Rangers Banter Archive May 09 2020

09 May 2020 21:51:55
I have changed my view on the dossier after reading more into it rather than relying on what i’am to believe it really says. I firmly think a full investigation is needed. Listen if I was accused of anything in my business and I knew I had done nothing at all wrong I would welcome an investigation to prove it.

If I knew I had done something wrong I would be doing my best to hide it. The worst thing they have done might not even be in our dossier. That’s the point of the investigation, but we have proven enough to merit one.

We just need other teams to show there hand. We need other teams who people thought were against a investigation to say ‘you know what this needs to be investigated further’ personally I don’t think we will get the votes need though which is a shame.

09 May 2020 22:23:15
Truth to Power badly needed now for the good off the game. All self respecting clubs should step forward.

10 May 2020 02:39:14
Where did you get your copy of the dossier to read fully into it and where can I get one then!

10 May 2020 08:19:42
What about Michael Stewert claiming it’s our fault that league reconstruction is a non starter. How these muppets are allowed to continually get away with this baffles me.

10 May 2020 09:42:47
That's funny because I'm led to believe it was Aberdeen, Ross County, ST Mirren, St Johnstone, Hibs and Scumdee Utd who voted against it!

10 May 2020 10:28:57
Michael Stewart is a complete idiot . basically he is saying that Rangers have kiboshed league reconstruction, he has said that if Rangers hadnt complained about the SPFL decision and asked for an enquiry then everyone would have been happy with the SPFL and would have voted for league reconstruction? So much for democracy and sporting integrity. over to you Mr Stewart!

10 May 2020 13:22:56
It is unfair that Hearts are going down but one of the pluses is that it's winding Michael Stewart so much. Glorious to think of his meltdown. He's making even less sense than he normally does.

10 May 2020 15:44:09
Michael Stewart should be sacked for false claims. how can he say it’s Rangers fault given all the self serving clubs in the Premiership voting reconstruction down. He should be concentrating on John Nelms of Dundee for causing it all with his bribed flip on vote. It’s scary that the media have dropped this and concentrate on the Rangers. Stewart is a nobody and a nodding dog for the BBC. same old same old. it’s Rangers fault. what a diddy.

10 May 2020 17:10:29
Fintytint, the spfl, (sfa) better have there house in order, because if they knock us back for inquiry we will take it further, so i'm not too concerned of them knocking us back, but I've been looking about online, it would not surprise me if the inquiry was voted for, as now that league reconstructions been kicked to the moon, the others are starting to see for themself promises made, but never honoured. Time for change.

10 May 2020 17:32:42
Why would the clubs want to pay a 6 figure sum to an Independent Investigation to be told the same result as the first one?
It’s like going to the game and watching your club get beat and then going home to watch it again on the television. It is still going to be the same result.
Your club and it’s supporters are just going round in circles.

10 May 2020 18:05:29
we are getting the blame for the collapse of league construction now. I hope Mr Park didn't stand on the grassy knoll in Dallas in 1963.

10 May 2020 18:16:20
Jetmayfair, that's the problem mate, this spfl and sfa, have run scottish football since 2012, without anybody from football qustioning there. Motives, now questions are being asked, the cats got their tongues.

10 May 2020 22:04:27
Buzz, we've offered to pay for inquiry, so no reason for it not to go ahead, mr park offered to pay for it, you should have known that, as your always telling us you know our history, also i noticed a few of your lot, yourself included on our celtic posts page. laughing and trying to slag us, where are they all now, no doubt mass eh. mate.

09 May 2020 16:52:22
Seems we are finally getting some credibility with this fiasco--"Follow Follow".

09 May 2020 17:45:08
Hunker down, keep powder dry and speak the truth.

09 May 2020 19:04:40
Hope to god, we can expose these inept, spfl f*****s for what they're worth bankie. John Bennett's interview earlier on, was very good and frank and showed this shower of s***e that we're going to do everything in our power as the biggest football institution, within the scottish game, to take these useless, very sleekit f*****s DOWN!
I hope and i make no apologies for saying this that we can expose and finish this not fit for purpose lot ie. doncaster, mclennon and mckenzie once and for all. Our club will and must continue to fight this s***e all the way, no matter how long it takes. We need proper football minded people running our game in the spfl.

09 May 2020 20:19:50
Sg i presume your not a fan of them😂😂😂.

09 May 2020 20:49:18
Here we go yet AGAIN from SGL, wether your right or wrong SGL will always miss call you. What's wrong with you SGL? Do you need to take a back seat and relax? Why worry about things when things are out of your control? Take it easy brother, try saying something positive for a wee change. That would be refreshing to read.

09 May 2020 20:53:25
You got any suggestions COOPS as to who could run our game.

09 May 2020 20:54:53
Spot on SG loyal. We have started a war to remove corrupt, inept and incompetent individuals from power. We must do whatever it takes to remove all of these individuals. Well done to the Rangers board for standing up for the club and the greater good of the Scottish game. Heres hoping more evidence comes to light in the near future to bring this corrupt group of individuals down.

09 May 2020 20:55:10
Yes Supercoop, John Bennet interview hits close to the mark.

09 May 2020 20:56:59
Trumph?

09 May 2020 22:26:24
Fauldhoose bear, guys like gordon smith, gordon strachan, walter smith,
davie hay, graeme souness, kenny dalglish, sir alex ferguson, neil mccann etc. If these guys and probably more i've not mentioned don't actually want to run our game as being on an spfl board at least they could contribute to a newly formed spfl board with i'm sure some very good ideas to better the running of our game up here. What about yourself fauldhoose bear, do you have any names to add or different names who would greatly benefit our game in scotland mate?

09 May 2020 22:27:21
I forgot to add gordon mcqueen and big joe jordan.

09 May 2020 22:32:08
Its all good names you have mentioned but it's more than football men needed. Your talking about accountants lawyers commercial people. I think we do need people who understand football and people who have played football more involved in parts of the board but we need clever people who understand how business works.

09 May 2020 22:25:27
also looks like McLennan insisting doncaster gave a loan to a company in admin that was never repaid. all while being he was being paid 400K a year.

09 May 2020 22:41:50
To SGL first class post my sentiments exactly. Get them out and expose their ineptitude.

09 May 2020 22:48:13
On Sportsound today, chairman of clubs didn’t know about the 10m liability, yet SPFL said they did. another lie and yet again no follow up by the media on this even during the programme.

In our dossier we inform of this yet no one apart from us raising it. shame on press and the other Spfl board members for not confirming it. like I said before they are a shower of charlatans and need binned.
Come on other clubs grow a pair and step up.

09 May 2020 22:51:35
I would change the full set up and make it an even footing where maybe 4 or 5 teams could win the league and teams could give more youth a chance.

Why not have 2 leagues of 10, teams plays each other home and away 18 games and top 5 from each league go into the second half of the season starting from scratch. So it's the best 10 playing each other home and away again 18 games. I'm sure that would give aberdeen hibs hearts a chance and it would make for more exciting tv. Apart from the early 80s it's always been us and them.

I think the game needs big changes. So next season league 1 would be 1st 3rd 5th 7th 9th 11th 1st championship 3rd 5th 7th. League 2 would be 2nd 4th 6th 8th 10th 12th 2nd championship 4th 6th 8th. No more silly splits. Top 10 getting extra 2 games against the old firm at home so plenty incentive for clubs to play for.

09 May 2020 23:40:06
Was sceltical bout Rangers dossier to begin with but since it's generated EGM not so much. Just hope other SPL clubs have b**** to vote accordingly.

10 May 2020 02:23:08
Every person mentioned has a link to us or them. It's the Scottish league not the old firm league. A lot of good men and woman in other clubs too.

10 May 2020 12:10:24
Lot off gutless wonders at other clubs who won’t stand up and be counted.

09 May 2020 11:03:13
The news came just a day after Rangers released their dossier of evidence against the SPFL as they push for a vote in favour of an independent investigation on Tuesday at an EGM of clubs.

Deans, whose club votes against the plans to end the lower leagues, described the last few weeks in Scottish football as an "utter shambles" and added the club, along with other frustrated by the process, will now consider its options.

"The handling of this entire situation has been farcical ranging from the decisions made by the SPFL board to those clubs who have, what could only be charitably described as, misled and deceived, " Deans added.

"The principle of 'do no harm' to Scottish football during the virus was thrown out of the window a long time ago and the decision taken today will cause harm to many clubs - Falkirk included. "
So are the spfl now going to have a go at Falkirk who have said basically what we have said only they are just realising that trust is in very short supply in Scottish football. Misled and deceived, very strong words.

09 May 2020 20:26:39
Let me just start by saying I fully back the need for an independent investigation into the SPFL either to expose wrong doing or to clear people’s names.

However can everyone on here stop being so hypocritical about wanting what is best for Scottish football. Some of the comments on here about boycotting games ( been the same chat since 2012) or going to England shows people don’t really care what happens to teams in Scotland. Just be honest a lot of people only want this investigation because you believe in some way Celtic will be implicated.

When you were spending 10’s of millions on players and running away with leagues and the SFA were delaying players registrations you didn’t care ( and I challenge anyone on here to honestly say you did) . It is only now when you feel hard done to that all this rhetoric has erupted. Ask yourself this, if it was Hibs or Aberdeen that where championing this cause and you were top of the league by 13 points do you think your chairman would be so vicarious in their comments.

One final point you can’t really criticise the SPFL chairman for doing a Q&A with himself and then praise the Rangers vice chairman for doing a Q&A on Rangers TV and be asked questions by a Rangers employee. It is one in the same is it not?

10 May 2020 13:00:34
Mojo certain press asked our chairman The q and a . It was then published on rangers tv so get your facts right.

10 May 2020 17:11:45
Mojo, you said it yourself that an independent investigation is required. Whether your reasons for saying this differs from Rangers views, or not, shouldn’t change the fact that you recognise there is something festering in SPFL hierarchy. If they’re trying to protect a deal with Sky they should’ve said but, in truth, their actions are questionable to say the least.

They wrote a letter to UEFA a couple of days after UEFA intimated that teams could be excluded if the individual associations didn’t play out their top leagues. In this letter (which was not sanctioned by SPFL Board) they basically lied on two fronts. They said they had been advised by the majority of member clubs that wished to end the season and therefore prize money could be released - the latter being the only way clubs could receive money. Now here’s the rub - why would SPFL/ SFA seek special dispensation two weeks BEFORE UEFA’s meeting during which ‘special dispensation’ principles were first aired? Other points about potential payback to SKY/ BT only applying to ‘null and void’ and the omission to advise member clubs of loans all point to them trying to protect the new SKY deal at the very least.

10 May 2020 17:20:05
Mmr, its the people are bowing to there leader that we need rid off, the way celtic fc will be implicated is because it was peter lawwell that gave them there jobs, guys that no nowt about football, and mcclellend has worked with and for dessy bhoy, so there are far too many conflicts of interest that will pop up, over they years for celtic fc not to get implicated somewhere down the line, mcclellend etc know they have not got a leg to stand on due to conflict of intersets, none of them can ever hearnabfair case due to it being sgainst the guys that enployed them, i hope we get the go shead for inquiry, because then the can of worms will be opened, let's get everything out in the open, mate.

09 May 2020 09:14:36
As well as every other lack of support for other clubs, we must recall all loan players from other Scottish teams as soon as is permissible. Particularly the likes of Docherty, Robby McCrorie etc. When play eventually returns, give others zero help.

09 May 2020 09:43:33
I don't think a club should be allowed to loan players to direct competition, system is abused I think. Having said that, while it's allowed, use it! No point in hindering our chances. I won't pretend to know enough about this fallout to say what's what, but if the board truly feel a grieved, they should act in a mature way about it. If it suits us, do it, if not let the others sort themselves out. Let's try and get back to the days where our confidence in our club started right from the top! Back in the day when Mr Murray spoke, you listened and what he said, happened!

09 May 2020 10:41:26
"Back in the day when Mr Murray spoke, you listened and what he said, happened! "

Yeah I remember Murray saying that he would only sell Rangers to someone who had the best interests of Rangers at heart.

Remind me how that went.

09 May 2020 21:56:21
To be fair that plausible slimy one, Whyte hoodwinked everybody.

09 May 2020 22:09:40
the banks took control. he didn't sell he was foreclosed.

10 May 2020 17:14:34
Eric blair, that's exactly the way it happened, mate.

09 May 2020 06:18:56
1st and foremost i'm a diehard rangers fan. Season ticket holder for the last 17 year. every away game in scotland I've been to for the last 8 year without missing 1.just trying to make sure you guys know i'm rangers through and through before i get to what i want to say

I like the rest of you guys want football to resume asap but safely as possible. even though in the form we were in before lockdown was poor. i'm sure rangers would love the opportunity to claw back that 13 point gap but was highly unlikely given the form we were in.

If this league/ season is cancelled i believe the only fair thing would be to null and void it. can't relegate hearts with 8 games to go and csnt crown celtic champions woth 8 games to go.

Now onto this dossier of evidence rangers claim to have. if i was on the other side of the fence i'd be having a cheeky snigger at this. biggest load of sh! t I've ever read. couple of eyebrow raisers but all in all a heap of p! ss. its stalling tactics for 1 of 2 things

To stop celtic from being awarded the title ( don't believe it should happen)
Or we are skint. (dont believe we are)

The vote was always going to go 1 way . and as the days go by rangers are looking set to be the laughing stock with all this. we are like a big wain who needs our mammy to tell us to shut up n stop moanin. we want to finish the league. that's fair enough because i want it finished aswell

Best thing to do null and void it. everyone wins. celtic can still go for 9 next year. because if everyone looks at the bigger picture and realises the virus 19 doesn't show mercy to any man we might be able to put our differences aside and do what's best for our country. null and void only way to go.

09 May 2020 08:45:52
I agree RE null and void but disagree RE big wains. Even a cursory check of the backgrounds of the men in charge of Scottish football will show a lop sided, shall we say, hierarchy even down to the compliance officer, remember her? Then we have the chairman of alloa athletic, for crying out loud, wading in check him out. Check who runs the media, I'll give you a clue, its run from dublin. No we're not greetin like wains we've just had enough.

09 May 2020 09:37:41
Igglepiggle what a lot of utter Lilian Gish! if you can’t see the Issues here I despair, so basically you’re saying the SPFL actions are acceptable? That on the day of the release all of a sudden we get notice that Douglas Park threatened Neil Doncaster? that’s it’s ok to put a letter out again! To coerce other members to reject dossier all that’s ok with you? I’d suggest you watch John Bennett’s interview Only sensible rhetoric I’ve saw Also read Falkirk statement see if they get ridiculed For saying basically what we’re saying . if there’s nothing to hide why out so many obstacles in the way
Let’s get the enquiry done if it’s deemed unsubstantiated then we can take it on chin.

09 May 2020 09:53:57
iggle i usually like reading your posts, but have to admit this one is the most one sided two sided i have read yet, sitting on the fence with this one i think, please give us your actual reason for your post, excluding the virus 19,we are skint etc, i for one don't want to give the mhanks the title but it will be, as for the dossier its been done but i don't think it will be the end of it for a long time to come yet, there is a lot of festering people out there with plenty of grudges still to come yet and they won't all be pointed at rangers i can assure you of that.

09 May 2020 10:16:02
I'm with you iggle.

09 May 2020 10:32:49
Iggle, Falkirk saying same as us, will they have a water pistol, will SPFL come out with a rebutal in matter of hours like they done with us. Our vice chair interview last night speaks volumes.
What about that Dundee walloper, he thought he was promised reconstruction and they shafted him, will he come out with truth now?
They are nothing but a shower of charlatans and need removed.
I hope others are now seeing the light.

09 May 2020 12:59:23
I don't want Celtic to win the league either but null and void isn't an option, why are people still shouting for it on here? The whole situation is a shambles i agree but its obvious they are getting the title as crap as that is.

09 May 2020 18:25:32
I din't believe that null and void will happen but it is an option gers1999. Why is it not?

09 May 2020 19:36:48
It’s only not an option because spfl day it’s not. They say the financial ramifications can not allow this even although the didn’t disclose the financial ramifications of the present circumstances.
They say no prize money can be gifted out fir bull and void? Why not . let’s vote to change that rule. They say clubs will sue? Well by all accounts they are going to sue under this mess .
No relegation no promotion. No champions but give smeltic a wee asterisk in the record books saying they were 13 points ahead. Dundee untd too . Either split the monies evenly or as the league standings are now .
Any team that has called it in Europe ( although the Dutch have went null and void )
Here’s a thought . even start the season next season with the points that each team have as a starting point .

Non of this will happen though as we all know who is pulling the strings . i'm afraid it’s into court again only this time we have possibly hearts, Partick, Stranrar and a few others on board .
The highland league are disgusted too, as spfl are now saying. Pyramid idea is not an option . it’s ok to relegate but not to honour the pyramid . shocking.

09 May 2020 22:10:30
I agree your conclusions but not the body of your rant. null and void is more and more looking the only option. because of rangers. let them point. we welcome the chase and have no time for anything else.