete and utter drivel, stop making up sh@tty stories, last night was bad enough ya tw@t

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As a Celtic fan, both clubs need a reality check now, both clubs will make a huge financial loss this year, Celtics squad too big, too much on wages, need to sell
Rangers squad too small, need to spend money and wages on some more players, not sell players.
this is a painfull time financially for both clubs, but for different reasons

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26 Aug 2011 13:29:52
If cetlic are reinstated back into
Europa League this is who they will have

Atletico Madrid
Rennes
Udinese


Do they want back in now lol

Lets take our dissappointment out of the sheep this sunday.

Blue bells are blue

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Would you want back in with the TV money games against Italian and Spanish teams will bring in?

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Think Rangers would take that group in a heart beat if the shoe was on the other foot,but i dont think Celtic will get back in,Sion's arguement is the players were registered,so how can that be if there was a ban on them,think the governing bodies have made a balls up,and will crumble.

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I want them in it Not only for the dribblings they will recieve but for the co-efficiency points for the league

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Hope they do get back in so they get shown up off a decent side this time and it will f**k them for the league

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I ask yous all would you have taken this group if the shoe was on the other foot,Malmo and Marribor were they decent teams,no and they showed Rangers up,sounds like sour grapes.

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Others wont be happy as Celtic would have been in Pot 2 and Sion in Pot 4. Therefore Athletico will be playing 2 teams from Pot two which "could" hinder their chances to progress. Sticky ground for UEFA

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Celtic man here, I don't see how UEFA can back down on throwing Sion out. If they broke the rules and also went behind UEFA's back to the Swiss courts then they have to be punished. UEFA were not slow to punish Rangers for song's, they have to act.

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If they do get in they will play madrid away 3 days before the old firm game.

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Just jealousy bears. hoops will get back in and money made from tv rights against spanish french and italian teams will hand spl on a plate.

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It is not UEFA who screwed up and registered them - it was the Swiss FA. They were told not to send the sheet with those names on it and they did. UEFA waited to see what the next move was and had to wait to see if they played them. UEFA, FIFA and the Court of Arbitration have already ruled that they are ineligible. Sion are now going to a local Swiss Court that has no jurisdiction over this matter and UEFA's ruling will be final.

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26 Aug 2011 13:18:43
Dont see many people picking on one of the poorest players on the park last night and thats JELAVIC his movement was awful , Lafferty had a better game he moved towatd the ball and wanted to get involved but the midfield didnt provide , Edu was poor yet again hes not a player for important games he slows us down

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Considering Lafferty isnt fully fit i do have to agree he was better than Jelavic last night shame he didnt score. Jelavic looked slightly uninterested i hope he realises hes still got plenty to prove and cant just live off the hype and an attempt at an overhead kick every game.

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Jelavic wasn't in the game and the same as last 3 games because he is gettin balls thumped up to him and expected to do the work. When the ball thumped up is a bad ball n all he can do is flick it o

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METHINKS Jelavic is vastly overated,,he flatters to deceive,,he aint no Colin Stein

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100% agree with the first part of your comment, Lafferty was the only forward thinking player that showed a fight and desire to be on the ball, however, Edu was probably our best midfielder last night, definitely not a compliment but he most certainly wasn't the worst and is just becoming an easy target now for fans who don't understand roles on a football pitch, Im not saying he hasn't been poor recently, he has and im sure he knows that but he hasn't been poor EVERY match, hes just the easiest and most obvious target now

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Edu was awful last night. needs to go it's beyond a joke.

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I agree jelavic wassnt at his best last nite but even in current if u gave him ther chance healy and lafferty each got he would have scored it was a bad result but there is no way jelavic is overated. A thought there was worse than edu last nite sometimes the crowd get on his back for no reason hes an easy target for example people shouting at him to win a ball thats 20 yards from him. Am not his biggest fan but he isnt goin to get any better with stupidity like the Lets all get behind the guy and give him confidence he is a rangers player after all

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Jelavic needs another striker playing off him him and big laff are too similar we need another striker preferebly a young guy I don't think I have ever seen old man Beattie play....

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I thought Davis was very poor last night, but its always edu who gets it And Wylde was shocking

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Did I actualy just see someone say that Edu was our best midfeilder last night? you must be kidding me....local under 15 teams will have a better touch than edu, his passing is very very poor, his positional sense for a "sitting midfeilder" is scary, he actualy cant tackle correctly..he jumps into the back of people and runs into them hes a nightmare, absolute joke....he isnt a footballer...hes a basketballer os a cross country runner....HE IS HORRIFIC....why doe davis need to drop so deep to take the ball from defence to try and create something (edus job) ?? il tell u why...because edu aint got a clue, hasnt had a clue for the last year, and dont say he has no confidence...profesionals arent paid 10grand a week to have low confidwnce for a year....HES POOR

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26 Aug 2011 13:14:52
If last night proved anything it was that people need to stop making out as though Wylde is a superstar. He has pace, no crossing ability and very little skill. Davis is not as good as people make him out to be. Edu doesn't really do much except simple sideways passes, the same as Ortiz. Please stop pretending Wylde is good he is ok but certainly;y not good enough to be a starter for Rangers.

GovanFR

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Wylde was rangers best player last night mate fact

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Have to agree with the reply above, I thought wylde had a good game last night, best player on the park last night and on sunday against motherwell. the guy is still young and will get better. its because of people like you that youth dont get a chance at rangers

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Best player on the park last nite He's the only guy we have with pace an nearly every ball he put into the box last nite caused problems for that Maribor The post above is right 2cause of Guys like u youth never get a chance

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Wylde was class last night with every cross in the danger zone. MOM by a long shot. stop talkin PSH

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Who is making out he is a superstar? the difference he makes to the side is unreal,he has pace and a CAN deliver a good ball.davis is the best player in the spl, any criticism he gets is ridiculous. we need a fully fit ness and a pacy striker,maybe give little a chance

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Wylde found some space last night and the commentators were right to point that out. I think he put in a DECENT performance but NO one in the team should be praised for last night. He's quite greedy at the moment but i think if he gets more games under his belt he'll cut it out a bit. His final product will improve with experience too so i would be starting him when ever he is fit. Same with ness. We need tyo see more youth coming in as murray park is full of potential. Muzz

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Wylde good crosses? was I at a different game last night?

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Is this the winger that was going to change everything ? how many times did he take on and go by his man last night ? when his crosses (or panic hits) went into the box who were they suppossed to be for ? maybe his new wage packet in his back pocket was weighing him down as he tried to get some corners past the first defender- not criticism- just saying what i saw- and nothing to do with having a go at the young players- ross perry ? he shows such composure in defence and dosent panic- praise where its well due

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Was at Ibrox and Wylde was rank rotten cross balls were no exixstent hardly ever beat the first man

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He was ok and gave more hope than any other on the park. We are just crying out for a fast winger and he is the only one we have got. Now he goes and works on his crossing. Surely the coaches now do what they are paid to do and help the boy.

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26 Aug 2011 13:11:54
what rangers really need is a leader on the park when things aint going so good we need that player that going to motivate everyone and that sure aint steve davis

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Have to agree with you on this one, When we are up against it it shows how much we rely on Davie Weir

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Definately agree. One thing that struck me at the game last night. Our two best players were Goian and Bocanegra. Carlos looks like a leader, good on the ball, excellent distribution. Good shout for captain?

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Davis leads by example, he is ALWAYS available for passes,he bites into tackles and drives the team on.he's been our best player for years and deserves the captaincy. bocanegra is a leader he doesnt need an armband to show that

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I raised this on Rangers Media after the first game against Hearts i cant see him driving the players I would give it to big Shagger I think he has the passion and the influence to really get the boys fired up.

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26 Aug 2011 13:01:08
SION ARE TO BE THROWN OUT OF THE EUROPA LEAGUE The Mhanks are back in after a total humping. Sion had inelligible transfers, ye couldnae f**king make this up and I'm not. BBC

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Lies there is a chance sion maybe kicked out so dont talk p1sh pal

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Nothings been decided yet but this has been ongoing since the draw was made. Uefa warned Sion before the ties were played that the 6 players in question were ineligible and if they played sanctions would be taken against them, disqualification being the most likely outcome. 5 of the 6 ineligible players were used in the 2 ties so I don't really see that they can have any complaints if they are disqualified and if Celtic are reinstated due to their inability to adhere to the rules then thats up to Uefa to decide.

Mark

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Who did sion before the tims should they not be back in first

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LOL Nothing has been decided about this yet.... I'm guessing you've just woke up from your Buckfast induced coma and read about it?

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As far as I Know, none of the ineligible players were used until their league game against Basle, this was played on the weekend before the tie at Celtic Park. I could be wrong but I'm sure I read this somewhere.

Mark

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They played two of the players in the first leg then brought two on as subs. And i believe it was the same again last nite. Hearing not til Tuesday, nothing decided yet.


Drew

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Its been common knowledge for ages now about sions ineligible players.they knew they were breaking the rules.thing is.do we celts want in the back door?well,i,for one,do not.simply cos we are colin nish,and dont deserve it.

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The guy who scored two of the goals is ineligible

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26 Aug 2011 12:52:42
It's obvious. Mr Whyte didn't want Ally as manager, ally came wae the package. If he (Mr Whyte) said no, then fans would have turned on him like when Paul LeGuen wanted to sell Barry Ferguson. Why give millions to an inexperienced manager. Just like Neil Lennon, given millions. Where did they finish..... 2nd.

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Well if thats the case, where would we finish without spending millions?

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Got to agree with your post. Time for Whyte to walk the walk

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Neil Lennon was hardly given 'Millions', was his biggest transfer not 3million for Juarez? We spent 4.1 million on Jelavic, I think if you look at first team squads we have spent more on ours than celtic have spent on theirs. Still, I agree that Whyte wants his own man, not Ally. Does anyone else think Whyte looks like a fish?

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26 Aug 2011 12:28:27
Mcoist saying on stv sport that he's had the full backing of whyte,aye right im sure the s**te he has bought was the players he really wanted
sounds like a bit of sooking up cos he knows his coats on a shaky peg and rightly so,he is like a lost soul in the dugout and f.f.s ally ditch the suit and stay in he dugout cos you aint doing any better being a walter smith wanna be.
the manky mob might be bad too but rangers are worse and wont win a thing this year.

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They are s**ter than us and always will be - fuk off and dont support us then. Being a fan is about supporting the club through good times and bad - if jela leaves, he leaves, no player is bigger than the club - we need to win the league and gaurantee we get the £18m from the CL - so important

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Totally agree with the first post. If you or I under perform in our job and lose a few million we would be out on our ar*e. Ally is not a manager in my eyes,how could you possibly take him seriously.

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Ally ditch the suit and stay in he dugout cos you aint doing any better being a walter smith wanna be.

check back on every rangers manager ya clown, they all wore suits, i dont want to see our manager with a pair of shorts or tracky bottoms on, rangers manager and u have to at least dress properly

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F**k off?ive been following the gers for 40 years and probably before you were born ya clown so dont tell me im not not a supporter.i do support my club but it is on a downhill spiral n if ur happy wae that kind of quality away and supprt east stirling or something,cos if whats happening at ibrox right now keeps you happy you are deluded.

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I think allys problems are with the players on the park. I don't think his choice in clothing would have any impact on the team. It is petulant and childish to suggest otherwise.

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Who cares what he wears? Does that mean u blame the new strip that we lost because u might not like it? Wen Smith lost to kaunus u wernt tellin him to get the suit off, Get a grip

Support the team, support the manager,
support the champions WATP

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It wasnt new signings that let team down last night.

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26 Aug 2011 12:23:01
Bring Back Filip Sebo

On 15 September 2010 Šebo joined Slovan Bratislava. The striker become free agent from the French club of Valenciennes and signed a deal until June 2012 with the Slovak side.[7] From the 10th round onwards he scored 22 league goals and, subsequently, became the top scorer of the league once again, beating the nearest opponent by 4 goals, while playing only in approximately 22 competitive matches, leaving former employers mystified.

Least he worked hard for the team

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Lets not bring him back.

GovanFR

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26 Aug 2011 12:19:51
ally please buy a striker. I'm well aware of laffertys record towards the tail end of last season but I'm also aware of his entire record last season. He got alot of chances to play upfront and blew it quite a few times especially in europe. i.e. sporting lisbon.If ally was interested in hemed, trichovski and goodwillie then he obviously wants a striker so I'm hopeful that he'll pull off a cracker before the transfer window closes. provided he is backed by Mr Whyte any reccommendatiosn (n ot the kid le fondre, why should we embarass ourselvees with buying english FOURTH tier players.)

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Because that's about the level that we seem only to be able to afford it looks like anyway.

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Yes where is the 12-15million - I reckon Whyte has spent 1-2 million no more.
I am afraid there will be no rabbits in the hat....

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Embarass ourselves cooper clydebank rangers no longer improve any player that comes to the club this must change right away,i,m affraid there,s more embarassment to come st johnstone inverness, clydebank,alloa dont care,just get them in and IMPROVE them

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26 Aug 2011 12:16:48
ally should stand up to mr whyte no chance whyte would say anything bad or sack him for it, he would have the whole rangers family to deal with if he did

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You maybe right there mate
But the worrying thing is do you think Whyte gives a flying f..k about the Rangers family he s got the season ticket money and we dont seem to have the quality in our team that he promised us.

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Ye thats true mate. Something needs to be done though, Whyte knows that everone loves ally and we will defend him no matter what

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26 Aug 2011 12:15:25
The vibe i get from mccoist is that in the dressing room he just says "Don't worry guys it will be better next time" and tells them its not their fault. I want him banging heads in the dressing room and letting them know what it means to play for the badge, he of all people should know that. The team needs to know how bad we feel, and quite frankly i don't think the really understand that.

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I think this is the down side of having a manager who loves the club - he feels he is responsible for us losing and wont take it out on the players. As fans we are more often disappointed with the team more than angry( and rarely either) BUT as manager, he feels like its all his fault and thusly feels disappointed and tries to reassure the team. I hope he has some words with the team and challenges them to play well, but i really cant see it. He's too nice a guy to rage at them in my opinion. Still think he will be a great manager given time and experience. Muzz

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26 Aug 2011 12:12:28
Yes it was disappointing last night & yes certain players didn't really perform but what i was fed up with, was the amount of times they went down under the slightest of touches. The ref got conned on a few occassions & he should have let the play flow more.
I wonder if we will make any new signings ?

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More than that m8, he missed two crucial penalty decisions that would have swung the game, BUT........... we simply did not take our many chances created. Why did Davis PASS 6 Yrds out ffs ?

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We all knew they would do that. It was up to the players to make sure we were well ahead, so all that sh*t did not matter. Unlucky and poor sums it up for me.

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26 Aug 2011 12:11:42
Many may disagree, In fact a majority will but i think Diouf would be a good signing from rangers, We need a player with fight (I don't mean actual fighting) but a player who gets the head down and gets at teams, Too many players in Rangers at the moment who's only 2 ideas are pass back, or hump it up to jelavic, who is a star player but could do with more support.

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Diouf is not the answer He brings nothing that we haven't already got in the squad.

We created 23 chances last night, so apart from Yelavic's lack of form, we need another out an out striker.... Lafferty or Healy are not the answer either.

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I think Diouf would be a mistake - just not got the quality required in spite of his wish to come to Ibrox.
If we get rid of Beattie (20K/week) we can get a bit of quality up front.

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I said this before i thought Diouf bring to the team what brown does for them he gets in ppls faces and gives the whole team a boost. May not be the best player but his distribution of the ball is gd and he works hard and hes 10 times the player ortiz is on that right so i say it would be a good move

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Could john greig please report to the changing rooms
calling john grieig

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Agree mate. Last night solidified that - we didn't have anyone whipping the crowd up. Admittedly, we don't want to be paying a mascot 20k a week, but however little some of us feel he contributed last season, its true he has experience at the highest level. i'd take him back so long as wages weren't a problem. Muzz

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Diouf is garbage get a grip

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26 Aug 2011 12:03:14
How can u say broadfoot was bad last nite he was 1 of the better players last nite, usual always gets picked on, adlest he give 100% might not be good but he's a tryer
, Davis did absolutely nothing

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Posted similar earlier... U expect less than what he produced can you say that for davis,jelavic,lafferty

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That old scottish phrase "he may not be good but hes a tryer" its no wonder were as bad as we are.

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Watch the Maribor goal again and tell me what clown played the boy onside

i rest my case ....

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Steven davis isnt a one man show, the guy needs another midfielder to help with job, wylde did ok and managed to balls into the box, tell me what edu and ortiz provided in the middle, nothing, steven davis was all over the park and half the time deep doing what edu should have been doing.

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Did u watch th same game, jst because he can run about like a heedless chicken doesnt me he a hud a gd game, total problem wae scottish fitba, aw he big can run and tries hard, load eh crap, need to bring players through with ability, skill and vision.

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I agree, I don't think Broadfoot is half as bad folk think, If he came from another country fans would pprobably love him, the fact he's scottish and was signed from a team like st mirren gives the fans a chance to use him as an easy target. Watch him play, he can actually pass 1st time and move, a trait many Scottish players can't seem to grasp. Its what all good players and teams do, pass and move, plus he can can play quick 5 yard, 10 yard and 20 yard passes, again, a thing that most scottish players/teams can't do, bizarre as it seems.

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Sell davis and jelavic the now when you can get good cash for them and reinvest in the team, next summer no team would take them off us if we continue like this.

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26 Aug 2011 11:44:56
At lest we made alot of chances and showed to be a real threat with a few faces still adapting to Scottish football all in all we played well obviously not good enough but we showed a good performance which will win the 3 in a row. Let's not all be negative about last night fellow Bears WATP. Ger4life

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4INAROW Surely you mean 4 in a row ? and we were poor against a team no better than Partick thistle............. POOR

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3 in a row was last year mate lol

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I think 4 in a row is what you were lookin for m8

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Already got 3 in a row. ger for life realy ?

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Lol I really did mean 4 and Ger4life yes really al follow this club till I die

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Atleast, atleast, atleast is not good enough i take it you'd be happy if if celtic won the league but ATLEAST we tried? history doesn't remember losers just like yourself 3 in a row?

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26 Aug 2011 11:34:49
It was handy that the league programme started early this year to give all the clubs an opportunity to qualify. That idea worked out well then. (I'm being sarcastic)

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Yip, The english leagues started about 3 weeks after ours and they all progressed, Birmingham included

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26 Aug 2011 11:32:50
If edu starts on sunday I aint going.

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You won't know until you get there ta ta then

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Dont turn up then. Supporter? my a** the guy is rotten but still support your team Fool

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How do u know if he starts untill the they say the team at ibrox

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It is not Edu that is the problem is poor quality all around the team

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He wasn't the worst by a long shot

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He means he'll leave the dodgy pub he's watching it in with the dodgy stream Go and support your team man

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For christ sake, support your team One man doesn't make the team and he certainly wasn't the worst last night. Davis & Jelavic were posted missing. In good & bad times we need to get behind the team, we are Rangers supporters after all

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Don't go then, call yourself a supporter, get a grip, we don't need you or your negativity

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The reason the guy canny get his game going again is because of guys like you

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So if thats the case where do u sit at ibrox n how much is ur ticket going for :)

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26 Aug 2011 11:31:51
Right folks let's get real here,we played that team of the park last night and if we took our chances we would have won about 5-1 and that's with at least 4 players that won't get a game when everyones fit,we will be alright.keep the faith fellow bears cause we are more than a match for the manky mob

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26 Aug 2011 11:03:04
Shagger
Hutton, goian, Carlos. Wallace,
Naismith, Davis, danns, conway
Jelevic, goodwillie, miller and lafferty on the bench. Not a bad 1st 13 mr whyte?
This is the type of players u promised when we bought our season tickets in may.

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After the way bids for players were being handled did you really think we would get any of them, the debacle with goodwillie, then having bid for cuellar accepted then panicking because it had and withdrawing it . Will support gers through thick and thin, but have to say just play the so called kids they have more heart and ability to play for shirt than the majority of those so called first team picks.

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He said that to get season tickets sold after they were sold he rubbed his hands n laughed whilst sticking his two fingers up to all who had parted with theyre hard earned cash

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Couldnt even get conway on a free, shocking i reckon he would have been a good addition to the squad

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This would have been the case if we had pulled the finger out;

Mcgregor

Whittaker
Goian
Juhasz
Papac/Wallace

Naismith
Davis
McKay
Verhoek/Weiss

Jelavic
Trickovski

with cuellar (in 1st team when fit), bartley, bedoya, ortiz n goodwillie in squad. Maybe even Hemed if we had offered him proper money.

Another case of us being lied to, to buy our season tickets.

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26 Aug 2011 11:02:07
I can't believe how bad a footballer ortiz is. Has no business in a rangers top

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Give the guy a chance he still adapting.i am an ally mccoist fan.he has to take the blame as he is constantly picking edu,mcculloch and broadfoot..he is not a manager he should of tried the lower leagues then in a few yrs tried at the queens 11.
mitch

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I said on here when we signed him that, he is the new Jerome Rothen and I have yet to see anything to change my opinion

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Ian durrant said he was good.....

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You,r right hes mince remember who thought he was good enough to buy in the first place looks as if hes gonna be mince as well

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I know he's not done alot so far but, look at the guy. He sits on his own on the bench, seems grateful when his team mates praise his deliveries. The language barrier is a MASSIVE problem. He's obviously not the most confident player having never played his football out side of his native spain. I think he will come good by the end of the season. The guy seems anxious to impress but is unfamiliar with scottish football. I really want to see him do well as i feel for the guy.

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26 Aug 2011 10:57:08
Well, I told you so weeks ago and I will tell you again.Billy Davies will be your new manager before November and I am so confident you won't win anything this season my missus will show her arse on the centre spot as well as me.

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Are you the guy on the phone in that said celtic would win 2-0 last night.your crystal ball aint working.plus people have been saying that rangers wont win anything for the last four years doh

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So who will win then

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Thats some confident rhetoric coming from someone who has remained anonymous.

Caol

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I don't want to see the spots on your wife's arse mate. Not again anyway LOL

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Is yer wifes @rse worth a wee look ? or, aw hairy and plooky ?

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I`ve seen yer wifes erse and never again lolol

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We still have two players to come in which shoud strengthen the midfield

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Yer wives alredy showed her arse.and it wisnae that nice...it'll haunt me more than last nights game....

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Why do we need to see a couple of a**eholes in middle of the pitch, your mob are used to looking at them every game.

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26 Aug 2011 10:54:46
I really cant get how people say its not allys fault, who picked clubfoot, edu and ortiz last nite.

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And our big players like Davis and Jelavic did better than them did they? Not to mention the £20k+ a week superstar who got himself needlessly sent off and suspended At least Broadfoot gives his all in a shirt, unlike other highly paid primadonna's

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The injury's and suspensions to his team picked it for him

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Who plays instead..... Kerkar,fleck,healy,hutton, were the only subs....

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And who would you have played instead with the injuries and suspensions we have ?

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Who would you pick mourinho??

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Wise up... suppose you'd do a better job?? IN ALLY WE TRUST

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Broadfoot was one of the best players last night, he had a few good runs up the wing and hardly done anything wrong

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He had nobody else to chose from, what do you want him to do Pick the Right back from the u17's. People have to give super ally a chance, uncle walter got a chance when souness left and look how he turned out Ally has had to deal with signing from the bargain basement of the football world and i am still positive we will win the league again Europa League doesn't really make much money anyway

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Hutton, is beter than edu and should have started the game

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26 Aug 2011 10:45:57
Think it's safe to say gago won't be coming to rangers. As the BBC transfer rumour page has again linked Manchester city to him. Think it's safe to say they can outbid us for him if they want him

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I could have told you that he wasn't coming the first time i read that rumour

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It another player from the bogus Ibrox transfer list ask Whyte has another up his sleeve so dont worry there will be a couple yet before the end of the transfer window.

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26 Aug 2011 10:37:04
We need douf and vlad at least if we stand any chance of 4 in a row

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Why would we need diouf, hes s**t end of story. we need a young fast striker up there with jela not a slow old troublemaking striker.

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I'm fed up hearing so called fans coming on hear a shouting for Diouf to be signed and he'll be the answer to all our problems. What did he actually do on the park last season football wise, total waste of space
Wullie

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Piss off diouf was guff. Vladimir maybe but that's a whole different situation.

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26 Aug 2011 10:35:45
all u fans saying ur not worried about last nights result and that its just a hick up etc.. are u real fans? how can u not be hurt by last nights result?

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Rangers were unlucky last night
below are the stats -
not mccoists fault we missed the chances
Goals : 1 1
Possession : 53% 47%
Shots On Target : 17 3
Shots Off Target : 7 3
Corners : 16 2

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Of course we're hurting. However do you really think sacking the manager or slating the owner ( who's saved us from the brink with the bank ) is going to make that much difference ? The players out there should've been good enough to beat Maribor ( and Malmo ) and we had plenty of chances to kill off both ties. Didn't help having at least half a team injured or suspended. Think of the difference a settled defence and Naismith would've made last night. Give the manager and the board time to sort things out, they are learning the hard way. Hopefully we can get another striker in and lets see what happens. And is there anything going on at the other side of the city that we should be worried about ? I think not

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Totally agree with you,its not just a hick up its TOTAL EMBARESSMENT,half of the players are not fit to wear a rangers shirt

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I agree it is a embarresment we got knocked out champions league aff malmo a dont care if ther half way threw ther season we shld be beating them and as for maribor we shld a beat them aswel simply not good enuff for a club like rangers

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26 Aug 2011 10:24:10
I do not blame mccoist nor blame whyte, as you can see all scottish teams done s***e last night and is therefore causing scottish football to go severly down the s**tter more money is needed in scotland for us to compete at such a level

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More money needs to be invested in coaching at grass roots level. and we need to look at young players who have technical abillity rather than athletic abillity.

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League of ireland shamrock rovers....money 4m jelavic,lafferty 3.5m, 7m worth of goalkeeper i can go on and on and on whatever is the matter with rangers and scottish football its not money how much money had malibor and malmo its not money

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Maribor and malmo have less money than us

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Correct money isnt the problem its having 11 players that can play as a unit cos half of them are covering for the other half that arent worthy of wearing the jersey.

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26 Aug 2011 10:22:33
to me there was 2 players missing last night.... weiss and kenny miller.

tricky, hard to handle for the enemy, fast and can take on players and actually get the ball through.

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No No my friend Naismith & Whittaker

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Naismith, Papac Ness all starters in my book plus they are actually rangers players

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Whittaker?? Hes cost us in every game hes played in. Cost a goal in the hearts game which we lost 1-0, Cost a goal at home to Malmo which we lost, and got sent off away to malmo which put us out of europe. Glad he was suspended, would have played macmillan though.

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The enemy? think ur getting football confused with war

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26 Aug 2011 10:16:50
Weise and a natural goal scorer all we need on the park and get ray Wilkins as an assistant manager off the park oh and rangers back up for sale might be good idea to get rid of the clown upstairs... SHOW US THE MONEY oh you don't have it...... Shame on you for the lies mr whyte and before you lot go on about being a proper fan yeah I have bought the strips yeah I do hold season ticket so does 2 other members of my family and we get to as many away games as we can... I am a lover and follower of the mighty Gers but this is just a mighty Shambles. Oh and lafferty and Healy try putting you boots on the right feet and dont trust someone else to tie your laces and ya might score easy opportunities like ya got last night... Total disgrace.....

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Perhaps a season ticket holder, but also incredibly fickle. Your probably the sort of person who spent all of last season slating Lafferty, calling for him to be sold, and then went out and had his name out on the back of your Rangers shirt at the end of the season when he was scoring for fun. Naismith, Macgregor, Davis, whittaker and Wylde all signing new 5 year deals, where did that money come from? That wouldn't have been cheap for a start. Yes we should be beating teams like Maribor, quite comfortably. But cast your mind back to Strachans first season at Celtic and their embarrassing exit early on. That season they also made an early exit at the hands of Clyde in the Scottish cup. They went on to record the SPL's biggest win (8-1) against Dunfermline and had the league wrapped up with 7 matches still to play. Im sure if Rangers were to be able to say the same by the end of this season, we'll all be hailing Whyte as the messiah and Mccoist as the greatest manager we've ever had. What I'd be more disappointed at, was the empty seats at Ibrox last night. THAT was a disgrace.

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Away and take some deep breaths for god sake. 'GET RID OF EVERYBODY'

Are you kidding on? you can lay blame at the strikers door last night, 17 shots on target and it took our newly signed defender (signed by Ally, payed for by Whyte) to get a goal for us.

Total knee jerk reaction.

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26 Aug 2011 10:15:55
the sad thing is no euro football
means they go with the squad
we've got ....

midweek games in the league cup
against Airdrie to look forward to ..

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26 Aug 2011 10:14:05
Crouch on loan? Mate, you must be having a laugh. Peter Crouch lol.

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26 Aug 2011 10:10:31
Said at the start of the season that the decision too keep Healy was ridiculous.

And Walter Smith needs to take part of the blame aswell. Buying players such as McCulloch, Broadfoot, Beattie, Healy and Edu.

Rangers should be nowhere near players of this calibre.

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"Smith needs to take part of the blame" are you daft man funny the amount of sh*t you hear on this

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These are the same guys who won us 3 in a row under walter smith yes we are glasgow rangers but that dont give us a god given right to win every game get over it and support every player who pulls on the jersey regardless of ur personal feelings.
Davie c

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Buying players such as mcculloch and edu who SCORED CRUCIAL goals against celtic ??

The amount of garbage from some people is rediculous .

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26 Aug 2011 10:09:50
Hi Guys,

I was at the game last night and yes it was very dissapointing So was the attendance and the atmosphere truth be told. This is a new Rangers team and will take 2 or 3 months to Gel but we need to give it time. Super Ally is trying to build a team capable of both winning and bringing in money from all around the world. These guys are good players but will take time to settle.

Mr White needs to get 2 big signings in before next Wednesday and if that does not happen then fair enough we will still follow Rangers.

No one really knows what is going on in the back ground with Tax man and signings and marketing etc. Mr white is a businessman and like all new signings we need to give him at least a season to get this right then we can start throwing our toys out the pram

WATP

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I agree totally ,Ally in an ideal world would have had HIS players in preseason that never happened because of the drawn out takeover ,the tax bill putting the skids on it at the last minute,Ally knows who isn't up to the job and is actively trying to bring better players in ,everyone knows this though and their trying to hold us to ransom in the transfer market-we cant afford to get ripped off and have to stick to a budget-the team will get better over the next few weeks but as ever Europe comes to early for Scottish clubs-before our leagues start so what chance do we have? We have to stick TOGETHER and ride the storm out ,winning the league this year gets us right into the CL so lets get behind Ally and the team and show why our clubs so great remember it could be so worse,if Whyte didn't take over when he did who was going to? And what would we be left with as a team? remember WATP

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Forget a big signen m8 aint gony happen now

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Finally someone who talks sense and supports his team. Listened to phone in last night and it was all sack Ally. Come on how many players were injured and a complete new backline, no Naismith and also Lafferty just back from injury and needs games.

It was frustrating to watch as I think that was a poor team we played but surely the structure of scottish football as a whole needs to change to give our teams more of a chance in Europe. Summer football Im afraid to say might be the answer and I have to agree with comments about Ortiz, so far he hasnt impressed. Im fine with us buying decent european players such as Jelavic and so far Goian also looks the part, but we shouldnt buy 3rd rate european players and play them over youth.

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FORGET any more signings before next wed, it ain't going to happen.....Be more WORRIED we going to cash in on McGregor or Jelavic.

NO CL revenue
NO EUROPA revenue

Whyte didnt sanction the so called big money move for Goodwillie in time for euro qualifiers. I have no doubt had Goodwillie or miller been playing last night we would be in the draw for today even possibly CL.

Yet where is the millions he had for the so called bids for goodwillie and juhasz??????
McCoist is a rookie and he is not Super anymore - he is guys? Whyte is happy having a lap dog because thats what it looks like from outside.

Stop pretending its all ok and we will soldier on. Look at the attendance and atmosphere - says it all. Trouble ahead and there will be more tears.

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Ally will always be super to me no matter what he does as a manager he will always be SUPER ALLY As stated above it will take time and i for one believe Craig White has a business plan in place to get the club we are all meant to love and follow to make money and be successful. I for one will be back at the Ibrox party at the end of the season when we show off the title winning trophy and in the words of big Marv...... Keep believing

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We had the dwindling numbers in the 80's and then the glory hunters in the 90's if your bailing out again go Rangers til I die

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26 Aug 2011 10:09:21
Forget the boy frm Madrid the best we can hope for is Murray Davidson even then he might not want to come after that crap lastnight

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Murray davidson will walk to rangers after that lasnyt he mus know himself hes guaranteed a game after the poor performance from the midfield

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Murray injured himself during the week in St. Johnstones Cup tie. Had a scan the following day and is estimated to be out for two months. I think Ally will go for him in January if he gets back to fitness and finds his form.
Le Guens Apprentice

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26 Aug 2011 09:54:13
Is anyone seriously worried at McCoist saying he's happy with the players at his disposal?

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Yes i am very worried. there are players there like Edu and Ortiz (the waiter) who dont deserve to wear the shirt. You look to the bench last night and there is no one there that will change the game when they come on. Ortiz is a winger who cant beat a man or cross a ball and I dont even know what Edu does in the middle of the park, he just wonders about trying to hide A midefielder that cannot tackle is useless.

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Think he has to say that. dont think the players would be happy if he said they were s**t lol

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He won't criticise his players but it worries me him saying he was satisfied with most aspects of last night's performance. Really? At the moment he is a puppet, if he's not happy and hurting like the rest of us he needs to grow a set and speak out about the backing he's recieving for Mr Whyte.

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In my opinion Ortiz has made a couple of telling contributions, the goal in Maribor and the pass for Laff's goal on sunday, other than that i've seen nothing that even makes me think he is good enough. Why not give Thomas Kind Bendickson a go, looked decent against Chelsea?

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26 Aug 2011 09:10:47
Disgrace to be out of europe Shows when shamrock rovers get further but proof where players playing for the shirt will get you results

Overall maybe not a bad thing as there aint big money in the europa league and wed never win it but Celtic are in the same boat where the league is a must

54 and counting

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26 Aug 2011 09:02:26
To all those "sack Ally, or Ally resign" guys out there - what else could he have done last night..... we've had enough opportunities in all the European games so far this season to have won 20 games and last night was no different. In the post match interview you could see he was hurting, and when asked about support from above his main comment related to the fact we had missed out on his number one striking target (Goodwillie - who is already scoring goals down south)... Jelavic is great, but we need a genuine striker to support him. Time for Mr Whyte to at least buy a decent striker, and show us all that he is actually behind not only Ally, but the club and team.

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Totally agree

Whyte and Smith get your finger out, you dont need SFA badges to see the team are crying out for a proven 22 goal a season striker. LIke Miller or GW.

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26 Aug 2011 08:38:36
Iny humble opinion mc coist does not have the respect of the team,can't follow orders,indiscipline but to mention a few
I blame whittekar for this whole mess,if the useless arse didn't give away the goal in 1st leg then sent off in second leg v malmo. Which got him suspended for the europa.Mc Coist needs to show who's boss and get a few of these so called heros like whittekar on the transfer list

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26 Aug 2011 09:35:42
jelevic would be a bench warmer in man utd team, hes missed 5 free headers in 3 games now hes as much 2 blame as every1 else in team for going out, the chance he missed in malmo cost us aswell is he as good as we think?

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Jelavic is the best player we have so get a life and support the club and dont harass the club

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Jela is a quality target man but target men rely as much on their own ability as those around him. I think the team hasn't been consistent enough this season. For example, sunday evening we were fairly chuffed on the performance. Last night we were devastated. We'll come good this season but i think scottish football needs a revolution. Foreign youth is my first thought.

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26 Aug 2011 09:32:48
Stop posting rubbish about gago coming to glasgow, do you people live on earth? Hes linked with chelsea and spurs, getting really worried about the s**te thats getting posted on here

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And Manchester City

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It was a spanish paper that linked us with him, however if he ever was on the radar he wont be now

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26 Aug 2011 09:29:25
As disappointing as this European campaign was, Malmo and Maribor are both better teams than Kaunas and I don't remember many fans asking for Walter Smith to be sacked after we lost to them. Give Ally a chance.

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26 Aug 2011 09:14:37
Does any1 else want 2 c joey Barton being offered megabucks as there is no transfer fee so we shoul offer more wages type of player we need, wot use fink my fellow bears?? Cranhill bear

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Barton? Are you serious? That man is on first name basis with many Crown Prosecutors.
Besides, he's off to QPR

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26 Aug 2011 08:01:50
Well well well mccoist and whyte couldn't face the press last nite after that s**t. Leave it to the boy perry this boy is more of a man than they 2 s**tbags proves mccoist is whytes puppet his hand is well and truly up mccoist ass no more transfers in watch the exedus of players out jelavic has lost interest for weeks now.

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Ally was interviewed on radio scotland after the game

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Eh I seen McCoist getting interviewed straight after the game on espn But then you probably turned the tv off with 5 mins to go in a wee huff.

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Mate your a F*****G slever, mccoist had his interview after the match and was as hurt and dissapointed as everyone else in that ground. we had little at our dissposle last nyt and we all seem to forget that. and it doesnt help that they played 11 men behind the ball either not to mention the fact the were rolling around the ground because the wind blew through there hair bunch of time wasters. and the support in that ground was shocking last night, well all thats left now is domestic titile to win and i believe that the Gers can win the lot, give the team time essoecially when your missing 6 key players watp

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Mccoist was on sky and radio scotland after the game, what were you watching/listening too

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I hesrd that too. And why would you interview the owner of a club straight after a game ?

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26 Aug 2011 01:49:21
Just back from the game. Ridiculous result for our once great club. We really are struggling at this level. It pays testament to how poor our league has become, league champions, over 37 games in our league but cannot win over a two legged tie against seemingly mediocre opposition in Malmo and Maribor et al. I loved reading the messages of support for the gaffer, I genuinely don't believe our fickle neighbours would show such support (ask mr. Strachan). We need to be strong and support our club. 17,000 empty seats is not good enough. We need Weiss in immediately, the kid loves the club and is exceptional. His signing would give us an immense lift. If no more signings are made it will become apparent that mr Whyte has let us down badly.
In all we trust.
Watp.
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26 Aug 2011 01:32:10
hey bears why is everyone so upset did u really think we were going to win ? omg when was the last time we won in europe even in cup final run to manchester we didnt win many we play not to get beat in europe and hope to score the away goal thats what malmo and maribo both done , and our luck was gonna run out , we are dreadfull in europe and simply dont belong there , both old firms need to belive this were not as big as people think, we are 2 teams which live on our history(past) with a huge fan base (all down to religon etc nothing else lets be honest) only thing we can hope for is to bring our scottish pride back by making the euros and world cup finals starting with beating checz at hampden next week and "getting a result in spain ??
peed of old firm fan

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Religion? Not for me, don't be so presumptuous. I'm as disappointed as anyone and I've not been over the moon with the entertainment on show for a good few years to be honest but I love my club and it's got heehaw to do with religion.

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I agree with the 1st reply, i thought we had came a long way from it being just about religion.

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26 Aug 2011 07:52:32
Alright ppl. I'm a really surprised Gers man this morning I honestly thought we would have dealt with that mob last night without any problems. Oh well stuff happens The main gripe for me is how much we missed Naismith This only goes to prove we need to spend a few quid on a couple of quality players to enhance our squad. I'm not of the mindset that when we have problems we should throw money at them, but needs must and we are in need of strengthening at the moment. We have been humiliated in Europe and i personally put that down to lack of preparation. The bodies should have been recruited early bells. That being said, i still feel whatever team we put out on the pitch last night should have been good enough to take care of a very average Maribor side.

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26 Aug 2011 07:51:33
Right i have had enough of sticking up for edu and broadfoot they are the 2 worst players i have seen in six years of having a season ticket and that dates back to the Paul Le Guen era, i dont have a clue what Ally sees in them as youngsters like Ness, Hutton and Mcmillian could all be playing instead of this crap we have just now.

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Players u mentioned were injured

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Not his biggest fan, but I thought Broadfoot had a good game last night.
Edu wasn't the worst on show either, but either of them aren't good enough to wear the jersey.

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Ness and McMillan were injured but Hutton should have replaced Edu

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Hutton should have replaced Edu i was screming that all game

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I don't know what game you were watching last night but Edu was probably our best midfielder last night, only player willing to try and take the ball off the other team, if all are on form then granted, Edu would be the weak link, but that comment is unwarranted for last night.

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26 Aug 2011 07:51:25
jelavic wont leave gers as he is cup tied for the europa and cl as played for gers in each stage.

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Yep but we didnt get thru so that means he can play in the group stage with any other team

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If an aston villa or a sunderland offered decent money he would be off. dont kid yourself that rangers are a bigger club, neither are celtic. Its the same with kayal and ki, if a mid table EPL club comes in then they would ditch us faster than you can say no european football.

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Listen none of the top 4 or 5 in england would touch him he aint all that ...

if he does go it will be to the likes of Villa, Newcastle, etc that's his level

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I think that due to the fact we are out on our jacksy then he could play for another team. I may be wrong but did torres not play for liverpool and chelsea in europe last season.

JG

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26 Aug 2011 07:16:15
what i can see is that walter smith turned these players into a second rate team who would have beat malmo or maribor. with macoist they are third rate. all we have to look forward to now is a boring 2 horse race to see who can stumble over the line at the finish. its depressing. ally is not the guy to get these diddies organised. plenty of square ball but with the same end product, a long ball to bounce off laff or jela. where is the spark.

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26 Aug 2011 07:12:31
allys post match interview said the way the players went about their business against maribor that we would be alright if he thinks that god help us resign ally before you really tarnish your reputation you dont seem to have a clue

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26 Aug 2011 00:43:35
Jelavic agent in contact with manchester united and his agent mentioned a figure of £13 million, why would he lie? Not saying there was a bid, but there was interest.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/rangers/2011/05/13/rangers-hitman-nikica-jalevic-manchester-united-want-to-sign-me-for-s13m-86908-23127141/

And he was rumoured to be replacing Berbatov whom United signed for £30 million-british record transfer fee at the time, so why wouldnt Jelavic be worth £13 million even if Berbatov's value has gone down a wee bit.

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He is nowhere near good enough to play for man utd.

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'was' being the operable word. been mince since then - not scored £13m worth if goals but missed £13m worth of chances

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Aw mate get a grip, u obv dont have a clue how all this works. Im sure Man Utd have indeed had Jelavic watched. They were up looking at Izaguirre and Kayal aswell, but thats it. The top clubs in england will not take a player from the old firm on spl form alone. Man Utd would want to see how these players would fair in the champions league at least 1st or they would wait til they were playin in the epl with a smaller team 1st. How can Jelavic or any player at Celtic be valued at 10 mil plus with the opposition they play against. Its ridiculous.

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Most of it is paper talk , his agent said. Agents always talk up there clients . rangers are happy as it puts extra value on our player so if anyone is thinking about putting a bid in starting price is over 10 mil.

get real not 1 of our players or celtics players can every get into a Man Utd team.

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Sell him and pump every penny back in to the team. The guy has undoubted quality but flatters to deceive at times and is inconsistant. And clearly one man does not make a team... He's surrounded by passengers with the exception of a few. I think you can tell already the guys head is down and he's looking at pastures new so let him crack on £13 million... I'd bite the hand of them.

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£13 ? after last nights performance we'll be lucky to get £1.3 for him. A night when he should have stood up to be counted and he was useless....like most of the others.

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Why would SAF buy any player who is cup tied for European football, utter p**S

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Jelavic is undoubtably a class act, but the man REALLY frustrates me with some of his flicks and attempted overhead kicks.. Fair enough if we're winning, then try and score the spectacular, but when we desperately need a goal, the man needs to cut out the extravagent and keep it simple..

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Jelivic isn't worth anything like that kind of money if he was we would still b in champions league if you watch the games again count how many sitters he's missed good player but not Man Utd class the players had enough chances to win 4 games last nite and now we know why Healy doesn't get a game the damage was done in pre season when whyte never spent the money to strengthen the squad ally will be the scapegoat but it's whytes fault and we can forget getting any new signings in now even though the team is despretly needing some qaulity :(( steph

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Why is a fable from may being regurgitated?

"May 13 2011 Alan Marshall " (copied and pasted from your link)

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1 goal in 4 european games against amateur opposition. Yes mate, yer havin a laugh, dream on. Maybe Real Madrid will out bid them or probably Man City will blow the 2 out the water. see, i can talk mince as well, he will take the english prem by storm. Anyway back to the real world, thank god celtic r rotten as well and big Dan will lead us to 4 in a row. watp

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On his current form Jelavic isn't worth jack Really off the boil along with a few others namely Davis and Naisy. Need to get their finger oot pronto

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13th May 2011 you muppet Why bring up old news? Get a grip

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13 million? if you believe that then you most be off your fooking rocker mate. Did you not watch last night.

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26 Aug 2011 00:34:26
Any of yous that love wiess go check his Twitter is this a man that loves rangers

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He wished Slovan Bratislava luck & Rangers you're getting mixed up with Slovenian Maribor & Slovakia

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His last post is obviously talking about his dads team Slovan as they were playing Roma

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Look before you leap

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What did he do last season,he kissed the badge, waved a scarf and lets be honest was a average player,

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Fair point guys my bad should have researched a bit more hope he comes back Ortiz is not the answer good squad player

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26 Aug 2011 00:31:48
here is the palyer who want's to play for us and could of helped us win against maribor, el hadj douif would you rather him as a squad player who could of played on the right insted of ortiz or would you rather ortiz, Doiuf all the way for me

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No way. Waste of time

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Diouf your having a laugh The money he was on and the Performances he put in were ridiculous, never seen a more over rated player do next to nothing at ibrox except give the media stories to write about

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They are both rubbish. Rather have wiess.

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You are kidding? the guy is mince he's the last person we need right now, weve got enough players hiding from the ball as it is, we dont need another one

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26 Aug 2011 00:31:05
We should have blew that 15 million as soon as it was deemed available in bringing in Goodwillie, Verhoek and Jurhasz. Not to mention we cant even afford to buy a young lad from St Johnstone Then we'd have been in the Champions league allowing us to spen a further 15 if we desired. Our shoddy dealings in the transfer have cost us the start of a golden era and its a toss up who will win the league this year as Celtic are just as bad. absolute shocking performance tonight.

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What 15 million time and time again the budget was 20 million over 5 seasons So if Ally blew 15 million this month he would have 5 left to last him another 5 years get a grip of reallity

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26 Aug 2011 00:27:45
nows the time for whyte and mccoist to make a statement i heard today were linked with fernando gago real madrid willing to sell him for 2m plus bang in a 3m bid for him pay him what he wants make him feel like a superstar make him know how he would be adored at ibrox ive seen this boy play he is class with great creative vision dont sign anyone else get him in then ill start taking mr whyte seriously

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Do you think fernando gago will want to join us after that performance i think not

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Get this into ur head, gago will not b signin for rangers, there's no chance

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Absolute nonsense....£3m +£70k+ a week.....do you not understand how our club got into financial difficulty?

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Oh aye the big 5m+ rated superstars will want to come now

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Try a cut price of 8 million mate

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He won't want to join but a serious wage offer too joey Barton as he is free

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Gago? Get a grip mate. Yeah we missed the boat big time Embarassment to say the least, Coisty aint the answer and the mhanky mhob are finding out that ex-players in management is not the answer. Dalglish may prove to be the exception

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Gago from Real Madrid to the Bears, no european football, playing mince opposition every week don't think it will happen do you?

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There must be two fernando gagos' because the fernando gago that plays for real Madrid would never come near rangers grasp.
Utter BS

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Hahahha you are a fool boy. yes and celtic might still sign wayne bridge, bellamy, santa cruz and every fooking irish player on the planet. i am a celtic fan btw.

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26 Aug 2011 00:24:58
Dorin Goian - £700,000
Lee Wallace - £1.5m
Juanma Ortiz - £500,000
Carlos Bocanegra - £400,000
Alejandro Bedoya - £400,000
Matt McKay - £300,000
Kyle Bartley - Loan

Out - £3.8m

Bougherra- £1,700,000
Adam money- £800,000
In: £2.5m

Net spent-£1.3m
That just shows that Ally isn't getting enough backing from Whyte

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Ye forgetting the £3m that went into the stadium?

And the improved contracts for McGregor, Whittaker, Davis, Wylde??

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Whyte doesn't choose who they buy. bougy wanted to leave and the adam money is a bonus

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Wasn't ortiz a free transfer? Which would validate your point even more of he was

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I make it we have 2.7 million left according to 4 million budget to be spent over 5 years.. don't know if that includes wages mind

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Ortiz was a free

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Ortiz wasn't free ffs....

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26 Aug 2011 00:24:55
I know this might sound crazy but I would love to see Graeme souness come in as manager again and boot these player's lacklustre a**** into touch, we need someone with a bit of fire who doesn't put up with any of this s***

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Or Advocaat. The return of The Little General would whip a few of them into shape

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I'm having this SOOOOOUUUNESSSS

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Souness would be great.... but he wouldn't come with no money to spend Besides give Ally a chance.

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26 Aug 2011 00:15:25
Wouldn't surprise me if we lose jela now. We've no Europe no money comin in apart from what we get domestically which isn't a lot. We'll run at massive loses this year. Won't attract players so can forget any signings.
S-bear

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What would give jelavic the right to jump ship because we have no european football? He's partly to blame like every other player and member of staff. So instead should be giving everything to make sure we have a chance to make amends next season

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26 Aug 2011 00:11:47
Ally McCoist says he doesnt feel like we need to do any more in the transfer market ? Really Ally cos from where im standing the team is crying out for a natural right winger and a creative mifielder. Only players that should get any credit tonight are Wylde, Perry and Goian

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Why not come out and just say iv used all the transfer kitty up , isn't that what the statement really says , hindsight is a great thing but not getting another striker is and indeed has cost us greatly.

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We also need a leader because as good a player as davis is, and he is our best player, he's not a captain. Another striker should have been brought in 3 weeks ago and his name was goodwillie

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Wylde? Can't beat the 1st man witha cross and can't get past a player wylde?? Healy should be released that miss was that bad and why did we leave 4 at the back?v tactics were worrying Stop blaming whyte jelavic is worth more than their team Davis isn't a leader at all

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Wylde can't cross the ball, i really don't see what the fuss is about with him, he can run fast and thats it, no composure, no delivery, both Perry & Goian, along with Bocanegra were posted missing at the Maribor goal, with Goian having pushed to far forward trying to close play down, however only succeeding in leaving defense vulnerable. Granted apart from that catastophic blunder he played well.

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26 Aug 2011 00:20:32
Its a sad day when Shamrock rovers get further in europe than Rangers...

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Fair play to them at least they got through their tie unlike us. If McCoist is given time we will be back opts just a learning curve for him. And don't start the Timothy s**te

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Luck of the draw

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26 Aug 2011 00:07:06
total smokescreen going on regarding signings imo, Ally had whole of last season to come up with potential signings, which apparently ended in a rich list & a poor list .. i don't think he's being backed up for his choices... it' sad.. for this season so far, not pretty, but i do think business wise rangers will grow worldwide, well that's the target... heard pamela anderson is on a free transfer, she's USA & may offer more up front

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Cant be any wors than edu

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Pamela Anderson's Canadian

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26 Aug 2011 00:06:08
Edu is the worst player ever to have played as many games for Rangers as he has.

we should rescind his contract, not play the useless clown every time he is fit.

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To be fair, i thought he played better than Ortiz

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Yeah your right edu has cost us 4 games in europe. What did davis do? Lafferty?? We lost 2 a pub team so stop blaming 1 guy, blame the so called top players No creativity and that's not edu's job

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Over the 4 games against malmo & maribor naismith miseed at least 3 cahnces 2 of then were open goals at ibrox so yeah thats the fault of Edu. Jelavic missed away to malmo when through on the keeper and again away to maribor with ony the keeper to beat again must be Edu to balme for that. Don't even start on the cahnces Lafferty & Healy missed last night

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He kept giving away silly free kicks, couldnt pass, enough is enough he needs to be dropped

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If he did his job steven Davis wouldn't be sitting so deep and trying a mop up job and trying to link with forwards, the space goian got caught in last night was where edu is ment to be a be helping defenders, guy can't tackle, can be lazy, stands off players allowing space and struggles to make the basic pass, every game he has played we have lacked in the middle, I hope McKay can be the answer and have a mid of naisy, Davis, McKay and wylde,

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Ortiz was a mile and a half worse than Edu, did nothing but foul all night, should have been off 10 minutes after it started. I just think Edu's confidance is shot, but Ortiz is Sh*t

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25 Aug 2011 23:34:27
Which big name player or players will be sold first to balance the books now we have no european football, it's business at the end of the dat.

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Other than jelavic who is a 'big name' to sell? was at the game tonight. half the under 19's could have done better than the 'big names' playing passes backwards or not playing at all

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Not got any big players they are all flops

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25 Aug 2011 23:28:54
I have faith in Ally and in Rangers, a lot has been said about Craig Whyte and the money he has or hasn't got, thats a debate for another time, I will say that it wasn't Craig Whyte that missed those chances in the Malmo and the Maribor ties, neither was it McCoist (if it was we would be in the CL group stages) - the match stats for this evening are on the BBC website, 17 shots on target = 1 goal, It's not the board or the manager thats at fault for this, its simply down to the fact that some of our strikers tonight couldn't hit a cow in the erse with a stick if they were holding it by the tail, poor agreed, but ffs get off the managers back

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If our midfield had been a bit better we would have done a bit better up front. not going to point any fingers as i think enough has been said already but we just wernt good enough from back to front

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Completely spot on.

GDog.

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It is the end of august and we still have not signed a striker that would not have missed them, it is their fault. We are rangers and have one striker on the books.

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Your argument is self-defeating as 17 attempts on target and only 1 goal suggests a poor standard of player and a team in desperate need of a decent goal scorer,yet you defend Whyte's decision not to buy one.
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25 Aug 2011 23:29:35
Wallace - £1.5m
Goin - £500k
Bocanegra -£500k
Davis - £3.5m
Edu - £2.5m
Ortiz - £500k
Jelavic - £4.2m
Lafferty - £3.75m

That's £18m without counting £2m for Whittaker, £1.9m for Naismith, £1m for Papac, £2.25m for McCulloch and we cant beat Malmo and Maribor in 4 games. Check what Malmo / Maribor pay for players and wages and if you still think it's Whyte's fault and not the manager suggest you all start thinking with the head and not the heart. Ally is and will ALWAYS be a legend for Gers - just never, ever a manager.

Time to call this a day and start again. IF Ally had more money may be different but to beat those teams he had plenty and didnt cut it. GO NOW

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Thats 16.9mill you have there and goian cost 800k and bocanegra cost 300k

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What are you on about?

Under Whyte we have spent £3.6 million on 6 flop players, I repeat £3.6 million on 6 players - hardly glamour money.

And then you just added players who have been at Rangers for years, and you don't even know what they are worth.

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Ally is like Big John Grieg a Rangers legend but a pish manager time to go or get someone in to help him

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Your way off mate. Bad start yes. Sacked? Get a grip.

GDog

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We were rotten sure but with comments like that factually inacurate as they are only prove ur no true blue.

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Other than score the goals himself, McCoist couldn't have done much else. With the quality of player currently at the club, and granted we haven't seen some of them play yet, both McCoist and Durrant could get a game if they worked on their fitness. Let's be honest McCoist, and the fans, have been badly let down by the players.... guys getting sent off for stupid infringements, missing sitters and just not showing up. One would have thought that Healy, who has been sitting on the bench getting paid for doing nothing, would have relished the opportunity to make a name for himself, but all he did was miss a complete sitter and foul everyone he managed to get near. Davis gets found out in Europe, he isn't a captain and hasn't performed in one European game. McCoist's biggest failure to-date, on his own, has been the signing of Ortiz who clearly has nothing to offer Rangers......

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