30 May 2020 10:22:44
If you were to look at any Leeds UTD stories/ rumours from the last few days, Goldson to them has been their biggest and most talked about, some 'insiders' calling it all but a done deal. Let's assume this happened, are we happy with the already 3 good centre backs we have and promote one from our youth or would it be be a massive loss? Thoughts.
30 May 2020 11:02:29
depends on fee
he cost circa 3.5m so if leeds are prepared to offer say 5-6m yes i’d consider it
he’s not irreplaceable, no-one in that defence is
defence is our main issue i think not midfield or attack we work too hard to get in front in games just to throw it away with basic errors almost every wk
folk say we don’t score enough to win games we do we don’t keep nearly enough clean sheets
proper defending is still a lost art.
30 May 2020 11:35:44
I think you always miss a player if he’s been a regular past couple seasons then leaves. Goldson has had some criticism some of which I would agree but how much money would it cost for a better cb?
30 May 2020 11:37:34
Goldson is a unfair whipping boy in my opinion. The way we play with full backs going forwards often leaves our cb’s exposed. Goldson has played nearly every game since arriving and the improvement of our team speaks for itself. I think he would be a big loss but not irreplaceable. He generally plays very well but has had cost us very silly points and that makes it hard to defend him at times. The Hamilton one was school boy stuff.
30 May 2020 11:37:39
Like I said the other day its the midfield that's the problem. In the SPL and against all but Celtic we are very light at the back when under attack with 4 v 4s and sometimes 4 v 5s, our mid gets caught out all the time to far up the pitch and facing the wrong direction. Pleases have a look at the silly goals we loose and pause the game, look at the shape and tell me i'm wrong. Braga away we defended as an 8 man unit and they found it difficult to get through us and we hit on the break, we used diddy team SPL tactics against a better side. that's how we loose goals, can't rely on 4 defenders on there own to keep clean sheets. Defending starts from Alfredo.
30 May 2020 11:52:53
CofI and TJBB, totally agree re Goldson, when you play a system 2 full backs bombing on, then, you need covering midfielders who drop back to cover, e. g. Liverpool, we don't have enough workers in our midfield willing to do this at this time, this is where possibly Docherty was underrated as he always put in a shift.
30 May 2020 12:25:50
A replacement for goldson? Cooper, from Millwall available on a free. Good, solid, reasonably quick CH.
30 May 2020 12:52:40
Why is he free mrgrumpy?
30 May 2020 13:00:03
Personally I’d keep goldson as irvger says he plays with one ch partner with 2 full backs bombing on sometimes no cm holding for cover.
30 May 2020 13:34:25
Connor Goldson is easily our best centre half and is the whipping boy at times, with some of our supporters! Before goldson got the injury after we beat celtic 1-0 at ibrox in december 2018,he was absolutely immense for us. In that celtic game, when jack scored the winner, goldson was immense in that game against them. Big goldson is a good centre half, i don't and neve had any doubt about that!
30 May 2020 14:13:45
He makes mistakes - all players do and unfortunately he is the new Windass and became the whipping boy. For that reason and for his future sanity he's better leaving - some of our fans really are a fickle bunch. Any mistake the defence made was more apparent in the 2nd half of the season because our attacking players were even worse and couldn't score so if the defence made a mistake then ultimately we dropped points/ lost. Gerard plays him every game for a reason, EPL team and top championship side want him but wee Tam who won the league on PlayStation says he's rubbish and has to go. Who'd take his place? I've read forums where people are suggesting McCrorie - really? Katic still too unreliable (remember St Johnstone at fault for both goals) . Edmunson also made a few mistakes which have cost goals. Goldson is our best defender in my opinion and maybe he worries when Tav disappears up the park and tries to do too much. Next season is huge and we can't start the season with a new defensive partnership.
30 May 2020 14:25:03
Big cooper isn't free mrgrumpy. He signed a new deal with them last season mate.
30 May 2020 14:25:30
Am pretty sure he's out of contract this summer jyf.
30 May 2020 14:28:31
Jyf, because he is at the end off his contract.
30 May 2020 14:41:30
SGL this has been debated on here re Cooper recently, I also thought he had signed a new deal.
Millwall fc site, transfer market and Wikipedia all say contract up in June.
Might just need to buy him if manager thinks he improves team. I for one think he is an upgrade on three out off four, I’m helander fan.
30 May 2020 14:47:40
I would happily take 5-6m for goldson and put it towards a warrior cb someone who knows how to defend first and foremost someone that will command his own penalty area and with enough experience to bring on our young cb’s look at Davie Weir he made Danny Wilson look like a world beater by walking him through games talking to him at all times, that’s what we need now! I’m not very clued up in the market when it comes to defenders but there’s got to be someone out there that fits the bill cause we don’t have a leader at the back at all they all play their own game and it’s clearly not good enough.
30 May 2020 16:36:23
I agree with John. Think cooper is an improvement on what we have.
30 May 2020 16:44:33
To build a strong team we should only sell a player under a few conditions. Mainly if we already have someone better at the club or if we are offered silly money.
Personally I don’t rate Goodson but I’m honest enough to admits he is still our best and most consistent CB atm. If we have someone better at the club then fine sell him on.
In regard to to price if 5-6 million. No chance! We signed him for 3.5 when no one else would touch him because of his heart defect. He has performed well and was twice the defender that Worrall did who is apparently worth 15 million.
Personally I think we should be looking at a minimum of £8M.
30 May 2020 22:32:21
Wouldn't go as far to say massive loss, especially if we make a profit on him. Personally would like to see a replacement come in that is the stand out, defacto number one CH and have the others fight out to be the partner.