Rangers Rumours Archive April 16 2012

 

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16 Apr 2012 21:47:43
THE Blue Knights Consortium have "stepped back" from the race to take over the crisis-hit Ibrox club.
In a statement released tonight, the consortium revealed they had moved aside to allow a group from Singapore to agree a deal with ticket firm Ticketus to buy the club.
But the Blue Knights said they stood by their original offer for the club made earlier this month.

Source: Daily Record and http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17736718

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Yeah on ss as well

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1) This statement from the administrators is also on Rangers official club website

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Yup, Ng's pockets are deeper. Simple as. He seems to have Ticketus on board too.

Anyone's guess what happens next.

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This is the public story of this very public failure.
P Murray and his Rangers Fans Millionaires, including Douglas Park wouldn't put up the 500k non refundable.
This 500k is needed by D&P to pay the April bills.

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Haw haw..... Stepped back..... Haw haw

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The blue knights "don't do walking away" they just step back! b****cks...cowards don't want to lose their money,it would be our money they would lose anyway.just you keep walking you could have been legends..

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The Singaporeans Ng and Ticketus have made P Murray look like a daft kid.
'stepped back' lol. At least no tainted ex director will be involved now from the old board. Murray is still not a fit person under SFA regulations.

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Guys I tip my cap to Paul Murray. He spotted CW for what he is, and since then has played a big part in keeping rangers alive. Can you imagine what sort of deal Bill Ng could have done if it was not competitive?

Murray has dealt with ticketus, turning them from being the death knell of the club to them being a part of the return of the rangers. He got them to waive over £10m. I think the fans owe him gratitude and respect for that.

If he hadnt done the ticketus deal would Ng have done a deal with them? We'll never know though one things for sure, Ng wants the club and he stepped in to snatch the ticketus deal away from BKs.

Thanks Paul.

Now Mr Ng lets see what you are bringing to the party, if it's not right, will Murray and or Brian Kennedy step back in, I wonder?

Don't know about you but if Ng delivers I'm happy to be a bill ing boy....

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Ng now needs to be very very closely scrutinized by the SFA to see if he or any of his Directors meet the fit and proper regulations criteria.
There are many independent investigation companies out there who do this activity.

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What a joke! When it came to stumping up £500,000 non refundable for Rangers football club they chickened out or couldn't afford it.
Anyway, who would be daft enough to do that? Knowing one of a hundred things could go wrong including Whyte not giving you his shares! And then you're down £500,000.
Businessmen don't do processes like this D&P approach. It's too risky for anyone.

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D&P have weeded out this most incinscere of bidders with a simple 500,000 deposit request. P Murray really is shown up, all credibility busted.
D&P have weeded him out.
Other bidders can now adjust their bids accordingly.

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Good luck with the "Newco"

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There is no point in putting up 500k when Ticketus have negotiated a better deal with ng, especially when Ticketus refused to put up the 500k. The BK's were forced to accept new Ticketus terms or withdraw, and they withdrew.
It is now between a liquidator and a going concern, the administrators will pick the one which pays most to creditors.

Since HMRC are a big creditor they will accept the decision of the administrator. It looks like Rangers are going to survive, CW has no reason not to sell his shares for an agreed amount, it can't be much as he gets nothing in liquidation. His 30 million floating charge goes to Ticketus and his shares would be worthless. He may want 3 million or he may want a pound.

I DON'T BELIEVE LIQUIDATION IS NOW LOGICAL, THEY WOULD NOT BE ASKING BK'S TO BE THE PREFERRED BIDDER, IF THEY WERE NOT A BETTER RETURN TO CREDITORS THAN LIQUIDATION.

NG's offer is even better, so it obviously must be better than Millers liquidation offer.

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From the post above - 'Since HMRC are a big creditor they will accept the decision of the administrator'

Oh they will will they?
HMRC will be calling the shots, not D&P.
This is they way it has been since day 1 of the administration, and isn't going to change.
HMRC are not bound to accept any decisions, comments, or smoke and mirrors D&P throw their way.
D&P can 'ask nicely' for a CVA, HMRC will decide whether they get it or not.

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But if TBK have so much money, why were they going cap in hand to Ticketus to pay another £500k ontop of the £20m or so they were supposedly losing out in the deal already?

Think this shows that Paul Murray was all talk and wanted to try and get his club for as cheaply as possible

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Reports don't say they are preferred bidder, Miller still in the running. let's not get carried away.

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CW has no reason not to sell his shares for an agreed amount, it can't be much as he gets nothing in liquidation. His 30 million floating charge goes to Ticketus and his shares would be worthless.

Can you explain how Craig Whyte loses his secured creditor status please ?

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I don't blame PM for keeping his £500K. He would have had to find an extra £4m for Ticketus too, to match Ng's bid. Money like that just isn't around in Scottish football.

We just don't know what Ng plans to do, assuming he wins control. It's not a done deal yet.

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Step back aka walking away!

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Dont you get it yet,Ticketus is a business and will do a deal with who ever will give ita better return, on its investment through CW. Its all about profit for Ticketus, Rangers is just a name of a company who own them money.What we need to watch is the "back letter" deals done behind the takeover

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CW does not lose his preferred creditor status, in the event of liquidation he gets his 30 million Ticketus personal guarantee back but nothing else. You secure assets against debt, CW has only one debt, Ticketus.

This debt disappears if Ticketus are part of any new owners deal, his preferred creditor status is meaningless because he is not a creditor.

He will sell his shares to Bill Ng for a nominal amount, it has to be nominal or it tilts the balance back towards liquidation, as I said in liquidation he loses nothing but makes nothing.

On the issue of HMRC accepting the decision of D&P, they are the appointed representatives of the creditors, why would they refuse to accept the best return on offer ?

Accepting a CVA is not sanctoning EBT's in any shape or form, HMRC would be negligent in insisting on liquidation for a lesser return to the tax payer.

If he final tax bill is 90 million then they get zero back in the event of liquidation, a CVA may get them 10-20p in the pound, do the math.

CW has known all along that liquidation was never an option for HMRC, he constructed the debt in such a way that they would get nothing in the event of liquidation. HMRC was the elephant in the room when he bought the club, he saw it as the biggest threat to the future of Rangers and planned for this threat.

Is it ehical...nope, is it legal...yep, businesses do it all the time.

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D&P will demonstrate to all creditors why a CVA is a better alternative than liquidation. HMRC would have to explain why they were refusig their advice and going for a lesser alternative.

It will never happen, they will accept 10-20p in the pound against nothing.

CW has shafted HMRC and they know it but they can not do anything about it, and he knows it.

Its very clever.

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HMRC and EBT's have received an enormous amount of publicity, I think the message has got through to all businesses that HMRC will pursue you into administration or liquidation to recover money. Nobody is going to touch EBTs with a barge pole and will settle with HMRC.

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Rangers fans will still have their history but will get pelters from other fans because they did not pay all their debts.

Its a small price to pay in my view.

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What exactly was Murray and the Blue Knights bringing to the table? imho f-all, this is going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better, NG's Mickey Mouse offer of 12 mill isn't exactly going to do much either as they are hoping for a 10p in the pound settlement, thats not going to happen, anyone got a plan BCDEFGH...

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Craig will retain his floating charge over Ibrox and therefore in the event of liquidation hold all the aces.

The blue knights never had the money to make a serious move for the club. In fact none of the bids on the table have serious enough money to move this forward.

A CVA could mean further restrictions next season so I really no longer see what anyone is making out of buying Rangers.

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HMRC can quite easily say no to a CVA. In the bigger scheme of things they would like to go after around 8 EPL teams.
What better way of proving your serious than to make an example out of Rangers.
The last 9 months or so PAYE and NIC will be expected to be paid IN FULL. ( some 9-12 mill ) Any other outcome leaves the door open for every other business in the country to pull the same stunt.

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This is rapidly becoming a failed Administration.

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The last 9 months or so PAYE and NIC will be expected to be paid IN FULL. ( some 9-12 mill ) Any other outcome leaves the door open for every other business in the country to pull the same stunt.
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I disagree, I believe HMRC must explain to me as a tax payer why they allowed RFC to trade for 9 months without paying any paye, nic or vat, I can assure you this length of time is not standard practice.
However it is standard practice for companies to default on payments if they have cash flow problems.

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'Its a small price to pay in my view' tell that to a cancer sufferer - oh I forgot Rangers don't do paying their way!

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What better way of proving your serious than to make an example out of Rangers.
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They have made a very public example of Rangers and they put them into administration.

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There just waiting for big tax case outcome then hmrc have a full hand !
RFC will be made example to all others concerned with EBTs ! Other clubs will be queuing up to offer 50-60-70-80- pence in the £ after hmrc have finished with rangers


Then bye bye

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16 Apr 2012 21:34:17
Word is that Bill NG has made a sucessful bid 4 £14mil, and has agreed 2 no liquidation. Fingerscrossed. ....jsm

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Celtic Anthems 2012

You'll Never Walk Alone - Stolen from Liverpool.

If You Know Our History - Stolen from Everton.

Next up... Forever Blowing Doubles - Stolen from West Ham.

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I hope this is right,wotever people say rangers are a top european club and should not be allowed to go under for the terrible behavour of its owners,they should be the ones facing charges

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It's futile
word is the taxman says no deal.
pmsl

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You sure about the no-liquidation bit?

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To the poster how said "The Taxman says no Deal" Where did you get this info, and the Taxman has no say in how buys the club,

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I think you will find that Man Utd sang YNWA first. Well apart from it actually being out a musical called Carousel that has nothing to do with football. Will we look at where Rangers get their songs from......their tainted history mixed with an ingrained racist and sectarian persona. Have a look at the songs you sing and what they are mocking?

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Ohhhh thats right Tic don't sing sectarian songs or back terrorist organizations, take a close look at the green brigade before throwing stones

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In relation to the Celtic song (if you know the history) you are wrong. The song was originally sung by Belfast Celtic who were disbanded following sectarian abusive, violence and intimidation. However Celtic FC will never be disbande no matter what they or their employees have to face

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FFS what has songs got to do with the OP.."...DH

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Aye and SDM said would only sell to someone who has RFC interests at hearta bedbe for Benicia the of Rangers, Craig white

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Aye and SDM SAID he would only sell to someone that would.benefit rangers football club ! Wait for it
He sold to Craig White who also SAID he would pump money into RFC pay off debt and give millions to pay for players!
He also SAID he was paying paye and. Ever used ticketas Money to buy the club!
SO if this deal goes ahead and ng have SAID no liquidation you've got to believe it

Wake up and take big sniffs cos I smell S**TE !
"briggies"

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Why would anyone pay £14m pounds for a club that is £134m in debt? whyte paid £1 for less debts?

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Why would anyone pay £14m pounds for a club that is £134m in debt? whyte paid £1 for less debts?
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You are confused, CW paid a pound for a company with potentially huge debts. Ng is paying 14 million for a company and assets with only one debt, Ticketus. All other debts are wiped out by the CVA.

Its a good deal in the long term.

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A CVA does wipe out the debt if HMRC will agree to it. HMRC policy is not to accept a CVA if there is evidence of tax avoidence.

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I think as time goes on all parties will walk away !
Craig White bought for a £ and STILL owns RFC !
Ng willing to pay £14 million in !
confused . Com
Every day the story changes ! Can't wait for tomorrow
Would still like to see rangers in spl next year but unfortunately I think there will be no happy ending to this story

"Newburgh"

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A CVA does wipe out the debt if HMRC will agree to it. HMRC policy is not to accept a CVA if there is evidence of tax avoidence.
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HMRC has one policy, to get back the most money, the CVA gets them back the most money. The alternative is liquidation and HMRC gets back no money.

HMRC has no official policy on CVAs involving tax avoidance, they are all dealt with on a case by case basis.

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16 Apr 2012 21:17:17
Ng doing deal with ticketus to offer better cva and bk step aside

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When you say step aside dont you mean walking away?

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STV and BBC Scotland online running the story.
Ticketus would not cover the 500k non refundable deposit for TBK and the knights wouldn't stump it up either.
Ticketus talked to Ng and he offered them better deal. (cause Ticketus are Singaporeans)....sounds like Singaporeans stitched up P Murray at the 12th hour.

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No. Id say stepping aside.

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Yeah Murray stepped aside when Ticketus didn't pay the 500k lol.
Ticketus dumped Murray and joined their Singaporean Ng.
NO stepping aside-- utter rubbish being fed to us again.

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Ticketus had been negotiating with ng for 2 weeks, long before the 500k was asked for, once Ticketus got a better deal with ng it was game over for the BKs.

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16 Apr 2012 21:14:15
Blue Knights are out the running!

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Like most of yous they are DOING WALKING AWAY WELL

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16 Apr 2012 21:06:58
Am I right in hearing bill ng has joined forces with ticketus?

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That's what I've picked up.

McWulf

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Can we assume that with Ng joining up with Ticketus his wealth is definately not "off the radar"?

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NG has made a better offer to Ticketus than TBK.CHECK OUT BBC SPORT

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We could always let NG buy the club BEFORE we start ripping into him
give him a bl**dy chance ffs!

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The personal wealth of ng is irrelevant as is his deal with Ticketus, Rangers are only worth a certain amount and Ticketus has their 30 million secured through CW's foating charge on assets.

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16 Apr 2012 21:09:04
if the BK are out of the running, and paul murray being so rangers minded do u think he'll let the fans know anything in regards to whats happening, its panto stuff and im honestly stumped n dnt no wot to think or believe, total farce! TO MANY CROOKS SPOILED THE BROTH! ntbear

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They have walked... administration soon

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Also read ticketus in talks with one of the other parties, does anybody else find this strange? i dnt doubt that they should be paid what there owed but they seem a bit keen to reduce this debt. ed do u think there not too confident of getting it without being involved in running the club? but as i said am stumped ntbear

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Sounds like Ticketus have walked and will liquidate for sale value of Assets.

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One step forward two back what the f--k is going on

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It's called slowly walking away!


"newburgh"

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16 Apr 2012 20:49:11
the blue knights have walked away ...........th

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True . Just heard it , OMG.

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D&P weeded them out.

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Check out the hearaldscotland website... liquidations a cert

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Confirmed on the bbc sport website.

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They think its 'unbelievable' but if they go onto their own clubs website they will find its very 'believable'

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Its the usual blame game,Blue knights Blame ticketus and Duff and Duffer blame the blueknights. Seems they were unwilling to even pay a deposit out of thier own money and they wanted ticketus to. Who can blame ticketus for looking at a better deal when theygoing to be ripped of by rangers anyway.

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Source please?

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What is going on? We need answers NOW!!!

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Ticketus had been in discussions with the Singaporean consortium who, on Friday, had offered Ticketus a 'substantially' better deal to the one offered by the BKs

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I thought they didn't do walking away

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BK never had the finance. No surprise there

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Yep, Blue Knights step back in Rangers bidding race.
http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/football-news/article/2737834

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EH and you thought they wouldn't? Remember when Jock Wallace was the manager and you couldn't get 10,000 at ahome game? Yes I do! You DO do walking away!!

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16 Apr 2012 20:39:39
The Charlatan that is Craig Whyte is baring his teeth again. Did he not say he would give the supporters his shares, he simply does not know the meaning of truth. He is bordering on unbelievable. I really believe that he is incapable of telling the truth.

Why when it is illegal to use a company's assets to buy that company, and he has admitted it, why have the police not charging him. So much for his patsy pals, Duff & Phelps, who claimed he was irrelevant.

He will be the end of us, and him and Duff & phelps will walk away with pockets full, job done.

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He only bought them for a £1 remember , I am sure he had that of his own cash at least.

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D&P totally contradicted themselves. Something liars normally do.
They said Whyte was irrelevant. Then they said a bidder had to do a deal with Whyte for his shares.

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He didn't use the assets to buy the club.He sold them to pay a debt.He bought the club from Murray for a pound.

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Potentially breaches of company law, not criminal. Worse that could happen is he gets disqualified again.

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Any way of getting rid of CW without paying him?

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CW has indicated he will sell his shares for a nominal amount to any bidder who takes over his Ticketus guarantees.

Its all good, he makes and loses nothing out of liquidation, he is not in a very strong negotiating position to ask for any significant amount.

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16 Apr 2012 20:32:41
Alex Thompson [real reporter] on radio clyde tonite, spoke more sense in fifteen minutes, he is not having a dig at fans, but trying to find out the truth, Reporters in scotland are scared to ask questions,

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Just exactly what did AT say that was so NEW? GER1952

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Heard the Interview, didn't see report on C4, however, if all that he has added to this sham is that Martin Bain had an EBT and that he requested shredding well that prob explains why he was sacked. It will do no good knowing who got EBT's. Ye sure we will know who rec'd cash but what will that solve. HMRC will be looking into this and I'm sure they will have details of all those who rec'd payment via this method. I would guess that most of these payments were to the directors. I don't see this guy as picking on Rangers and if a journalist did as he states threaten him, then all i can say is that he has done the right thing in reporting the tosser to the police. To jump on the guy's who sit in a radio phone in and write football reports for not doing enough investigative journalism i found a bit strange. I have never read an Investigative report by any of these guy's, that's why I would watch Panorama or the business end of the newspaper, which lets face it if you rec your financial news from the sun or the DR, good luck to you. What chance do these guy's have to investigate anything anyway when most of the calls relate to trivial matters that run for nights on end. The latest if which includes a demand for a penalty that never was when the ball clearly strikes the hearts player on the hip, and argueing over the ref giving a penalty for a Ledley / Wanyama handball when both players did.
I do think elements of the Media were slow on the uptake on this but it is a very complicated case which has run on and on for years. HMRC are themselves treating this as a trial, so we are dealing with uncharted waters here. Does the media have an agenda against Celtic?...............
Of course they do, as do the SFA the SPL, the referees, the linesmen, the fourth officials, all the other teams in Scotland, ex players, celtic fans who say the other team deserved to win etc etc etc etc. NL say's its personal !!

maybe this will help!

www.wikihow.com/Stop-Taking-Things-Personally

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To me he just sounded like a guy with an agenda against us for some reason
DaveG

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Knowing which players had EBT's does matter. It will allow the investigation to cross reference registered contracts and ascertain if players had dual contracts contrary to the articles of association. If this is found to be the case then rangers will receive 0-3 score-lines for each game. The logical consequence of this would be the removal of titles. So really, knowing who had EBT's is the key to ensuring sporting integrity and justice

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Great, How many games did Martin Bain play for Rangers?

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We must know who got paid EBT (loans) so that we can get them to pay it back. I suspect that, not only Directors but players and managers of Rangers got these loans and are now sitting on the cash as Rangers CRASH!

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16 Apr 2012 19:31:07
roger hannah on radio tonight saying that most of the press are aware of 'very big news' but for legal reasons can't publish the issues.

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BTC result against Rangers. Rangers to be Liquidated by Friday?
The published accounts showed no ongoing cash and indeed a loss every month also.

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Me thinks you lost the BIG ONE !
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN RANGERS HAVE LEFT YHE BUILDING!!

"briggies"

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Blue knight have been given preferred status

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While he obviously couldn't say what it was, did he alude to it being very big good news or very big bad news?

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Rumour has it (Herald journalist tweet) that the Blue Knights are out of the running...

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Blue knights have withdrawn

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The blue knights were offering zero to a CVA and zero to Craig Whyte who said Paul Murray would never get his shares and Murray said Whyte would never get a penny for his shares. TBK were a financial joke.
The Blue Knights were always irrelevant and had the silliest possible name.

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Bill Ng has agreed a deal with ticketus to pay back 14m in a shorter period of time tha the blue knights were going to pay 10m,the blue knights cannot match this deal

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Blue knights have stepped back to let Ng bid take preference as long as it is NOT liquidation. Will still honour their own bid if it is Liquidation. source duff and phelps. ger 1952

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Rangers always seemed to be getting liquidated on Fridays. Over these past 2 months that's all we've been reading. Yet still here!

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Tough luck Briggies - wrong yet again

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16 Apr 2012 19:00:54
SFA have today warned the SPL and the SFL to sort out there differences on league restructure or face being disbanded and a New national league of Scotland being created by the SFA.

BBC News.

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Thats a great idea!

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Is the English Premier League managed by the member clubs or by the English FA?

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Yeh, that'll be great 'cause the SFA are super competent!

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How can SPL clubs manage an Premier League when they are dire at managing themselves? Football management of the companies is in the hands of I'll educated untrained incompetents who cantt manage going to the toilet.
Get some professional management involved with MBAs.

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As long as incompetents at SFA are removed

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Rangers fan here before yoy all go mental. This could be a way of the authorities getting round RFC getting sent to the 3rd div. Or ahm I just be para.

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SFA creating an atmosphere of threat to ensure Rangers get minimal penalties to remain in SPL.
Good old Campbell Ogilvie.

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16 Apr 2012 17:37:14
Good to hear trevor Francis and the young
lad at bolton have been discharged from hospital

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16 Apr 2012 17:29:04
wonder who will be counting the gate money tonite at the u17 match more importantly will it be shared

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For security reasons youve got to pay the wee guy called Craig at the gate !
Just slip it into his pocket please have correct change as no change or refund will be given

"briggies"

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Minus the money for the damage caused by 'away fans' ger1952

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Gate money would be counted by the stewards and then sent up to the counting house along with the tea bar money n stuff, from there f*** knows who gets it, probs the admin team

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16 Apr 2012 17:06:17
Rangers owner Craig Whyte has warned that any bidder for the crisis-hit club will have to "thrash out a deal" with him.

Mr Whyte claimed that he has spoken to two of the three parties interested in taking over Rangers.

In an interview on Monday he said that he had held discussions with both the Blue Knights consortium led by ex-Rangers director Paul Murray and the consortium led by Singapore businessman Bill Ng.

He told Press Association Sport that he had not yet been contacted or spoken to Bill Miller, the American tow-truck business owner behind the third bid for Rangers.

Mr Whyte said: "I have spoken to two of the bidders, the Singaporean bidders and the Blue Knights.

"But I have not spoken to Bill Miller and I have no plans to speak to him. He has not made contact with me.

"I am happy to have a conversation with him or anyone who is interested but it is my understanding, through third parties, that they (Miller's consortium) want liquidation and that is no good for the club.

"But anyone who is named the preferred bidder will have to talk to me and thrash out a deal."

Administrators Duff and Phelps were scheduled to announce their preferred bidder for the club last week, but postponed doing so after the Scottish Premier League unveiled proposals that set forward a clear path for a "newco" Rangers to buy the crisis-hit club’s league share....jsm

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Scary how this guy is still looking for a final pay day. Hope to god he isn't in any way involved with potential new owners

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He owns the Club any buyer will need to deal with the owner to expect anything else is simply infintile!!

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Who the f!ck does Whyte think he is he wants money for what head did cheeky b!!tard ... Kenny bluenose

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He owns rangers and all the assets

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Only a few months ago Rangers fans were describing Craig Whyte as a financial Genius due to his small court cases and picking up Aluko, whilst Aluko paid 200k to Aberdeen.
I believe CW is a Rangers fan.
D&P have declared him irrelevant. D&P have done some dodgy unusual things in this administration. How is he irrelevant when he is in total control of who gets Rangers? And D&P have stated a buyer has to do a deal for the shares!!??!!

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Craig white has helped RFC get out of this mess ! He deserves more credit once the dust settles you will see hes done this for the good of RFC
"Newburgh"

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Craig Whyte has simultaneously made a few bob for himself and got Rangers out of paying most of a massive tax bill (well not yet he hasn't, but they can't pay it so...). Got to admire his nerve.

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16 Apr 2012 16:59:59
craig whyte has finally told the truth... his comment was "the sfa is farsical" and he wont be attending hampden for hearing...jsm

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True the cabal have shown there incompetence on many an occasion

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16 Apr 2012 13:25:44
All this talk regarding RFC Fans Boycotting away games to punish spl clubs!
Your not turning up to fill the pockets of the other clubs!
YOU ARE THERE TO SUPPORT YOUR TEAM!
How does boycotting help RFC ???
Grow up and take your punishment (let off lightly ) with dignity ! And stop the childish tantrums!

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I like many others are 100% behind a boycott, however not every club deserve it, just the ones who have been happy to stick the boot in when we are down, or are trying their best to get us more punishment, and it will also prove the point that without Rangers Scottish Football will slowly die away, little or no money coming in, drop in sponsorships etc etc, so climb back on yer high horse mate and butt out.

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I think you may find away support will drop as a natural consequence of team performance. It is fairly obvious that RFC will never again be in a position to field a dominant team of comparable quality.

Recent results with both Celtic and Rangers have demonstrated their inability to consistently outplay their SPL opponents.

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If rangers are liquidated i for one would prefer to start again in the 3rd division. There seems little point being in a league where we will be handicapped with a points deficit for the forseeable future. Lets just see if the other clubs have the balls to go for this option, it seems to me however that they want to punish rangers but at the same time they still want to make money from rangers being part of the spl.When the push comes to a shove i fully expect them to take the cowards option despite what their fans want and this will not be rangers fault.

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Childish tantrums? quite ironic considering the actions of the lemon? the reason for the boycott is ppl kickin us when we r down but unfortunately for them we r not out, they know who they are :)

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Some teams defo do not deserve to be boycotted,

cant see it been fair to boycott ross county as they have no say on anything just now but will be part of league next year,

also teams like inverness and dunfermline (if they still up) who have refused to put boot in shouldnt be boycotted either,

however teams like dufc and the rest will be open season,

and then they will have the chance to prove what they have been saying to us since we've went into admin, that they dont need rangers fans to come to there ground to survive.

well guys this is there change to see if thats correct or not,

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Come on get real 3 year point deduction
3years if F**k all in the long term !
How will you pay for the running of Ibrox and Murray park ?
Answer is you won't no murray park no developing of young players ?
So if you can't afford Ibrox , Murray park , no young talent comming through and what big signings will you attract to 3 rd division ?
You just ain't making sense ! The other spl with just have to cut costs and live with it and they will !
The world will not end WHEN RANGERS DIE !
"briggies"

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Why the f*** is this allowed to be posted on a "Rangers" "Rumours" website, its not even a rumour.......just a weak attempt to wind people up.

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The only reason the SFA/SPL have come up with the points deduction - but we can still play in the SPL is that they are frightened out losing the SKY deal and sponsorship money, they are looking after themselves financially. If we are liquidated, then yes Div3 is the only fair route back to the SPL. If we go bust i would rather go down this route than accept any favouritism from the SFA/SPL, just so they can make money from us, otherwise the Celtic fans might cry foul play and continue to play the conspiracy/victimisation card.

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I must apologise my post regarding not being able to afford Ibrox Murray park in 3rd division !
Sorry mate that it was not a RUMOUR
MY MISTAKE BUT IT WAS JUST FACT!
"briggies"

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At this moment in time all the talk of points deductions and financial penalties are just that...talk...nothing has been decided yet. Let us see what happens in the vote. For this to take effect it has to be an 8-4 vote. If anyone votes against the Gers, then we boycott the B@@@ds, but for now all it is, is sabre rattling. Let them talk!!

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Rangers fans wanting to punish other clubs for Rangers' crimes. That's really rich and classy, tells us loads about such guys.
The SPL is an organization doing bare minimum to punish Rangwrs and u want to punish the other SPL teams who are actually individual separate entities to SPL.
Nasty people.

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If RFC were dropped to the 3rd division why would that be good for Scottish Football. We would just not go to these games either.

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Rangers could not survive in Div 3-2-1, their basic overheads are way too large for a small turnover. Its like asking a giant supermarket to make money with 75% of its customer base gone, and drop its prices because of inferior quality goods.

Rangers would be back in liquidation within one year, its just not commercially feasible. Rangers fans are just going to have to live with the plain fact that the SPL could survive without Rangers, but Rangers could not survive without the SPL.

Seriously bears fans, how many people are going to buy a season ticket ( of any price) to watch RFC vs East Stirling ?

How many fans are going to pay £25 to watch Alloa ?

If 25% of fans turn up at half price then in effect the gate receipts would be one eighth of their nomal average. It just does not add up.

TAKE YOUR MEDECINE AND MOVE 0N.

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The SPL aint doing the bare minimum to punish rangers.

they are doing the maximum to keep rangers in the SPL and save there financies,

That is the only reason they are trying to bring in new rules to allow rangers right back into the SPL, its not for the sake of Rangers its for them

they didnt do this when Dundee, Livingstone, motherwell or grenta went into admin,

but as soon as it was rangers and i bet if it was celtic they would be doing the same,

these new rules are about self preservantion of the SPL. nothing more and nothing less, and no fan from any club can deny that,

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Nonsense "kicking Rangers when they are down". Your board has been cheating the system for years and still owes clubs money. The club DOES want a new Rangers back again, but not without some kind of recognition that Rangers pay back that which isn't theirs.

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I would welcome Rangers boycoting any away matches. It would save towns and cities all over the country having to panic twice a year about Scotland Shame coming to visit. At least the crime rates would go down and locals wouldn't need to listen to their knuckledragging bigoted songbook. Please make this happen Rangers, it would be better for scottish football in the long run.

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So let me see Rangers fans want to pay HMRC 10p in the £1 money when all the spl clubs paid there tax in full !
They want to pay same to all other creditors who will loose an absolute fortune some going
The RFC fans think their being picked on because of a points deduction Wtf.
To let them back into spl
Yes spl would loose money if RFC went to 3 rd division ! Do you really think after not paying debt spl should beg you to come straight back in !
Hard done by my a**e ! The ones who being shafted is the ones you took good of and failed to pay !
company's should boycott RFC from the clubs / paper shops / taxis oh and the face painters as you cannot be trusted to pay !
Your arrogance is shocking !
Just deal with it 3 years is f all

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I fail to see that giving a financial penalty to a club who has broken every rule in the book, is "kicking us when we are down" you are being given an oppertunity to stay in the top flight of the spl or face going down to the third division,which will probably cost you more.funnily enough,the clubs you infer are kicking you are clubs stiffed by you.what do you expect when you owe them money?? naw, forget about it,yous are rangers after all !! that is why you deserve it.cos any club that owed you money was forced into oblivion by YOU ! and on another note,hearts ,hibs cup final,brilliant,cant wait. JAM TARTS !!!!!

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16 Apr 2012 09:33:55
i have heard with these delays in preffered bidder status that it has opened the door for another late bid for rangers its pub talk you heard anything ed or has there been to many shandys drunk {Ed001's Note - I have not heard a thing, it is most likely a delay down to bidders doing their due diligence, though that can lead to a gazumping. Certainly it did at Liverpool, when DIC were doing due diligence, Gillett & Hicks jumped in and bid an extra £6m, so they ended up getting the club.}

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That's not a good precenent Ed001. Look what ultimately happened under their stewardship !!

Scoobs {Ed001's Note - exactly, there are far more examples of bad owners than good owners!}

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This is wishful thinking.

Obviously unhappiness with remaining three bidders.

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Gillet & Hicks - that worked out really well - careful what you wish for, highest bidder does not equal best possible owner!

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None of the three bidders are talking about investing in the team to make Rangers SPL winners material.
None of the 3 bidders are talking about keeping any of the current squad..
Only the BK are true blue noses the other two have agendas which have nothing to do with Rangers. They certainly don't want to chuck money at funding meaningless Scottish cups and titles.

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