Rangers Rumours Archive March 13 2012

 

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13 Mar 2012 23:17:10
brian kennedy will make a bid for Rangers although he was a hibs fan but his wife and her family are all Rangers Daft , and said if paul murrays bid is better he will stand back he even says big tax case isnt an issue with his bid ,interesting news fellow bears.

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49 million is always an issue

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According to tomorrows sun a big American bank want's to buy Ranger's

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Keep hearing about the tax issue its NOT proven yet. Also keep reading about Shyte buying for £1 etc The Club was not sold for a £1 it was sold for £24M &£1 in apparant good faith (£18m debts to be paid off & £6M team investment) If the Shyte had paid his dues for the club and paid with his own cash we would be solvent. Unpaid tax for 9 months would have been affordable with the money we are payin D&P

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Sone aluko could be about to put in a late bid with all the money he saving after getting a wage cut. Now he does not have to pay himself so much

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Would that be the American bank that owes $1.3 trillion?

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Brian Kennedy....I always wondered about that name....Hibs fan of Irish decent....watch his name drop from this board like a dead cat from a ship.
After wishing and praying he'd buy Rangers for so long.

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The big tax case isn't an issue coz he is like the rest of the vultures waiting in the wings,preparing for the ownership of a newco rangers without the past debts.

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A catholic owner of Rangers? Do fans have a problem with that? I read one post on here saying he'd take the Vatican bank.

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Why would anyone have a problem with a catholic owner of rangers? If you do, your a moron

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To the Gers fan who thinks his club was solvent.

As soon as RFC did not reach the group stages of the CL in 2011 they were operating at a loss of 10 million !

Rangers gambled every year and if they qualified for the group stages they broke EVEN !

So how does any owner get his 10 million back if the company breaks even as a best case scenario.

The reason Rangers are in this mess is precisely because they were trading while insolvent for years.

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No there in this mess because quite clearly tax wasn't getting paid the club was bringing the debts down when Lloyd's had control so quite clearly must of been making profits somewhere

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The tax was not being paid because it was being used to finance the operating loss caused by CL early exit.
Rangers accounts clearly show they break even on a 55 million turnover and lose 15 million on a 40 million turnover. The 15 million is mostly CL money and Rangers went out in August, 3 mnths after CW took over.
CW gambled and lost, he was not prepared to put 10-15 million of his own money( if he had it ?) with the BTC looming. There was a player firesale in January and nothing happened, Jelavic just balanced the transfer costs for that year. He called in the Administrator.

Regardless of the Big Tax Case, Rangers were being mismanaged to break even IF they were successful and in 2011 they were not.

SOMETIMESYOU NEED A BIT OF LUCK IN BUSINESS.

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RANGERS LOST 16 MILLION IN 2009 AND MADE 4 MILLION IN 2010.

Compare the two season in terms of football success, it is obvious the club was being mismanaged.

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Have never heard so much mince in all my life about breaking even on fifty five mill, last time accounts were issued wage bill was at lowest ever 16 million out of 40 odd million turnover with 4 million profit, where did all last years season ticket money go???

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13 Mar 2012 23:08:40
Since Tennants can't sponsor kids shirts could we not find a different sponsor just for the kids shirts to make extra money?

Does anyone know when our Umbro deal ends

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Why dont you just beg ! oh you have !

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I recall we had to change our sponsor on the shirts for one off games in France when I went because of rules on drink adverts think it was centre parcs that we had - think your idea is great for when we are out of the mess ! Always thought that it was crazy having not allowing it on shirts anyway because not being allowed simply highlights to kids Tennants is a drinks firm, if it was there kids would not even ask ! kids want to be same as their players and sadly its only the big beer companies that can pay for it

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Cigarette and booze advertising shouldn't be allowed anywhere.

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Is Top Deck still kicking around? Get the wee monkeys on that first before moving onto the hard stuff.

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Buckie! we should be advertising something the fans can relate to!

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13 Mar 2012 22:09:14
Duff and Phelps are at court again next week requesting that they become official administrators in their own right, as they are there at the moment due to the club being put in to admin by HMRC, do not really expect this to be put up on the rumours board as its not a rumour its a fact, and once again more costs at court - Ed you have stopped printing my stuff and I dont know why, if the genuine fans know this, and it appears they do not - then they may be asking more questions about Duff and Phelps - rumour and this is a rumour is that if they dont get officially appointed then they will file for liquidation.

Diamond Geezer - Source, Court of Session Web Site.

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For starter Rangers were put into admih by C.Whyte not HMRC fact if they are applying to get official administrators in their own rights the is a possibility that the C.Whyte deal has in deed been found to be null and void they would then have to reapply for admin as C.Whyte s application would be illegal as he put us in admin without being the legal owner of the company

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Drivel

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Its something to do with the FSA regulations and some procedure that should have happened before D&P were appointed by the Courts as administrators. Ed - am I correct ?

Gav {Ed001's Note - most likely it is nothing important, just a mistake in the paperwork, as the courts did appoint them. But I haven't seen the paperwork they filed to see.}

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To correct the first reply - CT Whyte tried to put the club in to admin but HMRC beat him to it, so you are wrong my friend - and the secong comment of drivel - you can call it that if you want, buts it true drivel, and Ed if you want to see the document it is were I said it is, on that document you will see that D&P are trying to do this officially and it has a bit to do with "The floating charge".


Diamond Geezer - thanks ed ! {Ed001's Note - have you got a link mate? My eyes are too sore tonight to go rooting through looking if I don't need to.}

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The administrator was nominated by CW and approved by the court, HMRC were not involved in the process.

Rangers are in enough trouble without all these conspiracy theories about D&P, it is there job to protect the interests of the creditors including HMRC and CW, it is not their job to protect RFC.

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The person that posted about conspiracy theories obviously does not want to admit or believe anything, there is NO conspiracy, Duff & Phelps were at court on Monday of this week and go back again next week, now where is the conspiracy, this costs money as did going to the high court in London to talk about 3.6 million, after the costs that wil be deducted and things that have now emerged since then - I am talking about the 3 million that went to RFC in error, surely the administrators should have picked that up when trawling through the books ? So its no conspiracy, all I am doing is highlighting that everything they are doing is costing money, a hell of a lot of money !! and on your fisrt point you are correct that CTW nominated the administrator but he did not out the club in to administration, HMRC did so they were involved in the process - big time !

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Craig shyte put the club in admin not hmrc

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It may be something to do with being reappointed to extend dates. There's a key tenth of April date and if they are reappointed that extends into middle May.
Go to court on 19th and listen to arguments.
Risk is court can appoint any administrator if it wishes and HMRC will obviously attend and push for another court appointed administrator.

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Hmrc did NOT put the club into administration, it was a voluntary application by the clubs owner Whyte, HMRC applied to the courts for a named administrator by them to be appointed, they did not put the club into administration TF or we would be in a worse place

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Guys it is simple; if Whyte was not legal owner then D&P appointment is invalid. If this is the case then 2 options arise; HMRC move to have their choice of Admin appointed....more costs and a new and rigorous Admin process ensues. Or we sit in limbo and in court apointed Admin whilst actual owner is clarified, could be Murray ! So be careful what you wish for here.

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Will take a court case to remove CW as owner. Not enough time to do that in short term, so CW has to give blessing to any sale and will be legally entitled to be paid. Interesting that nothing has been said by PM & Blue Knights about what agreement/dicussion they are having with CW over any potential purchase. Can't see them being able to only pitch to D&P without talking to CW as well.

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Rangers has no money to agree a CVA this will be new owners money, depending on his largesse/ wealth 100p, 70p , 50p in the pound. But Ramgers are skint and why should a new guy pay for d Murray's golden years and Craig Whytes 9m tax?

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15 Mar 2012

RANGERS’ admin-istrators were going to the Court of Session today to try to invalidate a deal over season tickets bought for £24million to help finance Craig Whyte’s takeover. Shouldnt really slag posters off when you cant read 15th IS BEFORE 19th or did you just omit it because it was good news or maybe you should gather all the fact before speculating an opinion

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Oh dont be to surprised to see BLUE KNIGHTS/FANS takeover football side and AEG takeover Stadium side of Rangers F.C or Rangers (2012)ltd depending on outcomes no one can predict

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13 Mar 2012 20:34:32
What happened to David Edgar?! Has he jumped into bed with craig whyte? The tw4t was never out the press a few years ago!

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He retired from the RST due to family reasons and now runs a Rangers podcast.

You sound like such a lovely person

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Love him or hate him he had Rangers best interests at heart,unlike white.

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Heart and Hand - the Rangers podcast.

100% pure staunch

And pretty funny for that matter...

Quote of the year from David - remember how you felt on February 14th and never forget it, and never forget that we are the people

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The guy is embarrassing himself and our club!!Don't take any notice of the blethering old fool

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13 Mar 2012 17:18:07
ED.... Any news on Alistair Johnson's complaint allegation to Police (fraud squad) that there was some kind of illegal fraud during the Rangers takeover? {Ed001's Note - I can't really get into that mate, with it being a police investigation there is nothing we can really say. We do know, as is common knowledge, that he has asked the administrators to look into it too, but that is all I can say to be honest, until they complete their investigation.}

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Why did it take Alastair 8 months to come forward with his belief there was a fraud?

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He probably always knew it was dodgy, but didn't want to say anything as long as it benefitted gers. As soon as the agenda became attack Craig Whyte he jumped on the bandwagon.

One clear issue is if he deliberately with-held knowledge of a crime for 8 months.

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13 Mar 2012 18:36:36
D&p are getting worried and my extend deadline as various groups interested in buying club can't put their money were there mouth is...it seems they all want to own club when it becomes liquadated ...no one group will commit to cover the whole debt if the worst happens

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Never heard so much pish in aw ma days

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No doubt you sat in a meeting this afternoon with D&P and they informed you of this.

D&P haven't spoken to all the interested parties yet. That's the process this week.

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Of course nobody will buy Rangers, only interested in newco.

would you pump money into a company full of debt, with a huge tax case on the horizon ?

come on guys, get real, this can only end one way. Its time to stop listening and start thinking.

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Cw owns a £1 million pound castle, which he could get a mortgage for....

So far there are claims he not paid a penny for his shares - so come friday if he offers £1 million - he could get all 100% of rangers... and the only person to stop him would be someone willing to risk more than £1 mill...

he could be playing a blinder - getting rangers lock, stock and barrel for just 1 million.

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I have heard that D and P have lodged something at court today,. To make them administators to the administartors . I wont pretend to understand but there is an action lodge today maybe someone brighter than me can tell us what is going on.

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And wereis cw going yo get the other 9 million he owes Rangers from original sales contract

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Cw rents the castle he doesnt own it

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You think anyone is gonna give CW a mortgage after whats came out in the last few weeks? LMAO...mortgage his castle....LMAO

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All bids will be conditional, the condition being a CVA that includes all tax liabilities, assets and ticketus.
No one is buying Rangerrs without a CVA writing off most of the debt and clearing up ownership of assets.

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Why are D&P in a rush to have an owner in place before a CVA?
Is it because there's zero money to give creditors (no money to run club, never mind pay creditors) and they need owners money to pay David Murray's debts in a CVA?

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Craig Whyte purchased Rangers/ his shares for £1.
There were 'agreements' in the Sales Purchase agreement including paying the Lloyd's £18m debt. There was nothing to say he couldn't sell his own tickets to do that. Also there were no time constraints when he had to do the other things, so in fact, he still can do them. Legally, he hasn't done anything wrong and indeed could argue he hasnt had sufficient time to do a lot of things.
Ally getting bumped from 4 trophies ruined all the cash flow projections and tipped rangers into Admin.

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" Ally getting bumped from 4 trophies ruined all the cash flow projections and tipped rangers into Admin ".

You are one of the few posters who recognise the financial damage this caused. Rangers broke even IF they went through to the group stages of the CL and lost 10 million if they didn't.
Throw in a few million for the other cup exits and you have a club losing a million a month on a tiny turnover.

It is simple, the club has been mismanaged for years.

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Whyte was told Rangers would have a good run in Europe, the cups and the SPL cash projections were put up on overheads, he bought into David Murray's hard sell. Ally f**ked him, the fans and the club.no new owner could actually dip into his hard earned over many years and just pay out £13m to cover for Ally cutting off 4 revenue streams then 5.

Natural justice has actually seen the players who helped stuff the club take financial pay hits which is rare in football.

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Huge redundancies are inevitable to get this club onto a sound footing.

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13 Mar 2012 18:01:24
Ticketus are going to fund the blue knights.
Is the same ticketus that funded the whyte knight and its all ended in tears?

Why aren't Paul Murray and the rest of his consortium putting their own money into the club? They want a share issue when they get in power but how can this happen when CW is the 85% majority shareholder?

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Sure there will be a way. Ill gladly give him his Pound back. But ill give him a fiver and WANT CHANGE!!!!

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CW's shares are sold by the administrator, he can't stop them.

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They are putting there ownmoney in they just not got enough

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Did the administrators not already say CW is entitled to nothing cos he has not spent his own money to buy Rangers? it was money from Ticketus used to pay the debt. CW is due heehaw

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Rubbish ! only if the club is liquidated will administrators be able to sell whytes shares. or a long protracted court case to try and prove he doesnt own them. which he does cos he paid a pound for them !

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Administrators do not have the authority to sell shares of any company they are administrating. C W may not be a preferred creditor, but he is the majority shareholder.

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Blue knights are putting money in ,the ticketus agreement is for the dept we already have,they aint borrowing it will b the terms of payback

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Correct Admin can not sell his shares but they can sieze and devalue them and because of SFA s not fit and proper ruling there is not a thing he can do about it

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Ticketus are shagged, it looks like, they will never recover their money because they were conned out of it.
Despite the fact this is obviously reasonable better news for Rangers, I actually feel a bit of sympathy for them.

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Well, the Blue Knights are investing money...and I would guess between them it is likely to be substantial to clear the current mess and get the club on an even financial footing. The share issue is to widen ownership of the club to the fans and also provide further financial investment - but this can only be successful once the club are on an even keel.

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13 Mar 2012 17:39:04
1st time poster and looking forward to the mighty gers getting rid of whyte and getting new owners in however does anybody know that if we do get new owners will whyte still own the ibrox and murray park? and if so would this be a seperate sale or rental we would have to do? honestly dont understand all this so any info would help WATP

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There can be no new Owners unless Whyte sells them his shares to make them the Owners. You cannot be an Owner without owning the shares.

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The administrator does not require CW's permission to sell the company, they represent the interests of the creditors not the owner.

CW's involvement is only as a creditor.

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If he sells his shares do the new owners get the assets?

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I think i remember PC saying that he had the power to take CW shares.

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God im getting bored of this. whyte owns 85 % of rfc shares.administraters job is to keep the company running and try to find a way to satisfy creditors.they CANNOT sell the club without whytes say so,unless it goes into liquidation.then if whyte can prove he is a secured creditor. he still gets most of the money WAKE UP FFS. !

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CW owns Rangers.That's a fact.Don't like it,he's done us up like a kipper.Unfortunately what we feel is morally wrong,is legally OK.No one,inc the administrators,can force whyte to sell.Whether we like it or not,anyone buying the club will have to deal with Whyte,somewhere down the line.

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CW can not stop the administrator from selling the club as the owner, he can object as a creditor.
THE ADMINISTRATOR HAS THE CHEQUE BOOKS AND THE BANK ACCOUNTS.

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As I understand it, Whyte or his company has security over Ibrox and Murray Park, even if he club were to be sold. Now Rangers still own these assets, but it does pput Whyte in a strong bargaining position, as it means these assets could not be sold and leased back (one possible way to generate finance) without him relinquishing his security.

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13 Mar 2012 15:43:58
PAUL MURRAY today confirmed his Blue Knight’s consortium will lodge a bid to buy Rangers and meet this Friday’s deadline for offers.

Speaking from London after he held crucial talks with the club’s administrators, Duff & Phelps, Mr Murray also told the Evening Times he would proceed with the plan – which will heavily involve finance company Ticketus – only after he has shown fans groups “all the fine detail and receives their full backing with complete transparency absolutely crucial”.

Mr Murray is hopeful the Blue Knights will be granted ‘preferred bidder’ status to take control of the club through a Creditors Voluntary Agreement.

However, there remains takeover interest from groups in Singapore, North America and also from Scots businessman Brian Kennedy, the owner of Sale Sharks Rugby team.

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Wonder if he's spoken to CW? End of day CW has to agree sale of his shares - or not.

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Sorry to put a cat amoung the pigieons but are the spl/sfa not looking to see if he is a fit and proper person.

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He falls foul of the article which states any office bearer within the 5 year period immediately prior to an insolvency event ( nothing in the brackets about being sacked nine months previously, last time I calculated that was within 5 years). Ex Rangers directors should just go away quietly and not try and bring back their bad old days.

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This sounds to me like he is using the Ticketus money also ? and the bombshell will be season book money going to pay them

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The blue knights have 2 chances at this,very little and no!

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He's promising Ticketus their 4 years tickets as per contract or an immediate pay off after a shares issue. Either way it's fans money. I've just read the rangerstaxcase.com website, which I have to say, is very enlightening. I didn't know Paul Murray had previously stated that any purchase of rangers before the big tax case resolution was not thinkable, now he's actually doing it. I also think he is fronting previous old board directors who want the post liquidation corpse of rangers. Fans money cannot sort this out.

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Paul Murray and the others know its Liquidation. They want the corpse of Rangers and Whytes shareholding to enable ownership of Ibrox and Murray Park. So they can own a NewCo.

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Paul Murray wont be allowed anywhere near rangers for at least five years as he has been a director of a company who have went into administration and the blue knights consortium are getting their money from Ticketus to try and fund the buyout. Anybody else see a familiar pattern forming here. Will you never learn.

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Fellow bears,there will be no CVA.Seen PMs plans published today.More borrowing,more pleas to the fans,only pledges from Blue Knights.Please look at facts as we're now entering a critical stage.SFA/SPL licences are running out(if not renewed we can't play anywhere.this is fact before anyone comes on with pleas from the heart).Fans from other clubs are ganging up against us.Channel 4 investigating contracts,Polis looking into things.Treat every piece of info carefully,study the facts then decide.

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Would anyone be suprised if this was a plan all along sdm wants rid of club bt no one will but step up ticketus , so cw n sdm agree supposed sale using ticketus money clubs sold cw scapegoat taking flack for tidy profit clubs debt from loyyds paid off within 3 to 4 years well something along those lines any other thoughts on it

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Brian kennedy says big tax case not an issue with his bid.

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13 Mar 2012 15:25:31
Life long Rangers fan, Stuart Dougans CEO of Rockstar Energy is going to invest a large amount of money into his beloved Rangers to help the club out in these dark days, the sum is believed to be around 25 million, this investment will only come if Mr Whyte is no longer at the club!! WATP

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If anyone puts in money it won't be an investment because they'll get hee haw back. So if you think your man will give £25 million of his hard earned cash to pay your debts then you are seriously delusional.

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Mate read the papers most investors who were interested have now walked ..There was only Paul murray There is no profit to be made ..

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Like to believe this one mate. If true, i look forward to seeing it made public.

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Papers talk mince ;) WATP

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JEEEZOOOO

see this "if mr whyte is still there nobody wants to invest"

nobody will invest while we have debt as it stands, nothing to do with Whitey Shi*ey.

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Another white Knight that didn't want to buy Rangers over the last 3 years, he could have bought the company for a £1 last year, now he wants to invest 25 million into a toxic black hole, go figure.

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Why not add chick young and jim traynor to the list of possible investers

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Chick young and Jim traynor make money out of rangers, they don't put money into rangers. Chick is more honest with the support than Jim is. We know that.

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WATP = We Are The Paupers.......and until we all realise that and stop looking for some magic solution the longer we will stay poor. The only solution is hard graft and time....lots of both.

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And what paper has stated that half the Blue knights have walked? only as far as i can see there is only 5 believed to be confirmed and more on the way?

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Yeah they are just queing up to buy a loss making company up to its eyes in toxic debt, surrounded by preferred creditors and future footballing sanctions.

The legal wrangling alone is enough to put you off.

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Most of the investors have now walked! Can you name me one?

The so called Rangers supporter - We Are The Paupers, speak for yourself mate, I don't think the majority would agree with you. Those four letters are part of our identification.

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The first reigning Scottish Premier League champions to go into Administration!

History - WATP

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Why go for a cva when phil duffy of duff and phelps says when asked if they work,his reply was the majority do not and that hmrc are rejecting a large amount of cva ,this was phil duffy who set up mcr with david whitehouse and this was on their duff and phelps website,what do you all think

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If HMRC are refusing to accept any CVA then its liquidation, plain and simple.

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13 Mar 2012 15:00:14
People keep asking how they can help Rangers financially, an easy way to start is to buy tickets to the matches. For example Rangers Legends v AC Milan Legends. Who has got tickets?

GovanFR

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Why should we, the fans, bail these folk out. Remember, some of our players are still raking in £5-6K per week. It would take me 18 weeks to earn this sort of cash. Our players should be playing for free.
Our so-called top earners have already earned £m's from RFC and will all be able to name their price once the summer transfer market opens.
I refuse to give a penny more. I cant afford it and I know there are many out there likewise.
Your money is going to pay off the debts of our former owners/directors debts (Paul Murray included). Well, mines is not.

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To the 2nd poster, GTF we dont need part time fans like you. I have my tickets and my mrs even has hers!

www.redblackrangers.com - get a scarf too to show your suppirt for the club. £10 with £7.50 to the club.

J

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I know we All love Rangers - but we can't let our heart over-rule our head - Rangers have been run into the ground by greedy corrupt businessmen - the best way to help Rangers is stay away - let it die - keep your money till the new Rangers is born.

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I was asking for the people who want to help Rangers, if you don't that you choice but put your views elsewhere. Just out of interest though you couldn't afford £12?

GovanFR

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The money was for charity now its for a charity case shame on rangers they wont be getting my money for that game

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Got my season book, dundee tickets and milan tickets, and any other tickets that become available I will take.

ill stick with my red,white and blue scarf though.


ryanrfc

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I have my ticket cant wait to go, should be good, and anyone who says we should let the club die and wait for the new rangers to form is full of craig whyte! Yeah that makes perfect sense let a long standing history die because you dont want to pay 12 quid, if you just dont want to go to it then fair play cant fault youon that, but to say let the club die is just stupid and not very supportive.

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Why dont you send your £12 to HMRC. that would help rangers no end they can start to pay back the money they have robbed from the nation

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Send your cash to dundee utd ! hearts ! dunfermline ! rapid vienna or her majestys tax authorities

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This is a charity match - rangers will get nowt.

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This is a charity match - rangers will get nowt.

Actually the Rangers Charity Foundation have agreed to give the club most of their share.

GovanFR

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That is for charity??????????

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The game was supposed to be a charity match now they have moved the goalposts.

It's like the English FA, they had to rename the Charity Shield as the Community shield when it emeged that the money raised didn't go to charity.

Why should we sponsor a fraud? If the Rangers charity foundation can decide to give their money to a Ltd company then they should be investigated by the charity commission!

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13 Mar 2012 14:59:01
As a true blue this fund that is getting set up.I will not give 1p to it I have bought my season ticket for 20years.I did not get this club into this mess.

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Putting your money where your mouth is - quite often a good indicator of intention - apparently you've chosen to keep your's in your pocket, relatively close to your erse - enough said.

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I agree you shouldn't need to but I look forward to seeing the abuse you will get for voicing your opinion My friend was subject to dogs abuse for trying to leave a match 5 minutes before the end Rangers fans should stop turning on each other and other clubs and demand answers from the guys who have been running the club

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If you do not donate then your 20 years is going to be liquidated, plus another 120 years.

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None of us did but if we dont help you wont need to buy one again as wont be for sale

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Thats a cop out, why punish your club for the actions of a few. Its not the clubs fault.

Bravo, you have bought a season book fir twenty years but when your club hit hard times you wont shovel a penny in to it.

Love your logic. I am not responsible for the problems, ive paid for my season ticket yet im still putting money in because i want the club to survive. If you want to deprive your club of a future over some petty wee point your making then be my guest. Not the sort of viewpoint i would expect from a lifelong Rangers follower, if all our season ticket holders are like you then we are in trouble.

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If that's your attitude then go watch someone else i too am a season ticket holder have been for many years and I will donate whatever I can too help the cause , I agree we shouldn't have too make donations but is rather donate money too the cause than watch us die we lapped up the glory years now we must help our glorious club out and hope we have another 140 years WATP

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Think of it this way, if Rangers had not been trading fraudulently and insolvently for most of your 20 years, then your season tickets would have been double the price.

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We were told this fund would not assist blue knights. Now Walter has joined them and he controls the account what's that about?
I smell a rat, I believe p Murray is the only bidder and he doesn't have enough dough so we're all to be sheep now and go along with his option.
I don't like the present or previous directors. We all have our opinions and shouldn't get dogs abuse for voicing them. Oh and I believe Walter knew exactly how his players were paid and their contracts. Every manager does, it's called managing his transfer and spend budget.

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So you bought a season book when the big signing were flowing in? b ut when times got hard you bail?


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I too have had a season ticketfor over twenty years i m also a shareholder but unlike the previous post i have just gave a donation and will set up a standing order each month till the club is on a sound footing then will buy more shares if there is a share issue hame on the supporters who say they will not give to fund but i be if and i pry when we are back on our feet and hopefully winning agin they will be in there milking it for all they r worth shme on yous our club need your support now not only in the good times

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I hope you're to young to have followed us through the bad times of the 80's and not a clown who jumped on the bandwagon of 9 in a row. In any case if you don't to want to support your team then we
don't need you

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The club you support needs you, the fans you cheer with need each other, ive paid my hard earned to go to ibrox for donkeys, paid it for countless strips, meals, programmes, pies, away days etc etc etc, rangers have given me great times and hard times thats football but when the time comes to stand up you turn away for the sake of a few pounds you tight arse-i bet your the type of guy that will claim to of helped your club in a few years when things have settled down when you didnt do a damn thing- go on prove me wrong-im bear- time you act like 1
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If you take away the bigots and the glory hunters then you are left with 25,000 true blue football supporters.

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Ryan fc he will still buy a season ticket so what r u talking about to many idiots on here the man is right an shd not get slagged for having his point

TB

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Well with fans like u the direct debit with a steady monthly incom going into club is knackered mon t fek ladz make a sacrafise not just for the club bt for eachother stand together

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25000 ok see wot u saying if u dropped the pricing n maybe brought back the terracing making the game more affordable to low earners n families treble that amount

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I am going to make a donation but the money had best be used to assist the club and not channelled into some dodgy area by the administrators. Desperate for us to get through this but as long as that wee Shyte bag Whyte owns his shares and has any association with the mighty Gers I won't be ploughing a large donation into the fund.

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Go and get yer green and white scarf then. if 200,000 at matchester put in a £10 each its a good start. im just waiting on pay day, As earlier post says good times and bad and during the bad we have to stand up and be counted

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If the 200000 at manchester put in £25 a month then wed be sorted if 20000 fans put that money in then we be fine too its not impossible

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Are you all mad ? we can call it a club but it is a business it has shares not memberships. we pay to remunerate professional players and staff. some of these guys were paid too much. (deafening silence from that quarter)
i've been shopping at tesco for 30 years but if they go bust should i go and give them money ? everyone must wait and allow the administration process to run it's course. giving them money is like throwing petrol on a fire.

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Question to all Gers fans from a shell shocked neutral:

Did you know your reserve GK was on 12k per week and played 20 games in 3 years at a thousand pound per minute ?

What does the first team GK of Hearts earn...4k per week ?

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You are entitled to do what you think is right. Buying programmes eating the food drinking the bovril is all part of it. I live away from Scotland so cant get to the games but I buy lots of gear from the Rangers club shop, all the kits for me and my 7 year old son. Im gonna buy a season ticket for next year and hopefully get up once a month. I want Rangers to be here for my sons, mysons sons and every generation from then on. If I have to be out of pocket for this to happen then so be it. Remember WE ARE RANGERS....WE DONT DO WALKING AWAY

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Not a Ger but get completely where your at. Why GIVE money to any consortium. If they don't want to pay for the club then they should p*ss of an let others who do get on with it. I'd be worried if they don't get to buy theclub waht happens then? And even if t did go int the club is it just going to be used to pay Duff and Phelps, Whyte, Ticketus. Its a disaste. No sane person would put money into it. Sure you dont want liquidation. But you'd be better throwing 25K into a wishing well then giving it to the exact same people that got you into this mess Murray Smith King

David

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13 Mar 2012 14:39:42
What are peoples views on fan ownership a la benfica? A great proposal put forward buy www.rangersunite.com surely this would be a fantastic success for one of the worlds biggest and best supported clubs. It means a say in the running of the club and excellent model put forward for the benefit of the club. At least give it a read WAPT

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Rangers nor Celtic are considered one of the World's biggest or best supported clubs except by Old Firm fans themselves.

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We need to get CW to give up his shares first. Interesting article in today's Scotsman about it.

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This could work and very well. would be ab awesone outcome

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To the 1st poster u av only got 2 google it to c they are regarded 1of worlds best ssupported clubs

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This might work for a new co but could never raise enough to pay current debt

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13 Mar 2012 14:31:17
Hi guys,just been looking online about the whole 2 contract situation,bad news that channel 4 is getting its teeth in to.Seems we could lose a s**t load of trophies.E

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Even channel 4 state "if we are found guilty". Good try ya plum.

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Where and when is this programme on ??

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Looking where i cannot find anything

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Since the thing about the two contracs came out I've not heard one person at rangers deny it. Not david murry, walter smith, mcoist or any of the old directors. I think it definitely true

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Check out channel 4 blog online,about this issue nothing to be mocked or laughed at, this is serious stuff.

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They all had two contracts as well lol......
One at the SFA and one at Rangers lol....
Or three contracts? Two at Gers one at SFA!

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Another nonsense post, read it again and ask yourself where the facts are.

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This is the godzilla in the room

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There is documental proof I'm afraid.

Denying wont let it go away.

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A few ex players at rangers the time it was MEANT to been happenin have came n says they only had one contract ie albertz n few others n says there happy to b part of the investigation as they have nothing tae hide

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Any manager who manages a football tranfer and salary budget, knows all the contractual details.
If find it absurd to be told that Walter didn't know anything about EBTs or two contracts. It just appears to be another Rangers lie. and I think they're lying about trying to keep it going post Administration, I think they all know its Liquidation, but they want to blame the big tax case for liquidation, however the money is running out before the big tax case finding is published.

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13 Mar 2012 14:08:16
Afternoon ed any possitive news regarding a take over SW {Ed001's Note - nothing new mate, these things take time and any potential buyers would have to look over the accounts before finalising a bid. That would take time for them to do.}

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13 Mar 2012 12:32:32
With hindsight,does anybody think Duff & Phelps should have got rid of the big earners(coaching staff as well) straight away to level things out at the beginning and ensure funding?

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Why would they? Big earners have a residual / resale value that offsets liabilities on the books. They are in the asset column. By getting rid, it makes the books look even worse and the value of the club is less.

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Yes their strategy and actions and statements have been very unusual.

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In releasing the big earners from their conracts one is giving away approx 15 million pounds of saleable assets, this reduces the value of the club and in turn reduces any sale price.

Then you are left wth the problem of Ibrox being filled until the end of the season watching reserves getting beat in meaningless matches.

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Fielding £15 million of assets each week to play meaningless games is similarly rediculous.

Three or four bad tackles and these assets become crocked and worthless - why would an administrator play these assets... when they can sit on the bench and retain value

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You can get dispensation to transfer players in admin,they would have got a fee for the players.as things stand nothing will be gained from them

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If CW has his 18 million secured against Ibrox and Murray Park then the players are RFC's only saleable assets, I do not think the creditors would be too pleased if the administrator gave them away for nothing. These players probably represent half of Rangers current value.

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The creditors will get something when the players are sold at the end of the season or are included in any sale price.

This is not about what is good for Rangers, it is whats good for the creditors, in this case the British tax payer, of which I am one.

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In releasing the big earners from their conracts one is giving away approx 15 million pounds

your having a giriffe

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Do you not believe Rangers would raise 15 million from the sale of Naismith, McGregor, Alexander, Whittaker, Davis, Edu and Bocanegra ?

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They should have got rid of them,you say they are worth 15 million ,when they took the pay cut they wanted to go on a free if someone came in for them and as there was no signing on fee they would get there money back so no 15mil assets.D&P are at it b

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Maybe d&p should look at reducing their hourly charges.
On another note dont you think other clubs no rangers plight and will offer well below asking price hoping on a bargain

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Naismith 1.5m (would be more but cruciate damage on both knees?)

McGregor 3m (Value has definately decreased with a few howlers this season)

Alexander(Do me a favour 500K at most)

Whittaker 1m Tops (Is anyone daft enough to take this liability on)

Davis 2.5m (Another whos value has decreased this season due to lack of form)

Edu 1m (Thats being generous)

Bocanegra (No sell on value due to his age)

So i would say the players you have mentioned will fetch around 9.5m

Only other sellable asset would be Wallace, maybe 1.5 for him but owe Hearts £800.000

Grand Total £10m ish in my opinion

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The administrator has not agreed to any free transfers at end of season, these conditions were rejected by the administrator.

assets still for sale.

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10 million is not a small amount in Rangers current financial predicament, especially to the creditors.

In fact assuming CW has secured 18 million against Ibrox and Murray Park then its all Rangers have. It may be just enough to keep HMRC from pursuing Rangers into liquidation.

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If we sold off the players and had zero wages we wouldn't be passing the RFFF begging bowl around.

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If Alexander is only worth 500k then why were Rangers paying him 12k per week for the last 3 years ?

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The begging bowl is in anticipation of a drop in attendances, Rangers can only survive if they have working capital.

How many would turn up to watch a reserve team with few first team players ?

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And what happens after your last home game and your decision not to go to away games so the other spl teams dont get rangers supporters money and they dont visit you ground what income do you have after the last home game it will be would the last one out turn off the lights b

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13 Mar 2012 11:52:36
Channel four are investigating the two contract situation with regards to Rangers directors holding posts in the SFA.If collusion is proved that means UEFA sanctions against both parties.This could turn into Scottish football's Watergate.

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What date & Time is this on?

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Yes it seems C4 has set the cat amoungst the pigeons . Follow C4 journo on @alextomo.

Doesnt matter whom takes over what ,when ,and how much ,the face of Scottish football has been dealt a massive blow by the goings on of RFC and their friends within?.

This must be dealt with in the must severe means available to Scottish football or if not football fans thoughout Scotland must insist on EUFA sorting it out !!. TTTS

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Racketeering?

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The sfa put the phone down on the guy alex thomson,channel 4 news correspondent halfway through a phonecall today because he asked questions they were uncomfortable with,the heat is on!!

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Regan hung up on channel 4 news ..s**t is hitting the fan big time

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The truth is out there!

And the SFA and RFC are trying to hide it!

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Was Walter Smith, as manager of Scotland, still a Rangers Director? He was made a Director very publicly by D Murray.
He's quoted today in DR as sitting on board with P Murray after his return as Rangers Manager for second time.

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Why cant the RFC board and the SFA be honest institutions?

This is making us look like a backward and corrupt wee country!

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C4 should stick to Hollyoaks and The Simpsons.

Why are they so interested all of a sudden? {Ed001's Note - because there is a possibility that Rangers have cheated! You should be wanting this kind of investigation to, hopefully, clear the name of the club. Instead you are whining because someone is interested in finding out if you have played by the rules or not!}

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ED - fantastic upstanding reply! Obviously a man of genuine integrity.
Get yourself onto the Rangers board. The club needs people like you.
No more smoke and mirrors, illusions and bending rules. No more 'managing perception' through affiliated hacks. No more placed men. {Ed001's Note - I just like fairness and fair play. Don't we all want to win because our team was better rather than because our team was cheating?}

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No ed its the motives for finding out {Ed001's Note - well obviously the motive is viewing figures. But wouldn't you like to know if the club has been cheating so that it can be put a stop to? And hopefully put other clubs off trying to cheat as well. The big issue for me is the SFA, they need to be fair and seen to be fair, or it will end up like Italian football!}

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Rangers FC + SFA = Corruption. I said months ago that this would all come out in the wash. Thanks to the antics of both the SFA and Rangers Football Club, scottish football is a laughing stock. Our governing body and Rangers are, and have been bringing shame on themselves and bringing our game in to disrepute.

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If there's racketeering involving contracts which means money, there could be criminal charges brought. The main thing is that the innocent don't try to cover up for the guilty through misguided loyalty. For they normally get taken down harder than the original miscreants.

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Do we all honestly think there is a shread of truth in this outrageous thread. The fact that everyone is talking about it makes a laughing stock of the uptight fans never mind the football.

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UEFA will be involved by the end of this month....the SFA will, if not already, find out that there was indeed additional paperwork that was not part of any registration. This puts the SFA in a place they do not want to be, UEFA will decide on the next course of action.

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Have i missed something here have rangers been found guilty officially yet?, how can celtic fans call SFA corrupt when they compained about refs then get a british record number of penalties given all we seem to read is what should happen we are corrupt we have brought scottish football to its knees nothing has been proven yet in the big tax case the alleged double contracts so get off the high horse and gie's peace!

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Mud sticks mate.
Whether rangers win or lose the BTC they are on their knees, like it or not.
They would be in administration WITHOUT the BTC so, in effect, they are dragging Scottish football through the mud by being one of the biggest clubs in the world and being in administration.
Time to take your head out of the sand and look at the big picture.

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Will that be the same UEFA who will be dishing out a rather large ban or fine for your banner expressing your love for them.

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When will rangers fans realise-IT'S NOT CELTIC'S FAULT! Hitting out at a banner that a couple of fans made?don't u have enough to worry about?the scandal is becoming a daily occurance now!

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My banner!!??? Get your facts right, I presume you are talking about the banner that was displayed by Celtic fans? But for clarity on the UEFA situation yes........and the same UEFA who expelled Sion from the UEFA and allowed Celtic in via the back-door for irregular registrations! The hidden contracts will be dealt with in the most severe manner do not kid yourself on they wont...albeit it still does need to proved....accepted!

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If Uefa get involved all clubs from scotland will be banned from Europe and the national side banned from the World Cup & European Championships because there have been directors from Rangers serving in the SFA for years and that will mean the SFA have been corrupt.

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CH4 have no allegiance. Is it not good that there is an independant investigation? Are we not supporters of the truth?

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Wouldn't surprise me if channel would run something like this, after all dosent S Cosgrove run the show there?.Says it all really.

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It is simple cheats never win.sorry but the truth always hurts,another tip keep your pennies in your pocket till you get rid of white,he is laughing all the way to the bank.by the way i have more sense than the lot of you ,and i am 12.BY,BY

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The minute there is a danger of rfc and sfa being implicated of cheating-the inevitable talk of all scottish clubs suffering comes out! get a grip,you cheated,take yer medicine and move on!

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Assuming someone unravels Rangers toxic black hole of debt and actually buys the club under a CVA, what business plan do you operate under if Rangers face sanctions from UEFA, SPL and SFA ?

Rangers lost 10 million every time they did not make the group stages of the CL, even if they won the league and a cup. How much would they lose if they are prevented from winning anything for 3 seasons ?

Any buyer must take into consideration future earnings, these sanctions must affect the price paid.

This can of worms is going to bring Rangers down in my opinion.

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S cosgrove poster could you please explain ?

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You cant be A Gers man If you need an explanation re Cosgrove.

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Look at the big picture? the big picture is we are guilty of of nothing till proven, so what we are in administration we will come out of that and if the BTC was proven it will be a british football issue not just scotland because the use of EBT is widespread in the upper reaches of EPL. so we cant be chastised then the EPL teams walk off scot free! dangerous precedent set by HMRC our heads are not in sand as you put it just fed up with non rangers fans getting involved with crap posts, lies and foundationless rumours

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Listen to yourself!
The RFFF has been set up to fund DAY TO DAY operation of the club. That is, to keep the club running as a going concern!
Do you honestly think rangers will just "come out" of administration? Not unless there is someone with deep pockets and no sense waiting in the wings. And what does it matter if EPL teams are involved? We are talking about rangers here and the SPL. It wont be a dangerous precedent because if it's found that the law has been broken then rangers will be punished. Anything that happens to ranger will be used as precedent for clubs being charged over EBTs or defending their use of them.
Your head is further in the sand than I first feared.

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Has it ever entered your thick skull that
the world will be watching what happens
to rangers and don't you think that ALL
other clubs with an EBT interest would ALL
have covered their own backs by now.
Pretty much in the same way as the SFA
& RFC have probably done, by getting
rid of all incriminating evidence.
You's are as guilty as sin on the EBT' &
the Tax cases. NO MATTER WHAT THE
"OFFICIAL" VERDICT STATES and not
only that, THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS.
Justice must be seen to be done or the
whole of Scottish football should turn
it's back on our excuse for football.
I am not a magician but people like you
are experiencing illusions on a grand &
daily occurrence.
Sorry to smash 2 of those illusions but it
is for the good of your health:
(A): Scottish football does NOT need U'.
(B): Your manager is utter GARBAGE.
AND EVERYONE KNOW'S IT.

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13 Mar 2012 11:34:24
Guys are we going to the Dundee Utd game this week?? I am all for supporting our great club but i am also for letting the rest of Scottish football understanding that NO RANGERS SUPPORTERS = NO MONEY!!

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Everyone knows Rangers Supporters, club etc = No Money, no need to send the message!

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I'm not going to utd , neither is the bus I go down in , f£ck them!

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Not sure - our supporters club where talking about sending our tickets back and I was up for that prove a point plus united hate us but after last week and what the players done to try and save other jobs at the club I want to go and support them.

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Save your money for Ibrox, needs must.

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Aren't United still owed money ? Not sure they'll be bothered.

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Dingy Utd game and pack out Ibrox.

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Punish United for Gers failings?

Nice club.

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What are you on about.. we owe them the money..lets not embarass ourselves any more

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Utd wont miss the money as they've already charged us twice for the same game a season or two ago

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What does that say about Rangers supporters?

Punishing other clubs for Rangers crimes!


Says it all!

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Unfortunately I don’t think it is other clubs we should be aiming our aggression at these days - are we trying to like blackmail them here?

I am surprised to read some of our supporters on other forums believing that we are about to be taken over and take Europe by storm while on others poopooing reports of investors backing off as media mischief making.

I do believe the media have been a problem in this whole sorry saga but not by what they have informed us of - quite the opposite.

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Why punish united 2words eddie thomson , mind your own .

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"Punishing other clubs for Rangers crimes!"
Nobody complained when they were the benefactors of Rangers alleged crimes.

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As a utd fan we don't want use to come anyway, ur all bigoted animals whow don't pay their way !

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Celtic fans pretending to be utd fans, lol, the mhanks crack me up

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Rangers fans need to get a grip and realise that their current situation is not the fault of any other scottish team Look nearer home guys You are entitled to be angry but dont take it out on the wrong people

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Why is it all of a sudden we are all bigoted animals, yeah you could say that for the minority as with EVERY other club, you dont know me or half the people you are refering to so shut it. And another thing just because Rangers as a club dont have any money that does not mean the fans dont have any money so get a grip and go back to your own page. However i dont think not going to the game gives the players much backing, they need the fans to give them a lift as well thats why we are called supporters, as we support the players playing for our club.

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Who bla
ing other teams , eddie thomson hares rangers and makes no attempts to hide it , also took a. swipe wen the club is down so thats every reason to punish that man . another lawell

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Is this the same team that charged us TWICE for the same game?picking on the right team this time.

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How do you know they're not United fans? I know, because you're paranoid.

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Err - Eddie Thompson actually passed away a few years ago - it's actually his son Stephen who's causing the animosity on this occasion...But point taken.

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Haha. Why would a Celtic fan be concerned if there were any Rangers fans at tannadice to see Rangers get skelped by a far superior United team? Not everyone you disagree with is a Timmy.

(I am a Celtic fan)

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Beg your pardon rip eddie thompson stephen thomson
thanks

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Do you ever stop to consider that this arrogant 'no one likes us we don't care' attitude is exactly why so many are enjoying your current plight? Why not use this situation to rehabilitate your reputation.

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Steven Thompson is responsible for the running of Dundee Utd, would you be happy if Celtic owed Rangers and you never had a cats chance of seeing it, we are not talking 2 or 3k here! Also I would be careful with the arrogance towards other SPL clubs currently Rangers need their support, I doubt a CVA can be agreed even with the Blue Knights investment, if the FTT goes South which by all accounts it will then a Newco is the only option and Rangers will need the votes of these alleged "SPL Scumbags" be careful what you wish for!

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I for one am not going i maybe go to dunfermline game even tho we have paid them because they acted with alot of dignity

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When they charged us twice for a cup game a couple of seasons ago there chairman said and i quote, well it is rangers!! its not the supporters who owe them money, its why*e....

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Save our money to pack ibrox every home game. I dont care what the rest of scottish football think about us! we have hugely bankrolled most of the premier league clubs for years by giving them huge ticket money! we are the reason the spl introduced 10,000 all seater stadiums as this allows the smaller clubs to fill there pockets from our loyal supporters!......Why should we pay anymore to help Utd.....Im sure our players will understand DONT GO SAVE YOUR DOE!!!!!

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To say utd have not acted. With dignity is a joke considering the way your club has been run

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I agree boycot UTD that thompson is trying his hardest to put the nail in the ibrox coffin, i regard this boycot as a must to show thompson he can try and kill us all he wants but we will never give him our money

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Im going to tannadice - not for thompson but to support the team - they deserve the maximum support especially after making wage sacrifices

ryanrfc

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I'm a Rangers Supporter and I'll be there supporting my team!

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Giving the ticket money to the fighting fund would be a good idea?

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Boycott tanadice give the money to rfff or even marie curie make thomson suffer tho . to the poster careful wot u wish for if we do go to div 3 yous will suffer as much as rest of league all those contract to honour n stadiums to run wit a fraction of the income , we know were hated in scotland but if we suffer then so will yous n if the other clubs do hammer nails in the coffin i hope they suffer

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So the rest of the SPL is now to be thankful to Rangers and accept them back so not to suffer!! That is why in your words not mine "You are hated" the arrogance is unbelievable......as an earlier post remarked it is everybody else's fault that Rangers are in this situation and should be showing sympathy towards gross mis-management of their financial affairs........however one point I would agree on if you are not going to the game then there is no better place than Marie Curie to send your money to....some common sense has prevailed!

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The rest of the spl should be thankful for years theyv hav had 2 sometimes three visits a season from us which has kept there clubs ticking over , recieved players who couldnt quiet make it at ibrox for not alot of money aswell as the money the fans are spending in there stadiums. not to mention the extra advertising money tv money executive n hospitality that comes wi the visits from rangers so yeah they should be thankful not kocking wen were down oh btw not ev club has done this and its well noted . now how is that arrogant its realistic isnt it ?

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You do realise your " HUGE TICKET MONEY" works out at about 1 extra game a season?

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Ask yourselves when you have played your last game of the season with no income what is going to happen to you. another coloured scarf, a bigger bucket,remember this is how ticketus make money they loan loads of teams money for the period between the end of the season and the sale of clubs season tickets because its a period of no income b

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To those wanting to boycott the game, fine and totally understand your reasons, to those going to game to support the players the same - each to their own choice of what to do ! If at the game why not boycott the pie stall - its overpriced anyway, dont buy a programme - full of crap about how they are 'delighted to welcome todays visitors' etc, we make the point and help the needy & homeless in dundee when 5000 pies are sent round to charities after the game !
They all know they will be poorer without a Rangers but have to be seen to be making a stand and saying right things to their fans !
Each of us needs to make our own decision AND respect the decisions of fellow bears -lets stick together

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Well said

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I will be going to support the team the lads need our support no ones going to dictate to me its nothing to do with utd fellow bears follow the team if you can

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13 Mar 2012 10:08:24
Henderson Global Investors fund manager John Bennett has joined the Blue Knights group

http://www.citywire.co.uk/new-model-adviser/hendersons-bennett-joins-blue-knights-to-ride-to-rangers-rescue/a573594?ref=new-model-adviser-latest-news-list

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13 Mar 2012 09:40:53
Keith Jackson article in DR quoting Walter Smith throwing his hat in the ring with Blue Knights.
Also some incredulous quotes about debts being zero at takeover and previous board having nothing to do with current situation.

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Well after Whyte paid Lloyds the 18 million there was no debt. Only the big tax case. He is right CW and his lack of funds has put us where we are !

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He didnt tell dny lies . he also calling out the people "delibraley not understanding the situation" ebt case aside he spot on. ebt is a personal vendetta from taxman , why just rangers n not the 12 epl teams n 5 championship teams who have also done exact same as rangers?

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Ok first untruth: at takeover there was an agreed £4.4m tax debt totally agreed by Rangers with tax man.
Second untruth: At the takeover, as Waltwr knows, Craig Whyte became a secured creditor for £18m. For paying off Lloyd's.
Really is there anyone associated with Rangers who tells the truth?

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I am confused now does this mean RFFF is collecting for blue knights? Because I don't want P Murray or other directors near the club? Is Walter now completely conflicted?

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Just out of curiosity mate,what epl and championship teams r u reffering to?

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According to previous accounts, Rangers break even if they qualify for group stages of CL, and lose 10 million if they don't. Rangers were out of CL in August less than 3 months into CW's reign, and he seems to have been unable or unwilling to finance this loss for a season.
He structured the sale in such a way that if Rangers lost the big tax case then hi money and RFC assts would be protected but

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I think people are going to be shocked how little RFC is worth to anyone, all this talk of bids of 50 plus million is pie in the sky. A year ago it was worth 18 million and they have lost 10 million since then, and the big tax case is looming.
They are buying a club that must qualify for the group stages of the CL to BREAK EVEN !

Successful businessman are successful because they do not pay over the odds for business ventures that aim to break even every year.

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@ first untruth guy what are u talking about this is at whytes door this is wot everyone was told icludin walter smith so wot point are u making , hows he a liar ??
epl clubs there are 12 clubs apparently used ebts , just look at the biggest earners or ecen search google n youll come across it plus all the image rights scam aswell , all prem rugby teams have used similar schemes. if rangers lose btc then things will be intrestin

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At Whytes purchase of Rangers there was an undisputed small tax case amounting to £4.4m fact. Walter has said there was zero debt. Whyte then ran up £9.1m kn unpaid PAYE and VAT, together makes the tax debt currently £15m.
Also on takeover, rangers owed Whyte £18m.
Unchallengeable.

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The clue here was in the first line....Keith Jackson....the veracity of the story ends there.

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I remember Walter being raised to the board by Sir David. I suppose he could have remained a board member as manager of Scotland before returning. Suppose PLUS stock exchange has all the records.

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If Rangers was worth 18 million last year and it has lost 15 million this year, then in effect its worth 3 million as a going concern. There is no Europe next year so another 10 million loss is guaranteed without cut backs in wages. If they sell the highest earning players they may raise 15 million to pay off debt, and cut costs to break even next year.
From May 2013-14 Rangers will be run on a break even basis WITHOUT having to qualify for the group stages of the CL.

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Remember that the £18m debt owed to Lloyd's. Then owed to Whyte after the takeover. Was the remnant BO'S debt David Murray and old board had run up. So for Walter to be quoted by Keith Jackson saying the previous board have nothing to do with this is ridiculous.

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The current £49m plus interest BIG TAX CASE is totally the old board. Totally sitting at their feet. NOT Craig Whytes. What is Walter/ Jackson on about?

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Walter quotes in the DR today AFTER he returned, Paul Murray was on the board and as he(Walter) sat on the board he heard how Paul spoke passionately on boardroom rangers issues. So Walter was/ is on the board, in a John Greig kind of way....

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The old extremely quiet school are trying to save their positions.

Murray and the old cronies have to be replaced.

Mismanagement has been going on for decades. The supporters were just unaware!

Ebts 75 million are legal. But if they have been abused/misused then they are illegal. Thats what the tax case is all about.

Then we have the illegal dodgy double contract fiasco.

Walter and the board unaware of these too?

We need a board we can have confidence and trust !

We need a clearout and a new board. a new order!

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Interesting, so Walter Smith may have been a Rangers Director whilst the Manager of the Scotland Team?

Channel 4?

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I always wondered why Rangers players were rarely available for Scotland duty unless it was Walter andAlly at Hampden, then they were all fit and positive about Scotland duty. Then when Walter and Ally went back to Gers, they weren't available again. Statistics are all there to see.

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13 Mar 2012 09:31:25
ONE of Northern Ireland’s political heavyweights has offered his services to Paul Murray’s Blue Knights.

John Taylor, a former deputy leader of the Ulster Unionist Party, is willing to inject cash and use his political clout to assist Murray’s bid to take control of the stricken Ibrox side.

The 74-year-old became Lord Kilclooney when he was made a life peer in 2001.

A lifelong Rangers fan, the Armagh-based businessman, who owns a string of weekly newspapers in Ireland, spoke with Murray on Saturday and is set for more talks with the Blue Knights frontman.

Lord Kilclooney said: “Speaking as a Rangers fan, I feel Northern Ireland needs to be directly involved in any share situation which involves a new management structure at Ibrox Park.

“I am prepared to lead on this from this side of the North Channel. Tens of thousands of loyal Rangers fans live in Northern Ireland and it would be devastating for them if the club was to either go into liquidation or limp along in its present, financially inadequate state.

“Paul Murray, when I spoke to him, said he was very conscious and appreciative of the value of the Rangers support in Northern Ireland and we have agreed to meet up.

“Men with Ulster connections, the likes of Moses McNeill, were founders of Rangers and players from there wore the royal blue jersey with pride, including current captain Steve Davis, Kyle Lafferty, David Healy and Andrew Little.”

In 1972, Taylor – then an Ulster Cabinet Minister – was the subject of an assassination attempt by the IRA.

He was wounded in the face, throat and chest in the attack which took place yards from his Armagh office

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This is getting out of hand. Rangers don't need this type of support!

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Lord Kilclooney said: “Speaking as a Rangers fan, I feel Northern Ireland needs to be directly involved in any share situation which involves a new management structure at Ibrox Park.

Why does Northern Ireland need to be directly involved? He sound like just the guy you lot need.......not!

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That's all Scottish football needs is a stronger connection to Ulster.

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Exactley what i was gona say Joeshmo.

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As opposed to strong links south of Ulster going elsewhere

whats your point caller?

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Absolutely appalling.

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Get a life you talk about connections to ulster when your club fly the flag of a foreign nation the tricolor your majority shareholder is irish you have flight loads of supporters coming over from ireland week in week out. and you have the nerve to come on here and bitch about links to Northern Ireland


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I would hate this man to become involved with my club.We do not need this type of investor.

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U always get a clown on here that contradicts himself,like celtic not havin any support south of the border..aye rite u r mate
To be honest I'm a here fan and both sides r as bad as each other when it comes to that side

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This kinda support , what a politician?? cos hes from ni hes black balled wtf your as bad as eachother then surely

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A politician and an upstanding respected person and "we dont need this kinda support". catch a grip hes no paramilitary. This man is a rangers fan through and through. Hes lead a repectable life and like most of us over here distanced ourselves from violence. I suppose all us Northern Irish bears are terrorists......disgusting

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Since when did we have proper links to NI?!?! absolute joke, im sick of this nonsense just because celtic have irish roots we have to have northern irish roots...

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I don't want Scottish football to be linked to the North or the South of Ireland.

p.s. The rivalry in the South is between Liverpool and Man Utd, in my experience.

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The replys to this post is absolutely shockin seen folk sayin they'd take bain n johnstone n that bk but no this guy all cos he's a ex uup politician wae rangers in his heart like the rest of us ... i'd for one b happy with him.. a totally agree with the 2nd above post no all ppl from ni are terrorists n this guys no one ..

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Hope this is really just a rumour How will we ever get rid of the sectarianism out of Scottish football if we go down this road There is peace in Ireland now we don't want any trouble here in Bonny Scotland

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I cheer both Celtic and Rangers on in Europe because they represent Scotland, not Ulster or Ireland.

When will we ever get rid of this foreign disease ?

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I wish someone would explain the "special relationship" that exists between Rangers and NI? Celtic fly the free state flag as their founders were from there,and the whole ethos of the club is linked to Ireland.Why do Rangers want to foster this link?

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Is the name of the club not Glasgow Rangers as the other one is Glasgow Celtic....neither have Belfast or Dublin in their names. Surely this is the last thing Rangers need right now ?

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Foreign disease ??? anywan never told ye northern ireland is in BRITAIN ?obv most of you's have never been to northern ireland or met any ppl from n1 there no all about bombim n shoutin ye'll find majority of them don't want to b associated with the troubles there .. fur the no strong roots to ulster .. why do we fly the red hand flags ? sing songs from northern ireland n hence why do most gers fans support linfield ... seems like half of yous are only contradictin yourselfs here

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Do we really need this baggage..this is the sort of stuff that will drag us to the abyss. I would rather we go under and start again than have this type of person connected to the club

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Celtics roots are irish. Ulsters roots are in scotland. This is fact. In Ulster the ulster.scots.movement is massive and the links between rangers and ulster will always be there. Be proud of them as we are. This man is a victim of terrorism not a terrorist.

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I would be happy if the Northern Ireland support stopped coming - they are a big part of any problems we have - sooner we are shot of that the better we would be going forward.

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First of all Ulster is not in Britain, it is in the UK, Britain is the geographic name of our island. I don't care how many non-Scots support Scottish teams, but I do care when they use our football teams as political vehicles when its not our politics.
The status of the island of Ireland has nothing to do with us, it is an Irish problem, keep it out of Scotland.

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A big part of the.problems. dont dare tar us.with the same brush. we are rangers fans and british. our societies are almost the same. so much.for rangers family and WE are the people

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If Ulster fan roots at RFC are in Scotland and Irish fan roots at Celtic are in Ireland then they are both lost and confused.

May I suggest all of these fans return to their Scottish roots since their club is patently Scottish.

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Ulster politicians? thanks but no thanks!

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Did someone really quote Ulster Scots in the 21 st century ?

How far back does one have to go to find these roots ?

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" we are rangers fans and british ".

RFC is a Scottish club, it is not a British club.

I have no problems with citizens from the North or South, all are lovely people, just keep your politics out of Scotland and out of Scottish football.

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Hes a rangers fan. he should be thanked not shunned

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As a Celtic fan who live in the North of Ireland.. the ONLY reason you shouldn't welcome him is that politians have NO PLACE IN FOOTBALL! Dr Reid was gladly seen ending his tenure at CP, by plenty of fans. But more importantly, would you trust a politician at your club?? none of them can be trusted to do anything other than "see what they can get out of it"....
Not just Ulster Politicians but ALL of them from all parties should NOT be allowed to play a part in the running of ANY club......
Imagine Alex Salmond sitting next you at the next home game........ seriously, would you want that?

Nah me neither!

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I am sure 5 milion Scots would be delighted to have their two biggest clubs owned by two opposing political factions.
Especially since their politics have nothing to do with Scotland, maybe we should let the Israelis and Palestinians buy the Old Firm ?

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We need to weaken our connection with the sectarian supporters in Northern Ireland. Distance ourselves.

This what got us punished by Uefa last year and started the slide and bad reviews by the media all over the world.

Since then all the news has been bad and getting worse each week.

They will drag us down further.

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Craig Whyte is a Rangers Fan.

Thankyou Craig?

You should not be shunned?

Think before you type!

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The last thing RFC needs is to strengthen the bigotry!

We have to do the opposite!

Rangers and Celtic should Distance ourselves from the sectarian bigots!

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" Rangers and Celtic should Distance ourselves from the sectarian bigots! "

Money talks, both clubs have been guilty of cashing in on a social disease.

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Craig white is a.gers fan (appatently) your right, but your assuming hes gonna treat us the.same way as white. think before you type.also yes we do need.to distance ourselves from the bigots but bigotry exists in scotland dont try and pin it on northern ireland. The majority of us are NOT bigots.

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Yes True. But who condones it more? This NI guy would be endorsing the bigotrd problem and is a distraction from the main RFC AND SFA issues! maybe thats why its been written,

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If this guy passes the Fit & Proper then we are goin doon the lavie!

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The bigotry in Scotland between the Old Firm has no Scottish roots, its roots lie across the water. FACT.

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I don't care what the Old Firm do, just keep foreign politics out of Scottish Football.

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Why should football fans in northern ireland be ousted from coming to support not just rangers or celtic, but the massive support that comes over to see liverpool and manchester utd .... not all are bigots and want to preach political nonsence at football matches ... if this guy is and has rangers in his heart and fells it is of interest to him to put money into his club to help then so be it .... some people are so small minded ....

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If you see no danger in some Ulster Unionist being involved in Rangers then you are Irish.

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What allegiance does an Ulsterman have with a Scottish football team ?

What allegiance does an Irishman have with a Scottish football team ?

Seemingly its got nohing to do with politics and religion.

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I doubt this elderly gentlemans motives are political. From a business and sporting perspective i dont see a problem with it.

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As long as rangers fans nip over the water and play the drums and flute,and as long as ulster men come over here and do the same,the wrong kind of connection will be made,surley this kind of guy is the last person a great club like rangers wants involvment with, as they move forward.And i'm sure any investors looking to buy the club just now may have an opinion.

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Ulster has part of it in what we would think of as the South , well Donegal is Ulster and that is not in British Northern Ireland, .Just thought I would tell you.

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If so many of you Scottish Rangers fans don't want us Northern Ireland Rangers fans over because you think we are bigots or because you think our money is tainted, hard luck, most of us are Scots-Irish and we are loyal and decent people just like the majority of the honest Jocks

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John Taylor is an honest upright gentleman, sorry very wealthy gentleman who is willing to put his money where his mouth is, what I've heard here is just a disgrace from certain quarters, Mr Taylor is a solid guy.

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We dont need more sectarian poison in the soup!

Hope he is not successful!

Forward only, Not backwards!

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We were told Craig Whyte was a solid guy, safe hands and was taking our team forward!

Dont believe what your told!

This guy is not for tomorrows Rangers but might have been for yesterdays!

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As a Rangers man born and bred in Scotland, I am disgusted with most of above posts. I have watched Rangers play Linfield in Northern Ireland twice and the people could not have been more friendly. We have thousands of fans in Northern Ireland, they are not all bigots, of course we don't have bigots in Scotland DO WE.
We are in a precarious position and we are all Rangers fans at the end of the day and we SHOULD all stick together to get this Great club back to where it belongs.

GET A GRIP

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So wot alot of yous are saying is u dont want a unionist part of the club hmmmmm? since wen does a mans heritage , religion n background prevent them being nvolved with rangers , thought those days were left behind wen mo johnston signed . the fact this post has most replys says loads for scottish society .. both sides

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I think alot of the posts are timothy in disguise , that angry at a unionist could be in association wi rangers oh the thought haha

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What has Unionism got to do with a Scottish football team ?

What is wrong with you people, are you trapped in some time warp ?

If the link between Ulstermen and RFC is Unionism then I rest my case.

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To the poster who described himself as Scots-Irish, how many generations are you having to go back for your Scots ancestry ?

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We want sectarian bigotry removed from the old firm and Scotland and the introduction of this man would not be a positive step.

Let him invest in a NI football team.

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13 Mar 2012 08:02:11
BBC sport Scotland reporting SFA could find P Murray clearly in breach of regulation regarding fit and proper person due to having been director rangers within 5 years of insolvency event. Full regulation quoted.
Also quotes current tax liability at £15m.
Also another newspaper today reporting Jerome pension group have very strong claim on £2.95m in solicitors bank account.

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Unauthorised £3m release from the pension fund to Rangers just before the Administrators. CW owns 7% of parent company of pension fund.

Source: Sun

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Correct Whytes client account with his solicitors had monies from several sources for several business reasons not just ticketus.
I think it will all depend on the solicitors accounting records of this account to establish ownership of remaining balance. Jerome's looks like a very solid claim.

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This regulation applies to all directors within 5 years prior to date of admin so captures d Murray, c Whyte, Gordon smith, Ali russel, Dave king, Ellis, p Murray, Bain, Walter smith, all office bearers and managers. In fact it applies to all euro clubs they are banned, Walter could not hold a position in England for instance as Walter was raised to the board at Ibrox. He
Mentions so in today's daily record.

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Yes BBC sport Scotland online. It means all of them in last 5 years potentially banned throughout Association football. Including managers and back room management not just directors.

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Think its very doubtful that rangers will see a penny of that money

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Jerome - - join the queue
its getting longer every day !!

bill72

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All National Associations have this clause it's a standard EUFA article copy paste into their associations regulations.
Doubtful Rangers get this money. If it is found to be ticketus deal money it'll go to ticketus. I think D&P need it for March bills.

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Only if your in insolvency ?? We are in administration are we not, two different things. Murray is only a front anyway he could take a back seat and work without being on the board. It not a massive issue the DR blowing everything out of proportion as normal.

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Rangers aren't in an insolvency process though. If Rangers lose the tax case we will then see an insolvency process. As of now, Paul Murray is a fit and proper person to purchase this club.

Time will tell........

TTG

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Administration = insolvency event.
Above posters confused with liquidation.
It applies NOW.

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So all the Blue knights would be banned (NOPE) Murray knows this and I beleive that he is only a front ot the Knights, Day by day we are hearing about more and more blue knights. This couls be our best oppsition. And the SFA can rule to allow him to be Chairmen, and the same goes for all x board, Managment and staff. But TBH is SFA are bashing Rangers right know so i dont see them allowing them to run Rangers. SFA= Death to Scottish Football.

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Was J Boyle not in charge of Motherwell when they went into administration, 19 players got sacked, he was then chairman after administration!

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Regarding Motherwell, it was bill Dickie, and yes apparently SFA can interpret the regulation. But literally, it reads very clear.....5 years from going into Admin directors/ office holders are unfit and not proper to hold such offices in football!

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Bill Dickie was back in 2002, different people at SFA and general public didn't know the regulation/ kept quiet. SFA now need to be above board and honest. Or UEFA get involved in what is a UEFA article.

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SFA = the honest future of Scottish football.

They do seem to have had a very dubious past though.

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"SFA are bashing Rangers right know so i dont see them allowing them to run Rangers". What do you expect them to do? The same as they've done for the past 15 years and just turn a blind eye? That worked out well.

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Wait til EUFA get involved over the RFC SFA connections and the double contracts! You aint seen nothin yet!

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13 Mar 2012 07:32:43
Heard last night that SPL are getting into a bit of a panic, Because League Cup is seen as a frozen asset of Rangers Football Club, and as such can not be released until we are out of Administration, even although it belongs to SPL it cant be released, Anyone know if that is the case?

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If SPL can provide documentation that they have retention of title on the trophy then the administrators need to release immediately.

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Are Rangers Assets frozen?? If they are, then how can anything be sold of to raise cash?? Also, the Trophies don't belong to the club, so therefore don't count as assets!! Don't believe it for a second.

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Best news Ive heard in weeks!! At least no matter what happens then we shall retain the SPL title!

CC

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Bailment agreements exist between companies agreeing ownership of equipment (tooling, drawings etc) to provide assurance should a supplier got into difficulties. The League and SFA should have a similar agreement to cover their property but then again they might not.

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The league cup belongs to SFL not the SPL.

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It would be funny if Septic won it and had no trophy to lift though!

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Rubbish,and desperate rubbish at that. any trophy retrains it's neutral status at the start of the next season.You win it for the season,next season it's up for grabs.

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Nonsense. Get a brain.

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Honestly - you are a complete embarrasment to Rangers supporters if you think it is good that us being in Administration would stop a trophy being presented - seriously

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You aint winning nothing next season only cup you manky mob with get is a egg cup at easter

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There might be some truth to this. I'm pretty sure that a few years back Kilmarnock won the Ayrshire Cup and then refused to put it back up for grabs the following season. The reason being their debts and the fact that the Ayrshire Cup is one of the oldest professional football trophies in the world. Therefore it had value and was seen as an asset of Kilmarnock FC. At least that is my understanding of the situation. Maybe the ed can verify this story... or maybe it was just local Ayrshire newspaper talk!

I know that the Ayrshire Cup and Scottish League Cup are two different things but, there has possibly been a precedent set here. {Ed001's Note - as far as I can find out, the Ayrshire FA was being disbanded and it was agreed that the final winners could keep it. Not as interesting as your story though, so that is probably why it didn't become as widely known.}

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'You ain't winning nothing' - this means they'll be winning something.

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Talk about grasping at straws!!

Beginning to see why so many were duped by cw.

Look, there's a flying pig!

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Only chance of u lot gettin hands on a cup this yearHH

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13 Mar 2012 00:51:45
Graeme Souness heads secret consortium to buy rangers, this was mentioned but dismissed a few week back

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I heard it was John Greig heading the secret consortium.

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Souness is a hibbie

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So thats why he would have got himself sent off in his first game in scotland then. (against Hibs)

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I'd take back souness.... and no, he is not a hibs fan ya muppet. souness is rangers to the core! imagine the first OF game with souness and lennon..... awwww it would make great telly. I just hope who ever comes to rangers rescue, has a bit of money to improve the squad. WATP!

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Heard he was in with Clinton Smith(Sale Sharks) last week.

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Would absolutely LOVE this to be true!!

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What is it with souness and you lot? Have you forgot the remarks he made when he ditched you last time? Secret consortium my ass.

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Not much of a secret now.

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Wouldnt be surprised about souness whats in to destroy the evidence

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12 Mar 2012 23:50:52
So Gordon McQueen says rangers have made scottish football a laughing stock..Is he not a rangers man

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He is...why...dont you agree with him?

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Na, Scottish football was a disgrace long beofre this situation. We is just looking for someone to blame. Until something is done to adress our game, we will continue to be blamed by idiots how only look at recent events and not the underlying causes.

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This spl and sfl sfa should be one organisation the football has not been great lack of competition ie rangers win league celtic win league gets a bit boring we need more teams who can actually win the league this is where we are going wrong we need home grown talent a bigger league set up distribution of cash fairly to help smaller clubs we all need to play our part in making the game better freindler but with passion im sick to death of all this religion and politics in scottish football and puts off a lot of familys off going to the football attatudes must change as we are the laughing stock down here where i work id we dont change it will be the death of scottish football and im not joking

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Only 2 words to say to Gordon Mcqueen-
BIG HELGA !!

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Gordon's right you need to be outside Scotland to understand the daily laughing stock Rangers is. This thing is global and it brings shame to Scotland. Why do the authorities let it drag on and on?

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His beloved Leeds Utd went through worse.

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The english leagues are partly to blame , the money there throughing at football is obscene aswell as them taking all the good players down south , wot do u expect to happen , scottish society and the money culture is to blame for scottish football . not rangers or celtic the sooner uefa bring in new rules that are employed in germany where a club can only spend a percentage of its turnover will tge playing feild be evened then maybe take it from there

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He was a laughing stock every time he took the field....

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The English have been laughing at Scottish football for years now, so there's nothing new here is there.

The English can't laugh at anyone! They think there league is better than it actually is. Plus......aren't Portsmouth and Port Vale in administration?

Let the English laugh, we will laugh back:D

TTG {Ed001's Note - Oxford next and there will be others following unless something is done fast.}

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The number of Scottish managers players in England is testament to doing something right in Scotland hardly any English players in englands top leagues ,masses of debt in English football don't think they can point the finger the bubble will burst the're soon

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