Rangers Banter Archive March 09 2012

 

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09 Mar 2012 23:34:05
This maybe stupid but , when the season is finished would it be a good idea to raise money at the glasgow boyne and belfast boyne celebrations for rangers? atleast 100‘000+ at both of them, thought it was reasonable because that's when every rangers fan is basically out on force lol, mind just a suggestion lads and laddettes (if there. is any) ed? are they female gers fans on here? or has been?, stewie {Ed001's Note - no idea, I don't log the genders of the posters sorry.}

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Your on the wrong site fella,try a dating site.

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Youd be better dain a sponsored walk ,

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Dear me,trying the bigot united card! what a disgrace.

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How about we disown all that nonsense (Boyne celebrations!) & leave it in the 17th century where it belongs?

You state "that's when every Rangers fan is basically out in force"-well not me- I categorically inform you!

There must be better ways of raising funds than reverting to type- an affliction a minority (but still too many) of the fans suffer from!

Hopefully if/when Rangers secure new ownership, whoever that may be, they demand the support stop singing songs not relevant to football ie The Sash, Derry's Walls, Billy Boys... etc! Maybe we could sing about our heroes Greig, Baxter, Johnstone, Cooper, Ally, Laudrup, Gazza, Albertz, Naisy & many more(thers's hunners of them)

End of rant!

So your idea is not maybe stupid- it is stupid (sorry if I offend you) but we need to leave the past behind & rise from the ashes, renewed, reinvigorated & READY for the challenges ahead not go backwards. Thanks for listening(reading)

ThatsNotMyName

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Cmon give him a chance he did not mean an orange walk he wants to do something to save his club i support celtic so i ask what would you do to save the club,still love our pope as much as they love there queen b

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EVERY RANGERS FAN??

GET A grip man

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Did i ask for cheek? naw don't thinkso so less ae it, and btw the celebration isny bigoted! everybody is welcome so who are the bigoted ones now! naepoint shootin me down dcos i did say if it was stupid! so come on then sherlocks wit ideas have you got! least av tried and that's notmyname maybe you haven't been to one to experience one minus the wee neddy kents! but there is rangers fans there that would dig in their pockets even motherwell fans go ro them! well just to let you know that every band sectarian to dhims are actually doin fundraisers here and across the province you all might shoot me down but majority of fans go to these, money to be made i think! guess what I'M sorry for offendin you lot, just a naw mate would have been fine, no an effin pointless rant or a bitter person from the other side! . they won't go away with a click of fingers so may aswell use it while its their bad idea or no! probs be better than craig whyte will ever do! oh btw RANT OVER! , Stewie

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Stewie, did you make the original post? It was coherent, the response is barely intelligible. So everyone is welcome at a Boyne celebration, does that include the catholic community? By what I can deduce from your post you are from N.I. Can I pose a few questions to you?
Do you attend church regularly?
How is a celebration of the Boyne not sectarian?
Why do you support Rangers?
If the new owners of R.F.C declared that the songs I mentioned before(sash etc) were not welcome, would you still support the Rangers?
I would hope you would still support Rangers, without prejudice, cos we need it, just not from people who dwell in 17th century.
This time I don't care if I have offended you!
ThatsNotMyName

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@stewie; all welcome except catholics eh? away back in time . it's the 21st century you mug.ed,i assume you dont realise what he's on about? {Ed001's Note - I gathered, but I thought it was about time this kind of thing was pointed out as ridiculous, rather than just ignored. Until people start realising that this sectarian nonsense should have been left behind hundreds of years ago and has no place in footie, we will never be rid of it.}

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Seriously that should be in the dictionary btw, GET A GRIP MAN, a think you all need to, its reality, you make me laufh and you lot are apparently rangers fans tae, no wanty argue wse you but come on ye tryin tae prove somethin like, am a rangers fan but av never beento one? ......... chicken balls! don't try and kid yourselves on haha, aye a ain't stupid their will deffo people be out their thst is like thst but come on! a said majority of them b,ut tell ye wit since you can sit their and be like that then we can all agree on the one of the other posts, DO A SPONSORED WALK! god sake touchy subject or what! shouldn't have opened ma mind lol, listen guys a genuinly appologise but least its an idea ( STUPID ONE) a want to help my beloved team out and going to all lengths to do it shows how much respect you have for them even if it is a bad decsion such as my original post, but am been genuinely. truthful when a said their is money to be made, god sake some of ye are actin as if a said go to a UVF OR UDA or any of that pointless. sh!t to raise money, people forget majority of rangers is protestant which i suggested was a protestant heritage where majority of rangers fans go ( not fact) but i wouldn't be surprised, what i hste anout it most is when somethin like this is mentioned everybody automatically jumps on the bigotry, sectarian band wagon, when it isnt like that (sxcept of the minority fuds that make sectsrian remarks and give it a bad name) listen al just drop it k, ed can you take the posts off? think av started a wee debacle lol, stewie, sorry bud just want to correct my mistake.

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Cmon sherlocks ??? coz thats the best idea ever ha an every1 isnt welcome at those things and for u to say it isnt bigoted please wake up an smell the coffee outrageous post


TB

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Stewie, do you want all of that nonsense associated with your club? Whether or not you think it's bigoted, many people - Rangers fans included - think it's outdated, attracts bigots and has nothing to do with football. It's time Rangers totally disassociated itself from everything like that that has contributed to tarnishing the club's reputation in the past so it doesn't do so in the future.

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Fortunately or perhaps unfortunately it is not the religion that is the problem but the politics of the religion but football should bring people together no matter what but still be able to wind each other up and know the lines to cross but lets not kid ourselves it is onesided but rangers fans halve got to rise above it and hold our heads up high and beleive WE ARE THE PEOPLE BBBLUE

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Unfortunately every orange walk ihave had the misfortune to see has quite a large following with rangers tops on , so as much as i disagree with his logic one thing is true there is a great tie between both parties , and that tells me you will never change and remember ibrox was used for orange events in the not too distant past ............ok murray stopped it but why cos it sure wasnt fan pressure maybe uefa ?????????

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To thats not my name. Can I please inform you that catholics also celebrated the battle of the boyne as it freed them also from jameses rath

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But that post i wrote has nothing to do with the band scene being involved with rangers, and catholics are welcome guys a good few of my mates are deep celtic fans.and they like to go for the fact the atmosphere they think its great, right ok IT IS STUPID i didn't think before a posted but the ones that aren't welcome are the ones that turn up just to cause bother! including our own! and yes i do go to church THAT'S what REAL orangemen do! its not the boyne celebrations thats bigoted it the vaginas at the side of the road that want to cause bother! for a fact ( i know) the individual lodges are working with the police every time the orange order are parading ( not illegal btw) we work with the police our own stewards stop people from walking any further. i.e if they are too drunk, trying to cause bother and basically giving us a bad name, which always seems to be the only time its on the news ( bad press) some of you think i may be bigoted but i am not i am stickin up for our institution and the decent catholics thst ARE their. and YES i will still support RANGERS (50 YEARS BTW) the songs like derrys walls and the sash etc are not rangers songs they are loyalist folk songs ( in some sense) that shouldn't associate with rangers and football! when i am at ibrox i don't sing them, i only sing the likes of blue sea of ibrox, 4 men had a dream, yes who ever it was is RIGHT, IMO all of the supporters groups should get together and try and think of new songs to sin such as for legends just RANGERS songs would be fine, right this was. i say, IF anybody did raise money from those parades not saying they would do, it will just have to be named anonymous because i do think rangers wouldn't even accept it if did say. LOYAL ORANGE ORDER OF SCOTLAND/IRELAND on it lol, all i am saying is that their is lots of ways to raise money but its looks impossibly realistic way to raise money ( wouldn't be allowed) like we do for HELP FOR HEROES, CANCER RESEARCH ,all of those major charities which we do, we are not a bad instituition or bad to the public, or our image. WHAT should be stopped is the WEARING OF RANGERS TOPS. likewise the CELTIC TOPS at republican marches cos as some said it doesn't associate with football, and everybody I APPOLOGISEA OK sorry if i offended anybody or touched a nerve. oh BTW AM FROM GLASGOW NOT N.I, stewie

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09 Mar 2012 23:35:41
Have read administrators statement a few times the part that is concerning me is "the million a month saving will enable the club to fulfill its fixtures should it remain in admin for remainder of season" suggests two things 1.club will be in admin until end of season 2. Admins fees are approx 800k a month all the savings are achieving is too pay their fees(line their pockets) paranoid?

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There is more bad news on the way.

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Not paranoid mate,just sensible. this is juggling numbers again.i still expect liquidation before the season ends

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09 Mar 2012 23:26:58
im in favour of the red and black campaign i also think it`ll be a symbol of fans unity not to let our club die and a statment to david murray and craig whyte on how the fans feel about them much the same as man u with their old green and yellow colours in ralation to the glaziers. while selling out ibrox for league games is important we also have an amazing game with ac milan glorie coming up and a chance to see our heros of yester year in action this is not only suporting 2 good charity cuases but also raising cash for the club theres still plenty tickets left and id urge all blue noses to snap up as many tickets as poss and make this game a sell out!!

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Have you seen the windows at old tafford ? the glaziers did a fine job.

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09 Mar 2012 23:07:40
To all Rangers Supporters.

Lets never forget the last few weeks, never forget the the pain we've all felt, the fear of losing our club at its history. Maybe we're needing to bring back the Bill Struth kind of tradition. Our name in world football been tainted, we have become a laughing stock, but we will recover, maybe take 1 or 2 years but we will be back.
We should never take our club ever for granted again. My first memory was my dad taking me to Ibrox in the old Govan Stand (double shuffle), watching players like Cooper, Stein.
Football not just about who wins on the Saturday, its the memories of that Saturday. Ibrox like many grounds holds millions of memories of a dad taking his kids to watch Their team for the first time.
Next time your in Ibrox just remember the great players that have played on that pitch and not just for Rangers, player like Franz Beckenbauer.

Das Shadow

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Jimmy johnstone

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Lets not forget the ibrox disaster....i was supposed to go to that game.....cancelled at the last second....thank god....rangers rule

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Well said Das, level headed sense your talking. I have same kind of memories but obviously from the other side, try and educate some of the ostriches that have been posting tonight.......Stevie

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Das Shadow

You've got much more pain to come, including liquidation, that is what any new purchaser will want.

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Yeah Wee Jimmy Johnstone was a great, never saw him, he was up there with the best of them.

Das Shadow

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Kenny dalglish

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Recent player Larsson, the goal he scored against us at parkhead, think it was the 6,2 games, chipped it over klos, past player jimmy Johnstone

Das Shadow

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09 Mar 2012 23:01:10
Who would care if whittaker went? Since he signed big money contract he's been p!ish or injured. One good season and he thoughVgt he was Robertovarlos get rid would hav rather kept Wylde on 5-6 grand

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What a great player VARLOS was.

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09 Mar 2012 22:59:52
Very disappointed that Paul Murray is involving Ticketus. They agreed togive My Whyte the monet to buy our club selling us all short and riding us into the ground. Ticketus are only interested in satisfying its investors at any means. Ticketus and Mr Whyte are working together in my opinion. Im not going to give them a single penny. Pay twice for our club NOT. Lets hope for a better alternative.

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Why would ticketus give whyte a painting?

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Ticketus (careful, sounds a bit roman that). own rangers.

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09 Mar 2012 22:56:33
Next week , there is going to be more bad news and more revelations be warned

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Oh aye...

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And i think that a bit of bad news next week will be that PAYE & NI for last months wages is due to paid and its a cool £1m
and D&P said that there was a shortfall of £4.5m needed to keep club afloat till end of season .now if as they say the savings needed are set at roughly £1m a month from now till then .
March £1m April £1m May £1m
that still leaves a shortfall of £1.5m
D&P are at it and it dont look to good anymore does it

below is what i copied from Daily Mail 3rd march and what D&P told them

Following meetings with Rangers boss McCoist and PFA Scotland chief executive Fraser Wishart, Duff & Phelps released a statement that underlined the dire financial picture as they attempt to stave off liquidation.
‘In short, the Rangers business is trading at a substantial loss and we have no alternative but to fill an approximate £4.5m shortfall by the end of the season,’ said joint-administrator Paul Clark.
‘It is therefore imperative that we find savings of approximately £1m per month to ensure the ongoing viability of the business.

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2109388/Rangers-save-1m-month-SPL-season.html#ixzz1ofLAlIkT

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Aye and if it's not next week the following week dream on timmy.Feeling your fear already.

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09 Mar 2012 22:49:26
Ok going to ask a question here it might be a daft one and i'm sure you'll let me know if it is but with all your players taking massive pay cuts today does this not play into your owner Craig WHYTES HANDS, his outgoings have been slashed drastically,. Now cut me some slack if it's a stupid question but Mr Smirnoff wants to know........Stevie

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They have not been slashed one bit D&F charge 1 mill a month they have only secured there wages how much dose the club make nil b

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Not in my humble opinion as whyte hasnt paid a penny into club just makes it more attractive to buyers they can now set up their own wage structure from what would be in normal circumstances a very low cost base

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Well,well,well.somebody has spotted the flaw in your good news. well one of them.

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09 Mar 2012 22:41:27
Wonder if Celtic players were ever asked to take a pay cut if they would? I mean samaras has been robbing them for 4 years now, 25k a week, what is it 10 goals in 4 years?

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What a ridiculous question.

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Samaras aint on that mate.

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Mute point, like so many you make dears. celtic are not in that position. taxes paid.

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09 Mar 2012 22:40:03
Two certainties in life, death and taxes.
Pay up or die.
No businessman interested in getting a reyurn will pay up so you need another white knight.

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09 Mar 2012 22:39:58
Just wanna take my hat of to the man we call super ally, Sat on the bench when we were kids came of it and showed what he was made of. And to think the crap he is going through now and he still doesn't moan or complain what goes through it cos he loves us!

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Shame he's a cack manager though.kinda spoils the love in dont you think?

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Aye wit ever, wit other boy would be oot there still stickin Up fur us? Walter? Alex or big dick na SOOPER ally in his 1st season! Gits my backin Til we die

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Till you die.next week then? end pf the month at best

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09 Mar 2012 22:35:07
Listen up tic fans want to follow in the footsteps. of decent celtic fans like green jhedi etc don't see them on this today, cos do you know why? they liked the banter and now rangers are pickin themselves back up and now their leavin us to it! get a grip guys!

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09 Mar 2012 22:34:31
Www.redblackRangers.com

Buy a scarf and spread the word Bears. We are the poeple!

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Keep on paying and paying and paying. i'm off to tesco tomorrow to pay twice for everything. why? cos i spend 2 hours a week in the damn place and they need more money. at least i eat.
what does 'we are the people' mean ? there appears to be no context. is it an answer to a question? did someone miss some words out and nobody remembers ? makes me imagine backing singers at the eurovision song contest somehow. guy at the front in a silver lurex suit singing some other meaningless drivel and the backing singers over his shoulder singing 'we are the people' in falsetto tones.

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Aye and hail hail is a belter eh? fail fail sounds a lot better tbh

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09 Mar 2012 22:33:34
One of the main sticking points in the players agreeing to take the cut was they were only prepared to do it unless it was guaranteed to them there would be no staff cuts throughout the club but the admin wanted them to take their cut AND they were gonna cull the non playing staff

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That and the financial guarantees.

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Come on. their 'wages' are complicated. they get win bonuses (guffaw!) bonuses for being top of the league (howl!) some are on insurance pay outs. so wheres the small print ? have they just decided to lose every match ?

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09 Mar 2012 22:29:55
just heard that the 10spl clubs have set up a meeting so they can decide who plays rangers next at ibrox even after the split the bottom six have expressed a wish to play them lolololololololololololololol

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Will they have the time lollypop?!? I would have thought they would have been too busy discussing all the ways they're gonna f*** your mhanky mob six ways from Sunday with the change of voting structure.

Oh didnae realise that lols?!? that makes you and dipsh!t "we don't need Rangers.......erm wait a minute" liewell. Can't live with us, can't live without us lolly my bhoy! Anyway the latter is irrelevant, the former applies:

THE GAME IS OVER........THE RANGERS HAVE WON!!! :-D

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What language is the post above?

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The game is not over. It's not even half-time.

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09 Mar 2012 22:23:38
David murray hang your head in shame leaving yourclub to a man like craig whyte for a pound think you might get your come uppance yet ..............by the way david ty for the best laugh ive had in a long time

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Right up there with ken dodd.

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09 Mar 2012 22:18:50
right my opinion on deal with ticketus,is this to push takeover through one less creditor, 2. i dont think id actually mind them being there but what happens if ticketus has deals with other teams, seems weird they can be part of a football club if they loan to football clubs(conflict of interest). i know i want it over with but would rather it was done the right way, lets pay our way other than newco and get owners in who care and have buisness sense.
craig+babybear

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Owners with business sense will want a newco.

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You hit the nail on the head pay your way and you will get more respect,

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09 Mar 2012 22:18:39
really want rangers to stay in spl cos the of games are so good to be at . having said that really enjoying seeing you lot suffering lololololol

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They would not be in this mess if they paid there dues other clubs are suffering because they wont pay b

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09 Mar 2012 22:07:59
Just a few wee questions...
Read that Paul Murray and Ticketus
going to make a bid, is this not the
self same person who was on the
rowing club's board during all the
EBT's? would he not be banned from
serving on board of the rowing club
and are SPL looking to see if he is
"fit and proper"?
Also Ticketus are just trying to protect their
own monies, and one last wee question
how can anybody make a cash offer
when nobody knows how much is
needed as big tax case not issued its
findings yet... methinks some more
fairy tales coming out of the rowing
club..... Timalloy

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You can't talk about taxman anymore timalloy so now you want a POP at a guy trying to take over the gers, why don't you just go away and talk about your own club, your on the verge of a treble and all you do is talk about rangers, one word for you timalloy PATHETIC.

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Nervous Timalloy?

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Uve got some good points mate But worry aboot ur own mob

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Actually it's a quadruple. the three cups and the gers misery as a bonus. thats why.

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09 Mar 2012 22:03:18
CW buys the club and it's losing over £1m a month. He Doesn't sell Jelavic last summer but increases the wages of several of the clubs best players....players now agree a cut in wages. Has the cut in wages just put them back on the money they were originally getting? Or maybe just resulted in a smaller % drop of their original contract.
What was mcgregor on before he signed a new contract and what's was the money on the new contract?
This is looking more and more like a massive confidence trick to me....Discuss.
Don74

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And your point is what?

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Point? Did the word discuss confuse you?
Or don't you understand what a confidence trick is?

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I think trick was the sticking point haha

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09 Mar 2012 22:03:09
One bit of positive news for us and the timmy's are all over our pages s**tting themselves. We are nowhere near out of the woods but already the paranoia is ripping out of them!!!

If we get ourself out of this I can't be arsed with all their greetin!!

The Pilot!

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Just hope we can pay a good bit of our debt pilot because we will never here the end of that,it will be their new "67 "
PaulRFC

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Oh yeah Pontius really s**ttin ourselves that we're headin for the treble this year and by the look of things winning everything for years to come......Stevie

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Best post so far
craig+babybear

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Why would any1 be s';[tting themselves except rangers?

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A your newco will be your new, well, newco.

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I hope i never get 'good news' like rangers have had this year. you know the old one about waking up in hospital to be told that theres bad and good news ? bad news : you've lost both legs. good news : the guy in the next bed wants to buy your shoes.
its so true!

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09 Mar 2012 21:45:13
(Ed- Any truth in this Philip Anschutz bidding for Rangers?) A lot seem to be mentioning his name today, as one of the interested parties in buying Rangers. {Ed001's Note - 002 is trying to find out for us who is involved. If there is any truth I would expect her to find out for you. She was superb during the Liverpool takeover, this is her area of expertise, though I wouldn't like to ask how she gets her info!! ;o)}

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Hmm I'd like to ask her. ;)
PaulRFC {Ed001's Note - you might find her beard a bit scratchy....}

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09 Mar 2012 21:25:02
Just been looking on the dhims rumours page and there's a lot of bitterness their. Sour grape flavour ice cream me thinks...W.A.T.P...billy the bear

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What do we have to be bitter about haha we will celebrate at the least a doublethis year while u seemto be celebrating ur idols taking wage cuts then likely walking away for nowt in the summer and ur club being still in a perilous position i know which id rather be celebrating... get real

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Oh silly billy.you are gonna look like such a fool when this unravels.what was the clauses in the players contracts to make them change their minds? have a guess

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Bitterness no WE PAY AS WE GO b

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Well done billy the bear, 3 bites with no bait, great fishing mate

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Cheers m8 W.A.T.P.....billy the bear...

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09 Mar 2012 21:20:49
im reading that its all over and the mighty gers are gonna be champions again next year celtic were gonna win the league this year admin or not use all know tht correct me if im wrong but it was 10 points deducted use could get thosepoints back and be a mile behind still now.. next season at best ur squad will stay as it is more likely its gonna be a lot weaker so it will obviously be a 1 horse race next year and for the forseeable.. so id advise like most to be happy theres a glimmer of hope but be realistic cause rubbish like champs next year will come back to haunt u

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09 Mar 2012 21:12:54
STV reporting that Misha Sher, the London based Rangers Director of global partnerships for USA and Asia has been made redundant.

This is incredulous given we are being led to believe by D&P that offers from USA and Asia are coming in for the club. To let go the Asia and USA business director/ expert is illogical.

Are there really bids from these continents for Rangers? Press believe if u think do!

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Smell the set up

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And who said offers have came in for the USA and Asia.
The media

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Misha mer?london based? come on get a grip here ... surely as wee syhte opened this london office not too long ago and admins have closed the office in last week its of no real loss? a might be way off the mark with these comments but i have never heard of misha mer or his connection with Rangers but if he has anything to do with whyte then good riddance

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Wouldnt be illogical if he was high up the payroll, plus im sure the people talking /thinking about takeover have plenty of contacts abroad.
craig+babybear

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Well spotted. that and more cash out the door

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09 Mar 2012 21:01:33
can anyone tell me if the takeover happens soon we will b able to play in europe next season.

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You need to pay the peepelllll you owe money to first b

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Only if all the accounts are in order, but the chances of getting them off whytes reps and making everything above board with debts etc in time for end of the month is very slim. We can live in hope.
Long live RFC

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Cant see it mate, got to be clear of admin before 31st march. time to rebuild a young squad next year and lets start doing it the right way.
craig+babybear

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You need Craig Whyte to sell the club
or have you forgot he owns it lock stock and barrel

oh yes he does own it

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Whyte will be removed and the club will be sold without him.

GDog
WATP

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09 Mar 2012 20:51:06
Dunno about anyone else but I am really not keen on this blue knights idea now that it's confirmed that this ticketus group are part of the consortium! Sounds fishy n dodgy if ye ask me!

Rossi

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White knights, blue knights, barron knights they still wont pay the money owed if there is a way to swindle thats the road you will go THE MIGHTY TAX DODGERS b

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Dont think the adminstrators will allow that to happen and paul murray got rangers at heart.

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Why would Paul Murray include ticketus in his consortium? They will (quite rightly) want their £24m back...but it doesnt make sense for Paul Murray to include them when he doesnt have to...and if the big tax bill hits then what?

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He had them at heart under david murray but we now know everything wasnt legal or ethical during that spell

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09 Mar 2012 20:50:54
now they have taken paycuts lets get behind the team

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Been as well taking haircuts,makes no difference.

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The pay cut only secures D&P get paid but what has it saved the club if they have to save 1 mill a month and there wages are 1 mill a month do your own maths how is the club better off b

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Looks like somebody's jelly and ice cream has disagreed with him. ger1952

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09 Mar 2012 20:43:56
Super ally should phone steven spielberg cos if we pull through this, it could be a box office hit lol, just picture it, film starts from the very beginning ( not the film btw lol ) as in the start of our great team, then goes through all the important points i.e bill struth, european cup BARCELONA 1972, then the gazza and albertz era ( beginning of the problems ) maybe cut out the uefa cup final or maybe not, then the present day ie administration and so on, then the BIG finish, back to the brilliant but legal ways lol......... end credits with follow follow playing haha, stewie

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Or how about start with your riot in Barcelona in 72, while Celtic were doing nine in a row, then move onto your baron years between 79-85 when you won sweet FA, then onto the years you were spending outwith your means and winning tainted titles, then finish it off with the riot in Manchester then the admin story TBC..........Stevie

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Your being unfair stevie. you forgot to credit the fairs cup riot in newcastle.

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09 Mar 2012 20:40:02
Good news today about the players wages which will keeps us going till the end of season.

But lets air in the side of caution, we're out the woods just yet, lets not get carried away, we've still got many battles to fight.

Don't fall for the media hype, the media have lied in the past. It was only yesterday that everyone was having a go at Duff & Phelps.


Das Shadow

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AIR on the side of caution? really?

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Agree i think we are gettin carried away a wee bit, lets just see what the next couple of weeks bring... mind you saying that i feel a lot better than i did yesterday.
craig+babybear

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Thanks for noticing.

Das Shadow

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'But lets air in the side of caution, we're out the woods just yet, lets not get carried away, we've still got many battles to fight.'

wow. 4 in one sentence and one misunderstood.

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09 Mar 2012 20:34:47
Paul Murray's Blue Knights consortium are putting the finishing touches on a bid for Glasgow Rangers FC.This proposed bid will include supporters groups and Ticketus. Personally i hope this sparks somekind of bidding war for the club, as i dont belive that the blue knights takeover bid will provide the vast investment, and sustained investment that the club needs. Although i do believe we need rangers minded people at the helm, ultimatelyit will come down to the colour of money. Feel free to share your thoughts and opinions.

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Thought they wanted to buy Rangers? Seems they want to buy another club with a different name...

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I agree, I don't think that plan would raise enough investment, I would quite like Brian Kennedy sales sharks owner, worth around 400m. random bid from someone from abroad with outrageous money could happen but unlikely. The issue I have with kennedy is that he wants to own it 100%, no consortium or fan ownership model. Should be a very interesting few weeks!

J

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09 Mar 2012 20:32:06
Just sayin here btw, all the cheeky tic fans are the deluded ones i think, tbh and IMO if they heard this news if celtic were in this state they would be on their knees blessing themselves lol admit guys you would. btw ed not makin it a cheeky point just a bit of banter lol, stewie

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The funny thing is Celtic isn't, yet yous keep saying what if Celtic this and that...you really need to get your own club together before yous say anything, still lots of problems for yous.
I heard rankers just founda tenner, yous can celebrate now that your saved and going to be champions tmr and next season...not outa the woods yet..little banter

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Ha....... that is all, stewie

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09 Mar 2012 20:31:32
rangers have sent out a clear message to all the clubs in the spl and in financial difficulty,if your club cant finish at least 10 points of second place then keep your tax money and go into admin, if it works for rangers it will work or your club b

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Eh, they are still going to have to pay the PAYE money and are trying to strike a deal for the big tax case which incidentally they have not lost yet.

The Pilot!!

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Sounds like someones upset.have some jelly and ice cream.lol
drumlad

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HMRC will not strike deals after having fingers burned with Vodafone etc.

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Pilot, why would someone be trying to strike a deal with HMRC over a case they haven't lost yet?

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The case has not been decided yet and could go either way so it may be in the interest of both parties to come to some sort of "deal". HMRC can still refuse this but if they lose the case do they pursue it or not and has the costs been worth it?

The same goes for most car insurance injury claims, a settlement is agreed before it goes to court to save costs on both sides.

The Pilot!

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09 Mar 2012 20:24:50
I'm trying to work out if Ticketus potentially being in with P.Murray is good or bad for the club.

Could it be that P.Murray has offered them a % of shares which they can sell during a share issue with the guarantee that they get their £24.4m back? Any shortfall will need to be made up by the new owners.

This would mean that the new owners (with a £20m investment/outlay) would deal with the £15m PAYE debt and try to negotiate a deal with HMRC to pay off the big tax case. If this was to be agreed then it would mean that Ticketus would not be contesting the £3.6m at the high court and they would also be on the side of the club against C.Whyte hopefully strengthening our case.

If we can get these matters settled then we sell the assets in the summer, reduce the wage bill, have income from season ticket sales and try to introduce new sponsors/contracts to the club to enhance revenue with the knowledge that we are now running within our means.

Finally we have the share issue allowing the fans to buy up the Ticketus shares so they can move on and the fans would then have a large % of the shares with Ticketus having recovered their money.

Don't know if its pie in the sky or I'm missing something but it could be a way out for the club & Ticketus without anymore drastic measures.

All involves how reliable the information that the administrators can legally force C.Whyte to give up his shares is.

The Pilot!

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09 Mar 2012 20:14:42
Paul Murray is finalising a deal for the club does any one no his personal wealth??

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He is double the billionaire Craig Whyte is, he's got £2.

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Not sure mate but he has a good reputation with the german banks and he helped halve our debt before.. wealth im not sure but thats why parks etc been mentioned because thats where the money is.
craig+babybear

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So its not goodbye its auf wiedersehen.

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09 Mar 2012 19:57:18
I posted 3 weeks ago that Whyte was a patsy, paid by Murray to take the flak and the gets would be bought, with little debt and champs again next year.

Following the better news last night and today I would say I was on track! Good times back from next season!

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What a load of rubbish u just been let out the loony bin ??

TB

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We're not out the woods yet

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You clearly don't realise the difficulties Rangers are in.

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Ur seriously celebrating ur players havin to take wage cuts cause of the state of ur club lol carry on we will celebrate a treble but whatever makes u happy

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So if match with celtic goes ahead. rangers fans may be paying twice, wearing newly bought black and white scarves ( h, someone else getting on the gravy train) to watch players who would never have agreed to be there for what they are getting. i'm starting to think this rangers thing is worth getting into. you'll pay anything. just get black scarves the red faces will match.

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09 Mar 2012 19:53:29
I am quite concerned by an answer given by the administrator in this evening's press conference, bearing in mind these guys are professionsals about being protective with information and very guarded in what they say.

He was asked whether Rangers would fulfill their remaining fixtures this season.

He replied that if the club were in administration they would.

I initially though that he was aluding that the club may be bought over before the end of the season and because they would be out of administration he was giving this answer.

However, if he was confident that the club would either remain in administration until the end of the season or be bought over before the end of the season, his answer should have been a straight forward "yes".

To say that if the club were in administration they would fuldill their fixtures, raises the serious question that he does believe that liquidation is still a serious possibility before the end of the season and he was giving this answer to cover his back.

It was also revealling that at the beginning of the press conference the words perilous condition were used to describe the clubs financial position.

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Don't think the Administrator can rule out the L word.
The short term future to the end of the season looks secure and certainly a lot better than the open discussions about the L word.
There is still the unknown of the HMRC case, spl findings etc and the creditor situ.
Nobody really knows what the next few weeks will bring or even nxt week. So I think the Admin bloke is only doing his job with that part of the statement. - but with the players actions and takeover (s) being welcomed things look better, what do you think ED? {Ed001's Note - he has to be careful what he says, giving anything away could cause issues.}

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You couldn't hear what he was saying for the press snarling every time he mentioned something positive about the club,he wasn't giving them the bad news that they craved, sad sorry lot.

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Thanks Ed {Ed001's Note - you will never get a full answer out of an administrator, saying the wrong thing could cause mayhem. It could destroy confidence in the company or give a false idea that it is all sorted and employees become less keen to take pay cuts etc.}

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09 Mar 2012 19:49:21
our name has been dragged through the mud for thr last few months - perhaps rightly so - but today has given us a glimmer of hope - the tables seem to be turning

ryanrfc

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Yes it has changed you wont be called rangers any more in the eyes of football you will be called THE MIGHTY TAX DODGERS b

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Hillarious mate ur in the wrong job

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As long as we are Mighty, I don't really care what people call us. Been called alot worse!

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Tax dodgers ,not the fans you idiot the owner. Toon fan here ,just wanna wish you guys the best of luck and hope you survive this nightmare .KT

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Celtic must have been gutted when electronic turnstiles were made mandatory. Selective memory dictates all you tax paying upstanding football supporters must have forgotten the crush in auld Parkhead . It was alleged as many as 20,000 might have been omitted from actual gate at big matches. indeed it was widely regarded as a jolly jape by the journos of that time who used to run a raffle as to who would be closest to the official attendance. Maybe Hector needs to look back in time at video footage to see the carnage as supporters ended up on the track, i know i was there many times although it usually happened when THE GERS came to town. Thankfully you were able to embrace technology and i hope your turnstiles now return accurate figures. Bearing in mind Mr Lawwells position in running Scottish football and his demand for sporting integrity i would presume we can move on and let football be the chosen topic to entertain us all.

Highland Bear.

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Cheers KT

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Thats why you lot got into this mess as long as you are MIGHTY you care,dont pay any one as long as we are MIGHTY every one else is to blame cos we are MIGHTY PAY AS YOU GO b

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09 Mar 2012 19:48:17
Glad the players took the cuts ..Although still no wiser whT is going to happen with tne club..I did not like the bit were he said still not in any position to go to any creditors.. If only this big tax case was known ..I see also ticetus making a few statements that they are still to get their money..did anyone hear speirs going on about Paul Murray..saying he would not buy the club two years ago because of the big tax case.so he is saying he is bluffing .just wish this thing was all over

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Paul Murray is positioning himself to buy the club as part of a consortium after liquidation. Murray is just bullsh1tting when he says he wants to buy the club out if adminsitration.

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Speirs I would listen to Gerry Adams before I would listen to him. GA tells less lies !

barra1591

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Really...

For real tho...

Ben & Lad

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09 Mar 2012 19:47:25
So the big earners have taken a 'pay cut'
good for them but what about the ONLY player with guts Young Greg Wilde,he is the only one to be left with credibility,thoseBig Earners wont Lose a thing I bet

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Dont talk rubbish what u want whittaker mcgregor an davis to walk out on club
u really that stupid ??


TB

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Lmao.they will in summer ya clown

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09 Mar 2012 19:41:32
Great news today bears well done the players they will be remembered for saving the club today.I also see someone buying the club i don't care who it is as long as they have plenty of cash to blow Celtic out the water and leave them in the wilderness for years although we would probably do that with current squad
bears.i hear that some players have clauses included like if Craig whyte regains controll of the club they can leave,contract void we have no fear of this as the sleekit wee creep won't be allowed anywhere near our great club.

WE ARE THE PEOPLE

JACKO

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Yes you will get money to blow celtic out the water but your club will always keep its new name THE MIGHTY TAX DODGERS b

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Whacko Jacko back again with his ludicrous posts........Stevie

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You would probably do that with the current squad? What happened this season?

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Has b got a chip on his shoulder or a Stutter

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Enough money to blow celtic out the water. Just like david murray did. U fool, u cant outspend because this is where it gets u.

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09 Mar 2012 19:25:59
Rangers will be back like the bionic man better,faster and stronger. so let wee lenny win his tainted league and think there great , so make sure you all enjoy yourselfs cause it will soon be squeaky bum time .

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And the hubris continues. rangers have their least able manager in a generation. club hero , yes but top flight manager no. interesting that naismith has taken a wage cut given that he's being paid by insurance, cant work that one out or is he fit again now ? i think the facts are that as a player you have to take the wage cut or go. if you go you might find it hard to get a similar job for a while. so how long do these wage cuts last ? given that they were on win bonuses, league leadership bonuses etc. which have already gone, just how much is being saved here in reality? to save £1M a month mean 30 individuals dropping £33k per month. dont get it.

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Think you might find that the bionic man was not a real person,a figment of someones imagination,so wakey wakey,hilarious,keep it up

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09 Mar 2012 19:23:40
Press conference from administrators, confirm a large number of players took a 75% cut and others took cuts between 25-50%. All in place until end of season. Remaining games will be fulfilled and no job losses across the board. Deadline set for next week for interested parties to show their hands

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I think you will find the picture has changed mate.no playing staff cuts and minimal staff cuts. wishart on clyde.

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Are they allowed to take their gloves of?

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09 Mar 2012 19:22:17
Celtic fan in peace. Glad tht you seem to be coming out of the worst of things. Good on the players. I think that Celtic and Rangers should unite as the other ten gems and there secret meetings are just a bit ridiculous. They want more f the tv money. Without the old firm there will be no tv money. We shoud be united for ths, if nothing else.

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Thanks for your comments. However the posts on here over the last period have included the fact that CFC dont need RFC. CFC dont need anyone cos you've done it all by yourselves. They also dont need the TV money, it's about 2% of your income.
Your very argument of without the OF then no TV, resulted in being shot down by many CFC fans on here.
At the moment RFC still have a long way to go, but things got brighter today.

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Why are u getting this guy has he came on an gloated u give gers fans a bad name


TB

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Were the rfc fans not doing the same? you guys have been saying f the spl/sfa and all the teams and you should leave cause you better and with out yous its nothing...sounds like you need to get your head out of the sand, dont think your out of the woods yet and dont start saying how your back cause you should think of Karma and the beating on the 25th not that you can finish maybe.. even the lowest clubs can complete thier games, so why so much trouble for yous?

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09 Mar 2012 19:21:53
If we do survive maybe next season we can get back to talking about football, last season it was all about referees cheating Celtic and this season it is rangers cheating the taxman, maybe just maybe we could have a football talk season, cause I'm sick of all this football is meant to be about getting together with your mates on a sat and getting a few beers.

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Most mates dont cheat and if they did wouldnt you not play with them until the play fairly...well until your club/fans change for the better for fair play maybe then football can take centre stage.

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09 Mar 2012 19:20:28
After watching the press conference I have to say I am delighted this administration team are in place. They have managed to keep a value to Rangers and not destroy our club with sweeping cuts.

We will survive and I have to say they have so far been fundamental in our club not going into free fall.

GDog
WATP

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But they have added more debt with the players cuts payable at the end of the season

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Yes sure they are GREAT they have to save a million a month till the end of the season and help the club but they charge 1 million a month so remind me what is the club saving got white written all over it b

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Quick turnarond there, first they were scum now u are pleased they r here.

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I think you will find I have never had any opinion on the administrators.

GDog
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09 Mar 2012 19:10:50
should rangers supporters really trust administrators remember craig whyte arranged them to come in

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If he didnt pint them - hmrc would have and we would have really been up sh1t creak. I think these guys have done a great job so far - albeit a long during the player talks.

ryanrfc

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No really all that is happened today is the players taking the cuts which should have happened weeks ago..watched the conference there .nothing much to say .

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Rangers are finished, theres no way back for them so stop kidding yourself,need to come out of this denial.

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09 Mar 2012 19:10:25
A great deal of pride has returned tonight. ALL the players have stepped up to the plate. ALL the rumours about players not obliging has been total nonsense as per usual. Every player has shown their true colours and not only have they delivered titles against adversity but now they have been the major foundation in saving our great club.

This Team are immense in more ways than one.

TODAY ONCE AGAIN I AM PROUD TO BE A GER.

GDog
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I well done yous are still going burst so we will still be having a party when rangers die.Henke7

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But Not for long GDog. Liquidation to follow within next few months.

Bye, bye Rangers.

But hey, enjoy it while it lasts.

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The team may not get any medals this season on the pitch but off it they deserve one and much much more mate.

james rfc 1980

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I'll second that !
PaulRFC

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Agree totally, they are now legends. Hopefully in 140 years they will still be singing songs about them.

Dannager4life

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All the players have done is stick money in the bank till the season ends.

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Legends lmao dont know how they'll survive on £30,000 a month........get real.....Stevie

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They had to take the cuts or D&P would have blamed them for the club being liquidated.SIMPLE

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Get off your high horses they could have walked and got contracts else where the boys stopped massive cuts in all staff - at least we still have a team to support, even if you grudge what they earn. Do you cheer when they score, probably bot just moan that they should be doing it more no doubt.

Dannager4life

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Agreeing to 75%pay cut tells it all footballers wages far to high

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09 Mar 2012 18:40:36
BBC Scotland Sports online reporting several players still to sign up.

Actually D&P playing a blinder. Players threatened not to take wage drops, administrators went public threatened liquidation in days/ quick sale quoting players. Players caved in.

D&P getting several mOnths now at Ibrox.

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D&p say there job it to cut 1 million a month,the players take a big hit on wages so the club can save i million a month then guess what there charges are a month yes you guessed 1million so how dose that help the club b

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Apparently the Administrators dont get paid until the Admin process is ended. Admin cant approve their own payment. They present a figure at the end of the Admin to the creditors for either approval or to be negotiated.

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09 Mar 2012 18:39:22
Why can't we have a few open training days at 5 pound a person?

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I could be doin wi brushin up my shootin skills

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Some of us might end up getting a game...
craig+babybear

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09 Mar 2012 18:34:15
mark timy guidi on radio saying that despite many people interested in buying rangers, he says that rangers will still go into liquidation. this guy has nothing nice to say about the gers.

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You want him to make something nice up?

Joeshmo1888

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He is telling the truth. What do you want him to do, lie and tell you what you want to hear.

Any businessman wil not buy Rangers out of administration, they will start up a newco after liquidation.

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No chance of liquidation, players have saved the club from that by agreeing deals that will buy time for new owners to come in. Hopefully some agreement came be made regarding the tax cases (i would like us to honour as much of it as possible) that would allow the new owners whoever they will be to work within a budget keeping us competative.

Dannager4life

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Heres a good one now rangers will survivethe season out maybe they will win the league haha

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You still need the creditors to agree to a cva or you will be liquidated.

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He is a bitter celtic fan i worked at same place as his family member, just disregard what he spouts as he and many others in the second rate media have no access or connections to Rangers so just make it up to make a name for themselves.

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Not this season, next!!

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I hate to agree with the guy .but still don't see anyone buying club until the outcome of the big tax case .I was reading an article that the biggest witness for HMRC is
The main person from abroad that dealt with these payments

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Buy a buisness that is A;heavily in debt. B;could face a very large tax bill. C;has to make payments worth hundreds of thousands to players for taking wage cuts. D;might not have a stadium to play in(litigation may take years). they must be lining up for this one in a million chance!

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09 Mar 2012 18:31:11
Thanks to the players you will not be forgotten now let's see the fans step up and show the same commitment we need the cash

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09 Mar 2012 18:27:03
Mr Shar of global partnerships has lost his job today .He was trying to promote the rangers brand in America and asia

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What a great job he done eh?

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09 Mar 2012 18:22:10
No job losses - great news.

However, nothing else has changed.

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09 Mar 2012 18:12:13
Have to say obviously as tim in banter over your bad times,i have to take my hat off and applaud players for taking a wage cut,the so called worlds best footballers wouldent do that,fair play to them

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Cheers m8 good post.

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09 Mar 2012 18:07:55
Celtic fan here would just like to say well done on keeping the staff at Ibrox,good news indeed,just dont understand how Whitaker and Naismith taking a 75% pay cut helps anyone, i would have thought their insurance companies would be paying their wages as their injured anyway(maybe wrong)MACCA

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Agree mate im a bit lost on that one aswell. unless insurance goes because of admin..
craig+babybear

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09 Mar 2012 17:47:19
Lets be honest the cause of Rangers dreadful financial plight was David Murray's obsession with emulating the European cup success of Celtic. No matter what the outcome of the current situation surely rangers fans realise they will never be able to achieve this feat and win the big cup

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Also, before Murray took over at Rangers, between 1965 and 1986, a period fo 21 years, Rangers only won the league on 3 occassions. Celtic won it 14 times.

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Cant win the big cup no but Rangers & Celtic both know the Uefa cup Or Europa League is not a pipe dream! Champions league is all about the money for the old firm but usually enjoyable win lose or draw i just cant see Rangers making it to Europe for a few seasons now so good luck to Celtic and whoever the other Scottish teams might be hopefufully get the co-efficient up because Scottish Football
Has been on its arse for a number of years now and Rangers seem to only be making it worse right now. Lets hope the mess gets sorted out and we can see both top teams in Scotland fighting it out on the European stage again one day!
Larky Bear

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Well said Larky Bear,a sensible post at last take a bow mate.

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The bottom line is, as long as we beat Celtic and given we are the most successful team in the world we have achieved this... Despite the negative press, I can start to see our foes getting worried...the ice cream is melting, the jelly is starting to wobble, it's life, the strongest always comes through!

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Doesn't jelly always wobble?

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"the strongest always comes through" your right and that is Celtic, tainted titles dont make you most successful just a realy bad name. it is not negative press it is reality and fact, the sooner you wake up and stop thinking about beating Celtic your club could change. Celtic is not worried at all we will be making millions and winnig trophies while you fight to stay around. in hind sight you would be better off leaving cause you will lose all your hair from the party year after year as you watch

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09 Mar 2012 17:38:26
I would just like to thank Duff & Phelps for ensuring the party on the 25th will take place after all i stood to lose my deposit on my party outfit if the fixture didn't go ahead....Thanks again...Stevie

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Nay probs Stevie whatever ur wearing im sure your gonna look like a right person and greetin when we hump you as well. WRTP ;) Lee the Bear

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Yep i will look a right ......... can't deny that, but could be worse i could be a supporter of Administration FC that day....... Stevie

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09 Mar 2012 17:26:12
better news for u all todaybut i dont think ur out of the woods as some posts would suggest a bit of time bought perhaps... hopefully more good news to come for use and maybe we will have to put the jelly and ice cream on ice for a while lol

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09 Mar 2012 17:22:06
The futures bright, the future is once again....

WATP!!

CC

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How can the future be bright? It's all still ifs, buts and maybes' as far as a takeover, the big tax case, the Ticketus issue, the £3.6m etc. What happens at the end of the season regarding the wage cuts? Rangers were losing £1m a month so what happens next season if the club survives? Cuts will have to be made as no new owner will be willing to make that up each month.

It's by no means over yet.

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Ticketus issue? they might be part owners.

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09 Mar 2012 17:21:56
There will be no pay offs at ibrox due to the players taking pay cut

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09 Mar 2012 17:19:44
Looks like things are headin back up bears hopefully more positive news in the comin weeks, FINGERS CROSSED (LOYAL BEAR)

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09 Mar 2012 17:18:51
Evening bears good news for a Change no job cuts good to see some improvement hopefully it be back to norm take long time to get over this soon as mr s**t is out the better let's not for get ally he has played a blinder the last few weeks gee Him time am sure he will be a winner am glad he is in our corner not be long till we see that smille on your face again ally ... Kenny bluenose

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09 Mar 2012 17:11:46
truth emerged in the latter weeks of his disastrous reign, but Whyte could find himself having to answer to Ticketus himself.

It is believed the deal is close to unravelling and, although it is still subject to court process, the administrators believe that Ticketus will no longer have a claim on up to 100,000 season tickets.

They will then pursue Whyte for that cash.

Source Evening Times

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09 Mar 2012 17:05:55
mcgregor,davis,whittaker,and naismith show how much they want help the rangers, lets see how many more take the cuts. any news on the takeover anyone.

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Is that why it took them a week?

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Yup craig whyte bought rangers about a year ago.

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FFS they have done it give them a break, there talking about there jobs and trying to secure Rangers future and look after themselves at the same time. You don't know what these players have interests in outside football or what there financial outgoings are.

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09 Mar 2012 16:46:24
Just read this on the Daily Records website

"Ticketus emerge as shock backers behind Paul Murray's bid to buy Ibrox club"

WTF IS GOING ON!!!

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09 Mar 2012 16:42:31
well done to all players and backroom staff for your comitment to the beloved gers you will not be forgotton simply the best

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Oh we will see.if what i have heard is true they are hardly heroes.

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Would u rather take a 75% wage cut or be made redundant?hardly heroic actions from overpaid superstars.

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09 Mar 2012 16:34:36
fellow Bears, why don`t you try some fishing for dhim tims. If its immature sprats with big mouths can I suggest you use debt free as bait. If you are of a more adventurous type can I suggest you try a newco, seems to be effective. For you big game hunters it has to be England, tainted titles, the reality behind schadenfreude or the surefire catch all remaining in the SPL with no penalties. The last bait has been pretty good at hooking Timalloy, Rusty, Miko and the now frequently seen A Tim. Please if you catch a bluenose then be gentle and release it back, Good Fishing comrades and maybe we can go for catch of the week soon.

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Nice one mate.
Iam Legend

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09 Mar 2012 16:29:26
paul murray has the backing from ticketus for his blue knights takeover bid.

source. ssn.

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09 Mar 2012 16:26:53
iam embarressed to be a rangers fan right now

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Don't support them then simples. Follow follow

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Once a ger always a ger.

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Your not a rangers fan if your embarrassed don't follow us

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I am embarressed for him being a Rangers fan.

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So you shouldn't be embarrassed by the fact your club has been cheating the country out of tax?

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09 Mar 2012 16:11:49
"Chaos at Rangers should not diminish scale of Celtic's achievements"
Headline From The Guardian
Utter Utter Urine
This must Make Watty akin to Jesus Christ for his achievements over the past 3 years.
We Shall Overcome Overtake and Overwhelm

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Overcome, overtake and overwhelm......lol.Get a grip man. Glasgow Celtic, paying taxes and other clubs dues since 1888.

Joeshmo1888

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Since 1888? oh that's when you paid backhanders to hibs players to leave their charity and come and play for you lot. What was it 5 or 7 players. Hibs left in the lurch after helping your lot out on numerous occaisions.
Buying success since 1888.
Now don't forget the 'estimated attendances' scam, dodging tax since the Kelly/White (must be something in the name!) dynasty began.

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Ok guv it woz celtic wot dunnit. rangers are innocent. i'm glad you agree about success since 1888 though. as for the mad original post, listen mate, there is a warehouse in glasgow somewhere with 50,000 tophats with the number 10 on them. get one and put it on and just pretend.

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09 Mar 2012 16:01:48
If Rangers go bust, we are allowed to apply to the SPL as a new club.

The 6 man SPL board would vote either in favour or not in favour of the new club being in the SPL.

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09 Mar 2012 15:58:50
option 1 - but who wouldnt love for the messi types to grace ibrox in the royal blue - as long as they were paid for lol

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Hasnt it been messy enough at ibrox the past few weeks?

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09 Mar 2012 15:58:30
Was wondering how Celtic manage, when Rangers are making a loss of 10 million a year and they have probably roughly the same income and enough players to field 3 teams?

CWD.

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Higher turnover for one and we havent sold off all our revenue sources.

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Good financial management with top business directors. Simples.

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And one scottish cup to show in 3 r fours years and only got the title because rangers have had to sell there best players! yeah good management haha

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Yes but would Rangers have won the last three if they had been living within their means? And don't come back with the 'we were skint and spent nothing p!sh' because we all know that although you were skint, you were still spending.

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A million pound per yr from Dermott Demond since 1995.
Lennoxtown mortgaged off last year for an undisclosed sum.
Selling top players to get the cash in - McGeady about £10m - to balance the books. But there were several yrs there they were running in debt with M. O'Neils spending.

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But nowhere near the problems Rangers have been caused by overspending. For years Rangers fans have said their club is the best at everything - well we know its the best at embracing financial meltdown ;)

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Celtic make £10M per year more gate money than rangers. shock, horror. rangers havent even got the second biggest league ground in glasgow. arsenal had the same problem and so do liverpool. arsenal are stretched because of the mortgage on the new ground and are losing ground but crucially, for the future wont overspend. liverpool have been trying for years to find a way to get a bigger place ditto spurs. old trafford is a good site for expansion hence domination along with the busby era . in a competitive world it's these things which give you the edge. celtic have it. ibrox is as big as it can be. sensible observers have known for years rangers were overspending in the hope celtic's attendances would crash. the celtic brand is also superior to rangers. the 1967 EC win ,and the extraordinary manner in which it was achieved, was part of a sequence of 4 semi-final appearances which left a legacy which is now being properly exploited. david murray sought to overcome these shortcomings but obviously failed and the result is a pretty toxic brand image added to the mix. rangers are a bit like a big ugly smelly dog, if you dont love 'em now you never will.

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09 Mar 2012 15:58:03
Some spin from the administrators with no substance, and all the Rangers supporters are on the glory train again. You bears are so easily gullible. Prepare for a very big fall because your club is still heading for liquidation. Nothing has changed to alter that.

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U sound dissapointed pal hardly on glory trail we will be back so get it rite up u

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09 Mar 2012 15:57:44
If a deal is reached with taxman I think we should all wear taxman suits at the next old firm game. Ha, also think we should boycott next parkhead game.

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The same way you boycotted ibrox for most of the season?

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What the feck are you on? By percentage of capacity we fill more of our ground than you do, every week.

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By percentage of capacity blah blah blah,clutching at straws with that one lad.

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It would be great if you all stayed away
from
Paradise. Home fans would fill the stadium and there would be no damage
to our facilities

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Can say the same about you lot at Ibrox.

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09 Mar 2012 15:57:42
Just got a feeling that the tide is beginning to turn. For the first time a modicum of better news. Wouldn't it be great if smart ass whyte got landed with the £24m. That would put him in liquidation, can't get the smile off my face with that possibility. Heardfrom three different ppl that hmrc might be prepared for ten p in the pound. A bit of blue sky appearing me thinks.

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HMRC have not agreed any deal. Get a life.

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He didn't say they were, he said MIGHT, guess what mate you get a life and go back to school to learn how to read., stewie

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Well I heard from this from an ex Celtic player. Did not say they had accepted, what I said was that heard a rumour. Perhaps if you could read you would understand. Get a life and enjoy it whilst you can, number 55 is round the corner

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09 Mar 2012 15:46:54
Was thinking last night guys (Dangerous I know) about the part the transfer window has possibly played in Rangers woes.

My point being that if teams were free to buy and sell at any time them Rangers could have sold some of their playing staff to gain cash. Since they needed £4m between now and the end of the season I sure there are 1 or 2 players in our squad who reach that value?

Maybe this could be written into UEFA rules that teams as well as signing free agents, can sell players if they are in administration and buy from teams who are in administration only?

Never thought of this in the past but surely this would be a better way of helping struggling teams instead of kicking them in the teeth when they are down (points deduction/ban from Europe etc).

BigBear1873 {Ed001's Note - the transfer window system should have been scrapped years ago, all the smaller clubs struggle more because of it holding them back from selling their players while at peak value.}

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09 Mar 2012 15:44:35
I am a lifelong supporter who is now living abroad. I am frustrated that apart from my weekly six quid to rangers TV to watch the games on the internet and purchasing club merchandise, there is no other way that I can do my part the same as the guys who are turning out at Ibrox and supporting the club. I want to pay back for all the great times I have had supporting the gers and help the club in our hour of need. I am sure there are many others living or working abroad who feel the same way. Rather than making a pledge, can the rangers trust and supporters association not set up a fund where expats could give a weekly or monthly donation to the club and help out in any small way we can to keep the club going through these tough tough times.
I have posted on here before that selling the pitch to the fans the same as Chelsea did when they hit hard times a few years ago would be a good way to raise cash with the fans receiving a share of the pitch in return.

JG

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09 Mar 2012 15:43:34
BREAKING NEWS!!!, the samaritans phonelines are in meltdown!!.all the calls seem to be coming from the east end off glasgow!..also tesco in the east end have had a spate off people trying to return tubs off ice cream and packets off jelly!..W.A.T.P...billy the bear...

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Billy you are setting yourself up for a MASSIVE fall.

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BREAKING NEWS!!still in administration,still millions in debt,still no new owner,still pumped out of 4 cups,still miles behind in the league,still rattling cans for cash....sorry if ive missed anything out but my ice cream came flying out my mouth and landed on my laptop when i read your post,rolf

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Dont speak too soon ..you are basing that on what..once again you believe what you want to..taking your head out of the sand for just a short time eh?

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Oh, silly billy bear.it,s gonna hit you hard when the facts are revealed about your players deals. as of now?why the happiness? A Tim.

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All of the above comments prove your comments as true,bravo

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09 Mar 2012 15:36:46
Uefa Cheif states no Euro Extension for Rangers, Rangers have until March 31 to secure a licence to play in Europe next year, something the administrator admits is a very unlikely prospect, but they will appeal to the Scottish FA for an extended deadline. UEFA events chief executive David Taylor, however, said: "They have to make the deadline. There will be no extensions.

"It's a great shame that such a major football club and a major Scottish institution is in such disarray at the moment.

"A club that has that massive level of support shouldn't be in the financial position that it's in just now."

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09 Mar 2012 15:35:28
Should be fun listening to the latest conspiracy theories to come from our friends from the east side of the city.

heard the ice cream and jelly is off the menu now.

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Never off the menu.see you on the 25th for the party. A Tim.

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09 Mar 2012 15:33:51
Timalloy were is your daily tax joke today? Ha.

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I think the ice cream has melted and the jelly has failed to set. All seems very quiet from the green and grey mhanks!!

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Would not count your chickens yet, but if the HMRC do some kind of deal it won’t erase the shame and embarrassment any right minded person would feel about what is in effect theft

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Lets not get to far of ourselves just yet.

Das Shadow

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@Das Shadow;common sense post again. A Tim.

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Timalloy were are you? Ha.

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Cheers A Tim

Das Shadow

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09 Mar 2012 15:28:18
All hmrc want is to win this case to take them to the "bigger" players in EBT,s. I.e premiers teams and oil industry execs.they Will settle on a reduced settlement as this is in the best interests of both partys.they are not in the interest of outing company's out of business and walking away with nothing when liquidation arrives.we will not hear the figure involved on settlements.just that a fee has been agreed.

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They have to publish the settlement as they are a public body.

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09 Mar 2012 15:16:09
Why not use Ibrox for public floggings & beatings just like Saddam Hussein used to do with his football stadium?

It's on a first come first served pay at the gate basis and the the first people on show will be Craig Whyte & SDM.

I bet we will never have money worries again!!

The Pilot!

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£10 for a box of rotten veg to throw at the b**tards, bang goes the debt in one afternoon, might remortgage the house for extra boxes, like your thinking pilot

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09 Mar 2012 15:13:56
listen up peepil........the crisis is over. Cost cuts agreed, takeover soon to be agreed, SPL begging us to stay. Champions next year without any doubt.

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The sad thing is, you probably believe this.

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You forgot to mention the mountain of debt that still remains.....third division champions?

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Thanks for that post lmao

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Jesus man would u wake up. You have no chance even being able to take part in a sunday league than be champions Lmfao ostrich united

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Cheers mate was beginning to worry over past three weeks... lets take one day at a time.craig+babybear

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Typical tims eh well guess what ghirls, paul clark said and the paper said ( i know) HMRC will only do a deal with us if craig whyte is out and guess what? he WILL be out cos he doesn't get money off us and he's not even a preffered creditor. BOOOOM......... oh a wee bubble in the jelly just exploded haha!, stewie

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09 Mar 2012 15:08:41
craig whyte hang your head in sham
e, your greed has been found out,
your no rangers supporter your a low
life.

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Wow.thats gotta hurt him!

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So he is a rangers supporter then?

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09 Mar 2012 14:45:46
I was one of the supporters that didnt want the stadiums name sponsored out,,but oh how the last few weeks have changed my opinion,,sell the name to whatever you want as long as we survive,TRUEBLUE

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Depends on who eventually owns the stadium though.

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09 Mar 2012 14:43:24
Maybe just me guys but anybody think charlie nickerless maybe be a bit of a hypocryte? what he said in the paper is basketballs!, am sure if it was celtic that was in our shoes he would fight the sfa to keep celtic in the spl!, stewie

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Even celtic fans think Charlie is a plonker.

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How did you manage to understand that ned

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Maybe but they are not lololololol

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A read 1 sentence and automatically said d**kkkkkk lol, stewie

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09 Mar 2012 14:41:16
FFS will you listen to yourselves. Maybe I am missing the point here but just exactly what has changed? The administrators have stopped some overheads and maybe just maybe rangers will make it to the end of the season. But what then? Hmrc have stated categorically they won't do a deal, they were offered 10 million I believe. Cw owns rangers and he will NOT walk away. Ticketus own the season tickets that's nailed on. The Spl sfa ans eufa are investigating yet everyone is on here like its 10 on a row. So am I missing the point or something. P.s do you really believe that an investor will part with 100 million just to have no profit and by the way you have very few decent pkaywrs......puzzled

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Getting worried, you should be, number fifty five is round the corner. Enjoy it while you can.

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Another wee Dhim getting all worked up.is your wee dream evaporating.Now can you tell us what pkaywrs is that's puzzling

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09 Mar 2012 14:24:31
Wait .hold the press! latest news from murray park is......they are close to agreeing the cuts with players! i thought it was done and dusted? surely media house(look them up) are not spinning feelgood tales? naw,. A Tim

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09 Mar 2012 14:23:57
Go outside bears, sniff the air, the smell is timmys fear, they are running scared we return stronger with no debt.

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Dream on you sap.perhaps you might explain how?

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So who`s paying the debt then??

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, stronger and debt free, ! NO one wanted to invest anything in rankers 10 months ago now you think someone will sink 100m into rankers without even touching cost of the shares, investment into squad. You sir, have truely lost it.

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I would temper your celebration, these agreements today are only to keep the club operating, if your interested take a look at the rangers tax case site for the latest post, this guy has done an amazing job and very rarely says something that has not happened. He talks about the barriers to a blue knight rescue, as well as other revelant factors. Better journo than the so called real journos.

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Lol you don't even need to bait the hook to catch the fuds. You really do show your fear by your response pmsl.

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09 Mar 2012 14:03:58
The proof of why Scotland need BOTH old firm strong will come when motherwell or whoever finishes the highest and gets our champions league place,then we will see what the next best can do for our standings.
PaulRFC

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I agree Paul we do need two strong old firm teams, but we need the oyher teams stronger as well to provide competiton to the big two, hence I would give a bigger share of the tv money.

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Paul RFC - and how did the mighty Rangers do in two European competitions this season?

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When rangers win 9 in a row Celtic weren't strong.

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The clubs who appear most on the box and generate the interest or viewing figures the tv companys pay for should take the biggest slice of the pie otherwise all clubs should be allowed to negotiate their own deals.All clubs outwith the old firm would not take this though as the big 2 would basically be the only clubs benifitting as their brand is the most appealing and the revenues they could create would make them even more dominant.

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How have the mighty Celtic done in the last few year? An no doubt you'll embarrass yourself next time round aswell
PaulRFC

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My DADS bigger than yours FFS guys lol

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@Paul rfc;lets see how you do in europe this year...oh thats right...sorry. A Tim.

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09 Mar 2012 14:00:35
Just seen three statements from ticetus Saying that they are more than confident that they get their money .they are covered as the clubs stands just now .Or if the become a newco club

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If you owed me 24m I would say that also

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Not just one statement, but THREE!

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Your source?

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The Ticketus deal puzzles me, for one how did Whyte sell the season books without owning the club ? Murray must have known, he must have sanctioned it, surely Ticketus are not that dumb as to buy the seats without the knowledge of the then current owner, I think this one could get very messy litigation wise.

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09 Mar 2012 13:58:33
In regard to duff n phelps saying whyte wont profit,
Please cast your mind to admin first press conferance,asked who own ibrox n murray park etc is it in a company that is not in adminasration,Yes said mr whithouse,shh said paul clark,and whitehouse went on to say assets wete owned by a parent company of whytes,fact words out horses mouth,which you can still view,my question being it is not possibale for whyte not to gain as his other company owns the clubs assets,so duff n phelps doing a job on u all before you disagree watch the first press conferance,RANGERS FC DO NOT OWN IBROX ITS WHYTE,GET THE WOOL OFF & ASK QUESTIONS

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09 Mar 2012 13:54:22
If RANGERS are (as we are led to beleive by duff & phelps) to be taken over will stewart regan do HIS job and check new owners are fit and propper persons or will he wait again til the $h!+ hits the fan surely he wont make the same mistake twice ? then again it is the SFA WE ARE TALKING ABOUT,
Another thing that worrys me about all these statements being released by duff & phelps. . . .whos paying for all the A4 ?

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It is not Stewart Regans job to prove that you are fit and proper it is the club that they become a director of. Is this another thing that you are trying to dodge. Rangers always right but if they are wrong blame everyone else.

Ian(54 and subtracting) {Ed001's Note - actually it is their job to test them and make sure they are a fit and proper person before allowing any takeover to take place. No one is learning from the mistakes being made constantly, everyone is passing the buck, but the final responsibility to sign off on the deal is down to the SFA.}

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09 Mar 2012 13:45:53
pasted from the Celtic pages

Amazing what a funny handshake can do! {Ed001's Note - actually it is standard practice in a case of unmanageable debt to make a deal.}


check out my earlier post where i said it wont take them long to accuse the taxman of being a Mason also on there their is a young lady (i will assume she is young and a lady) saying the establishment is up to something didnt take long for the paranoia to surface


Wounded Bear

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Who were the ones talking about everyone was out to get yous and it was a witch hunt.Pot. Kettle. F****** Black

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09 Mar 2012 13:35:52
oh we will survive and come back stronger W A T P.jelly and ice cream any 1 ha
TRUEBLUE PROUD BLUE

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09 Mar 2012 13:35:37
If there's that many rangers minded fans with money ie king,Murray,park etc why don't they just hand the cash over and take everything on ie debt,tax case etc exactly there's no such thing as a rangers or Celtic business man there just business men who are in it for the money!why do you think they've got money in the 1st place?not buy throwing it at any old business!hail hail rusty the business man tim

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Tell me how many epl clubs are debt free and are making money no one in their right minds buys into football to make money not nowadays people usually by in because they are rich bored and they have nowt else to do with their cash


wounded bear

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Just a wee point tax case no verdict yet 2nd point tax man does not do deals fact who do u think put u in addmin for the 9 to 15 u owe them for this season u will be hit with full amount otherwise it would just say 2 other teams dont pay taxes and we will just take 10p in the pound when wee catch u

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This site makes me p@@@ myself no 1 really wanted 2 buy the club when white bought them from pound sh@p now we r to beleave people r falling over themselves 2 pay 30 40 or 50mill for the club wake up as for the tax case taxman does not do deals if he did it would leave the door open for other teams to do the samethat is why he wont do a deal fact fact

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Fact taxman done deal with Arsenal,Vodaphone,Goldman Sachs and tens of thousands of ordinary people who claimed tax credit and were overpaid.

do some research before coming on here and spouting rubbish you are less likely to make a fool out of yourself

Wounded Bear

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And the government was unhappy with the response to these deals so HMRC will no longer be doing such deals.

Do some research etc.

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09 Mar 2012 13:35:15
are those who bought bricks part owners of the stadium

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Dont be so silly

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09 Mar 2012 13:31:59
just a little mention to the likes of Regan/Doncaster/SFA/SPL and of course Dundee Utd Mr Thompson

Dealing with backstabbers, there was one thing I learned. They're only powerful when you got your back turned.

Eminem

and guess what guys we are turning to face you never again will we leave ourselves exposed

WHAT HASN'T KILLED US WILL HAVE MADE US STRONGER

Wounded Bear

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Big talk, lol.

The reality is that your club will end soon.

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What have any of the above done to your club please tell me and then explain.
Cant yous take the blame forr anything yous or your club do, your narcissitic world view is really incredible.

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As ive stated before if i seen someone being run over i would try help them if this was not possible i would leave them be ie stay out of the way i would never run over and put the boot in this is what these people have done they have seen us hanging by our fingertips and decided to jump on our hands if you look at my post you will see i never mentioned celtic as when it comes to the OF no quarter given and none asked for Christ sake rangers are not even dead yet and they are having meeting in secret to try and overthrow celtic this lot want the OF to pay dearly for decades of dominance.

Wounded Bear

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Why should fans take blame for what owners do get a life.

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09 Mar 2012 13:29:12
These 10 clubs that are meeting are intent on re structuring the league and stopping the dominance of the OF in Scottish Football.......

Bit rich in my opinion as the OF have kept these clubs in business for a long time now. Take us and Celtic out of scottish football and what do you have?? No OF=No product. What broadcaster or sponcer in their right mind would want a SPL without the guarentee of 4 OF games a season?? This has annoyed me big time. Our current situation regarding administration, liquidation, talk of take overs, dodgy owner, missing millions, HMRC ect,ect fair enough a meeting to discuss re structuring of the game wouldn't be priority but i don't understand why Celtic haven't been included. It's a total lack of respect and if i was celtic i'd be mega p####d!!! Thoughts??

J1985

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Personally I dont blame them, they should have a fairer share of tv money, I would hope that it would make for a stronger league, yes the old firm are the main players but without the rest who would we play ? As well as the point, tv money isnt really that much in terms of revenue.

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These other teams have been screwing the old firm for years when were in town highers ticket prices, and when were spending in there locals aswell and over inflated transfer fees ie drunken ferguson, goodwillie etc.

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09 Mar 2012 13:25:55
firstly - season books will not be voided.
And why should the hard up fan who has a family pay twice? should his kids go hungry? priorities! I will never be accused of not loving rangers.

Secondly today rangers fans have got some positive news in the media outlets after months of of relentless hounding, So what if we are positive about it!

ryanrfc

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09 Mar 2012 13:16:06
I wish that everyone would stop the speculation. Even Duff & Phelps don't know what the players will decide and it all hinges on their agreement. Don't get your hopes up too high!

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09 Mar 2012 13:07:58
WOW, Naisy, Whittaker etc must have been on some money if thats the million per month saved. Get a grip you lot. Your team is still gonna get ripped apart, IF you survive.

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Ohh somebodys got out the wrong side of there cage this morning,, tiny little bit of good news and ur running scared .........
craig+babybear

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Get a grip and stop hating rangers more than you love your own club.

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Aye bub, im bricking it. And your right, TINY bit of good news. Scroll down the page, much excitement over pretty much nothing yet.

Joeshmo1888

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Tiny bit of good news from the past 3 weeks will do me,watch you dont slip on your jelly and ice cream..
craig+babybear
how come some fans like gj and co have a banter but also some useful facts but u sound as if u want us to die, dont worry we will stop those other 10 spl clubs bullying u..

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09 Mar 2012 13:05:14
Wow, i have seen it all now. A few quotes in the paper and on Sky tv and the garden is all rosey again. Long way to go boys and girls. And watch the mass exodus in the summer.Your heads really have been buried in the sand over he past month.

Joeshmo1888

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No sand in my hair, more like yours has been due to the fact you think our club would die.. and hoped.....
dont be running scared already we havent even kicked off next season
craig+babybear
little bit of light at the end of the tunnel

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Yes i agree there is a long way to go, but for me keeping our history is more important at the moment and keeping the name glasgow rangers,

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Whatever happens, your club has died inside. A shambles and embarrasment to Scottish football. But hey, i will continue to pay 100% of my taxes so i can sleep easy at night.

Joeshmo1888

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09 Mar 2012 13:04:33
Does anyone know when we will hear about the outcome of the big tax case hearing? i thought we were supposed to know the outcome by the end of february, beginning of march. This obviously iwill have a huge bearing on selling the club

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I got told end of march ish mate.
craig+babybear

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09 Mar 2012 12:59:57
some idiots think that if the Ticketus deal is nullified, that's a problem solved. What about the 18m used from the money to pay off bank debt. That money came from Ticketus so they will want it back - how can the arrangement be nullified?

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He securities are with wavetower(whyte) not rangers - and noone think were out of the woods but it goes a long way to helping us. for months weve been dragged through the dirt - dont blame us for getting excited about a bit of positive news


ryanrfc

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Let them pursue mr whyte and the bank for it

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09 Mar 2012 12:57:57
It seems that the ice cream has melted and the jelly has slipped aff the plate at a certain timothy's party!!

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Not in the slightest,just foolish bears beleiving the spin and burying their heads again

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09 Mar 2012 12:51:52
Good Day Fellow Bears

Lest we forget, it would seem that we can see our way out of the woods today, good news has not been a regular visitor of late.
However when all this is nothing more than distant history, lets not forget certain things.

The backstabbers:
Arabs
Ba* bags fae the dark side
The SPL
The SFA
Most of all the press, trial by media, think on me boys.
Once a bear always a bear.

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Oh im shaking here.not over yet.lets see what the season end brings

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You forgot to mention Rangers themselves they are the only ones responsible for your current plight

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Why what you gonna do LOL.....eeerrrrrm NOTHING ?

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Someone help me. Hes gonna get me. Aye were all against you bud. No one like you, you dont care the song goes.....but apparently you do care......you want a hug?

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How have all these people and associations backstabbed you.
Arabs due £100000 pay up
SPL Lied to about contracts
SFA Investigated your club and found your owner not to be fit and proper
Media have not seen any lies from them.

So I think I know where the cloak and daggers are.

Almost forgot everything that Celtic supporters have been saying has come true.

Ian(54 and subtracting)

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Yous cant even organise a protest LOL

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09 Mar 2012 12:50:26
Rusty the tim' right rangers fans come off your high horses and look at the situation thru a normal pair of glasses. The players are taking a wage cut to keep the club alive until the end of the season,thats how grim it is.the end of the season is what I would be worrying about, ie what's in the players contract,any release closes etc I would be worried. No player would take that cut unless they'll get it back in another way!would all of use take that sort of cut for a crook!!don't think so.on the sale of the club now.where were these people last year and the year before??? There business men so unless they make money from it forget it.liquidation is the only way they will make money ie no debt,negotiate wages on there terms... It doesn't look to good after all does it. Hail hail rusty the tim

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Breaks your baws that when it comes to it THERE is real rangers men there to save us unlike in 94 guy in bunnet an all that, becomes a hero a decade after he leaves ( is forced out) there were no "Celtic class" guys to save you lot was there mate? Wee fragal eh ? Fair play to the wee chap buy the way

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Ha ha rusty the dhim!. Whats wrong did you spend all your giro on jelly and ice cream. We bears all know its not all over.all we know is that after weeks off bad news there seems to be a light at the end off the tunnel,eg players agreeing cuts, possible deal with hmrc and interested buyers. The biggest,most pleasing news for me is that there is a chance that wee weasel faced b@wbag craig whyte might not get any money out off our club. W.A.T.P. billy the bear.

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Did you read what I wrote!honestly people like you give rangers a bad name!!I said business men only come in to make money. Is that not what the wee guy said from day 1.I'm here for so long to make so much!!football players will only look after themselves as well either by there wage or the small print in there contract!1 word sums you up!! Fud!hail hail rusty the tim

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I hope you do come out the other side as Rangers F.C I dont want you to go out of business. The reason why I dont want this is because I want the SPL, SFA and UEFA to investigate you for what you have done over the decades. All will become clear and then we will see how much of a club is left.

I want you punished for all the corrupt deals, back handers, non payments to clubs and HMRC that has gone on over the years.

Ian(54 and subtracting)

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09 Mar 2012 12:41:03
Just been looking on the other mobs rumours page, its full off establishment this,funny hand shakes that. Funny as f@ck. things are beginning to look up fellow bears. W.A.T.P...billy the bear.

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Not from me billy beef. enjoy your happy times,i got a feeling the end of the season might shock you. A Tim.

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09 Mar 2012 12:33:53
Good news that a deal has been struck with the administrators to implement a substantial wage cut. Also good news too about the likelihood of more than one potential bid for Rangers. Isn't it interesting how many people (Daily Record, SFA, Celtic and others) are almost willing Rangers to go out of existence? Yet Rangers are the world's most successful football club and have brought great honour and pride to Scottish football. The best thing we can do is be bought by a genuine new owner or owners - so much for the so-called Rangers-minded people like Bain, King and Johnston who are all now putting the boot in big style. Give us a season to get back on track and Rangers will be back winning honours again, and maybe even make a real go of European football. WATP.

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What a load of cobblers! Last week king and johnson were heroes for speaking out about whyte now there out!honour and pride? you were a disgrace and a shame till you signed mo johnston.Euro football? lets see what the end of the season brings eh.i think there might be a few more twists in this tale. A Tim

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A dhim more like. Billy the bear

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09 Mar 2012 12:30:09
ref
So all through this the tabloids were lying scum but now they tell the truth? you people need a reality check,have you learned nothing?

depends what side of the fence you are on m8 if you are a septic fan every negative thing the tabloids wrote about rangers was the gospel truth now they are printing something positive they are lying B******s and if you are a follower of the mighty rangers (which i am) then every time the tabloids wrote something negative about our club the were lying B******s now they write something positive obviously they are telling the truth.

ITS CALLED HOPE MY FRIEND from your perspective you hope the neg is true and we die and us well we hope the positive is true and we survive prosper and re-take our rightful position as the best TEAM IN SCOTLAND


Wounded bear (but feeling better)

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Well said sir, well said!
BB

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@wounded bear; some of us dont even read the tabloids,so i could not comment on them,only what i read on here.and that was the view most gers fans had.

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Brilliant post mate
craig+babybear

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I have never once wanted you out of business. I want you to survive and face the consequences of your years of mis management and suspect deals EBT'S Non payment of Tax/ Clubs back handers and whatever else you lot have done to try and follow in our (Celtic F.C) footsteps.

Ian(54 and subtracting)

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09 Mar 2012 12:21:00
Former Rangers midfielder Jorg Albertz has slammed claims that players were given under-the-table contracts and vowed to show the SPL all of his paperwork from his time at Ibrox. (The Star)

is this when all the old players come out and insist there was no second contract..

and will show the sfa/spl only the same contract they have on records. effectively stopping any investigation proving anything under hand happened,

as surely they will need documented proof of a second contract.. and if they aint handed over by rangers or by the questioned players. it will become impossible to prove that any extra payment as on a contractual basis.

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"I'm GER-man" best poster I had as a loon man! Taken right after his goal vs bayern, the hammers a legend mate!
PaulRFC

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Maybie he was not on an EBT? dznt really prove anything.

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09 Mar 2012 12:19:43
Players staying and now we have to pay in to watch the awful squad who will all leave in summer costing faans n players money but making others richer,get real people it all stinks

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Your opinion stinks

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What part of liquidation do ye no get ffs

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09 Mar 2012 12:18:06
My euro lotto comes in the night I'LL BE HEADING A CONSORTIUM! I'm inviting Gdog an les to join me! You aswell TB why not ma man! (if only eh boys)
PaulRFC

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Paulrfc with Cheltenham just round the corner i think i,ll join you in your big adventure

i,d make sure adidas were the shirt deal
unicorn were the shirt sponnsor...why unicorn they make darts....that way we would have the.....we arrow people...on our shirt
i,d have orange sponsor the stadium too
buy the shops back
buy the catering back
thats just tae start way paul if you dont mind

o and a freindly wae port vale and portsmouth to please........your ...les

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Defo mate ! Ha i new I could rely on you les! Let's give the power to the people ! It's the way to go
PaulRFC

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09 Mar 2012 12:16:02
A better day to be a rangers fan today. Read a few posts on here and everyone saying brilliant can cut deal with tax man, someone to take over the club coming in etc, ticketus to lose there money etc. Players taking 75 percent wage cut. These are all good things for rangers but does everyone think that a new owner will run the club at a loss as sdm did. If not and 1 million a month needs to be saved what will the average player wage be next season, will this still result in top players leaving in the summer. Are rangers problems going to be solved by one person in a couple of months or are cost cutting measures to be put in place for a few seasons till rangers get back to full strength. just seeking peoples thoughts on how the new Rangers will progress

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Dont worry, we will be back.... and they know it!

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I ask for opinions and people disagree, classic

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Whos they?

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09 Mar 2012 12:12:15
Lads if your going to take a client out for
Lunch go to the Argyle sweet in and support
The club I am sitting there at the moment
Having lunch sadly there is only about 5
People in the resturant. The foods good and the
Top price for a main meal is about £9.00
Let's get eating chaps and support the team
WATP
Bro J

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Brilliant.the argyle SWEET. only outa ipox!

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09 Mar 2012 11:25:21
Players doing deals,7 interested parties to takeover club and taxman going to deal 10p in the pound. Things are beginning to look up. Celtic fans i hope you've not bought all your jelly and ice cream just yet!!. Billy the bear..W.A.T.P.

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Is the 10p in the pound for the unpaid tax since whyte took over mate aye? I was hoping for a deal that could of seen us pay more back, then atleast we could say we have paid our dues.
@Gdog yeah mate it was late when I posted that bout nais an whitts shouldn't of said get rid of whitts, but see when I hear atlast our big earners are taking cuts, instead of feeling joy an satisfaction the feeling I get is " about bloody time"... But I do really want us to pay back as much as
we can, 10p in the pound doesn't sound much
PaulRFC

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@Paulrfc.very honourable sentiment mate. well done........green jhedi

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09 Mar 2012 11:21:48
Please remember Port vale and Portsmouth

something should be done to help these clubs.......les {Ed001's Note - and Oxford.}

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Agree mate but lets not jump the gun until we are fixed, after no worries mate fantastic idea. craig+babybear

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09 Mar 2012 11:15:07
not many celtic fans on here today... lol..we are the people, great day to be a bear, thing are looking up..... jsm

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Rankers are still neck deep in s***, everything is not fine, potential buyer does not mean that money will not be an issue.

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09 Mar 2012 11:14:34
Brilliant to see top players supporting club taking pay cuts.. fans can do they're bit by waving season tickets and paying for remaining games.. we're all in this together. lets cancel the jelly and ice cream party. ayrshire bluebelle watp

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09 Mar 2012 11:14:17
To help the club some more instead of going to away matches get rangers to screen at ibrox pay 10 pound to get in an all go to ibrox instead of giving money to or witch hunters in premier league

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I think thats a fantastic idea, get 10-15,000 into ibrox paying £10-£15 per head instead of filling the coffers of clubs who want us gone. our money then goes to help our club instead of clubs who want rid of us

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Why not have open training days at Ibrox during the Easter holidays? Open up the Copland Road stand, Adults £5 kids £2, might not be much but it's basically money for nothing and I'm sure the players would be happy to train in front of the fans.

The Pilot!

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Less tax and vat,and beamback fee,and stewarding?

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Correct after tax and what have you but would you rather have some of something or all of nothing? little things like that could make a massive difference to whatever future the club has. lets not kid ourselves on here we are still up to our necks in it and are fighting for survival. fingers crossed some of the stuff reported today is true and we might be able to survive. as for the hmrc willing to negotiate, i hope so but lets be clear IF it is proved we screwed them over then we DO need to pay up as much as possible and hopefully those responsible SDM etc will be taken to task for it.

DJ

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09 Mar 2012 11:03:13
Dear the players

Thank you.

From the fans

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09 Mar 2012 10:50:49
If we come out of this dark time and Im sure we will,the players should be given a two minutes standing ovation as thanks to their fantastic gesture of taking significant wage reductions to save our club !! Agree or Disagree please. BARASSSIEGER

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I would wait till the terms of the deal are known,future sell on value,percentage of sale etc,the end of the season is a vital period now.

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09 Mar 2012 10:36:12
In these days of greed huge banker bonuses and corporate fraud chasing the fast buck.How humblying to see football players from our club thinking about other people and agreeing a massive 75% pay cut. I now wait with baited breath for the wee liar to do the decent thing.

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Celebrate when the facts surrounding the deal comes out.Remember it,s agents that are involved here.

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They have been negoiating for over a week but take original offer of 75% CUT, not very heroic. Also does not cover the million a month

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09 Mar 2012 10:31:16
Clark last night said in the BBC interview that neither he, his firm or any of the partners in his firm or previous firm MCR had any prior connection with Whyte. This is taken directly from the press " David Grier (an employee of Duff and Phelps) was one of the city slickers who marched down Edmiston Drive on may 7th last year, a day after Whyte had won control of Rangers.

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In my mind Duff & Phelps should not be trusted yet.There still seems to lots of spin involved here,not to mention their ever increasing fee(100k p/w) and the deal players agents have cut.

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09 Mar 2012 10:12:26
Why all of a sudden are rangers fans believing the red top rags? After all it was these same papers claiming the Whyte knight had arrived with a warchest and who done no digging whatsoever on this mans background. Soon as they print more positive trash talk you are all ready to believe every word, waken up. Tax rates are fixed and th taxman has winding up orders at the ready for port vale and Portsmouth who,combined, owe less than 10% of the amount you are currently liable for. Then the big tax case to be considered too. Craig Whyte has played this game before and I can assure you he has played it outwith a moral code but within the law, guarantee it. He is not a silly man, and the new pay deal doesn't change too much.

Jamie Mac(loves rangers fans willingness to believe anything)

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Jamie Mac (loves thinking about rangers more than his own team)

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The same reasons that Celtic fans have been believing anything negative about our club in the papers over last few months have been true.

BFH

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We would rather read them than read your hate filled nonsense .Jealousy and envy all the way with your crew , the good news is we have several groups interested, not as interested as Celtic supporters who have bombarded this site with nasty rabid bile offending decent football fans all over the world , we have had sympathetic notes from decent people who cannot understand the offensive viewpoints put forward by so called Celtic fans , I'm sure it's only a minority but they do lshow your club up in a bad light .

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You got a point there mate but can i ask you why all of a sudden every celtic fan refuses to believe the red tops when they say something that shows a positive outcome for rangers but prior to this they quoted them like they were one of the ten commandments written by god. i just cant wait to see the the post if the taxman has indeed agreed a deal. he will be accused of being a mason/orangeman etc these are just a few of the names that are printable


Wounded Bear

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Yeah celtic fans disgrace themselves by wanting the full punishment of the law against tax dodging

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You think some of the stuff on here is bad, you should some of the rabid bile poured out from certain quarters in the Daily Record. Its got to the stage there are no replies from Rangers fans to any of the articles, just hoards of celtic & fans of the other clubs in Scotland who have been happy enough to take our money over the years.

Now I am the first to admit there is serious wrongs to be righted by RFC, but as fans who had nothing to do with the financial side wrongdoings, (most of which is yet to be proved).

If we say anything the standard reply, is "youse did it to us in the 90's". Now in the 90's I agree there was a lot of flak heading celtics way, most of it from the red-tops, but given the development of the internet only came about in the mid 90's there is no way they took the same amount of bile that we are taking just now!

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A hint of irony in a Rangers fan complaining about rabid bile? As a non-Old Firm fan, I think that rabid bile has spewed out of some fan of both clubs for as long as I can remember.

The Bookie

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09 Mar 2012 10:09:38
I will be out with the buckets at the next home game. Make sure you all donate generously, the money will be going straight into the club. I recon we could raise £100,000 every home game from loose change.
Be a bear and get the money in the bucket!

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So everybody is to trust a guy wandering around ibrox with a bucket? Are you having a laugh or are you Craig Whyte in a false beard and specs?

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Instead of a wee hand, he'll have a googly eye!

1903

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09 Mar 2012 10:08:35
Open your eyes people craig whyte right hand man are duff n phelps,all players take cuts (whilst they get paid top doller) keeps sum value gets a seller,& in meantime all heat turned down on whyte from his buddies,duff n phelps,be warned folks

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Thats kinda the way i see it mate.Nothing to celebrate yet.iI would love to know the deals the players cut themselves,if it's gagged then they are hiding something

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09 Mar 2012 10:06:36
Administrators are using the Scottish Media to take the absolute pish out of Rangers fans, and of course the scottish Media are falling for it hook line and sinker.

No serious prospective purchaser will buy Rangers in their current state. Even if there was an interested party wanting to take Rangers out of administration, challenges through the courts from various parties will take months preventing this.

Yes, there will be serioud parties at the table, but they will only be interested in forming a newco.

Liquidation remains the only real option on the table.

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Deary me , control yourself man , it's healthy to have competition but you seem to be foaming at the mouth preying for the demise of Rangers , just try and get your own team to try and emulate rangers success.Your big hope is not going to happen.

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09 Mar 2012 09:59:48
does anyone else find it a bit strange that it takes stuart regan and his sfa almost 10 months to figure out cw is not a fit person, when it only took allistair johnston, john greig, john mclleland and of course the bbc a couple of weeks to suss him out?

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Considering the SFA are a shambles of an organisation, it really doesn't surprise me. What do they actually do?

GovanFR

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It's Stewart Regan who's not a fit and proper person.

Das Shadow

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09 Mar 2012 09:53:57
Pissing myself laughing at you lot. Here we go again paper says this paper says that bla bla bla must be true. The same papers that said Craig White had wealth of the radar lol. Going to gives you's a good thumping that's if yous are still around on the 25th. See yaz cheaters. Bigirishmac

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If were not around on the 25th then cya Scottish football!

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Ok bigirishand the rest - I've read your posts and you simply repeat what's posted earlier or copied from the celtic banter page or the rangerstaxcase. Here's your chance, post a clear prediction of what's going to happen to RFC covering the - HMRC, Administration, potential buyers, SPL and SFA reports, RFC players and their agents, CW and SDM, High Court hearing and the OF result and we'll see what your all about. Come on then shouldn't be hard for the likes of you.

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09 Mar 2012 09:48:28
Thank you to the two Steves, legends of the highest order. Now let's get our club back.

Gus

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Lets see the deal they cut.In the long term it might cost more.

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09 Mar 2012 09:47:40
Whyte out soon, New owner in and all our top players staying as it will cost a new owner too much to replace. Duff and Phelps could be worth every penny if this all works out including a deal with the TAXMAN. Rangers will never die.

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Yup,the red tops are back in favour down ipox way. Will you never learn?

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09 Mar 2012 09:46:40
I tell you, when we come out of this I can't wait to see what the mhanky mob decide to start greetin' about! After they have blamed everyone from the Queen to Chick Young (unless they are the same person...) for us surviving, I wonder how long it will be before it's the ref's fault again...!
BB

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Things looking a bit better if all is to be believed in the rags. Lets hope this mess gets sorted and we can put Whytes nine months behind us. Our season is over but I would like us to get some result against the green and grey mhanks and stuff the jelly and ice cream right up their a**e

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So all through this the tabloids were lying scum but now they tell the truth? you people need a reality check,have you learned nothing?

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It was the early kick off to blame last week!!

JG

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09 Mar 2012 09:42:17
Why don't we all just wait and see!

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09 Mar 2012 09:40:17
Rangers takeover will fail with the club stating that HMRC were NOT willing to make a deal to pay the bill over an extended period of time. David Murray will also take the blame as Paul Murray's takeover condition was that SDM footed the big tax bill.

Pay cuts today by big players will be in vain as redundancies will happen and the club ultimately wil be liquidated.

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I bet your just a fookin' BUNDLE o' joy in the morning!
BB

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09 Mar 2012 09:25:52
Read on other forum some guy claiming to be an administrator saying the adminastration team at rangers need to seen to try cost cust and save the club but he claims everything done so would suggest that they are preparing for liquidation. He says the fact rangers finances are so bad and major cost cutting was not done immediately suggests it is because the club could not be saved.

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09 Mar 2012 09:25:01
yep. it could all be just a bad dream. and you step out of the shower like patrick duffy from dallas and all is ok. NO. you are not a people.

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09 Mar 2012 09:16:56
It seems people never learn. Even a little positive news is snapped up and made into something. This is the very same reason that this whole mess was allowed. The same press who fed you bulls**t the first time round are now feeding you different bulls**t. The problem is appears is everybodys willingness to accept everything that is spouted, some even post the same s**te on here. Anything or anyone that comes along as long as Rangers dont go out of business then thats fine. I heard that Bashar al-Assad is one of the interested parties. He has lots of cash to invest so The Rangers can be saved. Dont worry only killed a few folk but thats was necessary and can be explained away in the Daily Record and Sun etc. Beggars belief......

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09 Mar 2012 09:06:39
Ive heard theres a historic link between Wh**e and SDM about to be exposed. Idea was to finish Rangers and get into English lower league by purchasing a club down there and changing its name to Rangers and moving their ground to Ibrox. Anyone remember someone down south registered several company names with RANGERS links? Could SDM have had a grand plan thats dramatically backfired?

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09 Mar 2012 08:59:16
Why are we (AND CELTIC) not
taking part in the planned meeting
with the 10 other SPl teams? This
is not right in my opinion. Greedy
wee teams trying to stitch up the
Old Firm me thinks.

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They still have there own interests to look after. The question is why do you continually keep there clubs afloat by buying stuff from there stadium. I for one never buy a thing inside an away ground. I will never step foot inside Tannadice, Pittodrie, Easter road and Porkheid ever again. They have been having a kick at us for weeks now and are loving every minute. I would suggest Rangers fans make a statement of intent by boycotting Tannadice the lost revenue will crucify them.

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Aw diddums - everyone's fault but Rangers'.

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09 Mar 2012 08:56:28
It's getting better ed s**te is not fit to run a club then today administrators say he will not get a penny fantastic news been a lot off damage done take long time to repair end of the day that b**tard should be jailed ed is the police still in to the on going at rangers ... Kenny bluenose {Ed001's Note - the police will have been informed of any potential wrongdoing.}

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09 Mar 2012 08:24:19
Steven naismith and Steven Whittker REAL LEGENDS.

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Dae ye think? Wait till the real story comes out. HA HA.

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Wouldn't go as far as Legends

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09 Mar 2012 07:48:52
"There's no obvious signs, or information, or clarification we've seen that would suggest he's actually paid any personal money into Rangers Football Club and therefore I don't see at the moment that he has secured creditor status."

This is fantastic news for us, whyte is going to walk away a disgrace with no money, hes just made a fool of himself, and with the players agreeing to take a paycut and potential buyers waiting in the wings, could actually be a little rosier at Ibrox!! GgER

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09 Mar 2012 07:43:32
craig whyte will quit scotland and move to london. He has put his castle on the market and hoping for a quick sale.

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09 Mar 2012 07:30:06
On various subject lines about Season Tickets being made null and void ...

Good to see so many "LOYAL" season ticket holders on here!

Option 1 : Dig a little deeper and SUPPORT your team

Option 2 : Watch the Club die and then sit back and say "why didnt anyone do anything to save us?"

I cant really afford to pay again ... but if it keeps Rangers alive .. I will !

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I hope you'll be happy then if LOYAL fans pay again and their kids go hungry.

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People that can't afford to dig deeper after PAYING there season ticket are any less loyal are they ?? Away back to the circus ya clown !

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Your priorities are all over the place mate.

Steven.

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09 Mar 2012 07:28:13
uuuhhm. getting a bit confusing for me. are these administrators not the buddies of craig whyte who accompanied him into ibrox last year. and THEY get to choose who next buys the club. and tell us craigie boy wont make any money. what a joke.

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09 Mar 2012 07:27:53
The confidence Duff & Phelps portray of a deal with HMRC is a tad confusing when its known that HMRC are laying claim to the money in the collyer bristow account. Did I not read in the press that Rangers needed this money to fulfil their fixture list and prevent liquidation?

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09 Mar 2012 07:15:18
An investigation has revealed that, far from being a creditor of the club, Whyte’s takeover company Wavetower, which has since been renamed the Rangers Football Club Group Limited, actually owes money to the football club.
As a result, it is understood that although Whyte’s shares cannot be forcibly taken from him, there are legal mechanisms by which the administrator would effectively control them. It is likely those measures will be stepped up in the coming days.
Similarly, Whyte’s claim to being a secured creditor of the club to the tune of £18m also appeared to be unravelling on Thursday night.
Whyte bought the club for just £1 from Murray but part of the condition of sale was that he paid off the £18m owed to Lloyd’s Bank. Despite initially denying it, Whyte paid Lloyd’s off with £24.4m he received by selling three years of future season tickets to London-based Ticketus.
Although the bank was effectively paid off with fans’ money, Whyte immediately laid claim to £18m in the event of an insolvency action. It is understood he has now been left in no doubt that he has no claim to this sum.
Ticketus’ claim on the majority of seats at Rangers’ games for the next three years is also set to go before the courts in the next week.
Lawyers for Duff & Phelps believe they can demonstrate that the ownership of the tickets should be declared null and void, thus freeing up huge income streams for prospective new owners.
Any new owner will still have to deal with the £15m owed to HMRC in unpaid PAYE and the possibility of a further £49m from the so-called ‘big tax case’.
However, sources close to the negotiations say that HMRC are prepared to talk about the possibility of a CVA - the creditors’ arrangement required for the club to exit administration - as long is there is ‘regime change’.

There appears to be some light, at the end of what has been a very dark tunnel.

BigGordi.

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09 Mar 2012 07:04:54
Steven Naismith and Steven Whittaker, thank you. True blues!

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Took them long enough.

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09 Mar 2012 06:34:13
how can Rangers be charged with bringing the game into disreput when DM and board ran up the debt were forced to sell the club by LLoyds bank for 1p to CW who now has been seen as unfit to be a director, should it not be these people that are held responsable and not the club ! lets go down the celtic route- why are the sfa always picking on us waah waah !

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09 Mar 2012 06:02:09
Sir Alex Ferguson is the latest big name to give his backing to the SaveRangers campaign. Earlier this week the Manchester United Manager and former Rangers player wrote to the Rangers Supporters Trust (RST) wishing it all the best with the SaveRangers campaign and sympathising with the club in its current plight.

In his letter to the RST he said:

Having been born within one mile of Ibrox Stadium and grew up supporting Rangers, and had the pleasure of playing for them, I hope that the future of this great Club is made secure. No matter whether you supported them or not, no one can dispute their place in Scottish Football history.

It makes depressing reading of their current situation and I fear not only for the supporters but for those loyal staff members whose lives are embedded in the fabric of the club.

Ally McCoist and his staff have done a marvelous job in continuing under such pressure and other staff like Sandy Sardine who work tirelessly to maintain the Club’s prominence.

I wish Rangers Football Club all the good luck in the coming weeks and sincerely hope a resolution is found.

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Any pledge with that ?

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09 Mar 2012 05:43:03
RANGERS were thrown a dramatic lifeline last night as it was revealed the taxman WILL do a deal with the stricken giants.
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But the crisis-hit club were warned their £49million battle with HMRC and the £9million bill for unpaid VAT and PAYE will only be resolved if owner Craig Whyte gets the boot.

The Scottish Sun can reveal a compromise deal — sanctioned at Treasury level — is within reach which could see the fallen giants pay back as little as TEN PENCE in the pound.

That would mean instead of paying a whopping £49million penalty, Gers could get off with forking out a paltry £4.9million.

But the negotiations hinge on new owners replacing shamed Whyte — and a company voluntary agreement in place with creditors.

Last night Duff and Phelps joint administrator Paul Clark insisted: "HMRC have said to me that they do not want Rangers to fail.

"There will be negotiations between ourselves, any new buyer and HMRC as to what that percentage will be. Assuming the company goes for a CVA there will be some form of deal done.

"Whether that deal is a 10 per cent deal, a 50 per cent deal or a 100 per cent deal over a period of time, that's all up for grabs.

"I don't suspect it will be a 100 per cent deal.

"Someone said to me that HMRC never accepted anything other than 100p. That is simply not true.

"People may have got that because of the attitude shown towards clubs in the English league.

"English football clubs have the football creditors rule. You don't have that in Scottish football.

"Ultimately a deal can, should and, I believe, will be done to offer HMRC a proper distribution from a CVA."

The Scottish Sun understands that a tax deal with HMRC — whose mascot used to be Hector the Taxman — has been discussed and given the go-ahead at the highest levels of government.

A source said: "This is welcome news for whoever wants to come in and take over Rangers.

At least anyone coming in knows that HMRC are going to be flexible.

"It is also in their interest as if the club goes into liquidation they will get nothing.

"The deal is only on the table for new owners and NOT Craig Whyte. He has treated HMRC with contempt." The news will be a welcome boost for hard-pressed fans who feared the worst after administrators — who yesterday arrived at Ibrox in a light blue van — launched a last-gasp bid to sell the club.

Duff and Phelps also admitted they might not have enough cash to fulfil the rest of their games this season.

But last night Clark said he was confident the cash-strapped club would stay alive — and get out of administration.

He dismissed the fears of Gers director Dave King — who is planning a takeover with a consortium — that the club could die within weeks.

Clark said: "There has never been a plan for liquidation.

There has never been a plan to destroy the fabric or history of the club.

I don't think that we have ever suggested that liquidation is really an option.

When people talk about liquidation they mean a closure, an end to Rangers Football Club.

What people really mean is, could there be a sale of the business to a new company and then the old company is liquidated.

I don't think that is likely but I accept it's still a possibility.

We are still pushing towards a CVA and that's what we've always been pushing towards.

"I don't fully understand why anyone would suggest that the steps we're taking is a move towards liquidation.

"It has been a challenge and it will continue to be challenging on all aspects and that includes getting an agreement with the players. I am confident we can gain a CVA and be out of administration before the end of the season."

But Clark has urged potential buyers to stop posturing and get around the table.

He added: "We want to make sure that anyone who is really in, is in.

"We want them to show their hand as opposed to just talking about it. There has been a lot of talk.

"We don't think by this time next Friday we'll have our final party that are going to buy on the Monday thereafter. What we do hope is those parties still left next Friday will have properly expressed their interest and we can talk to a smaller contingent who want to move this forward.

The sooner we can tease out who these buyers are and who these interested parties are the better.

If that means it then takes another few weeks to finalise the deal then so be it.

We will have a clearer understanding of where we are going. The talking is over, let's get on with it.

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09 Mar 2012 04:29:50
Hopefully we will buy some Arsenal shares when the new owners are in place.

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No i hope we buy some Portsmouth shares when this is all done

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09 Mar 2012 02:02:35
the sun are doing a story that hmrc have agreed to do a deal with hmrc which could see rangers pay 10 pence in the pound so instead of paying a whooping £49 million rangers might only be paying £4.9million if this is true i will be the happiest man alive

campbell

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Agreed a deal before the verdict? Rubbish !
PaulRFC

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I meant rangers doing a deal with hmrc sorry for mistake

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Prepare to be unhappy,no deals pay your dues

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09 Mar 2012 01:57:59
This is getting really boring now. If rfc was an animal, it would have been put down to stop suffering from a slow painful death. Bit no, not rfc, & you lot are latching on to any ridiculous idea of a stay of execution. At least have some dignity, & stop making complete fools of yourselves. You WILL be liquidated, & ibrox will be sold, but then you'will reinvent yourselves. The only question is where, the possibility of a 50 point deduction penalty for "illegal" signings will result in relegation, failure to complete the rest of the season will result in expulsion. Can it get any worse? Well im afraid it does.....The juniors league is full. But u will be able to book a pitch at "GOALS", though u do have to pay before u play
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You really are a bitter little troll. I actually pity you, being so consumed with rage and hate must be an awful burden to bear.

IF gers are liquidated and newco GRFC or whatever are no given admission to the spl by the six small minds that constitute the spl board, the sfl will obviously be a team short and will take applications. I might actually prefer that to be honest, certainly than being readmitted to the spl with onerous penalties for the next umpteen years which in and of themselves shall make a mockery of "sporting integrity" ironically enough.

THESE WILL ALWAYS BE A RANGERS SO GET OVER IT YOU SAD LITTLE MAN. :-D

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Yip well said each day i wake up and read the stuff on here its like reading stuff out a comic book now we have 7 partys wanting 2 buy rankers now lets go back a wee bit white got the club out the pound shop now u want us 2 beleave that lots of people now want 2 buy the club for 30 40 or 50 mil when they could have had it for a pound at start of season plus pay a 50mil tax debt that will come in then spend about the same 2 sort team out wake up stop dreaming

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Another financial expert from Septic got to love there effort but.

Billyboy1

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09 Mar 2012 01:48:26
I dont want us to get ahead of ourselves but some of the stories floating around some of the tabloids - are a lot more positive than what they have been in recent times. spirits have seen a significant rise. gota say if any of them are to be beleived then the D and P boys are to be commended on their work

ryanrfc

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So you guys are in love with the media again, after saying they were all out to get you..never seen so many peopel jumping ship to ship...wake up

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What i meant is todays news is more positive than it has been - try not reading into everything

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09 Mar 2012 01:19:30
Does anybody think the scotsman is a good paper?, stewie

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09 Mar 2012 01:02:31
Naismith an Whittaker agree to take 75% wage cuts, are these the main two big earners who have been holding things up? WTF are that two about like? They've been paid a fortune while sitting doing f£ck all, I'm absolutely gutted it's Naismith man, as for Whittaker...? Get rid of him ASAP, let's hope a deal can be struck with all players later in the day then!
PaulRFC

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Paul, how can you jump to the conclusion they held things up?? As it stands they are the first to agree!!!
75% cuts are massive, if you earn 6000 you spend 6000 if you earn 1000 you spend 1000. Should they put back in what they have got for a long time? Yes; I believe they should give something back in the clubs hour of need, no question. But to ask for one of them to be punted moments after accepting 75% cuts is outrageous mate, c'mon.

GDog
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09 Mar 2012 00:43:47
rangers have just agreed deals with Naismith and whittaker to take 75 percent cut in wages which is really good well done to Naismith and whittaker proud of them helping to save the club

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09 Mar 2012 00:38:00
Ed? how did keeds manage to keep their name after they liquidised? is it because their rules are different? like the NEWCO would possibly be called GLASGOW rangers or even try and keep the name, maybe you don't know though mate lol, (LOYAL BEAR) {Ed001's Note - it was a phoenix club, because it was so closely related to the original, they did not actually liquidate.}

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Awryt so phoenix and newco are different? sorry ed am a thick bear ha! nah only jokin its the 1st I've actually got involved in anythin like this i.e liquidation, newco etc etc lol (LOYAL BEAR) {Ed001's Note - it is very different mate, a phoenix is still basically the same company.}

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Awryt cheers buddy for clearing that up, so would it be worth while havin a phoenix club ran? IF it came to it? by what the admins are saying their basically will be light at the end of the tunnel, i.e, CVA. craig whyte out and a few potential big bidders . (LOYAL BEAR) {Ed001's Note - I believe the phoenix club is only an option if it retains a very close connection to the previous club, as in Whyte would still be the owner. That is how it was explained to me anyway. I think that would not satisfy any of the fans, leaving only a rescue bid or a new co as the options left. Certainly any rescue bid could be done with the backing of a fans' group or trust, that way a percentage of the club would be in the hands of fans rather than businessmen.}

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09 Mar 2012 00:36:36
7 different bidders interested in buying rangers including 2 from the usa and 1 from the far east. Any ideas who these might be ed?. Billy the bear. {Ed001's Note - I don't know right now, this would be more of Ed002's area of expertise, I will ask her to see what she can come up with.}

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Cheers ed. billy the bear. {Ed001's Note - I have left a note to ask her, I will pass on or she will come on and say for herself any info.}

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So rangers were sold for a pound and whyte was the only man stupid enough to buy rangers for a pound(the only man who would step up they tell us)....now a newspaper would have us believe that there are 7 new bidders climbing over each other to buy rangers, but not for a pound....but for 20 million?40 million?80 million?who knows how much is needed to buy rangers?they wont get it for a pound this time around...why didnt the so called 7 bid a year ago and save themselves a lot of money?

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09 Mar 2012 00:34:55
bbc sport website reporting

steven naismith and steven whittaker have agreed deals to take the 75% wage cuts,

hopefully the rest will follow today and we will stay alive until we get a new owner.

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09 Mar 2012 00:23:21
Rangers are going to release:

Healy
Oritz
Goian
Aluko
Kerkar
Bocanegra
Bedoya
Edu
Papac

from there contracts

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09 Mar 2012 00:03:46
Met an old guy today who lost a relative in the Ibrox disaster. He still is hurting and this fiasco is making things ten times worse, this guy loves the Rangers.

For Sir D M and CW you should hang your heads in shame. People died supporting this club, and the two of you, sheister and sheister ltd have brought us to our knees. Shame on you.

If for no other reason than these people's memory we must do whatever it takes not to go into liquidation.

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