Rangers Rumours Archive September 19 2016

 

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19 Sep 2016 19:36:39
The other day I posted about what happens between Barton and Halliday. I was speaking to my source again tonight and he told me how it all kicked off.

There was a bounce game involving some U20 players, and JB kept the on calling one of them the wrong name in a derogatory fashion. (The u20 player shall remain anonymous)
The U20 player then nutmegged JB and challenged him to call him the name again, after this JB went through the back of the young boy injuring him.

This is when Halliday stepped in and had a go at Barton for the way he was acting and it all kicked off from there.

Again, on passing on what I was told from my mates brother. He was involved in the game.



19 Sep 2016 20:27:42
Could you imagine if souness or John Brown were there it wouldn't matter how hard Barton thought he was he wouldn't be hard enough.



19 Sep 2016 20:35:26
I could imagine this being an accurate account of events, given JB has previous for bullying younger players, and the fact his over inflated ego wouldn't take a nutmeg from a young fit lad. If it is the case, then good on AH for standing up to him.



19 Sep 2016 21:07:51
Absolute bollocks.



19 Sep 2016 21:11:24
I think that everyone is jumping on the "get JB out" bandwagon. We all knew of JB's history before he signed no one actually knows what's happened, I still think he has a lot to give! Yes he has had a slow start but so has most of the players but to ban him for 3 weeks I personally don't think is the answer.



19 Sep 2016 21:38:03
Thanks for the reply Hooly. I can assure this isn't "absolute bolloks" as you put it.
Just for the record I think JB will come good. He is undoubtedly a decent player and in time his quality will shine through.



19 Sep 2016 22:25:00
Gave Barton the benefit of the doubt when he joined but either way it's just proof he hasn't really changed! It's obvious there were no major dramas at Burnley because they had good form all year and was all easy with nobody questioning him! Was supposed to lead by example on and off the park but instead has embarrassed himself in trademark fashion. Waste of space and we're better without him!



19 Sep 2016 23:18:54
It was young josh jeffries.



20 Sep 2016 00:38:21
Yea that's right Negri, JB kept calling him Jock (the English way of speaking about Scottish people)

Then when young Josh pegged him, JB took the nip and clattered him.



20 Sep 2016 08:05:06
I find it very unfortunate, given the journey we've been on, that all news from the club is about Joey Barton, an overrated, under performing footballer who has been a resounding disappointment in every respect. He is not the foundation for development and growth of our club. We are better than that.



20 Sep 2016 08:25:48
Are you sure? So a young lad and Halliday the "Protector" takes massive hump about being called 'Jock" and this then leads to what is now being portrayed as the biggest fall out in Football history and potentially a huge financial risk if we have tp pay Barton off. Just don't get it; there must be something more sinister. Either way we are back talking about non football issues but this major distraction, which MW and the Club don't cover themselves in glory.



20 Sep 2016 10:35:08
Absolute pish.

Our manager couldn't take any criticism that's what it is, granted the way it was done wasn't fantastic i. e on the training ground and not in private. That's all.



20 Sep 2016 10:56:33
cant see him getting to play for us again to be honest .
he could have turned out good for us but played way too slow the games he has played but he is a goof footballer but is also a bit od a d*ck as we all knew before he signed.



20 Sep 2016 09:50:27
He called him Jock a few times and it was seen as a bit or a joke, but after a while a few senior player told JB to wrap it and call him by his real name.

I have no doubt things escalated from that, and one we argument led to another and things blew up.



20 Sep 2016 13:46:47
Apparently he is 'hated' in the dressing room (according to some guy on Five Live), don't think it has done much for the team spirit.



20 Sep 2016 14:23:44
Back when Souness was manager I played with Rangers for a short time. The exact same senerio happened to me and the Gaffer. We had a bounce game after training and I nutmegged the Gaffer. Next thing I know I am on the floor. He totally came after me and took me out off the ball. lol
The difference back then was that it was excepted and normal for him to pay back. I was later told if I ever embarrass the Gaffer again I would be docked.



20 Sep 2016 15:57:13
Josh Jeffries I heard is the u20 player.



20 Sep 2016 16:45:28
Kevin1984 you are right. Everything I've said regarding this post is accurate.



20 Sep 2016 16:52:13
It's normal practice for senior players to play harder at practice games against younger players, my son was harshly fouled from behind by Souness after he beat him and one of the young players complained to Mad Dog McGregor that his wages were short £5 and McGregor stated you embarrassed the gaffer by nutmegging him. So this has been going on with teams for years no big deal. But apparently this is a big deal I don't know why. My son has even worse stories that he experienced at Aberdeen and Coventry City.



20 Sep 2016 16:10:22
His publisher must be delighted.
Sport Direct don't own a publisher do they?



21 Sep 2016 09:59:47
Its funny Boydy talking about Bartons lack of application and professionalism. 2 seasons ago in his second spell at ibrox, he must have weighed about 16st, and could barely run 10 yards lol.



27 Sep 2016 13:46:33
If the above is true then well done to Halliday but what the hell was our Captain doing. Butcher, Gough, Amoruso and a host of other past captains wouldn't have allowed this to happen. Wallace unfairtunately is void of leadership qualities as can be seen every game we play!



19 Sep 2016 11:17:02
Barton has been suspended by Rangers for 3 weeks and told to stay away from club.



19 Sep 2016 11:26:46
Its an absolute shambles mate, I am sick of it. We are never out of the headlines for one reason or another!



19 Sep 2016 11:27:07
At least Rossiter and Crooks will get more game time now!



19 Sep 2016 13:04:32
It's a shambles should have already been dealt with will be 4 weeks without game time for a guy already not up to speed and struggling for match fitness deal with it one way or the other and move on this helps no one another indication to me that the boss has no clue.



19 Sep 2016 13:10:24
That is the way disciplinary actions work. They now have time to reflect on what happened, at which time, a date for a new meeting will take place. I don't understand why you think MW has no clue, as correct procedures have to be in place.



19 Sep 2016 13:37:16
But who does a 3 week suspension help? Would Walter Smith have done it no it would have been dealt with there and then this stuff happens at all levels of football deal with it move on were now paying our top earner to sit at home and fall further behind on fitness, have u saw the shambles were in that's why I think he has no clue some of his decisions are baffling, guess not to you tho?



19 Sep 2016 14:03:30
Can someone explain the benefit to anyone a 3 week suspension serves? Absolutely pointless.



19 Sep 2016 15:10:35
Lads, Clearly we do not know the full picture. We will not get to know the full picture in the near future either, no doubt Barton will come out at a later date.

I think the 3 week period giving time to think about what happened is just a guise until Rangers assess their position.

I think you could see that the style and flair was back from the players on Sat and I think that was a kickback from having no Barton. Yes we failed to score but we created and defended well at times. Let this one just play out, back the team and in my opinion no Barton will mean a full time return to free flowing football. Nothing against the guy but he did slow down everything we done.



19 Sep 2016 15:11:27
As far as I'm concerned this is shambolic! Barton shouldn't have been suspended at all! Smacks of Barton be in made a scapegoat for the teams shortfallings! Terrible management.



19 Sep 2016 15:24:25
Guys joey burtons rangers career ended the day of the incident when he undermined everyone and behaved like a couple fool he will never wear a rangers shirt again good riddance I say.



19 Sep 2016 16:20:50
Barton had to be suspended. If I shouted and swore at my manager or boss then I would be sent home from work until a disciplinary was arranged. He then gave an unsactioned radio interview where he publicly stated that he didn't agree with the way the Club had dealt with the situation. And this was before the club had had time to deal with his misdemenour internally. Just because he has a few million Twitter and Facebook followers doesn't give him the right to act as he sees fit. He is not bigger than the Club, they pay his wages, he is an employee and needs to act as such. As far as I can see from what has been reported he looks guilty of gross misconduct, which under normal circumstances would be a sackable offence.



19 Sep 2016 15:41:52
No man is bigger than the club and this is exactly the point MW and Rangers are trying to make.



19 Sep 2016 16:31:25
this has nothing to do with the club barton caused the problem the club can only respond to the situation that barton has caused its not a big enough oence to rip up his contract but hopeully owing to the length o the ban someone may come in or him and he can released by mutual agreement that's my take on it.



19 Sep 2016 17:36:42
barton will never play for us again let him stew til january and get a fee for him no matter the baggage that comes with him someone will take him, whole episode has bn handled poorly the fact we have someone in the ranks leaking these things to the press is just as worryin as bartons behaviour.



19 Sep 2016 18:03:21
3 weeks allows Rangers to follow proper Employment Law. Any further misdemeanors in that period will escalate this to a final warning and he will be sacked without a substantial settlement. MW andRangers are simply protecting themselves and this is the right thing to do. The matter has actually been handled well. We can ill afford substantial settlement cases.



19 Sep 2016 18:36:05
Barry Ferguson and Allan McGregor got a 2 week suspension when Walter Smith was the manager so it's not unheard off. He obviously doesn't accept any wrong doing so we should firstly try and come to some sort of settlement to his contract and if not then just pay up the rest of his contract like we were going to pay him anyway and you've got rid off him. Obviously a bad influence to have about the place.



19 Sep 2016 19:08:54
Barton done the same thing to Alan shearar in 2009, very similar circumstances, think he's trying to get some publicly to sell his book? I couldn't stand the guy before he came to ibrox, gave him a chance and he's blown it, good riddance all I am saying.



 
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