Rangers Rumours Archive February 18 2012

 

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18 Feb 2012 23:48:27
I heard from a very reliable source who is high up in the tax offices.That Rangers will be allowed to work with HMRC by paying off debt in yearly installments,but they will be left with nothing for transfers etc and will be constantly monitored for irregularities,It will be a hard number of years ahead,But we will survive.

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No chance whyte wd rather sink us n start again than pay hmrc think under bankrupt law they can only hold u for 3 or 5 years so dont see hmrc gettin much

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Yes and wat wen we dont have 11 players because we cant buy anyonne

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Whyte is no longer running the club the administrators are legally in charge. I think most football fans will accept that to avoid liquidation if rangers pay back all they owe over a reasonable time then that will be acceptable.

No deals no preferential treatment, and if found to have gained an unfair advantage RFC should be stripped of the relevant titles and trophies. This seems a fair solution

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Hahah.. "very reliable source who is high up in the tax offices" just decided to tell you the EXACT details of a multi multi million pound deal with HMRC. yeah...that will happen.

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Why would any rangers fan want the club to sink we better paying off in instalments to hmrc thather than lose our history

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Wait and see,the demise of RFC has many repercussions,This goes way higher than you think.The saving of RFC will be used as political capital in these days of the union being broken up etc.
I don't agree with government interference and feel that Rangers have been on the wrong path for some time.They will be taught a lesson but there will be a deal brokered with HMRC and RFC will be taken over by a consortium who have many backers, lurking in the shadows.

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So when was it decided Rangers lost the case

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..At this point in time Rangers are oweing HMRC Ł9 million paye and vat...until the judgement on the so called big tax case is made public we wont be making any deals imo...if the big tax case goes in our favour and by that i mean our liability is maybe less than Ł20million say then i think we will be bought out hopefully by a consortium of fans...my biggest worry is the situation with Ticketus and the missing Ł24 odd million...apparently that represents a large chunk of the season ticket money for the next four years...would,nt like to be in Craig Whytes shoes..

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Yea.was just on the news there(smooth radio),,can pay few million every year over numerous years.

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As usual a smattering of knowledge and a load of rubbish. If a CVA'S is agreed this is a debt percentage paid down over an agreed period. If this is agreed it sets aside the current position within the CVA and the business can go forward with the fresh investment that is required and is not used to pay down old debt.

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Lets Just think about this deal?. The Club runs at a 10 million a year loss at present, The revenue from every season ticket sold in the next 4 years belongs to Ticketus, Most of the catering rights have been sold off. Even if Rangers win the big tax case they are still over Ł30 million in debt. Where are they going to Find this extra cash for HMRC?, Lets face it for the next 10 years the club will struggle, This once mighty ship has sunk, I just hope those who caused it Sink with it.

A Low Level HMRC employee

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Cheers Tim!

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High up in the tax office , i take it he's stealing the lead off the roof then

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Plus we haven't lost tax case yet so why would there be negotiations about how we pay back something we don't know if we owe yet?

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Its in national newspapers today so HA to all the doubters

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I agree HMRC will now work with us ro come to a deal (xp in the Ł) and also arrange payment plan.

They will not be permitted to put additional pressure on us going forward as rules and regs state they must show same restrictions to all companies and cant place 1 business under more scrutiny.

As for transfers comment, this is nit ever going to be true. So long as we meet any payment plans, no one can dictate what happens to our monies after that

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Stop talking crap u dont have any source away and think up something decent to post

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They wont get a dime outta us.

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Yeah right. high up in the tax offices? you mean window cleaner on the top floor? stop posting crap! weeks away from decision yet!

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Very believeable, Rangers will survive in 1 form or another, that is a fact, big problem is what kind of future will we have with no investment? that's the worry going forward.

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If we lost the case then yes we could only pay in instalments no way could we pay that
amount straight away.I would rather see the club pay its dues and be skint than starting a phoenix club and loosing all our history.

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At least the tax man got paid his money from us, even if it was from the biscuit tin, how the mighty have fallen.

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How about all the years Celtic lied about their gate receipts, when it was obvious the crowds were greater than they claimed. Will the titles they won during that period be taken off them ? They never won their 9 in a row honestly. Neil Lennon should think before he opens his trap !

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Simple question, when we had the cash flow problems, did we go into administration. Answers starting with NO will be acceptable.

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Would rather liquidate the club and start up a new Rangers. The HMRC can go to hell

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Aye fergus mccann saved celtic n yous all showed some gratitude to him, bood him oot of parkheed aye good loyal support haha total joke more like

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18 Feb 2012 23:01:57
this ll prob not get posted comes from a copper m8 , a dci at pitt street most defonitley no charges against craig whyte bt maybe tax issues nothin illegal as tax year not over yet n money has bn diverted into parent company and is still there , thus leaving rfc with nothing, reason for this is to protect it from taxman . sit tight tho fellow bears this got bit to run good turn out today btw 11 games left , lets do the same n maybe team will pick up

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Protect the money that rangers owe the tax man *from* the tax man? Do none of you pay UK taxes? Does it not bother you that your club is ripping UK taxpayers off?

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Good stuff , 23pts ahead by the nxt time you play, Party at ipox . If you cant sell your tickets we'll take them to help you's out........Stevie

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Craig White was banned from being a company director for 5 years for putting assets of a company "out of reach" of the creditors. Is this not ringing alarm bells!

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Not paying uk taxes lets have it right if u got home fae ur work to a letter fae inland revenue saying u owe 10 years of taxes n were takin everything youve got , do u think thats fair , if ebts were so wrong then why has it took 10 years to relise it hmrc are a disgrace as harry rednapp proved last week there a total shambles , waitin til a Ł50 m debts ran up thats wots doesnt sit smright wi me

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Actually it was 7 years and it was for failing to provide accounts for a liquidated company

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Ban him again then. Everyone knew all of this. Why not bleat on about what probs amounts to billions that all the smart arse lawyers have sneaked away and continue to for stacks of the big businesses in the uk. Theres a long way to go with this and it might not be as clear cut as some folk would like to think.
Company i work with had a scheme not so many years back that they openly spoke of as a tax loophole as bonus scheme. Why so surprised with whats going ???

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Aye stevie use might aswel take them use spend most of ur time on the rangers page anyhow....govan_front87

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The club should pay its taxes. EBT's used in the fashion rangers applied them have NEVER been legal. Given that it doesn't matter how long it took HMRC to catch up with this evasion an offence is an offence. Just pay up

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If what the orginal poster posted is true, then thats a criminal offence, and maybe his mate at pitt street should be considering that as a matter worth investigating

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"EBT's used in the fashion rangers applied them have NEVER been legal. Given that it doesn't matter how long it took HMRC to catch up with this evasion an offence is an offence. Just pay up"

Crap!!

Since you have all the facts why did you not save the taxpayers money and tell the First Tier Tribunal they didnt need to hear this case because you had already decided on a verdict!
The only thing you are right about is any taxes due must be paid.

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If the money still there then wheres the criminal offence ???? dont make sense

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For God sake wake up, there no money there, you couldn't pay the dues to the tax man that were due as paye etc for the past ten months, thats why you are in adminstration, so how the hell are you going to pay the first tier penalty.

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Ed can`t you put unfeckin before believabale as it would help quite alot before we would comment plz plz,LOL,i just can`t enough HAIL HAIL

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Its probably true that Craig Whyte has not broken the law. This however is not the problem with him.

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Your sayin the money not there sorry but well wait n see if the money not there then thats a massive fraud bt please bear in mind the bbc and daily rebel are guessing n if the money is there n cw got it all arwn up he'll make a fortune in defamation cases , maybe reinvest it in us haha

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18 Feb 2012 21:11:24
2 Scottish Billionairs Tom Hunter
& Jim Nicol waiting in the wings to
take over the club .

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They have already said theres no interest but would love them 2 pairing up we would be one of europes best teams in a few years
AndyBear98

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Presume you mean JIM McCOLL

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Would be ideal but as above cant see it.. craig+babybear

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I wnt the fans to own at least 50% this must never happen again

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There is no chance of either men to invest in rangers. yes their rangers men but they have both stated time and again that they wouldn't get involved in football. my guess is that someone unknown to us all will turn up and bail us out.

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Bail us out like Craig Whyte did??

CC

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Is it jim mccoll you mean?
i believe the tom hunter bit as he has always had an interest in rangers and david murray has twice knocked bids back from him, he is a keen philanthropist and believes a man who dies rich, dies disgraced. so may put money in to save our club. but craig whyte is in just now to clean up the mess before anyone makes any bids.

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I agree with whyte being the clean up guy , fall guy if u like

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Tom hunter wouldent invest in rangers he is not a football fan and there is no money 2 b made. even in the smallest companies he invests in he demands to see a profit

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No they're not!
If you are going to post cr*p can you at least get their names right fool!!

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Look let's stop this s**t none of them would be interested in us no money to be made ... Kenny

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Tom hunter is a business man and would not touch the club. Any money he invests now is to charities

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18 Feb 2012 21:03:43
rumour in Germany that a German consortium are ready to make a bid for Rangers but not until tax issue is settled , consortium come from Bavaria

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I have also heard this from my brother in army in Germany

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This is a new rumour to me but, that's not to say that there is no substance to it.

Paul Murray used to be employed with Deutsche Bank and no doubt will still have some good contacts in Germany. Could this possibly be part of his plans?

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Think you might have had too much German Beer on Saturday, why the hell would anyone from Germany be interested in a minor football team from a minor league.

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They're not interested in a minor club like Celtic, that much is true. But they are interested in a massive club like Rangers.

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Massive club.... Which parts of what has been going on don't you understand.
No Money.
Bannedfrom signing any players.
Owe a large amount of money (9 million) to the tax man.
Owe a large amount of money to other SPL clubs.
About to make several members of staff redundant.
Lose of ten points in the league.
Probably no European football (again) next season.
Even times in the Irish league are doing better than the mighty (sorry former mighty) Glasgow Rangers.
Minor team in a minor league,now Celtic are the sharks in a gold fish pond.

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This has got to be a timmy wind up. think about it. germans.
poor effort

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18 Feb 2012 20:47:12
lennon no happy enough getting a title handed to him,hes now wanting to go as far back as 2003 n have us stripped of titles we were good enough to win n they weren't good enough!!
what type of man is so bitter n desperate to even suggest this?!! really disappointed that a man in lennons position felt the need to even mention this pathetic opinion.
j1985

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True what a tit he is graeme

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Doesn't surprise me. Bitter Lennon has no integrity. Delighted to hear this irritates him.

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I think lennon is right to bring up this point you won titles and cups unfairly.

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He is pathetic,he said we cheated?? cheating means breaking the rules,it does not say in spl rules that ebts cant b used

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Not bitter if its proved the titles where won because you spent money that was not your ,surely dignity FC will hand the titles back

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Lennon has absolutely no class or dignity as celtic manager. could u imagine ally going on twitter and talking about our biggest rivals. neil just keep ur noes out of our business and concentrate on your lot!

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I think you'll find he said, if you are found guilty of cheating. And FYI, he was asked the question.

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He shouldn't have said anything at all. like most celtic fans he is more concerned with talking about rangers than his own team.

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You cheated.simple.pay the consequencies.artybhoy

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The man has no class and no toothpaste ger1952

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Hard For ally to use twitter and eat a pie

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Carry on with your infatuation with Lennon while your 'Owner' previous owner and clueless manager run your club into oblivion. Then blame er er emmm Aye LENNON!

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Aye and Pompey will hand the FA cup back and Man U will pay up the 700 million debt as soon as. Dream on

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Btw if you see the interview Lennon dont say anything about your titels. However when being probed about titel being devalued. He said it would not and if it was devalued then he would ask Questions about your title wins ie when we almost went bust and to be fair you were sining players by ileagl means at the time

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By illegal means ??? can u please explain that comment didnt celtic nearly fold in the early 90s tax case 2001 onwards thats 10 years apart if that wot u mean by "illegal means" u dont make sense timothy

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Should all teams not robbed of trophy's not be entitled to a grievence

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Lennon is totally 100% correct EBT's and side contracts break the league rules. Just admit you cheated

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Ger1952 am wi you buddy he needs to brush. graeme

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Not bitter if its proved the titles where won because you spent money that was not your ,surely dignity FC will hand the titles back


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It doesnt say in the spl rules that you cant use ebts but it does say in buisness practise that you must pay taxes,paye etc

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Lmao, handed to him? You threw away a 15 point lead and are behind by 2 wins even when you take the 10 point deduction out of it, will be more by tonight... Just face it, you cheated to win your titles and you will lose this one fair an square.
Aussie Liam.

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Haha, what a load of crap. Look at the debt that Barcelona have, will we start taking all of their trophies off them?

Ps Do Celtic not have a Ł7m debt so does that mean that they are using the banks money to win the league this year?

The Pilot!

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What about the days when parkhead was full and the attendance was announced as 30k ? Ware did all the money for the rest off the fans go and did Celtic pay tax on it ?

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So scott macdonald cheated him as well when scored 2 goals on the last day .ginger whinger no wonder people dont like him

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What planet r some of you bottons on Man Utd never cheated tax man , Lennon bitter ! LOL take a look at most of your posters FFS get a life..........DH

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I think you will find we are only being investigated for using EBT payments as have numerous clubs in the UK.

Not been mentioned that we were cheating the SPL. Only the tax man.

Have a bit of class and admit, the team we put out was simply better and deserved the titles and cups.

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I think the point Lennon is trying to make is that the players who won the league were paid with "ill gotten gains" and as such an illegal act was committed. Marseilles were stripped of a champion's league victory for alleged bribery in their domestic game, I don't think there was any proof they cheated in the Champion's league itself! {Ed001's Note - I am sure there was, but more to the point is that they qualified for the competition by paying other teams to lose.}

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Don't think its lemons place to talk about rangers whether he was asked question or not. A dignified response surely would have been no comment. But as always even when on cusp of winning a title all Celtic want to talk about is being cheated. Not happy with all dubious decisions going their way and getting a free ride into Europa league. They want titles taken away from the likes of Marvin Andrews and David weir. Dispicable. Shame on Celtic. Disgusting.

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Lennon should know better...thats my point. as should that peter lawell. commenting on matters to do with rangers being manager n chief exec of our bitter rivals is stupid n dangerous. lennon went through a hell of a time last season, granted through no fault of his own, but comments like this will just give they same idiots as last season a motive to start all this s##t again.
j1985

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It is not just Celtic who were cheated here! but all clubs in the same league.
What Lennon says is 100% correct. ..and more managers should also be saying it...but read what he said..it was as a response to the claims being made by "others" that Celtics title win this year will be "tainted"...thats why he responded and was correct to so do .... Celtic have done nothing but get themselves to the top of the league winning football matches and paying their taxes...the only honourable thing anyone associated with Rangers can do in this situation is to apologise to all other football clubs in their league, promise it will never be appowed to happen again and seek to pay all dues no matter how long it takes or how painful..Rangers caused it so Rangers need to resolve it .

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DH your a tool pal. accept lennons comments for what they were..bitter n provocative!! some posts on here may be bitter but they are not published in newspapers or from guys in charge of a football club. simple fact is lennon had no right to respond to any question in the way he did. a man in charge of a club like selik should know better than to make comments like he did about a situation that has zero effect on his club....so says peter lawell anyway eh?!!
j1985 {Ed001's Note - I think you are looking for reasons to hate him personally. He answered a question, nothing more. He is paid to answer questions from journalists, it is part of his job, try not to read too much into it.}

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I don't believe any honest rangers fan will think Celtics title will be tainted. But on what planet does the use if ebts mean rangers had an unfair advantage? I don't recall us signing zidane and ronaldinho whilst winning all of our titles. And they say rangers are desperate? Why can't Celtic just enjoy their moment and celebrate. Gloat even. No. Just bitterness. You are all bitter lemons.

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Ed. im not looking for reasons at all. applauded the guy for coming out n discussing his fight with depression round about the time of gary speeds death n also last season i had nothing but sympathy n support for lennon during his troubles with the idiots who made his life a misery. my point is he should have known better n hes obviously bitter about losing titles to us. 1 guy made the perfect point...if the press asked him a question regarding rangers troubles and bearing in mind his opinion as selik manager will be used to stir it up in the press...answer no comment simple!! but no hes put himself out there now n his opinion will be discussed/debated in the press n on radio phone ins for the coming week/weeks ahead.
j1985 {Ed001's Note - I understand what you are saying, but he is entitled to give his opinion, nothing he said was inflammatory really, it is tabloid spin.}

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He should know by now that the tabloids will use his comments to sell papers shd know better and should also take stock that in the west of scotland and across the water there is no shortage of phycopaths who will believe the papers n will go over the top , its the world we liv in right or wrong he shd know better as we all would know better in same position

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Im a jambo feel sorry for your club but we need a fair playing field i think teams outside of old firm get treated badly we need our income too transfers keep our club going no ones thinking of us just saying

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These are desperate times for the Dhims, win at all costs............ Back door into Europe and given the title for free !! Still no class, or dignity on show though.. Not surprised by any of the total nonsense that comes out of that DUMP !! AGer63

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Ed i find the way you continually stick up for them and their fans really bloody annoying,lemon told mccoist to mind his own business when he commented on them,but its alright for the ginger rodent to comment on us {Ed001's Note - have I said McCoist shouldn't comment on them? If not, then you are just talking nonsense, which you are because I don't think there should be a problem with people making comments about other teams. You are just biased, I am not and clearly that annoys you.}

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Never mind NL you lot have bigger fish to fry
lol

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Does that mean man utd should hand back their trophys and titles as they are in debt of 300 million.

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18 Feb 2012 20:46:47
the tax outcome to be revealed in APRIL. (clyde 1)

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The fact that its Clyde actually makes it less reliable.

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When clyde 1 gives you the time, check your watch. ger1952

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April means Rangers will not be allowed to play in Europe.

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18 Feb 2012 20:44:43
when the administrators were speaking to the press today a journalist asked paul clark when a verdict is expected on the tax outcome, his partner was overhead by some of the media telling him APRIL. this was revealed on superscoreboard. so for craig whyte to say that we'll be out of administration by the rend of march is just more lies.

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We could come 2 agreement with creditors(cva) and be out of admin b4 end of march.. Hmrc are the stumbling block as they want 2 go after more football clubs

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Yer kidding has other teams been at this as well ?. Shock horror.I would never have believed it. I hope none of them won any trophies. Better no tell anyone from the East of the City it'll spoil all the fun

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Have you not worked out c whyte a lying sneaky conman , ghod almighty

Ska bhoy

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The decision may be announced in April, but thats not to say the matter will be finalised. I think the Rangers Community are in for a shock this week. The announcment due mid week, might be to tell you this is now likely to take months to resolve, not weeks. Its clear there are many matters buried in the accounts that may take some serious investigations maybe even a police enquiry, to discover the truth. CW thought he had the advantage last Monday, don't think his chosen admin team are doing him any favours.

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The tax bill is not the reason we are in administration. We are in this mess for other taxes we haven't paid.

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All the press today stating 2weeks for a decision.

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End of March 1st of April one day?

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18 Feb 2012 20:42:30
Craig white has said he will assist the administrators. Surely they just ask him where all the money has gone. It seems to me he has used the ticketous money to pay the bank debt but taken the assets he is going to walk away with an 18 million pound profit.

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18 Feb 2012 20:37:20
RANGERSNEWS '
Well im not here to gloat but I told you about the tax case , whyte etc months ago and was abused on here. Well some people seem to have missed the link with Gary Withey of Collyer and Bristow , 4 bedford row, london . He was rangers club secretary for a few weeks until Andrew ellis came in well that is where the 24,4m went and they paid Lloyds its 18m debt off it . So the bottom line is David Grier will now get whyte back 18m which he didnt even put in to pay lloyds. Collyer and Bristow are under investigation of fraud around 51m. Thats the facts that you will eventually find out about check my history of posts! AS .....Pity no one wanted to believe me months ago about whyte/or thomas white , or craig thomas whyte who has used numerous dates of births! AS

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Theirs that many people trying to put the boot in it is difficult to decipher the truth bb,blue

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Hope ur wrong so many stories goin about no one knows see if whytes tellin truth hell make a fortune from the media on lawsuits

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A lot of bears believed you m8, it,s just a crock of shyt what has been happening to our club, we the fans have to trust the gaurdians of the club to run it in a proper manner we are not used to working with millions of pounds, but we do bust our butts to pay for our seasons each year so we can support the gers......long live the gers.

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Spot on he,s walking away with a very large sum and no one can do anything about it.

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Listen mate, I dont think that nobody believed you, I think its that nobody wanted to believe you, I have been worried since the old board warned us about him and then we only spent pennies on diddy players in the summer (who dont even get a game), I have always believed the man was a crook but maybe I didnt want to see it in May last year, it looked like there was light at the end of the tunnel, but all there is now is just a big dark abyss and many years of financial problems ahead of us ........... Dave RFC

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18 Feb 2012 20:27:36
THIS IS A RUMOUR NOT FACT heard from a relative today aboot takeover at rangers and rumour has it hip-hop superstar JAY-Z has been inquiring aboot buying glasgow rangers . just telling you what i heard.. me personally think it is 100% craig whyte (s***e) RonnyBoy

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He already has 99 problems

JBBEAR

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I think he must be a bear afterall didn't he call his baby ivy BLUE?

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Jesus christ! So Jay-Z sittin in NY with beyonce and their newborn baby and Jay Z says "hey , you know how i love soccer? well their is a team in glasgow, scotland in the uk who only need 75 million, It sounds like a no brainer to me if I go ahead an buy them!"

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Ed I know it's a rumour site but come on get a grip. Do you let anything / everything get posted?

Besides, would never happen. There's no way Jay-Z would let his mrs anywhere near Allan McGregor...

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Hes a massive Celtic fan picture of him on the Celtic sightings page.

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Doubt it google Jay-z Celtic and you'll see that he supports them

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Jay z has been pictured in a Celtic top many times so dream n

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Sorry but in the after show @ the brits he was in numerous papers for refusing whites in to the party!! 100% FACT!!!!!

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Who tell yea? SNOOPING DOG!

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He is going halfers with the royal family

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I wish!, we would need a billionaire to sort club out!

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Hes a celtic fan bud, would be good if he did tho
TODD88

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More like the new york rangers

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Brilliant! post of the month.........green jhedi

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Was it puff daddy that told you?

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So he's gonna come over here, bring beyonce and their new born kid, live in cold temperatures and spend Ł150m to get your team debt free and buy players to strengthen the team and NEVER see a return on the money?
WAKE UP, LIQUIDATION IS THE ONLY WAY TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS!!
start again as a new rangers, debt free, build a team of youngsters to gel together and have a wage cap.
not on to slag rangers in any way, just saying how it should be.
frankiebhoy

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That would be a hundred problems he wid have! and the gers wid be one ae them!

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99 problems but the gers aint one

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I can't believe people on here have the naivety to believe Jay Z is a celtic fan, cmonnnnn it is for marketing and developing a fan base, like snoop dogg.........do you think mike tyson really is a rangers fan? unfortunately not....

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18 Feb 2012 19:31:05
Ally to be axed on Monday with durrant taking over the admins want ally's big wages off the books

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Hope so he is clueless

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Why? ross and rachel got together. see a can talk rubbish too. graeme

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Rubbish, if allys wage was a problem then he would be the first person to take a wage cut

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Makes commercial sense, and maybe football sense.

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Don't be so silly, get back to your own page Timothy! Eejit

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So the administrators have a hotline to you do they?

Commercially getting rid of McCoist is suicide. How much backing has he gathered in the last week. Something about not walking away, hit quite a chord with the support.

Letting him go would be daft.

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I hope mccoist wont be axed he loves the club and only wants the best he wants trophies as much as anyone. i feel sorry for mccoist he never had the proper backing of the owner i would be sorry to see him go

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Nothing would surprise me

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If we were in aposition of strength ally would have been sacked by now. i personally would get rid of him, his backroom team and especially the dire scouting system which has let us down for years and years. off-field problems aside the team is rank rotten. apart from naisy and a fit jamie ness there is nothing of any quality there.

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We all love the club but that doesnt mean anything, results and performances have been dreadful. fingers crossed we'll have new owners and money to invest for next season, which leads me to my queastion, would u give ally money to buy players. i wouldn't.

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Durrant or mc dowall to be axed all to take apay cut

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When we come out of administration whoever owns us has a big decision on their hands deciding whether McCoist stays or goes. His record this season ain't great is it?

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Agree on Super Ally being there on pay cut if reqd. He's Ally McCoist, Rangers legend. Not even the posting Timothy would claim any different.

McCoist will see us through this, and I don't know about you but he's got my backing.

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Ally may well go this week,along with many others.We need to cut costs dramatically.If we are to survuve in our present form,then today was the last time we watched RFC as we know them.To balance the books,most,if not all off our top players will be paid off this week,there is no other way.
Also,our administrators are a disaster,totally out of their depth.I would not be surprised if HMRC try to get the court to remove them at the beginning of the week.
I fear,that we may just have watched the last game at Ibrox with Rangers as we know it.I say this for 1 of two reasons:
1-Our administrators are totally inept,probably breaking the law,
or,
2-Decided to play today to avoid any public disorder.We have no home game for 2 weeks,and in that time redundancies will be massive,cost cutting will see the club on its knees.We have no money to pay our bills.I don't think all wages wil be paid this week.I hate to say it but I think we will probably close down within the next 2 weeks.I also think that we have probably seen the last of our chairman.

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In every recent admin of a football club the manager as been one of the first to go. Only way ally could stay is if he was prepared to take a big pay cut

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Say what you like about Ally's tactics, but he is the only source of optimism at Rangers now. No way should he leave, and who else would want the job anyway?.

Roy

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Yer arse and parsley, timothy ! Super Ally is our greatest asset. And you Mankies know that.

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That would be great! He is clueless when it comes to managing the team as his failure in 4 cup competitions proves. If Ally goes then at least something positive will come with administration

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Cant believe these posts asking for ally to leave give the manager a chance

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This season what happens on the pitch is secondary now. I was never 100% sure that Ally was the right man for the job. Now Im sure he is the man to see us through this. Im certain if the administrators asked Ally and the backroom staff to take a pay cut they all would. Rangers survival is what matters foremost

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How can people be calling for him to get the sack, all this stuff that is happening is not his fault and as for cup competitions the players themselves have to take responsibility for not playing well, it does not matter who your manager is if the players simply are not playing well then we aint going to win games. David ( i dont know what offside is) healy is our only striker what the hell can ally do about that he has NO other options, its so unfair to be blaming him.

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Is this the same ally mccoist who worked for 3 months without a contract the other year??

ally will work for free so all u celtic fans, keep dreaming, when ths all gets sorted out, beware, there will be no winning the title by default

watp

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Ally would take a paycut for rangers.
Ally would not take a cut which would ultimately line whytes pockets.

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18 Feb 2012 18:50:47
just heard the fans will get some answers next week from the admin team of paul clark

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Hope its some good news then

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The only way Rangers fans will get any honest answers is if Strathclyde Police investigate what is going on at Ibrox.

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To be fair we have to know what has went on

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From who?

It's amazing that the administrators choose people on gossip websites to share info with.

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Rubbish next

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Yeah probably more of the same vague s**t they have already told us.

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They said that they would communicate and that is what they will do. But, they have to finish all their work and that will take time so it will be an element of drip feed I'm afraid.

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18 Feb 2012 17:31:14
between 6-8 players to leave rangers next week. alexander, mckay, broadfoot, papac, healy and kerker are some of those to leave the club.

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Add to that the admin staff, the security staff, the cleaners & the grounds staff. Could the last person to leave switch the FOR SALE sign off.

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McCoist should go too! Utterly clueless

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I think it is inevitable high earners will be first to go, this may include the management team.

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But what will you do without Healy he's your main ......goalscorer
CBGB

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Mccoist should go? miby u should go and support another club. super ally, be loyal

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Why was the stadium half empty at full time? the sky sports guy was saying you were leaving at least 10 minutes before full time. I know some people do this for travel etc but come on this was supposed to be "lets show everyone" sorry didn't happen

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I would be happy with that maybe papac and kerkar would be the only ones i would keep.

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Why get rid of the free transfers when u need cash

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Mccoist shud go? well done pal thats sticking together. graeme

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Perhaps now is not the time to speculate re people losing jobs.

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Does it really matter of any of the players listed above leave? They are all utter p*sh. The footballing side of things is irrelevant now until the off field matters are stablilised.

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We should rid of ally. try and see beyond his legendary status as a player along with his love of the club and look at the situation, we are out of all competitions, most of his signings have been hopeless and the football itself is total garbage. u would have thought with 50,000 lifting the roof today that we could at least beat kilmarnock and i hate to say this but there is every chance if we continue to play as we have been then motherwell xould clinch 2nd spot.

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McCoist clueless? Get a grip pal. Who is going to do any better in this situation? A situation thats only going to get worse in the coming weeks. Its you thats clueless.

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McCoist is hopless. His record this season especially in cup competitions is awful. Why can't fans see this? How bad does it get before you wake up and see he is not the man for the job

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Pure speculation at the moment and nobody knows yet who will leave.

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We should get rid of the whole management team if we are to build for the future. ally is not the answer. the football is simply aweful.

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I'd keep big kirk , make him captain,

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One question: why Kerkar. He was one of about three players that stepped up and did their job against Killie. Seriously the guy has become a really good player who we need to hold on to. If ayone should go it should be the so-called "captain". He is a passenger for most game, far to incosistant and is not a natural leader.

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Nope nope nope, the players we will be losing will be the ones who we actually want, the list you posted will be the ones who stay as they are worth nout, so wishfull thinking but do you honestly think the administrators are going to be saying, oh we have to leavu all the good players so they can still challenge, dont think so and if naismith was not injured he would be long gone as well, nothing about this is going to be positive think the worst as that is what is going to happen.

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Add 10 points and we would still be in the running! It's the fault of those that ran the club, Ali has been an icon/legend and it's not his fault! Blame those the look after the purse strings!!

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This is bulls**t

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Why dont you go on to celtic underground they seem to know whats going on in your club more than yous ,what your problem is ,is the media they have been keeping back the truth from yous from years of dodgy handshakes and internal influence , here is a ruma 4 ya celtic will dominate scottish football 4 the next ten years , ps simon cowel thats the best so far

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18 Feb 2012 17:08:03
Big news to come out of America tonight about possible Gers takeover

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A think tiger woods is buying the club and turning ibrox into a driving range

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Before the BIG tax bill is decided, not a chance.
Jimd

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Id rather it was tom hunter.so called big gers fan but would rather be a do-gooder and give his millions away to everyone else.think its about time us fans got on the back of these millionaires,billionaires by asking about them in radio phone-ins and newspapers and then see if they step up to the plate!
WATP

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Hope the first thing they do when they get here is, Reinstate the Refs Bung! Two goals and a player chopped, Honestly.

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Exciting times. I heard the Rexas Rangers were being lined up for something major!

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Yeah helping starving kids before overpaid footballers, the guys a joke

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What a lot of nonsense, no one will touch Rangers with a bargepole!

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Craig Whyte out and the Blue Knights in. The only answer.

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There were 50000 at ibrox today. All of us give a grand each. There's 50 million. Either buy shares or wait until a new owner with Rangers at heart and not himself takes over and use it as transfer kitty. Boom. If we handed over 50 mill to Gers with CW still involved it would be stashed with the ticketus money before you could say "We don't do walking away".

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Mickey Mouse by any chance?

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Aye sure that's how these 'millionaire/'billionaire' businessmen made there money by listening to radio phone-ins get a grip you muppet......totally deluded!

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Think it's more likely to be an investor for outside the UK than some like Hunter or McColl. There are a lot of ex pats out there who are worth millions and just because we've not heard of them doesn't mean they're not willing to invest, who had honestly heard of Dave King before he chucked millions in and remember if his assets weren't frozen in South Africa he could wipe out all the debts and have a he transfer pot without making a dent in his fortune

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RFC was on the open market for sale for ages, no takers except Whyte, go figure.

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It`s Walmart buying yer park to make an ASDA superstore ya tube

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Can ye not start a selik rumours it seems to be all the east end lot on here lol

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Was listening to darrel king on radio clyde today he seems to know that some people are interested in takeing rangers over and he says they have the millions to do it and he sounded if he new what he was talking about, then you get mark guidi shooting him down as usual, leys just all wait and see what happens the main thing is that the club survives.

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No "sane" person will touch RFC with a barge pole until the septic finances are sorted out and HMRC are hapy.

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Guidi never has anything good to say about rangers. he is a timmy after all.

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Aye so there is.

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You need 50,000 to give 100,00for 50 million

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The big news coming out of america is that they want their captain back as yous are making a couple of their players a laughing stock of the football world just as murray and whyte has done to you

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If 50 000 invest Ł1 000each. HHmm...how much money did the fans invest when Sir Minty offered shares a few years ago ?

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Shares were not open to general public, was existing shareholders....any way use 'dug deep' n raised about 3 million - Ł50 per head of 60,000 fans in the piggery...ooooohhhhh

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Well timmy the so called tax
experts how do you work out that 50,000 Fans would need to invest 10,000 to make 50million and you wonder why we do not listen to your drivel.ask you teacher for extra Maths it will help you in latter life

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No the man is right 1000 X 50000 is 50 million, there is this fantastic device that lets you multiply numbers to find an answer so if you go and get one of these now . . . . . got it yeah? Right now punch in 1000 then press the little thing that looks like a kiss in a text message, then punch in 50000 and press the we button that has 2 horizontal parallel lines on it and i think you will find that if 50000 people pay 1000 each it does indeed give you 50000000, sorry too many 0's for you, it gives you 50 mill ya tube, go back to school.

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Ya thats a good idea put a grand in each and at thew same time send me a grand each i promise i will put it to good use ,are you completeley lost it, your board and past board is the problem like all your other related organisations its about how much they can take from yous and ther predecessers will be no diffrent ,rfc are in the gutter for the next ten years so get use to it

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18 Feb 2012 14:02:41
Craig Whyte spotted in Glasgow Airport, please tell me he isn't going to the game today

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So wiz ma auntie maggie but she gone tenerife

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He was advised to stay away from the police.... give the man a break... he's finding this tough too...

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Bet he had overweight bags and was going out not coming in.

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Craig whyte is not doing himself any favours! rangers fans need answers and he's refusing to talk about the situation,we learned more about it in one interview with the administrators than we have off whyte in his full tenure!

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Heard he is on route to clear his bank account in the Caymon Islands of the advance for the season tickets, his next visit to Glasgow will be to visit Govan Police Station. Have heard he will share a cell at the Bar'l in the celtic wing, only place he will be welcome.

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It takes a few journeys to carry all that dough in suitcases.

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The only way hell come 2 foot near ibrox is if hes broxi bear

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I remember similar rants about a certain Fergus McCann, lets wait and see, he aint an idiot, he has 18 million reasons to look after RFC.

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Craig whyte should return and at least give his side of the story to the fans we deseve better

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Load of rubbish.

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And after waiting 20 years the groating is all the sweeter.... Just remember McCann put in place the foundation for the club to be bought by the fans, all be the rich fans, don't see S&&&E making that offer to you guys.

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18 Feb 2012 14:02:03
Ed, can cousan play today mate? {Ed001's Note - no.}

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Cousin cany play fullstop lol

Paddy

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Can cousan ever play for Glasgow RANGERS again

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Cousin will not play again for Rangers. He can share a taxi home with half the team next week when they get the sack though.

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Your cousin can play as he will be better than what theyve got

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18 Feb 2012 13:52:30
heard joe lewis wants 2 buy rangers

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More chance of lennox lewis taking over

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Leona lewis has put in a bid!!

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Jerry Lewis !

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What about Carl Lewis ?

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More chance of Joe Bugner buying us

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What about SMOKIN joe frazier? graeme

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More like jane lewis

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I heard it was Huey Lewis buying you lot and the new name will be huey Lewis and the blues

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18 Feb 2012 13:21:28
this is just a rumour but i heard that graeme souness is try to persaude simon cowell to buy rangers

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Wohah! please stop, more chance of Peter Lawell buying Linfield Rangers...

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Lol aye but we got four no`s so no boot camp unfortunately

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Well I've heard it ALL now...

CC

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Really? it is just a rumour, bugger eh.

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Absolute belter, what ever your taking must be strong, who told you that, your bedside table ya loony. Haha

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Haha thats brill... simon can hold auditions for players... that would be good tv... beats the singing crap.... call it the rangers factor... anyone can come to ibrox and show us what they got for a chance to win a contract

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I've heard its true as well. and louis walsh is going to be the new manager, pmsl.

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But rangers havent got talent.artybhoy

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Thanks i needed a laugh after today

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Jedward to do halftime shows

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Yea if we didnt laugh at ourselves we would go crazy mate.... we are too big of a club... we will survive and some back stronger

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It's a no from me!!

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We could call the auditions rangers idol.

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18 Feb 2012 12:19:09
What is happening with the blue order today

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What do you mean?

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Startin the search for a new club to support no doubt

Paddy

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Nothing think about it your team were going into administration and only 150 of you turned up at Ibrox to protest. Now think back to 11th July 1989 when most of you where over the water for the big Parade, 15,000 of you turned up to protest at the signing of Mo Johnstone, Yea canny protest the orders of the Queen. SO NO PROTEST
Tim

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18 Feb 2012 11:55:33
Hi There
my first post on this website, was just having an idea, if we get 50,000 fans at Ibrox today and the atmosphere is epic, and we put Kilmarnock to the sword, maybe we should give the tic a ten point start every season and we still keep on winning the league,what do you think? Cheers Kishmel

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Well you had a 15 point lead over us at one point this season and we caught you.so doesnt that make your post a bit stupid?artybhoy

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U never gave us a 10 point lead ,we gave you a 15 point lead and turned it round . When are you going to realise you were deducted 10 points we weren't given them,.....DH

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They need it. graeme

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Good first post Kishmel,
Liked it.
Iam Legend

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Celtic were not given a ten point start you moron. Ever team started on the same points. No team will ever be given axtra points however if a team breaks league rules i.e entering administration then that team will be deducted 10 points.

If for some bizzare reason rangers do not go into liquidation and are still in administration at the start of next season then they will be deducted another 10 points so hopefully that will give you some comfort for now

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Yeah youll be in admin for years, no signings, no europe, sounds good to me.

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Can someone explain a fifteen point lead to me. Im sure Septic had two games in hand, technically a nine point lead with a possibility of fifteen had you lost the two in hand. Five nil today, come on the bears!

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Regardless of how many games we had in hand the fact is you had 15 points more than us at some stage in the season. We turned the defecit into a 4 point advantage. get over it. RIP rangers haha

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Good post kishmel, quick sum1 grab the net how many mankys did u just pull out the water there?
Superb fishin skills......govan_front87

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He`s having a laff jesus people, the tims have had and lost several decent leads in the last few years-no bottle you see need rangers to go into admin to look have respectable if thats poss for them! with that shaved orangutan in charge at tic park they might blow this lead!
stg

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I will have some of what your drinking

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It was 15 points because we had the points on the board and celtic did not. games in hand are not points

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Yip ur plan is working well....kilmarnock being put to the sword haha! What a tube! Rangers should be embaressed to have u as a "fan"

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Are rangers going to play every match with 10 men in the second half, some performance in the first half today.

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Under ally, smeltic need no help!

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And the fairy story start ended the same way. 50,000 fans crying in the rain.

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1 nil to kilmarnock, what was that Kishmel, in your dreams mate now off to bed noddy

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After that post, I would make it your last. Classic.

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There were 50,000... there wasn't an epic atmosphere... you didn't put anyone to the sword and were in fact cut to pieces Killie who have now done a double over you this season... It must all be very humbling for you losing all your dignity as well as losing football games!

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Nice to see the Septic fans still more obsessed with Rangers than their own:-) lol

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We have waited almost 20 years for pay back over the abuse we took over the biscuit tin. At least when we had our problems we didn't cause any other teams heartache, not like Rangers are doing with the likes of Dumfermline and Dundee Unt. Just remember these teams might have a say on what happens if Rangers need to form a new identity.

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GRFC.....the team with no morals!...you have the cheek to play wallace when you still owe hearts 800k!...and the guy celik who is pure rangers class by the way...how much you owe on him?..o aye 250k!...yip grfc the team with no morals!

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18 Feb 2012 04:03:40
sfa to probe rangers over non payment to spl clubs is this true ? what action can they take worrying times ahead sigh

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Anyone know yet when the decision on the outcome of the big tax case is due ? The sooner the better in my view.

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Well quite rightly so because these smaller clubs could go under these clubs rely on this cash why dont the players wipe off a weeks wage show some dignity

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As rangers are in admin there isnt much the sfa can do right now, they wont be allowed to set mandates for payment dates, thats what cva's are for at this moment; and if they dont agree to a cva then they are added to a list of creditors

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See the tims are trolling the site as usual....trueblue....

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A weeks wages wont come to much. Also why should they carry the burden. It needs to be sorted properly.

GDog
WATP

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Why is Lennon wanting rangers to be stripped of titles,does this mean when celtic almost went out of buisness the titles they won should be stripped. money doesnt win titles players do celtic have had the money but we are still champions does that make him a bad manager then if what he says rangers won titles because we spent more money like they have done for last couple of years

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Celtic never went out if business, they restructered. Its not timmy lies that sfa are investigating.

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"if what he says rangers won titles because we spent more money like they have done for last couple of years"

Get your facts right dafty. The Tax Dodgers have spent more money than Celtic over the last few seasons. Its just that what you bought was mince.

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Mince enough to win 3 in a row

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I hope it was worth it. Cos' it's the last 3 in a row Rangers Football Club will ever win.

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Hope this is true, we will never forget that Rangers screwed the mighty Airdrie for money and helped us to go in to liquidation, now you are in the position we were so you should be more aware how much this can impact on other clubs.

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Forget moaning about the past and bringing up things that happened years ago... Rangers will bounce back from this a stronger club and no doubt will remain to be the MOST successful football club in the world - FACT!
Something those green tims will never be able to claim!!

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When was RFC ever the most successful club in the world lol ?

I am on planet earth, where are you ?

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Glasgow Rangers Ltd or whatever it will be called will have no history, no five red stars on your shirt, just as Airdrie & Livingston had to start again. No one but the small group of Rangers fans will bother about the history surrounding the defunct Glasgow Rangers 1873. That history will be dispatched to the books as was with the Great Third Lanark.
Europe won't give you any credit for past performance, and you can be assured that every club in Scotland will remind you of your lack of success.

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Dont think the sfa can do much till we come out of administration

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If clubs are owed money (Dunfermline, Hearts and Dundee Utd) and no doubt the SFA themselves from their cut of the cup game, then Rangers will be in breach of the Articles of Association, which as a consequence the SFA reserve the right to cancel the membership of said club, which would result in their automatic expulsion from the SPL/SFL and out of football.

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18 Feb 2012 00:33:08
two americans are interested in buying us its on tommorows scottish sun any idea who they could be ed?
AndyBear98 {Ed001's Note - no sorry I don't have a clue.}

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Thanks ed
AndyBear98 {Ed001's Note - hard to tell with tabloids if they have just plucked random names out of thin air!}

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Would this be RANDOLPH& MORTIMER,OF duke& duke???/pmsl,c'mon its a bit off banter..hope works out for ad miss the banter.STEVIE,

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Edu and Bedoya ?

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THE SAME RAG that said it was Mandric today ,who will it be on sunday 2 russians

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Hope its not the two clowns from Liverpool FC {Ed001's Note - I doubt they can afford to buy anything, they nearly did the same to Liverpool but for it being rescued. Their American sports teams went a similar way as well.}

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Could it be Harry and Lloyd from dumb and dumber?
Frankiebhoy

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I've heard one of them is the disney corporation , apparently they think whats going on at ibrokes is the funniest thing ever... billybhoy {Ed014's Note - Disney own ESPN.

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Americans? aye. rangers? no. some english club.cant rememnber who. stevie bear

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Billybhoy. a would take whats happening to gers the now all day long rather than have a tit like lawell in charge who causes have the bother at old firm games with his stupid comments. graeme

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Ed we will need to get a loan of the biscuit tin from Celtic, oh how they forget !

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On a serious note would rather we went into a fan based ownership like the German clubs and not have one investor owning most of club. And would hope that new board when formed would take decisions for the future ie exactly what league to apply to if that time comes. We will lift the roof today fellow bears, be proud be loud

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John W Henry?

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I think the link to Disney is possible - well they are "Donald Ducked" anyway !

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Typical.....you would rather your club didn't pay taxes, worked their way out of paying debts and was owned by a crook than have an honest, decent man in charge who has the best interests of the club at heart? Says it all really.

Mikey Bhoy

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I don't think we will ever forget, how the mismanagement of our club brought us to near administration or how we got ourselves organised and got rid of the old board. You need to wake up and smell the coffee, get over today and then get organised, boycott Whyte (if it means boycott the games well so be it ) and bring it to a head as quickly as possible.

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Graeme are you serious? You would rather be staring into the abyss than have a guy like Lawell in charge? Seriously mate catch a grip of yourself.

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Would be great if we got owners from the US that have a franchise over there, preferably a big one. Just can't see it happening though :(

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Not sure who is promoting all this crap... No one in their right mind is going to put any bid in for Rangers until the know the outcome of the tax case, The admisistrators will not be in any position to offer any deals until they know what they are dealing with, hence the warning about your accounts not being completed by 31st March. Rangers fans wake up, this will not go away in a few weeks, it may take many months.

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I really can not see how RFC can come out of Administration before the outcome of the big tax case.

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It'll be the same guy who tried to sign jelavic for 9 mill

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17 Feb 2012 23:54:53
Heard from a reliable source that if no investment before next home game will struggle to play next home game,6 players have been told their fate with another 6 on way out,only reason was not this week as to a fans backlash and boycott,before the next home game expect a crumble for the worst

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I suspect your reliable source is from the other side of the city, it is a sell out for tomorrows game and I honestly think the Gers support will rock Ibrox. It has not been like that for some weeks now but tomorrow you are going to see the Gers family getting behind their team.

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Enjoy the swansong tomorrow bears after that it will be back to the dark days of the 80's regular crowds below 10'000. Maybe you will replicate that famous game against thistle in 1979 when less than 1800 turned up

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As a rangers fan of 48 years im really worried about things not looking good at all hope im wrong

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How exactly will our next game be under 10k? This is taking into account that the only time Celtic can fill their stadium is during an old firm game. Even high profile European games can't see Celtic fill parkhead

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Hibby here.i personally want to see a strong rangers every season as apart from the derby its the game i always look forward to.heres hoping investment happens soon.....

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The administrator will be obliged to look at ways of cutting costs and will start by looking at player costs - by next week he will release the players with no sell on value i.e. the players who are out of contract at the end of the season. There is quite a handful of players in this position and it strikes me that this will be the first part of the insolvency that is really going to affect the fans. Within two weeks the rangers fans will be demonstrating at the demise of their mighty club and then realising the total futility of their demonstrations will shortly stop turning up.

In any event, the gate receipts are the property of ticketus and so the rally round by the fans has no financial benefit for the club.

A hopeless and utterly shameful position for the club. Once again, Scotlands Shame.

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Ok so hopefully broadfoot, whittaker, mcculloch, healy, lafferty, cellik have been told their fate. Then edu, bedoya, ortiz, mckay, kerkar, papac will be the other 6 u mention. Still got greegsy, davis, naisy when fit, wallace, wylde. Get hutton and fleck back, get ness fit again, get hemmings fit again. Backfill with young team. Sounds fine to me. Getting the money sapping deadwood out has been a long time coming. Shame its taken such drastic measures... But we need to use this time to sort that out if nothing else. Are you telling me our youth structure cannot produce an 18/19 yr old who cant do what edu/ortiz/broadfoot does at a fraction of the wages. I'm just hoping admin doesn't harm our youth structure.

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Under big tony mowbary parkhead had lower crowds than ibrox (despite having a capacity of about 15k more than ibrox)

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From Motherwell Fan. Motherwell came through administration (although they didn't owe any money to HMRC).
We have anounced a yearly profit (2010/2011) of over Ł500,000, and are opening the shares left by Boyle, for sale to the 'Well fans, via the 'Well society.
If Motherwell can achieve this after administration, so can Rangers.
Salmond was right, to prosper, Scottish football, including Celtic, needs Rangers, and Rangers need Scottish football.
Best of luck in the future (except when we play you – fair do's!) – 'Well Fan

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Of course admin will affect the youth development. Anything that is not absolutely core to the business will be stripped out. Rangers will be scaled back beyond recognition and will be financially burdened going forward with whatever terms the other spl teams choose to impose for re-entry to the league under the hived out business.

The Motherwell admin is no comparison. The vast bulk of the debt was due to john Boyle, so he was able to dictate the terms of the cva. Also,Motherwell had not mortgaged all their future revenue streams.

This is a liquidation scenario - have no doubt about that. Rangers will never be the same club, or anything even remotely comparable. You are bearing witness to the emergence of decades long domination by Celtic. And that is ultimately justice for years of financial doping that has delivered so many trophies to rangers. I hope you feel it was worth it.

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The writing was on the wall regarding youth policy two seasons back, when Rangers pulled their Reserves team from the SPL reserves league. Half the lads in both the old firm youth teams will never be good enough to represent either Celtic or Rangers, thats why they are called youth players and not pool players.
Rangers may struggle over the coming weeks to play anything that resembles a Professional Rangers Team.

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It does not matter what players are released, it is irrelevant now. The main thing is that the financial side of things is stablisied. Craig Whyte and his crooked croonies need to be removed from the equation first and then we can get the club back on track. I feel for the other SPL clubs that we owe money and all of the small suppliers who have done an honest day's work. We owe it to our creditors to pay up and settle our debts.

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Calling in an Administrator does not make you a crook, not paying your paye does not make you a crook and buying future ticket sales does not make you a crook.
Evading paying tax to the tune of 45 million makes you a crook.

Just saying.

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Agree Motherwell administration was completely different. Don't agree liquidation is imminent but still possible.
re Tax case, from Scotsman
"EBTs are believed to have been run by around 5,000 businesses in the UK, including football clubs south of the Border. They became illegal in December 2010 but, until then, firms had been able to exploit the tax laws to provide sums to employees without PAYE or National Insurance as long as these were in the form of discretionary, repayable loans. At the tax tribunal, HMRC argued Rangers’ use of them for nine years was, in fact, a way to help mostly foreign players evade tax on salaries and bonuses. The source, who is not connected to Rangers but had clients who benefited from EBTs, claims that this entirely misrepresents the scheme in operation at Ibrox. “It was totally and absolutely correctly administered, and the club met all their legal responsibilities and complied with all tax laws,” said the source. “They took advice from top-notch lawyers and a whole battalion of the best accountants on a global level."

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