Rangers Banter Archive June 09 2011

 

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09 Jun 2011 22:53:41
I would like to see the following players come in this summer:

Darren McGregor (Squad Player)
Carlos Cuellar
Kyle Bartley
Lee Wallace
Maxi Moralez
Craig Conway
David Goodwillie
DJ Campbell

Any thoughts on these boys ed?

{Ed010's Note -I would be happy to see most but not necessarily all of your players run out for Rangers. Seeing Lee Wallace on your list, got me thinking that if Wallace was signed as a left back, would Ally consider moving Sasa Papac in to central defence. He was afterall purchased by PLG as a CB and has played there for Bosnia.

It's just a thought guys, in the interest of debate.

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I would like to see the following players come in this summer:

Darren McGregor (Squad Player)
Carlos Cuellar
Kyle Bartley
Lee Wallace
Maxi Moralez
Craig Conway
David Goodwillie
DJ Campbell

Any thoughts on these boys ed?

{Ed010's Note -I would be happy to see most but not necessarily all of your players run out for Rangers. Seeing Lee Wallace on your list, got me thinking that if Wallace was signed as a left back, would Ally consider moving Sasa Papac in to central defence. He was afterall purchased by PLG as a CB and has played there for Bosnia.

It's just a thought guys, in the interest of debate.

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Cheers for your response ed. With regard to Lee Wallace I was thinkin more as a player who would maybe play 10-15 games next season, easing him in as a replacement for Papac, who I believe will leave at the end of next season. Just a thought.

Steven

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09 Jun 2011 23:07:23
I think that we should definitely go for Alan Hutton because he was great at Rangers and if he came to Rangers I think he would spend the rest of his career here because he is only 26.

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09 Jun 2011 22:38:01
i would like to see sevilla's Alejandro Alfaro, good young winger, pace to die for and ways in with a good few goals, he has been on loan at tenerife for 2 seasons. good to see him down the right with wylde down the right.

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Wylde down the left i mean, , , idiot haha. also available on a free

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Lets hope wylde isn't first 11, he is not good enough

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09 Jun 2011 22:19:05
would sell whittaker if we get more than we paid

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I hope we do mate

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Why would u get rid of whitts do u watch rangers

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09 Jun 2011 22:09:14
Don't have a source m8 would just like humberto Suazo and jelavic up front would be some fire power.
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aww klkl suazo and jelavic wld score at least 50-60 goals between them in the spl lol , but i forgot to say in my previous reply suazo was on loan at zaragoza and the agreed price was $US14mil and now that zaragoza didnt buy theyve raised his price to $US25mil (thats what wikipedia says) so i think hes out of our range would be an awesome coup if we got him though we can always dream :D
RR1873 WATP!

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09 Jun 2011 21:53:35
ed i have sent 5 viable posts in the last week and for some reason none have been uploaded. Why exactly is this?

{Ed010's Note -Good evening, I will do my best to provide reasons why posts do not appear on the website. The website administrator has strict rules governing what can and cannot be uploaded and the following reasons are just a few of them. Posts that use derogatory, defamatory or sectarian language are automatically deleted. Posts that contain one letter or one word responses are also generally deleted but not if the answer is in response to a direct question. Posts that suggest fans of other clubs should go back to their own team's pages are automatically deleted. Posts that ask for a "source" are deleted but original posts that provide a source, are quite acceptable. Finally and this is the most common reason, posts that cover the same subject matter are checked and the best two or three are uploaded and the rest are deleted.

Unfortunately, without you supplying an email address or a nickname, with your posts, which is something you are quite entitled to do, I am unable to confirm which posts you are referring to. If I were to suggest that your next post contains a copy of your question shown above, followed by your new comments, I will ensure that the question is deleted before publication, should your new topic matter be published. Cheers Ed10

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09 Jun 2011 21:55:39
Zander diamond is on super ally's radar! Will be signed from under the noses of hearts!

I'd rather sign Neil Diamond! We're supposed to be building, not destroying!



massive celtic fan!

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I'd rather sign Ann Diamond!

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09 Jun 2011 21:46:01
just some info on Humberto Suazo. i wish we would sign him but it does not look very likely.

On 8 January 2010, he left Monterrey and signed for the Spanish club Real Zaragoza[11] on a loan deal with an option for Zaragoza to buy Suazo for 10 million euros. He made his debut for Zaragoza in a 0-0 draw against Xerez at La Romareda stadium.
As of the 20th of May, 2010, Suazo's card still belongs to Monterrey and its worth has been raised to $25 million, provided that Real Zaragoza does not make valid their option to buy his card at $14 million.

Wikipedia

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09 Jun 2011 21:18:08
Mc gregor
Whittaker Bartley weir/culler papac

Davis. Mcculluch naismith. Conway

Jelavic. / lafferty or goodwillie

All we need fellow bears straight to the point

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Not bad but surely greg wylde is just as good as conway, we need someone with a bit of flare and skill to create chances. im hoping for a big name midfielder, god knows who though.

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09 Jun 2011 21:15:58
Jonny Evans is Rangers through and through he's only 23 and played alot of games for Man Utd because he's good enough. His wages are alot aswell nevermind the transfer fee we would need to pay. Only way we would get him is on loan and I'm not sure that will happen. Maybe he'll come at some stage in his career.

NO SURRENDER JONNY EVANS. lol.
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So what's the point of your posting, that he's not coming to Rangers? I thought this site was for rumours about who ARE coming to Rangers.

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09 Jun 2011 21:08:26
Ed what about rangers signing mads junker and humberto suazo would be a great striker what do you reckon.

{Ed010's Note -I watched a lot of the Eredivisie on ESPN this past season and Mads Junker was one of Roda JC's best players. He has a tremendous career goals to matches played ratio and I have my doubts whether Roda would want to lose him.

Humberto Suazo is a player that I know by name only so I cannot pass any judgement on him.

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09 Jun 2011 21:06:27
To the guy who said can't wait got Steven Whittaker to go speaking complete nonsense, he has been brilliant for rangers he has played in all positions and is a excellent penalty taker, if Whittaker was played in his best position which I think is right midfield he would be getting a lot more goals.

I have been a big follower of him since he joined and I think defiantly what we need to try n keep at ibrox.

Wasn't that when he stuck the penalty away against Celtic when no other team mate would !!!

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Here nutjob every1 allowed there opinion an for mate he cant defend for toffee an thats what his job is poor at crossing an goes on runs inside his own half when he shd be passing it and always loses it wow he scored a pen against celtic he also got sent aff against them get a grip

K

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Mate I have been a season ticket holder for 29 years I have seen loads of players come in and out I know people entitled to there say which is %100 correct but I think when a player is played all around yhe pitch how can you critisize some1,

9-10 people back Steven yes he got sent off but have you thought why because he was one of the players that was pushing unlike several others that night .

My mates daughter goes out with a guy who has a estate agents in London and seemingly arsenal were looking at him Xmas time ??? As he was approached for a flat in London for a certain Steven Whittaker I believe that he is one of our vest.

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To the guy that said arsenal where looking at steven whittaker At xmas ha ha ha u havin a laugh he is mince think u are talking through a hole in your arsenal

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Whittaker cost us 3 old firm games first when he, as per usual was caught out of position when he thot he was a striker when kris commons scored in the 2-2 draw in the cup.then he did the same for the first 2 goals in the 3-0 defeat at the piggery and then he got needlessly sent off in the 1-0 defeat in the replay of the cup match

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I heard they were up to, but they were watching Jamie Ness.

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09 Jun 2011 21:03:48
Hopefully Bursaspor will come back with an acceptable bid for Whittaker as he is useless at right back and cost us 2 old firm games"

Whittaker has helped win us more games than his mistakes have cost us. He is a great, versatile attacking defender. We need his pace, his penalties & his crossing. If we sold him, I'll bet our replacement would be Ricky Foster.. I hope we DON'T sell him.

Wilbert RFC

WHITY i would say is one of the best players at us with the ball at his feet.good control, good crosser, penalty taker, odd mistake now and then

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STEVEN WHITTAKER has good control, good crosser and one of the best with the ball at his feet? you must have a better seat at ibrox than me or do you sit in the smoking section. most of the time whittaker runs with the ball the only person he seems to beat is himself and everytime he crosses the ball he hits the defender infront of him and don't get me started on the cutting inside and dragging the left foot shot wide. HE IS HOPELESS AND I WOULD DRIVE HIM TO TURKEY MYSELF

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Ricky Foster has proved this season that he is an awfull lot better than whitty

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Kirk Broadfoot should be fit for the start of the season so if we sign foster he will only be backup but either way they are both better than Whittaker

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09 Jun 2011 20:21:39
Scott Kay from Man City, is young and Vladimir Weiss said that he was a big Rangers and Man City fan. :) I don't know if he's good but he's a Gers fan that's a fact.

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So hes about 16 17 cos wiess 20

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09 Jun 2011 20:20:22
Jonny Evans is Rangers through and through he's only 23 and played alot of games for Man Utd because he's good enough. His wages are alot aswell nevermind the transfer fee we would need to pay. Only way we would get him is on loan and I'm not sure that will happen. Maybe he'll come at some stage in his career.

NO SURRENDER JONNY EVANS. lol.

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09 Jun 2011 20:09:34
just so every1 knows he cant be the next lionel messi as hes older than him? really he would have to be younger to be the next lionel messi?

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Get a life

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09 Jun 2011 19:59:53
My bro just picked up Roy Mackay in airprort taxi and took him to Murray park.
How old is he?

{Ed010's Note -36 and retired since 2009/10 but he is working for Feyenoord helping with the kids

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Why do people keep saying that there bro/uncle picked players up in taxis at airport when gers send cars stop posting bs

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09 Jun 2011 19:52:08
Think the larondo rumour is a good one as I think this lad is gunna be a top player, I like to watch all the italian 2nd division football so u can c wat players r gunna shine and he's defo one and would b an excellent signing. Think ally should move quickly and sign darren pratley from swansea, just said he wants a new challenge and is able to leave for free as his contracts up. Would b an amazin signin to play alongside davis and I think moralez will come too n tht will b our midfield.

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09 Jun 2011 17:42:20
These are a few realistic targets for the CHAMPIONS:

(DEFENDERS)
Bartley - Arsenal (loan/1-2m)
Wilson - Liverpool (loan)
Evans - Man U (loan/2-3m)
McGregor - St Mirren (250k)

(MIDFIELDERS)
Eagles - Burnley (2-3m)
Wanyama - Germinal Beershcot Antwerpen (around 1m)
Bedoya - Obrero (around 1m)
Vaughan/McGugan - Blackpool/Forest (free/free)

(FORWARDS)
Rojas - Olimpia (250k)
Hemed - Macabbi Haifa (free)
DJ Campbell - Blackpool (1.25m)

New deals for McGregor, Whittaker, Davis, Lafferty & Weir. First four on long term deals and Davie on a one year contract. Keep Bougy and make him see out the remainder of his contract. I believe we should wait until the end of the upcoming season and get Carlos Cuellar on a free. This is because he is out for 3 months through injury and would cost between 2 & 3m.

Ed, what do you think?

TRUEBLUE96
WATP

{Ed010's Note -Personally, I think that it essential for Ally to tie down as many of the players, who have performed wonders for us, over the last few seasons. I just hope that Rangers "reward" these players for their hard work and endeavour and are not miserly in their offer. I do however have a worry about Davie Weir. Obviously, he cannot go on forever and every game that he plays in, could be the last game where he is able to maintain an acceptable level. I think that Bougherra will leave this summer and Cuellar would be a great replacement.

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Ed10 we do need those players signed up but we still need players in he shd be doing both


K

{Ed010's Note -K, you have the arguement all to yourself my friend. I wholehearedly agree that we need to enhance our squad, both in number and in quality. I was merely relating my view, that for as much as Davie Weir has been a tremendous servant for us, he is one game away from his coaching badges and that is not a situation that Rangers need.

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Eagles had his chance to come but turned us down so why give him another chance to come? I only want players who want to play for us

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09 Jun 2011 18:45:25
Maxi Moralez's pace would rip up the SPL turn Celtics big dumplings inside out. A 24 year old up and coming Argentina international along with an already strong squad and hopefully a bench that will be strong would be brilliant.

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Maxi moralezs ure having a laugh what a player and rangers could not afford him 20 million easy

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09 Jun 2011 16:18:00
To the guy who mentioned the following - striking target number 1 is Roque Santa Cruz, number 2 is Nicklas Bendtner. What planet are you on? our debt has been cleared and we have around £5 mill to spend. That wouldn't cover either of their wages alone!
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to the guy who said we have 5 million we have 12 million do your homework before posting s**t
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at least 12 million he said

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We still cant afford them and bendtner is sh*te wouldnt want him anywhere near ibrox


K

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I think the guy who did the first reply was correct with the £5m. When did he say 12m. Announcement was £12m in total made up of £5m for the squad, £5m for working capital (not for players) and the rest for improvements to capital.

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Both are pants anyway

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09 Jun 2011 16:33:16
"09 Jun 2011 15:40:44
Hopefully Bursaspor will come back with an acceptable bid for Whittaker as he is useless at right back and cost us 2 old firm games"

Whittaker has helped win us more games than his mistakes have cost us. He is a great, versatile attacking defender. We need his pace, his penalties & his crossing. If we sold him, I'll bet our replacement would be Ricky Foster.. I hope we DON'T sell him.

Wilbert RFC

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He is one of You're best players by far, i can see him being captain in the next year or two.

Would love to see him back at Easter Road one day.

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I agree with u whittaker is a very bad defender dont rate him at all get as much as we can for him and run


K

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Well said wilbert, I completely agree big Whitaker was has shown an imense attitude towards his game sin e he came to the gers, he has played in every position asked of him and has never once moaned about it. Fair enough he might have had a bad game against them but one game c'mon get yer heid oot the clouds pal we wont be able to find a player as versatile as him.

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Please get rid and lets get a footballer to play the position for a change

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Was it noy whittaker that was the only 1 that scored aginst sporting lisbon 2 put us through

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09 Jun 2011 16:17:09
To the guy who mentioned the following - striking target number 1 is Roque Santa Cruz, number 2 is Nicklas Bendtner. What planet are you on? our debt has been cleared and we have around £5 mill to spend. That wouldn't cover either of their wages alone!
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to the guy who said we have 5 million we have 12 million do your homework before posting s**t
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actually the original poster is right, the 12 million includes 2 to be spent on the stadium and the other 5 is essentially an overdraft for wages, so perhaps you should do your homework before criticizing others.

GovanFR

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Clearly mate u are also wrong as it I'd 5 million pound but there is 7 million pound more there for when McCoist decides his targets so in my world 5+7=12

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09 Jun 2011 16:15:12
Hopefully Bursaspor will come back with an acceptable bid for Whittaker as he is useless at right back and cost us 2 old firm games

Did he? The Scottish Cup game where he was sent off for winning the ball in a tackle? I could also say; McGregor cost us the January 2nd game by coming off his line. Davie Weir cost us the 3-0 game but then again is it not a team game? You win and lose as a team and Whittaker has played virtually every position in that team last season. He can go but I would want a good few million.

GovanFR

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Cany believe people are abusing whittaker aye hes had a few dodgy games but who never that season, hes been so valuable ye can play him anywhere

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Wit ????? Whittaker has been one of our most consistent players for the past few seasons . Does my head in when we ( fellow Rangers fans ) slag certain players off . This team of overage and under fit players have brought us the league title for the past three years , for me not one of them have cost us anything as the last post says we win as a team and lose as a team . So for someone to say Whittaker is mince and cost us this and cost us that doesn't wash with me .......

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I think the knockers are not watching the same games as us pal. Whittaker has put in good performances at home and abroad and more importantly he is still improving. Yorkie Bear

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09 Jun 2011 16:06:08
To the guy who mentioned the following - striking target number 1 is Roque Santa Cruz, number 2 is Nicklas Bendtner. What planet are you on? our debt has been cleared and we have around £5 mill to spend. That wouldn't cover either of their wages alone!
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to the guy who said we have 5 million we have 12 million do your homework before posting s**t


we dont actually have 12 million, seen so many people saying that, if you read craig whytes letter to the share holders it says 12 million but 5 of that is to go on up keep of facilitites, non player wages and other minor things throughout the year. so we have 7 million to spend

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09 Jun 2011 15:47:55
i would love to see culler back in a light blue jersey, he didnt want to leave in the first place. ed do we know how ally got on in argentina???

{Ed010's Note -Ally was in Argentina checking out local talent who have been referred to him by scouts. I am sure that he has came back with dossiers on several players and only time will tell whether he follows up on them.

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09 Jun 2011 15:32:26
celtic to sign world class striker to play alongside there already world class strikers ! samaras hooper stokes murphy & the target is craig dargo

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09 Jun 2011 15:19:30
I cant see us signing Carlos Cuellar as the Birmingham Mail states he has just had a operation and will spend the next 3 months in rehab.That means he would not be available for the Champions league qualifying stages.

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He would miss the start but should be ready by the end of August, I think we will still sign him and I feel the need to point out I said we would go after him back in March and was criticized for it.

GovanFR

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We ave no chance of getting him simple as that

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09 Jun 2011 14:35:56
seen rangers representative andy dickson at a table in blythswood square with tom scobbie from falkirk and another man in a suit, surely we cant be signing him?? hes pish

i played with tam at falkirk pro youth and spoke to him on monday, hes not signing for rangers, he is taking part in a rangers charity event along with a few players from other teams. sam parkin from st johnstone is also doing it.


it is a charity event, for the kids homes, every team in scotland are putting a player in for it

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09 Jun 2011 13:28:50
"Naisy to QPR for 1.5m"

Pull the other 1 m8 , as it stands , except from big jelavic , Naismith is our best player.

Since hes broke into the 1st team hes cemented his place in the starting 11 and is now probably the 1st name on the team-sheet.

To sell him to a club leaps and bounds behind Rangers would be a catastrphic deal!

I feel Rangers will sign a few free agents , and possibly spend about 4 or 5million on 2 players.

Also ... could this be the summer Rino Gattuso finally keep his promise and pulls on the mighty gers top again??

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Naisy is at least a £3-4 million

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Naismith would not be sold for anything under £6 million. He is under a long term contract and is one of our best players.

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09 Jun 2011 13:28:16
Yohan Benalouane is a central defender who Rangers looked at last summer when he was at Saint Etienne before he made the move to Cesena in Italy.
Rated by Smith, so chances are Ally might fancy him too

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09 Jun 2011 12:23:50
This isn't rumour really but would like to see bougy used in a swap deal for either bartly or cueller. Ally shouldnt try to convince him to stay cause if a players heart is else where he doesn't deserve to be a bear. Bougy came to us as a nothing we made him into something but back in england he'll be a nothing again. People need to stop the dreamland rumours such as berbatov coming and that. As the current state of scottish football stands the only players we'll attract is players that want a stepping stone into the EPL. Plqyers might want champions league football but they also want high wages. Ally will sign players that him and walter spoke about. Walter would have gave him ideas to help him out in his 1st season.

Roll on title no 4

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Are you serious? Carlos saw the pound signs and jumped ship to the EPL now he isnt getting a game he decides he wants to come back to Rangers, and the same goes for Wilson. Keep them both down south. Bartley would be welcome back and go for another center half. Berra would be a good choice for myself.

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In response to the above.

1. Rangers accepted the bid for danny wilson due to the financial constraints.

2. Carlos Cuellar had the minimum fee release clause in his contract met and everyone knew that we wouldn't hold on to him for long.

3. Christophe Berra are you having a laugh? he's that good that as soon as wolves dropped him they started winning games and stayed up.

so were you saying that Ferguson left for the money when he came back?

Are you saying that about Miller?

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The original post is right, in a business sense we should focus on players that want to use us as a stepping stone. But we should also have players we intent to keep long term. Cuellar left because he wanted to get into the Spanish squad, now he knows he won't he may come back. Wilson IMO left because he was a daft young player who jumped at the chance of a big club without thinking that he would never play. It would have made sense for him to go to Liverpool and be loaned back to Rangers for two years until he was ready for the first team. I hope we don't sign Berra.

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Carlos wanted to play for his county! he was told he wouldnt do that whilst at rangers so he made a choice to better his career!! you cannot blame a player for havin ambition and on top of that he had a min release clause!

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09 Jun 2011 11:53:02
To the guy suggesting Cuellar aint good enough for the english premier league. Cuellar is a centre defender NOT a right back thats why hes had a tough time at villa. Just another example of a good player moving to england, played out of position & getting a hard time for it. You lot are all so much stuck up down south so you are , think your league is wonderful.

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Completely agree, they think their league is the best in the world. It isn't the Spanish league is far better, football is outstanding over there and played in the right way. The English national team is a good example; the English media lead us to believe that Terry, Lampard, Gerrard are world class but they obvious are not as good as Xavi, Iniesta, Ozil, Ronaldo, Messi etc. The English league is a well payed one, it doesn't make it the best.

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Spannish league is nowhere near as good as the epl spannish league is a 2 team league an they were banners at deportivo sayin not make it like the spl FACT

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Again, people are being brainwashed by the media if they think the EPL is the best league in the world. And thanks to the person who made the valid point about the English national side who AGAIN struggled against a 'supposed' inferior team in Switzerland. Is the message not sinking in yet...every world cup and Euro the English pundits tip England as the favourites? Why would they be favourites, how can they be? Anyway, let's not rant on when people believe what they want anyway. Fact is that Cuellar didn't even do that badly at right back, he is a very good defender and is most definetely good enough for the EPL, but I would definetely take him back and I don't think it's out of our reach either. Oh, by the way aren't most Leagues 2 team leagues... Italy= Inter and AC, Spain=Barca and Real, ENGLAND= ManU, Chelsea.....
Ger93

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09 Jun 2011 11:48:14
maxi moralez is estimated to have a market value of £4.4M
source:www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/maxi-moralez/profil/spieler_30687.html

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Don't go by that website, at the end of the season Scott Brown was the Highest valued player in the SPL.

However, I think it will cost us a few bob for this lad. I reckon £3.5m

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We've proved we aint scared to pay big bucks for a quality, young player who we could make a profit on (jelavic) so i dont think 4.4 mil wld put us off if we rated him as highly as ppl on here beleive!!

namba

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09 Jun 2011 10:49:28
Team 4 Nex season

Mcgregor
Whittaker Cuellar Bougy Papac
Naisy Davis Mculloch Weiss
Jelavic Lafferty

Subs
Alexander
Bartley
Broadfoot
Ness
Conway
Goodwillie
Hemed

WATP, Think Lafferty will get a chance 2 partner Jela from the off. opinions pls

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Lafferty got to start up front with jelavic and given a chance to shine hes grown up a lot over the last 6month. now playing in his prefered position. scoring for fun and fans still are not happy. never complained when played out of position and more than that he was happy to do it. i want to see what this partnership can do he loves the jersey and has something about him dont get me wrong thats not to say he should be automatic choice because there should be competition for all positions big rab by the way

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09 Jun 2011 09:38:26
just spoke to john fleck this morning about 9 oclock in a wee paper shop in the city centre. i asked him if hes expecting to get a proper chance this season and he told me that mccoist has told him that this is his season to show what he can do, not major news but thought i would pass it on. just hope its true becos i think there's a really good player in him, i think he just needs a bit of confidence.what do yous guys think ?

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I think we should try playing fleck in the middle of midfield, he hasn't enough pace for a winger and not a great finisher to play as striker.

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Why would he be in a paper shop in the city centre at 9am when he stays in in Knightswood?

Im sure Knightswoods got paper shops.

A

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I think flek is about as good as Colin Nish!!

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John fleck is in Antigua :S

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09 Jun 2011 09:07:44
@blu bear

The rangers circular has been released to the shareholders which shows in part III 1b the following;

The Rangers FC Group has undertaken to provide £5,000,000 for investment in the playing
squad.

Craig Whyte is under no obligation to spend any more than this.

It is also interesting to note that Rangers debt has not been cleared, instead it has been bought over by Craig Whyte's company formerly known as 'Wavetower'.

Until such time as the debt acquired by The Rangers FC Group is either waived or converted
into equity, if the Club suffers an insolvency event or is unable to pay its debts as they fall, the
debt acquired by The Rangers FC Group shall be deemed to be increased by an amount
equal to the amounts contributed by The Rangers FC Group as set out in paragraphs 1 (b),
(e) and (f) above.

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I think if you had any brains at all you would all have researched this properly then realized that the debt has been cleared. what craig whyte is saying is that he has set the finances up so if hrmc taxes that life clean outta us he wont be left with a bloody nose

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Thought as much wait and see no chance of any decent money coming in to Ibrox Jelavic only guy worth any money contracts have run down on the rest of the team every player should get a significant rise as they have done a good turn over the last 3 years I see trouble ahead for WEE SALLY NO FAT CONTRACTS ON OFFER 2 PLAYERS IN AT PARADISE USUAL SILENCE AT IBROX PUT MY MORTGAGE ON US BEING CHAMPS NEXT YEAR LETHEPEOPLESING

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Can people not understand whyte buying rangers and bankrolling it through one of his companys means.if the worst comes to the worst.craig whyte will just owe himself 18 million quid..the guy owns rangers and the company that bought them

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The debt has not been cleared, it has been bought over by the company formerly known as wavetower which is owned by Craig Whyte.
Rangers are stilll in the same financial position now as they were before the takeover. The 18 million debt will be waived or turned into equity ONLY if Rangers win the tax case. If they lose the tax case then Craig Whyte will be owed the 18million plus whatever else he has invested. Rangers have protected assets ie season ticket sales for the next 5 years so when the tax bill is served it means that other assets can and will be sold to pay off the bill and the monies invested by Craig Whyte.

If you sir had a brain you would realise that noone in their right mind would gamble 18million with the likelihood of a massive tax bill landing.

These are facts, not rumours.

{Ed010's Note -Thanks to all who have posted in all the individual threads that were started on this topic. It has now run it's course and it is now about time for the subject to be closed and so, as of now, no further posts will be published on this subject.

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09 Jun 2011 08:19:36
Thank God, Chris Burke signed for Birmingham, pheeew.

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09 Jun 2011 04:26:25
"Are you serious? Carlos saw the pound signs and jumped ship to the EPL now he isnt getting a game he decides he wants to come back to Rangers, and the same goes for Wilson. Keep them both down south. Bartley would be welcome back and go for another center half. Berra would be a good choice for myself."

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Pretty sure Cuellar left becausehe wanted to break in to the Spanish international squad and was told he wouldn't have a chance while playing in the SPL.

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Come back carlos, all is forgiven. Would be a great first signing for Super Ally.

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And to boot, martin bain put a clause in his contract that worked a buy- out, did he not?! also, where are people getting this maximiliano guy rumour from?

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The carlos deal was done with a move to the EPL in mind hence the release clause he ha in his contract gers were aware of this so was carlos obv. He was told that there was no way he could get into spain squad whilst at gers regardles how well he played so he had to to fullfill his dreams..... those dreams have changed as it is unlikely he will break into spain squad... so instead he is eyeing up a move to the team were he felt his happiest and enjoyed the best football of his career.

Ugly betty id take u back in a heartbeat son.... twice the defender boughie is (not as good goin forward tho)

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Cuellar needed to be sold to enable Rangers to strengthen their squad. Rangers had just lost to FC Kaunas, meaning we had no champions league revenue. Rangers sold Cuellar for roughly £8 million, about the same we would get for playing in the CL, and then bought Bougherra, Davis, Mendes and Edu. It was not all down to Cuellar wanting to leave.

I hope the rumours about him coming back are true; he is the best defender we have had in recent times.

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People for get the cullear money bought us miller bougy n mendes wrked out well if u ask me

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09 Jun 2011 02:30:11
Rasmussen things rubbish lol, but I actually want him to leave Celtic rather than stay because I think he's a great goalscorer and would have done well at Celtic given the chance. He's a natural goalscorer and if he got a chance to settle he could have been a really good player for them and he's only 25-26 so will be hitting his peak.

i agree rasmussen is a born goalscorer and when the septic sighnd him thought he was their answer to boydy i'd take him in a heatbeat

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09 Jun 2011 01:38:21
Alot has been said about bougherras leaving and the cuellar thing and Bartley and wilson , but does anyone sorta hope to see the bougherra cuellar partnership if boughy stays one more season ? I wouldn't mind tht atol . Ed ?

{Ed010's Note -These are my thoughts based on the players that you have mentioned. I can't see Bougherra being at Rangers next season, so Cuellar and Bartley would need to be my prefered centre back pairing. Taking into account, Cuellar's recent surgery, he would not be ready for the start of the season, so Danny Wilson would have to take his place. Although Wilson and Bartley are young players, they do have quite a bit of experience and would do well for us.

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Bartley Wilson and Cuellar when he reaches fitness. Bougy keeps believing his own hype and thinks he's gonna go down a storm down South. Big opinion of oneself after an average season at best.

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I would love a Bougherra and Cueller parntership, and I am hoping mccoist can convince Boughie to stay, after all the transfer speculation surrounds him every window. I would be happy to let him leave for nowt, the guy, although a bit of a liability sometimes, is sheer entertainment, and he gives the fans something a bit different.
With Boughie and Cueller and Mcgregor as a back bone, I think We would possibly make it into the Last 16 of the Champs League or do well in the uefa. But if a lucrative offer from EPL comes in for Boughie, He'll be off :(

Would like the team to be, with backup on the left

My Wish list (Emphasis on Wish)

McGregor - Alexander
Papac - Wylde (or even Broadfoot)
Whittaker - Broadfoot
Cueller - Bartley/Broadfoot
Bougherra - Wilson/Broadfoot
McCulloch - Hutton - Edu
Davis - Ness
Naismith - Fleck
Moralez - Wylde
Jelavic - Lafferty
Hemed - Goodwillie

I can't believe Rangers fans are being so negative regarding Wilson, Boughie, and Cueller. They all had their reasons for wanting to leave, valid ones at that and no-one can deny their quality. I would like to see a young quick Right back come in as back-up for Whittaker too, even a loan signing

Rikkisixx (looking forward to the summer madness)

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Bougey should play defensive midfield if he stays.Where he played for Charlton.He can use his rampaging runs to better affect then.And get back into posistion when he is caught up field.

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Good point there mate, of course only if he stays ;)

Rikkisixx

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09 Jun 2011 03:33:48
To make it to all of u people. Ally has no less than £12m and whyte has put a couple million aside for club repairs I hope I made it a bit more easy for u all to understand

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Would have been without the missed words. The guess work means it remains pretty unclear mate.

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09 Jun 2011 00:12:29
what about this
McGregor
Whittaker Cuellar Bartley Papac
naismith davis Mcculloch moralez
Jelavic goodwillie

not a lot of change in the first team i know, but the bench would be stronger than its been for years.
Alexander
weir broadfoot, possibly wilson
conway edu wylde ness
lafferty,
we need another forward, not sure who? would love to see santa cruz,
add possibly johnny evans

Just my thoughts, feel free to comment

Dorrans instead of Moralez

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No mcculloch in middle. rather give ness his spot. the rest are decent enough shouts. Think lafferty should get his place beside Jelavic for first few games atleast though based on his last 10 games of the season.

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Instead of edu ian black or frings or MacArthur

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09 Jun 2011 00:10:56
Also headlines of back paper tomorow:
''McCoist-''im comming for you!'' on Cuellar (Daily Record). McCoist has made it clear he wants Cuellar back and is in talks with the new manager.

How do all you guys know what is going to be in the papers tommorow

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I don't know personally, but I think everyone is getting sources about papers and that on facebook mate.
WATP

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Probably the early editions, used to get them when working nightshift.

BigGordi.

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08 Jun 2011 23:57:13
GIOVANNI DOS SANTOS, GOOD CHANCE OF SIGNING ON LOAN. HAS BEEN LOANED OUT FEW TIMES BEFORE AND IS A GREAT PLAYER WHO COULD COME OFF THE BENCH AND BRING SOME ENERGY AND STYLE IN THE SECOND HALF. ALSO WOULD CREATE GOOD COMPETITION FOR STARTING POSITIONS.


ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT A LOAN MOVE FOR VLADIMIR WEISS AND HIS MAN CITY TEAM MATE ABDISALAM IBRAHIM ?

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Weiss will not be back and who can blame him (or his controlling father who is blocking any move back to Gers). How many times last season were you screaming from the rooftops "Why won't he bring Weiss on" or "Why is he not starting Weiss". Daddy is looking for a spanish club for him. Maybe a club who are not afriad to play him and believe that attack is the best form of defense aswell.

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Dos Santos is quality saw him in the world cup.Thought he was on a free though.And his contract was set to run out?Would be happy with him on loan.And try to get Eremenko to.Both would add the silk that we need in midfield.

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08 Jun 2011 23:54:28
does any 1 have an idea on how much ally will have to spend this summer

blu bear

12mil m8 :)

cheers m8 that may explane how we can afford to go 4 the boy fay argentina he looks a player. lets hope we can persuade him to come to the champions
can any1 put a price tag on this lad as he looks as if hes going to be an expencive player. also so does the lad hemed he can bang in the goals for fun by the looks of it on youtube. i also think we should try and get ledley king on a season long loan deal i no hes injurie prone but a think he would be worth a gamble if we can get him at the right price

{Ed010's Note -This thread is being switched over to the banter page and any further updates can be found there. Cheers Ed10

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09 Jun 2011 03:07:57
09 Jun 2011 00:04:56
does any 1 have an idea on how much ally will have to spend this summer

blu bear

Craig Whyte said to pledge £12 million

12million but 5 of that is to go on wages, up keep of facilities and other stuff throughout the season

my thought on the deal was david murry waved away the remainder of his £5 or 6m that he got after the £2.8m tax bill, as long as whyte invested it in ibrox upgrades to the facilities ect. correct me if im wrong

blu bear

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08 Jun 2011 23:48:06
SSN Rangers are now undergoing talks to keep Whitty, great I think he is a terrific player and a great lad
You must be a celtic fan or on crack

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08 Jun 2011 23:46:53
Ceuller to Rangers thank God as he's not good enough to play in the prem and cant hack the pace but after only 1 season with you guys you all seem to love him so hopefully you'll get him back cause he cant get in the villa team after 3 seasons has gone stale

ha ha I detect a bitter cellic fan ! Aye you stick with big missallavic cause he is right gid !!!

just to say the only reason that Cueller never "hacked" it is because he was out of position at right back! and if it is a pathetic celtic fan.... he is much better than any of your defence!!

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No just a Villa fan who has watched him play rubbish at centre back and right back for two seasons and then he couldn't get on the pitch this season as he just ent good enough so with all blessings have him back so we can get a decent replacement

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08 Jun 2011 23:45:58
08 Jun 2011 22:12:07
Ceuller to Rangers thank God as he's not good enough to play in the prem and cant hack the pace but after only 1 season with you guys you all seem to love him so hopefully you'll get him back cause he cant get in the villa team after 3 seasons has gone stale

s of January 2011 he has made 97 appearances and has scored 3 goals in all competitions he was first team when he was fit m8 gotta love celtic fan that try and put a downer on every thing we do just because they can stand the fact they had a chance to kill rangers off in the last 3-4 year and failed they were found wanting in all competitions were as rangers punched well above there wight

4 in a row here we go
w.a.t.p

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08 Jun 2011 23:45:15
When people post on this site its because of rumours they have heard, stop all the "i doubt it" and "no chance" rubbish. its called a rumours page. . not a fact page!

but a rumour is something you have heard not just made up like half these people do on here with there stupid so called rumours

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08 Jun 2011 23:43:26
Rangers Ins:

Defenders

Evans - Man U (loan/2-3m) - (boyhood fan and with jones arriving he has been pushed further down the pecking order)
Bartley - Arsenal (1-2m) - (surplus to requirements at arsenal)
McGregor - St Mirren (250k) - (one for the future)
Wilson - Liverpool (loan) - (LFC see him as one for the future and want him to gain some more experience and match practice.)

Midfielders

Wanyama - Germinal Beerschot Antwerpen (1m) - (young defensive midfielder)
Bedoya - Obrero SK (1-2m) - (young attaking midfielder)
Vaughan - Blackpool (free) - (doubtful as both sunderland and WBA are interested)
Eagles - Burnley (2-3m) - (turned us down last season due to wages and wanting to gain promotion.We have the money and they aren't good enough for promotion.)

Forwards

Rojas - Olimpia (250k) - (young with a terrific goalscoring record with national team at all levels)
Hemed - Maccabi Haifa (free) - (good all round player, also being tracked by numerous Italian teams)

I think we should wait until the end of next season to bring back Carlos Cuellar as he is going to be out for a few months through injury and I believe we could get him on a free instead of spending 2-3m.

Also I would wait on Goodwillie's court case being sorted before buying him. If this goes well he would be a great signing as he is a true ger.

We should keep Bougy until his contract expires.
McGregor, Whittaker, Davis and Lafferty to sign long term contracts.

WATP - 54 N COUNTING!

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Ideally, January would be best for Cuellar, but I fear if we wait, there is interest from Spain and we may lose out. Might not be the best solution short term but will be worth it, when fit and playing well, he was worth £8M and we can pick him up for a fraction of that at the moment. He was worth his weight in gold when played at CB, and if you remember, almost single handedly carried us to the UEFA final in 2008.

BigGordi.

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08 Jun 2011 23:38:06
Not a rumour but who do you guys think is our best player?

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For me it has to be stevie Naismith no other player was as consistent last season. Second choice would be mcgregor kept us in a lot of games

Willie

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McGregor and Jelavic, Jelavic would get us a higher transfer fee but McGregor is world class. I can't decide between them, they are both class.

GovanFR

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I know many people will disagree but in my opinion Lee McCulloch is Rangers best player. He is one of the only midfielders that will will make a challenge, he can play the ball well on the ground but also can supply a good ball over the top. He has proved that even as a centre mid he can put a few goals away, has a strong head and can crack a shot. Reminds me of Barry Ferguson, and i think he would make a great captin.

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I agree with the McCulloch for captain idea, but I don't think he is our best player.

GovanFR

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08 Jun 2011 23:34:24
what about this
McGregor
Whittaker Cuellar Bartley Papac
naismith davis Mcculloch moralez
Jelavic goodwillie

not a lot of change in the first team i know, but the bench would be stronger than its been for years.
Alexander
weir broadfoot, possibly wilson
conway edu wylde ness
lafferty,
we need another forward, not sure who? would love to see santa cruz,
add possibly johnny evans

Just my thoughts, feel free to comment

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One of the things with having such as small squad, was that every player was getting a chance. If we had 5 CBs then one would not be playing, as far as cover goes I think we need to look for players who are happy to sit on the bench. One rumour I heard was Mark Reynolds, I don't think he is particularly good but maybe as fourth choice.

GovanFR

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08 Jun 2011 23:34:20
I know what people think about el hadje but I think he actualy done ok for rangers, I think closing season he done well coming on for us, I watched him at tge games home and away for us thought he held ball up well. Not a forward but defo a holding midfielder.


I said the same thing a few months ago on another Gers site about EHD at midfield and got lambasted saying I don't know anything bout footy. I think he should have played insted of Edu while Big Lee was out.

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Interesting idea, he could be an ok holding midfielder. A lot of that role is positional sense and just playing short tidy passes. If he can tackle then maybe.

GovanFR

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08 Jun 2011 23:34:17
08 Jun 2011 22:12:07
Ceuller to Rangers thank God as he's not good enough to play in the prem and cant hack the pace but after only 1 season with you guys you all seem to love him so hopefully you'll get him back cause he cant get in the villa team after 3 seasons has gone stale
is that the same as shaun maloney who couldnt last a season if a 41 year old can win spl am sure carlos can too

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08 Jun 2011 23:30:35
Craig Whyte said to pledge £12 million

was it not £20 million over 5 years...

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Just so you know the £12 million the papers speak of is not all in the playing squad. £5 million for the squad with a further £5 million overdraft available. The rest is the £1.7 million to be spent on Ibrox. This is fact, it was in the statement to the shareholders.

GovanFR

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