30 Dec 2024 21:55:20
The perfect example of how changing a manager doesn’t always fix your problems: Man Utd.
How many have they went through for how many year?
If anyone never seen that first half tonight it was an absolute embarrassment from Utd.
I’d urge everyone to calm the fu** down and give PC time to get the players who aren’t good enough out and get new players in.
2 windows before he can be judged imo and even come that time, he’s still having to overcome the financial gulf and years of headstart.
The job is absolutely massive.
Give the guy a break man:
30 Dec 2024 22:02:56
Much of a break do you want to give him Stevie. Sorry mate but I’d say 90% of our fan base wants him gone.
He doesn’t get it.
30 Dec 2024 22:10:25
Stevie mate, I was of the same mind set. But come now.
The manager is bringing it on himself. Silly descions like playing Dowell a left footed CM as RW for a start.
His inability to hold his hands up and say look yeah I got that wrong. I will work twice as hard to fix it.
His inability to look at opposition in our league and find a winning formula if plan A doesn't work.
His inability to lay a glove on Celtic.
And to be honest, he has nothing about him. No angry man, no death stare. No stern upper lip or defience infront of the media. He's not a Rangers manager mate. I wish it was different.
I've given allowances for the s**t show he's had to go through as manager but come on now.
How can he not see what we all see? Why doesn't he try something different. He's going through the motions, and inevitably he will be sacked.
30 Dec 2024 22:12:44
I urge you to wind your neck in and let people have an opinion of their own. The forum is great for people coming and speaking about their joy, frustrations and what they’d do if they were in charge. If you don’t like what somebody has said just skip over it, no need for you to start dictating what people can and can’t do on here.
30 Dec 2024 22:20:11
No thank you.
30 Dec 2024 22:35:21
But on the flip side of that debate is Liverpool stevie, changed managers now flying mate. Of course it doesn't always work, but it can, can we afford to wait and see? with that lot just about to take over our trophy haul? I honestly don't know the answer anymore tbh.
30 Dec 2024 22:36:22
Dado I’d urge u to take a bit of your own advice there pal ?
The forum is for exactly what I just done, what others above u done and what u, sorry to hear the bad news, are doing with me right now son. ??♂️?
If ye don’t like what I wrote, don’t comment mate. But u did… so I’ll keep them coming just for u bro ?.
30 Dec 2024 22:44:17
Back to sensible folk like As and arcade, As I get what your saying mate, I wanted rid dice benfica at ibrox and was very vocal about it. But I seem a change for that wee period leading up to Xmas n thought I could see something. Also with the players he’s got there’s not much else anyone else could do.
That’s ma point by referencing Man Utd is by changing manager nothing changes, say we bring in a French coach, for example, he’s going to want to rip it all up and set it up in his way from coaches to players and all the way through the youth, and if that doesn’t work do we do it again. ?
If he goes I’ll be sound about it slightly happy tbh, but as long as he’s here we need to try understand that with what he’s got to work with, this is what we’re going to get.
Last wee point maybe he thought by playing dowel it would show the board what they need to do.
Yous aren’t wrong in what your saying I just worry we’re going round in circles and it needs to stop settle as a club get the whole place reorg and see where we are towards end of the season and decide what we want to do.
30 Dec 2024 22:46:07
Keeping a manager that’s failing and got the worst record of a rangers manager for many of years isn’t the answer either.
30 Dec 2024 22:51:40
Boy blue.
Liverpool were a squad of European champions and world champions n premier league winners mate.
Slot have tweaked an already winning formula and made them
Look like a bran new team. We don’t have any of that in our players atm.
Totally see what u mean about just don’t know. I think that’s the worry here isn’t it, do we do it all again and the. Realise right hold on the managers weren’t the problem. ?
We need to settle down at some point and why not do it now when the season is already lost, give him til summer and see if we get the progress? If not can get rid before the summer and start again.
Not now for me but I know I’m in the few.
30 Dec 2024 23:04:16
Stevie we are not Man Utd and don’t have the same money, play in the same league etc so very difficult to compare.
You’re right it’s your opinion.
I have one point to ask you, when you say Clement must be given time to get rid of players that are not good enough does that include players that he and Koppen have brought in that are not good enough, a lot of fans don’t have confidence in some of the recruitment now never mind before he took over.
He also hasn’t gave fans confidence in his ability to bring through youth players, bring the best out of players and be astute tactically, all things that he told us that he would bring to the club.
It works both ways opinions and in my opinion there is plenty of reasons outwith the financial restraints why it isn’t working.
30 dec 2024 23:13:01
i see ni “ dictating “ nor anything ither than an input and an opinion
you should take your own advice, i think youve lost the plot mate,
30 dec 2024 23:17:23
you may well have a point there stevie, walter was known to play youngsters or players out of position to prove a point, often getting his way soon afterwards, its an old ploy but has a sharp point to it, u carry on son, i know your a big bluenose abd that's good enough for me, i often wonder if the same people would say the same things face to face, i have my doubts.
30 Dec 2024 23:30:59
Rosevale cheers for reply mate, if it comes down to the recruiting this season (propper, bajrami) then that’s koppen not PC. But of course that has to be brought into question, without doubt.
I’m m not Dayi v give hi. A new contract, I wanted rid of him before a very high % most on here mate. As I said benfica at home I wanted rid.
Just have changed my opinion that it needs to stop and settle down.
If it keeps getting worse then fine, I’d just like too ok see how things go in January until almost the end of season and if it’s not worked he can go then, if it has worked and we all see the improvement and our opinions are different then he would deserve the summer window and into next season, if not the new guy comes in and tears it all up I suppose.
30 Dec 2024 23:55:19
All football clubs change the manager if they don’t get the results, it’s how it’s always been . Bad managers can make excuses but the fact is they are paid to deliver results it’s that simple.
Phillipe Clement has been a poor manager for us his record domestically is abysmal, he cannot win away from Ibrox or beat our biggest rivals so for me his times up, a better manager will get more out of this squad.
31 Dec 2024 00:27:28
Fair enough Stevie, I did say in an earlier post that Clement mentioned a few months back that him and Koppen speak a lot so I would very much doubt that a manager of Clements experience does not have input in signings. just cannot see a situation in which
Clement tells Koppen the positions we are looking to fill then Koppen does the rest without running any of the available players by the manager. These players were probably not top targets that I can believe.
31 Dec 2024 00:52:56
Sima I can’t and won’t argue with that mate. The record is there for all to see.
I just feel that at some point we need to stop and admit it’s down to finances, years of bad management upstairs. Bad scouting, no scouting. Constantly changing managers and too to bottom re shuffles since gerrard, gio, beale, now PC. Everyone of them supposedly rebuild the club til to bottom so how come the next one keeps having to do it?
We need stability, Get all the upstairs and background positions filled for the long term, get a proper assessment of things then and make an informed decision for next season.
Tom cheers mate. I expected but if ridicule for suggesting that with dowel but I totally stand by it, as h say wouldn’t be 1st gaffer tkk ok do it, just it’s backfired majorly on him.
31 Dec 2024 01:14:09
Don’t buy this can’t afford to sack him mince.
31 Dec 2024 01:47:21
Rosevale I think what the biggest problem for both koppen and PC is the same one faced by Ross Wilson. The players they want either 1st choices - we can’t find the money needed, or 2nd choice - won’t come to Scotland 3rd choices if we’re lucky and I’ll be honest I don’t even think we’re getting them.
What we’re then doing is rushing around trying to get bodies in that the manager doesn’t want and koppen is gambling on.
Just my take on the bajrami one, propper seemed to be a real target they had in mind though.
31 Dec 2024 07:41:42
Stevie G, we can't go on assumptions because when other failing club's change their manager's that this would be the case for us also mate ? Patrick Stewart has to do what he thinks is best for rangers and for the long term and not needing to be looking that it didn't work for another club, as every club and situations differ ?We make decisions on what's best for glasgow rangers my friend ?.
31 Dec 2024 10:41:02
You’re correct coops, but we are also evidence that this constant changing doesn’t seem to work.
We need to settle down and get tk the end of the season and the. Make the decision. Things may well upturn
The folk above clement need to be going and saying settle down with this sports science rubbish and pick a team that wins the game.
31 Dec 2024 12:56:45
we make decisions on what we can afford. how much have we wasted in the last 3 years on managers getting sacked. we can't afford or attract the talent we once used to. there is no stand out star in our team that you could rely on week in week out to lift the team when not playing well.
our back up players are no where good enough. when is the last time you looked at the bench and said wow that's strong. unfortunately when one of our first 11 are injured we are much weaker immediately. if 2 are injured the weakness is multiplied appropriately.
no manager can change that in 6 months.