Rangers Banter Archive May 09 2012

09 May 2012 23:11:42
Just a thought here when all at rangers claim Scottish football would die without rangers Scottish football needs rangers well you all were not bothered when you wanted to get into England for a number of years were you???

Hoops will live forever gbnl!!

Yes Rangers flirted with the English idea. Yes Scottish football would die without Gers. Both facts. Whats your point? Rtid

But is it not the case that the tic have tried to get to England many times with all their approaches and clandestine meetings and various overtures to all unsundry in the leagues down south.

You are still talking about England, there is no chance, they don't want us or you, they don't want the sash and ira songs, uefa would never allow it. I hit my 50th birthday recently and I have listened to england for forty years, it will never happen.

Don't think Scottish football would die 100% without Rangers, but it would be worthless without us. Celtic would win the league every year in a boring one horse race. No player worth his salt would come up here and play no matter how much they were paid, whats the biggest game Celtic would have to offer Motherwell away in front of 8000 fans?

Sky would say thanks but no thanks to a T.V. deal, clubs would go semi-pro or bust in some cases the debt levels at some spl clubs are 5 or 6 times annual turnover, if no tv deal that would be 10-11 times turnover. Banks would call in debt the second Rangers were not in the league and pull the plug on some clubs.

Celtic are ranked 69th in Europe at the minute the next best team is around 124th or something says it all really on where the league would be without us.

Think you need to go and read up on your history of Scottish Football. Why do you think Rangers and Celtic are called the Old Firm. ( Something to do with them working together to make money) . Please dont come on and spout rubbish.

Fact money talks , just one little fact celtic games on sky bet alone brought in over on billion scottish football 4 bill so if the men at the top want it to happen it will happen these facts are easy to get hold of go to any bookies finance page so for celtic being ranked is imateral its one of the biggest teams in the world and just my oppion if celtic was to come up for sale ther would be a queue for miles

All the non old firm fans , you keep bleeting abour the old firm wanting to go to england for more money.
if england said welcome , bring another team to make 3 , you lot would sell your on mothers to come with us. you have no morals , i hope we end up in the 3rd , yes it will be hard, not only for us .every money wise chairman dos't want to miss our money. our crowds will be down , but the true gers will stand and be counted . id rather give elgin and montrose money than scumdee united and the aberdeen.

09 may 2012 22:07:48
i am not very clever but if millers bid was better than the blue knights and brian kennedy and miller pulls out then does that make the blue knights and brian kennedy the best offer on the table ? but as i say i am not very clever,just like the duff mob who are clever and keep on delaying this and making more and more money as each day passes by.

09 May 2012 21:50:01
back to football matters if we can bears.who do u think we should sign in the summer.id say we should go for big jon daly at united.he would b great for us {Ed022's Note - Lol.}

U cant buy anyone and do u really think dundee would sell 2 u and ban wont be overturned

FFS get a grip your embarrassing yourself.....TRANSFER EMBARGO !!!! jesus

Ha ha ha ha ha has this guy been living on the moon

09 May 2012 20:44:42
So what now? I firmly believe that the English led consortium will be in charge by end of season! Mad I know but what have they got to lose? View us as a long term investment over the next 5 years even if that means starting from division 3 which everyone knows will not happen! Eat humble pie do the paying our price bit while all the time getting the club back on an even keel, back to the top of Scottish football which won't be difficult while all the time masterminding an exit out of Scottish football into a new league more worthy of our club such as euro league.

The next 72 hours are the biggest in our history but we will come out the other side!

24 hours ago you had never heard of this English consortium. Can I have your address to send some salesmen friends along. You would be the answer to their dreams.

09 May 2012 18:57:04
So there are other birders! Aye right.
Should the improbable actually happen and the new birders take ownership I would like to know only one thing. How many pounds sterling has Craig whyte made in the process of destroying the club. This should be discussed publicly so everyone will know what a despicable person he is.
Duff and duffer are no better. If we survive, a big if! We, the fans must give financial support.

What's a birder? {Ed022's Note - A bird thats...er...}

Think its a female steel erector doug t.s.o

09 May 2012 16:58:34
D&P Satement on New Bidders


DUFF and Phelps have confirmed that all three parties bidding for Rangers have the financial resource to a complete a deal - and they have reiterated that they want to get it done by this weekend.

The remarkable Rangers takeover story took a stunning new twist yesterday when firstly Bill Miller withdrew his offer to shock supporters and then it was revealed there were new players at the table.

The administrators are now in major discussions with all three and insist they want business to be concluded before the end of campaign on Sunday.

Sarah Bell from Duff and Phelps told rangers.co.uk: "We have three previously undeclared bidders, one of which is seeking a stand-alone CVA and the other two following the same plan as Bill Miller, ie an asset sale to a newco with the old company exiting through CVA.

"Of course if it is a stand-alone CVA then that will take several weeks to do and one of the aspects of that will be funding over that longer period but if a party was willing to fund that period then we could extend the deadline.

"The three main deciding factors for selection of the best bid are deliverability of the deal, quantum of a CVA and timing.

"In terms of expediency then going down an asset sale or newco route would be quicker.

"We are, of course, very conscious that the season ends this weekend and we hope to be running with one of the parties in the next few days.

"The three bidders have been doing very sophisticated research into the situation so they are well aware of what is involved. That was encouraging for us.

"Some fans may wonder why three bidders have suddenly emerged when Bill Miller was in preferred bidder status and then withdrew but they had been studying the situation.

"What we can say is that without going into exact figures we are satisfied that all three parties have the financial wherewithal to complete a deal.

"We have also taken the decision not to send out renewals for season tickets so that any party coming in to take over the club would have that funding.

"I can say that HMRC are interested to see the merits of each one of the offers and they are open to further discussion with us.

"We want to try to reassure supporters that while our duty as administrators is to secure the best deal for creditors this is not just about the survival of the club but giving it the ability to thrive.

"As I said we hope to be in running with one party by the end of this week."

Why does the HMRC spokesman have to keep saying "We have not discussed this with anyone"?

This is the biggest load of b0ll0x i have read yet.
NEXT WEEKEND !! all they wanted was your money until the end of the season.
the rangers support has been played like a big fat trout on very thin line.
the net is ready.

09 May 2012 15:56:46
Looks like things are looking a lot brighter at Rangers today, Whyte has reached agreement to sell his shares to a uk-based consortium which was needed for a cva and 3 bidders are about to make moves to buy the club.

Bill miller was just a stalling tactic to take some pressure off D&P over not naming a bidder, all the while they have been negotiating with the real bidders.

D&P say a new onwer will be in place by Sunday, yeah i know they've said things like this a number of times but truthfully if this was not the case i doubt they would have put out a statement saying so, they would look foolish on an epic scale if this was not the case.

Good times ahead for Rangers.

The also said the Miller deal was "unconditional".

Not believing a word from D and P and haven't from day 1 !

BARRA1591

Such trust!

Duff and phelps and an unnamed consortia of suited spiv wide boys.

Never since the days of Lords and Serfs has the working class been so blinded.

Good times ahead???WTF..stevo

I truely hope so. Ive been thinking and wats the bears opinions on the club "representatives". Im out of the loop so to speak (in England) and posted earlier about pro-active solutions. Who has actually represented the fans? The fighting fund is one thing but actually addressing the real problems in budget shortfalls and running costs and sharing with the fans the realities and looking for solutions from within? Who is doing this on our behalf? CheltBlue

09 May 2012 14:59:53
Duff and Phelps are evaluating three offers for the Glasgow giants after American tycoon Bill Miller dramatically withdrew his offer on Tuesday.

Co-administrator David Whitehouse today claimed owner Craig Whyte has reached an agreement to transfer his shares to a UK-based consortium, a requirement for a Company Voluntary Arrangement.

Two of the three bidders are new to the process, according to Whitehouse.

So its safe to say that Bill Ng is back
in the running & i feel its his bid that
is close to matching that of miller's

I've seen reports that Milan Mandaric is thinking of leaving Sheff Wed & I have a feeling that he may be involved with one of the interested parties.

The Pilot!

09 May 2012 14:28:22
lies lies and more lies. 3 new bidders my @rse, just another delaying tactic from duff and phelps, who remember are getting paid handsomely for every day they are in control. they were also CW's choice of administrator when the crap hit the fan. i just dont trust anyone who has any financial position at ibrox anymore. ally called for transparency over a week ago and all thats happened is that the position is even less clear. any potential buyer will have to work hard at getting us fans (the clubs beating heart) to give them any backing feel sorry for the people our cub owes money too, but all i want is for us to come through this with our history intact. if that means division 3 then so be it, and we will see how many of the SPL clubs are still around when we get back in a few years time. we will probably pass a few of them on our way up as they slide into oblivion

09 May 2012 13:45:25
A lot is said about continuing the history of RFC but what does it *really* mean?
If you think about it this history was achieved with many different Rangers teams already.
Family is family and will always live on. Bring on the pheonix.

Not the pheonix. Its a vulture!

09 May 2012 13:26:56
Wow!! When are you guys finally going to start to get this! Bill Miller withdrew for two reasons. The books show that Rangers are f@cked! He also stated that the Rangers fans made it clear he wasn�t wanted. Now, let�s get one thing straight, this wasn�t a small, minority element of the fans as there were many more on here, RangersMedia.com and Follow Follow that said they didn�t want him. If you had any shred of decency, of giving Miller the chance that so many of you talked about then you would�ve ripped that banner down at the game. But it wasn�t the only one. There was a groundswell of fans that didn�t want him and were quite happy to let the others do the shouting against him. Whether you believe they are a minority, small section or whatever, they were fans because they were pictured in seats, in the ground. Hey, I bet they�re all season ticket holders too. Your fans have really pissed on your own chips����yet again bears, and this time I think you deserve it. I had cut you guys a little slack over the last few weeks but now you deserve everything you get. Christ!! Your own supporters trust spokesman Andy Kerr is now trying to say that Bill Miller is wrong, and that he didn�t leave the deal because of the fans but because he didn�t �think that he had an understanding of the business."
Crap!! Everyone understands the business of Rangers quite well now. Your team�s f@cked!! And about time too! Up till now I�ve wanted Rangers to get out of this mess but everytime a hand trys to feed you the fans bite it. The SPL are even giving you a chance to sort it out before they change the rules and you can�t even get that sorted. SFA punish you with a transfer embargo not to punish you but to save you from your own worst enemy. Yourselves.
Now, via my taxes, I have to pay £20 towards the tax shortfall of a club I don�t even support. I would much rather spend that money something else.

Spend it on petrol and diesel that cameron is pushing up every week ? look round about you at the taxes you are already paying then complain to the real people that are screwing you ,and thats not gers doug

You've only mentioned two aspects. Finance and the fans. Now why is that? cos it suits your taste, not that you know anything about either.
Nothing about £11.2m being enough to handle the exit plan and even more money needed after 1 season to bolster the squad, while the revenue to the club is cut. But Mr. Miller made no mention of the additional funding after 1 season. Maybe his advisors didn't know either that more money would be needed. He is not going to come out and say ooops I boobed sorry. To identify two aspects Finance - fair enough but to land it on the fans? - only cos it suits you.
Fergus McCann took a bit of stick did he not?
'Criticisms from journalists (much of the Scottish press), ex-players (Cadette), ex-board members (Michael Kelly and Brian Dempsey) and even dinosaur rock stars (Jim Kerr) were non-stop in their attacks. The press lapped up in any way a chance to have a dig at Fergus, something that he complained about as well.'
' Churlishly, he was lampooned for his austere dress sense (e.g. the Bunnet), and he was myopically criticised for having spent money on re-buidling the stadium instead of on the team.'
'It was disappointing that Fergus did not come to Seville for the UEFA Cup final in 2003, but after some of the personal abuse that he had to suffer from various sections in Scotland (both within and outwith Celtic FC circles) you can't blame him much.'
'I remember during the unfurling of the flag the season after stopping 10 in a row, that some fans were booing Fergus'
Ring any bells?
You mention hands trying to feed us who? Craig Whyte? Bill Miller? SPL? SFA? who exactly?

get a grip a few folk from this site, followfollow, and rangersmedia so theres about 100 folk - out of 43,000 that was at the game. thats a minority pal. get a grip.

the books have obviously not balanced the way he thought they would and hes bolted - the banner didnt help matters but it wasnt the root cause. stop looking for a reason to blame fans and look at the facts. thats exactly how business is carried out. if there was money to be made here a banner wouldnt of chased him off. the sfa helping us? you know f$ck all. instead of chasing rangers for "taxes" chase a mr craig whyte, this is when taxes stopped being paid. and with regards to ebt's weve not even heard the judgement - innocent til proven guilty rtid

ryanrfc

Main Poster - one real expert thinks Miller was wasting time.

Football finance expert Brendan Guilfoyle thinks Rangers must turn to the Blue Knights and Brian Kennedy after Bill Miller wasted their time.
American trucking tycoon Miller withdrew his offer five days after gazzumping his rivals to be named preferred bidder by the administrator.
"I think he's just got in the way to be honest, but thankfully only for five days," Guilfoyle told BBC 5 live.
"My information is that Kennedy and the Blue Knights are real."
Continue reading the main story
“I'd almost be on bended knee crawling back to Brian Kennedy and the Blue Knights”
Brendan Guilfoyle
Miller had proposed creating a "newco" Rangers while the old club dealt with the historical debt.
Two of the three bidders to enter the race after the American's withdrawal favour a similar strategy, but Guilfoyle thinks exiting administration through a Company Voluntary Arrangement would be a better option.
"I'm not surprised by developments," he said. "I don't think what became known as the incubator company was going to work.
"My information was that there wasn't that much activity around the club following Miller being announced as the preferred bidder."

09 May 2012 12:44:57
Just to say its nice to see all the dhims reading what ed007 says and then coming in here to try and make themselfs sound as if they know what they are on about.Fair does 007 does seem to know his s##t and seems quite fair about it all but we can all read what he says.

I noticed that as well lol cant they think for themselves?

09 May 2012 12:23:30
your supporters are still living in the last century,be truthful who in there right minds would want to take that on.bile spouted evry week even worse in your present situation.take kids to that who would be the next generation of fans,you must be joking.join the rest of us in the 21 century,and treat football as football ,you know it makes sense.that is if you have any.OLD BOB,

Hi bob you will find sectarism and bigotry doesnt only exist in football it goes on in every day life ,so why blame football ,go to santa ponsa or other spanish resorts and you find fans from both camps singing all the songs ,what the f is that got to do with rangers or celtic ? ps.i kick with the right foot ,if you are roughly the same age as me do you remember when you went for your 1st interviews for jobs main question was what school did you go to ,scotland has always been like that ,but maybe not as open as it used to be nowadays doug

Dont know what team you support old bob ,but have you ever had the bile ? do you know what it is ? dont come on here insulting us decent supporters and questioning our sense ,just go bacl to your coal fire with black grate and watch your black and white 12 inch screen tv ,ps remember to switch it off when you see the small dot doug

Are there two dougs?

09 May 2012 11:39:01
Are rangers fans happy with the representation they get from the likes of dingwall etc? Last night he clearly refused to condemn the fans who sent the abusive E mails to Bill Miller,was that wise? D&P are clearly the problem in this mess,yet no legal pressure seems to be put on them.Surely if the supporters groups united,and done their own due diligence,the actual figures involved would be much clearer.When you work with the accepted figures it seems to be an unworkable situation needing upwards of 25m just to start up.That is of course not counting the BTC which will be at best 24m added to the debt.Reading the posts from the real,decent rangers fans,one thing is for sure,murray should hang his head in shame.These are decent working guys,looking forward to taking their kids to see their first game and that has,maybie,been taken from them.And thats sad............green jhedi

Spot on gj, dingwall is not fit, also if me and fellow fans of all clubs can see its gonna take tens of millions to get on the road again, i dont see how people buying the club cant.Admins just dont add up to me ,never have although proposals put in front of them might have been awful just throw them out . I slipped up the other day about miller about giving him a chance , i honestly give up ,so have most fans..... sad sad days
craig+babybear

Main imposter - Crocodile tears, that's all.
I have read your posts and know what you are about. You fail to have a dig while trying to pass yourself off as decent, you are a having a laugh.
Here you go with an attempt at an insolvency expert and inside info on the Tax tribunal via another website. You also claim in another post to know what all this is like, for your info the celtic 94 situ has nothing on this, you know zilch, nada, zero and zippo about how this affects a bear.
Do me a favour and keep your false claims to your own page and your two facedness to your old employee in your workplace.

If you lived in Dingwall or Wick you would want any reason to leave town
Only problem is that by the time they reach Govan they are so Fu they cant remember why they are there

@2: how bitter can you get? you think you know what someone is about just by reading posts on a banter (yes, banter site). You honestly believe that he spent time to type that just to wind you up? Do you think he did it to ingratiate himself to Rangers fans or to genuinely sympathise with the plight of decent fans? If you don't get it, you must be quite twiested and the type of bitter fan your club needs to lose.

2/What on earth are you gibbering about? Of course i have had a dig,but it does not mean you cant empathise with decent fans.I dont claim,and never have,to have inside info on any tax case but the facts are you will owe at best 24m,rangers accept that,why dont you? Of course the celtic situation is not the same but the outcome,liquidation,is.Old employee? Are you mad? And finally,i dont use other websites so wrong again.Whoever you are..............green jhedi

@Craig and baby bear; Dont give up mate,you wont vanish.rangers will be playing next season,probably in the SPL,or failing that div 3...........green jhedi

Cheers mate much love in this post lol, think itll eventually still be in spl but with kids and sanctions. i hope we can sort a cva....
sounds like the players are fed up aswell now.
craigandbabybear

09 May 2012 11:20:37
The only way out of this is to get Harry Redknapps lawyer or OJ Simpsons lawyer involved - or is D&P already using them?

09 May 2012 10:52:31
Oh my god, its happened. I never thought this day woud come but it has. I feel dirty and cheap. But after reading some of these posts i actually DO feel sorry for you lot( not the idiots , just the good, well behaved, honest fans). I hope you have something resembling a club to support next year as in all honesty, it wouldnt be the same without you.

Joeshmo1888

What was i thinking, one moment of weakness. The moment has gone. Bye bye Rangers...lol.

Joeshmo1888

Bye bye joesmo whens your 124 th birthday ? you must have a few wrinkles about your coupon now lol doug

@2: aren't you a funny guy. Funny in a strange sense, that is.

09 May 2012 10:28:22
Guys as angry as i am and also very confused with the whole situation the one bright light is Brian Kennedy!! This guy has been correct all along. He said craig White would be an obstacle he also said things must be done quickly and he also said the Miller bid is pointless as when he looks into it further he will pull out! ALL TRUE!! He once stated that he would not let our great club die and i believe him! he is not a coward like the rest and turns up to Ibrox, He faces the supporters and i believe we need to get behind this man and if he follows the Blue Knights and supports what Paul Murray is doing then so do I......... Rangers are my life, if things are bad then my life is bad when things are great my life is great.; Its more than just a football team!! Rangers Till I DIE!!!!

Come in to the real world ,you poor wee soul,you talk as though you are 5 years old,grow up,rangers will always be there to support ,may be not as strong .but they will always be there, old bob

So .... What is it exactly that you are going to DO to get behind this guy. That is the position adopted by those who do stabbing in the back.

09 May 2012 09:38:51
Genuine businessmen do not do their deals publicly. They negotiate behind closed doors etc.. and, when the deal is done, then they release acceptable information. This has been one gigantic circus and I feel sorry for the true Rangers supporter who just wants to see his club continue. The media, as they will always do, make-up their reports with one eye on false reporting. (An insider, who cant be named etc. etc.) It sells papers. Common sense asks who, in their right mind, would take over a business which has unknown penalties both financial and business restricitve hanging over them. That's why Miller walked - too many unknowns involved.

Must agree with everything here. People have gone to prison for insider trading and some Daily Mirror pundits lost their jobs trying to push shares. Not that there has been much of a market in Rangers shares for some time. I think Miller was probably horrified at the abuse but with the Atlantic between him and Govan he might have gambled on a good thing. Which this so obviouslly is not.

09 May 2012 09:09:45
you know things are bad when lenny a bloke that has been on the recieving end of pure bile from are fans is worried for us if this works out this sh#t against him should stop now i personly think he and celtic is are only chance

The thoughts of a man who gave up smoking twenty years ago reaching for the last cigarette while they are tying his feet to a post.

09 May 2012 08:35:10
Reading in the papers about these emails sent to miller and I do believe some people sent them. You know why? Cause we have some sick f*****g fans. They think the club is there's. Well you know what it isn't. 'we are the people'? dont make me laugh. You are nothing you are the sick b******s that caused neil lennon all his problems, you are the ones that shout the sick abuse every game, you are the ones that cause our club to be watched by uefa at every game, cause you want to shout slogans from over 200 years ago. Leave our club, leave everything to do with our club. Let the true 'people' go and enjoy it. I would love to take my daughter to ibrox, but I would not let her take in the disgusting veil chants that I hear. I spoke to a police officer about it at one game and he said thanks, we will check that on cctv, I said but you heard it yourself. Well next week those guys were back singing away again. So am I expected to go over and kick them out? If I shout abuse at them I know I would be thrown out. We have turned against these fans but they wont leave. We have parasites from the top to the bottom in this club. And when a man comes along, the only man with actual money, these idiots say no, that's not who I personally want so lets get him out. Don't they realise that this club has been looking for an owner for years now, and we find one with money and they decide to hound him to make him leave. So what if the TBK get preferred bidder status will some of these gremlins decide nah dont want them and start there own private campaign against them aswell? There is nothing wrong with voicing an opinion nothing wrong at all, but to personally act someone like a coward well thats wrong. Who do you want in charge, some sheikh who will hand us fortunes? TBK and kennedy dont have alot of money to throw at us, they have a plan but so did miller. We heard stories of miller plans nothing more. Christ let our club try and come back from this, we need an owner soon or its liquidation.
Sorry for the rant bears.
Don

Much of your post is unsubstantiated, bias, blinkered and overly simplistic Don. How are the anger management classes going anyway? oh and remember, WATP, and I dont do sectarian chants, dont do walking away either! LB

09 May 2012 05:47:59
Just a thought, don't blast me if this has already been covered!
But with such a huge fan base, why couldn't Rangers adopt the barca model and have the fans own the club?

Pommie Gooner

09 May 2012 04:37:58
Well done the people...


message from Rangers supporters
and fans "loud and clear" ....

Why was this L&C message not
vocal when DM or CW was flashing
the cash!

We are BUST...thanks DM and CW
and fans...message loud and clear!

09 May 2012 02:04:17
The thought of this guys staff nd others in Chicago getting called by the clowns at he Record makes me cringe , first thing they would have done would have jumped onto the DR website and had a word with Bill. I'm not saying the fans banners were 100% to blame, but slagging the guy off for trying to help, investing his time? Why? Where's the que of buyers? And if ANYONE is buying the other 3 potential buyers cr*p you need you head looking at. You are going to have clown fans in every club , and they are maybe ntitled to voice their views. But the DR DIDNT HAVE TO PUBLISH THOSE IMAGES WORLDWIDE. They are not anti rangers or Celtic etc they are just amateurs out of their depth and unaware or more likley complacent. DON'T BUY THIS RAG BEARS AND BHOYS. Joe

"I'm not saying the fans banners were 100% to blame"

The idiots that brought them to the game seemed to have forgotten about Edu , Bocanegra and Bedoya ! Serious , but not surprising , low IQ gaff .

Dodo FC - consumed by it's own hate .

jimi88

09 may 2012 01:18:20
bill miller has just been on u s telly , he said in all his life has he not seen any buisness come back from the trouble the rangers are in, he said it took his soliciters two days to find out that its a no go area this is bad no more rangers thats sad rip

I find it all incredibly sinister. Hundreds of vile emails, other social media and those banners.....points to it being orchestrated by someone. Perhaps a jealous failed bidder. A shipyard welder isn't the kind of guy to think up the banners, pay for them and rope in a dozen people to hold them up. NO sounds like puppets being used by former director types. Well they've succeeded.

09 May 2012 00:19:17
I don't believe the miller rubbish about banners and emails. However what are these clowns doing?

Our club is teetering on the brink, we have a preferred bidder and he gets abused. This will be the same mob that produce the songs of the 1690's.

We deserve all we get.

08 May 2012 23:40:53
Anti-miller banners at rangers game
http://nfs.stvfiles.com/imagebase/123/605x339/123047-bill-miller-banner-at-rangers-game.jpg

cheers you just killed RANGERS

08 May 2012 23:30:10
UEFA has not started looking at Ranger FC Yet. Just wait until they do. Mind that you owe money for Jelly Fish, Wallace and the loan deals of Bartley and Wiess.

What about celik ? davie c

Celtic are also owed £40k and ticket money from last old firm game £240k

08 May 2012 23:13:50
im a celt with no love lost on the gers but hear me out , as a peaple yous have been lyed and bulls===ed since day one of this car crash saga point blank its the peaple in charge is the problem has it dawned on yous yet that white bk and co is just stripping the carcas clean ,but your problem started and should finnish at the hands of your so called sir murray on his point it has been the best divert tactic of all time now thats the sort of person clegg should hire for the next election as it was done to perfection and is still working out on his behalf what a guy the so called true blue p.s this guy is still to be valued at 80 million and yous are dipping in to your wifes kids money becouse of him hang your heads in shame accept its over and the real fans of rangers look at the wider piture go it alone save ya money ask politley to start in the 3 divion and try to start your own team and not one that these lyches will cling on to and drain , your only way forward is liqidation

08 May 2012 21:52:53
Why are Rangers never in Star Trek ? : Star Trek is set in the future!.........DH