13 Sep 2024 14:37:44
Thought I'd post this as it's been irking me for a while.
It's not 1 title in 13 years as we only came back 2016/ 17 so that narrative does my nut in. and peddled by a lot of celtic minded media . should we have kicked on after 55, aye absolutely. Did we? Naw we didn't.
Did the board make repeated mistakes? Aye they did. have they tried to address they mistakes? Well they're doing it now with slashing the age and wage bill bringing in sellable assets and trying to upgrade the stadium/ facilities.
Am I the biggest fan of this board? Naw even a wee bit, but it breaks ma heart to see our own eating ourselves from the inside oot. we must hold tight and accept facts, we've been very very badly managed and it's been painful and will be painful at times in the future but we must see things for what it is, I mean just this week we had an ex player come out and say "another Scottish club put a phone call in and said don't deal with Rangers they have no money" a prominent ramgers podcaster confirmed that it was in fact Celtic. who will stoop to any low to get one over on us.
I for one believe that they're behind a lot of the negative media attention and attacks on our club which sadly a right few of our fans are falling for.
In time of stress, their unstinted support, unbroken devotion to our club and calmness in adversity eased the task of making Rangers FC the premier club in this country.
Mr Bill Struth.
13 Sep 2024 15:08:46
Peter can u advise me how many titles in the top league we have won in last 13 years,
Because that sadly is a matter of fact.
13 Sep 2024 15:22:42
Sadly that stat is 100% accurate whether you like it or not.
13 Sep 2024 15:24:50
I can john yes. One in the EIGHT years, we've been back in the top league mate. We couldn't win the Premier league when we played in the lower divisions. 5 years prior to winning our promotion we won 4 out of 5 straight promotions all lower divisions mate. We could not ein the top league ad we could not play in the top league hence why jt rips my knitting the one in 13 years talk. 1 in 8 good enough? Nope. But it is not one in thirteen years.
13 Sep 2024 15:25:40
We have only won one title in 13 years though.
13 Sep 2024 15:30:39
It’s a fact that it’s one league win in 13 years.
13 Sep 2024 15:33:58
We've only been back in the top league 8 years Ray?
13 Sep 2024 15:35:02
I think Peter's point is also true though. you can't win the top title if you aren't in it. so we have won 1 of the 8 we have competed in. also being the pedant I am we have actually won 5 of the 13 'titles' we have competed in over that time. so John he just said titles rather than in the top league, easy to spin either way. Most disappointing was probably year Hearts won championship and we stayed down.
13 Sep 2024 16:08:11
Good points Peter and Angus
Actually true can’t win it when not competing in it
I can buy into that ok so 1 in 8 need better hopefully we can turn our fortunes around quickly
and we start recruiting better going forward.
13 Sep 2024 16:10:33
Storm it's also a fact that for 5 out of those 13 years we weren't even in the top league.
13 Sep 2024 16:26:20
it is 5 league wins in 13. Celtic didn't win any of the division 1,2,3 and Championship titles when we were there either ?.
13 Sep 2024 16:29:02
I get where you're coming from Peter, but you're clutching at straws here. If that's the case, I take it you're happy to include our titles from the lower divisions and our Scottish challenge cup in our trophies won numbers?
Spin it whatever way you want, but even if we go with your claim, 1 title in 8 years in a 2 horse league is still dire! Good try, though. ???.
13 Sep 2024 17:19:12
Some people are just missing their logic boards ?.
13 Sep 2024 18:23:55
Correct SS it’s getting embarrassing now all this bs.
It’s also a fact it was our fault we weren’t in the league but the majority of fans blame other clubs.
13 Sep 2024 18:28:06
Hahaha sunshine I'm not missing any logic nor trying to spin anything we physically were not able to compete for 5 years? Why would I include those years. I'll also say it again it's not good enough 1 title in 8 years but that's the fact we have only won one Premier league title in the 8 times we compteted for it since we came back.
13 Sep 2024 18:56:40
Peter we will need to agree to disagree mate we won one in 13
How May league cups we win one in thirteen
How many Scottish cups we win one in thirteen.
13 Sep 2024 20:03:52
Yeah John that's fine. However, I stand by what I said. It's a debate we are having at the boxing club I'm attached to, and some of the boys have given the same opinion as yourself. others have agreed with me, one even asked how many challenge cups we've won since 2016/ 17. which made me chuckle. We can only win competitions we are legally allowed to enter.
And Storm no offence my friend but is there any need for the "embarrassing " jibe? Did you mean to come across as rude mate? I'm sure you didn't.
13 Sep 2024 22:02:17
??? I'll need to try that approach Peter when dealing with Storm. Don't bite back, but approach his digs in a polite, gentlemanly fashion. I like it mate!
14 Sep 2024 07:54:25
Well reading this thread cheered me up this morning. A good debate with good and funny answers it’s what the forum should always be ??.
14 Sep 2024 09:09:46
Surprised at all the kick back against Peter’s stats
It’s almost as if you wanted to make us sound worse and smeltic more successful. Ok let’s go back over the last 33 seasons and if my maths are correct we have won 17 in last 33 so just over 50% so let’s push that stat.
I’m with Peter on 1 in 8 for the very logic he has put forward.