05 Nov 2024 20:58:40
We are quite simply never ever going to catch them and it's our own fault. We deserve everything we are going through.
18m for morelos? No thanks, let him go free.
10m for kent? No thanks, let him go free.
8m for kamara? No thanks, 4.5m 12 months later.
6m for someone who just scored in a European final.
Selling patterson over tavernier.
Accepting the first offer for bassey.
Countless of you praised the man that caused this, I'll never forget it.
Ross wilson has killed us.
05 Nov 2024 21:09:12
We sold nathan patterson over james tavernier at the time because tav was flying 79sjt ?At that time there's no way patterson should have been the no.1 right back over tav?.
05 Nov 2024 21:11:38
Not all of what you say can be laid at Wilsons door. Bassey moved for big money and flopped in Amsterdam.
We got a great fee for Paterson who wasnt first choice (but should have been) . Moreles and Kent offers simply weren't accepted because Gerard was told there wouldn't be much to spend after 55 so insisted that we at least keep two of our best players at that time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing eh? and I'll be honest I don't know many of us who praised Wilson.
05 Nov 2024 21:13:04
I just never seen this mythical £18m for Morelos, I didn’t buy the news paper reports at the time, just didn’t make sense.
How much do you think we could have got for Bassey? I think we got a good deal. What about Patterson, looks like we robbed Everton, he’s never fit?
05 Nov 2024 22:01:02
Tavernier should've been sold when he was at his highest after europa final.
05 Nov 2024 22:28:48
Lille chairman confirmed the Morelos bid Dado. Money was good for Patterson and Bassey too but so many others wasted chance to sell. If Gerrard had agreed to sell then he would have been able to build. That's where problems started but he complained he wasn't backed despite signing 40 odd players.
05 Nov 2024 22:45:34
Moaning we sold people for cheap then moan we sold a kid for a record breaking fee ??.
05 Nov 2024 22:53:45
Correct Kaiser the Lille chairman confirmed it in an interview why the bid was not accepted I’ve no idea you’d need to ask the board if you could find them PC is left to answer any awkward questions we are a shambles, they are miles ahead of us far better squad and I can’t see how we catch them they have a very healthy bank balance while we are having to cut our wage bill just to stop a return to 2012, the board have a lot to answer for but let’s all blame PC it’s far easier.
05 Nov 2024 22:59:33
One thing is true though and maybe we’re all missing the point in between arguing over things that can’t be changed
We are way behind our rivals let’s see if the club has an answer to too they tine it around
How many league titles is it going to end up for them before we win our next don’t care about the the players we did and didn’t sell too late
Let’s see what’s going to happen with the club now and the players we have now too think that is far more important.
06 Nov 2024 05:27:17
The lille bid for morelos was £16.5million and ross wilson got greedy and then informed lille he wanted £18.5million plus add ons ?Lille then walked away from the deal and signed canadian striker jonathan david and the rest is history ? Mistake absolutely ?.
06 Nov 2024 05:59:55
Will I guess he’d be the first ever chairman to lie about bidding for a player to appease disgruntled fans.
Unless of course we do this every year around season ticket renewal time?
06 Nov 2024 06:15:38
Tend to agree Dado, if we had received a solid bid of that value I think we would have taken it. Its already been well documented that the relationship between Gerrard and Morelos was strained. I think Gerrard would have bit your hand off for that kind of money to reinvest.
06 Nov 2024 07:27:11
Something doesn’t feel right about it Karlo, I guess we’ll never know but I’m struggling to believe we had that sort of money guaranteed sitting on the table and we walked away.
06 Nov 2024 08:26:46
An awful lot of questions remain unanswered by our Club Dado, we had 3 reasonably successful years with European Income, and we used it on infrastructure and projects like Edmiston House, arguments for and against that are feasible, but, we are first and foremost a Football Club, with a below standard team at this time, and that is where we in my opinion should have been focussing our attention with the Funds available.
06 Nov 2024 08:38:47
Cant moan about not accepting offers for players just to then moan that we accepted the offer for Bassey HAHAHA
Some fans have lost the plot.
Clement is getting the blame for the terrible performances on the pitch because there is no style and he picks the same players each week.
The board do not effect the play on the pitch.
06 Nov 2024 08:43:01
Morelos is the one that we badly missed out on. Hindsight would be a wonderful thing.
06 Nov 2024 09:11:50
Ally: the board do not effect the play on the pitch? Of course they do they run the club they deal with the financial side of the club and financially we are a mess, I’m not defending the manager he has made mistakes but trimming the wage bill and bringing in inferior players hasn’t helped, having to start the season at Hampden hasn’t helped having so many vacant posts in the boardroom hasn’t helped who is running the club? they are a country mile ahead of us in terms of finance far better team far better pool and I have no idea how we catch them or if we can unless we get major investment and with FFP rules it’s harder to implement, so again I’ll say PC has been sold a pup here and he is the one in front of the cameras to answer for all the mistakes where is our board?
06 Nov 2024 09:28:21
Twacoos PC blew the league last season and 40 million of CL money. He got us into a position and started cracking under the pressure so he is partly to blame.
06 Nov 2024 09:37:49
We obsess over money. Fact is a lot of their player's cost the same or less than ours. Yes a couple of theirs cost more but most didn't. Taylor, Johnston, Scales, Kyogo, Maeda, Kuhn all signed for less than Dessers and Danilo. Brenda just gets more out of his players unfortunately.
06 Nov 2024 09:43:01
As I said I’m not defending him I merely saying the problems don’t squarely at his door the club is a shambles and that starts at the very top but some fans think change the manager again and that will fix it.
06 Nov 2024 10:20:43
My frustration with him Twacoos is specific to the preparation and tactics used, things he does control.
Players are picked week in and week out even when they don’t perform. The small caveat to this is he appears to have lost patience with Proper and Dio, perhaps the substitution of Dessers and Tav indications that he is willing to change the starting 11 if not the formation,
I’d also say his man management skills appear to leave a lot to be desired, I can’t help but feel we’ll start to lose guys like Sterling if the rumours of unrest are indeed true.
06 Nov 2024 10:25:17
They will be thankful for that lille sws. David is 5x the player of morelos.
06 Nov 2024 10:27:25
Absolutely spot on Ally, most on here go on about their finances but they rarely pay huge fees for players, this summer is an exception of course. They just have a manager with a clear style of play and bring in mainly cheap bargains and flip them for profit ie O'Riley.
What we need is a manager with a clear style of play and our scouting team identifying players who suit this instead of trying to fit square pegs in circular holes.
Our scouting team needs a massive overhaul as I know we still have a lot of the guys there who have failed us miserably for many years.
06 Nov 2024 11:39:27
One thing Brenda does well us talk players up. Beautiful human beings, wonderful wonderful person. We're in the generation of players needing to be cuddled as opposed to being rollocked. PC comes across as being more of a hard a$$ than empathetic. Half the battle us having players who want to play for the manager and also apply maximum effort always. Maybe his man managenent isn't helping. I dunno.
06 Nov 2024 12:00:39
I’m no expert on this but they bring in two or three players per transfer window but the spine of their team remains intact we have torn our team apart getting rid of experience we have no leaders maybe I’m old school brought up with great leaders in Grieg, Butcher, Goughs, Ferguson and many more but I look at us and don’t see that we need three or four leaders on the park.