Rangers Banter Archive May 08 2017

08 May 2017 21:33:47
As you all know on here i've always been a massive fan of barrie mckay! I really think if pedro plays mckay behind a striker or strikers, in the no.10 role, then we'll see the best of him there! Make no bones about it guys, barrie mckay is a talented footballer who imho, would excel playing in the hole behind the striker! He honestly could be our messi in a free role!

Thoughts fellow bears?

08 May 2017 21:46:54
Give him a free reign behind the strikers and he would thrive, he gets frustrated on the wing when he can't beat his man and has to cut back all the one.

08 May 2017 22:06:11
He is creative, however, has he got the heart to play inside? He hates tackles .

08 May 2017 22:59:47
Will need to get some strikers first

08 May 2017 23:25:03
I said play mckay in a no.10 role on here months ago and got slated! Now all of a sudden its his best position? I know we all pretend to be managers on here but when you're suggesting something after some one else did?

09 May 2017 08:28:05
barrie has raw talent that's about it, keep him and sell him on for 500,000 in a year is our best bet. unless he has a good year ad does ok in europe.

09 May 2017 08:58:44
No doubt mckay has talent i would like to see him play with better players, better midfielders and strikers who have the ability and awareness to make clever runs and passes and link with mckay

09 May 2017 09:32:36
Yes both Mackay and Dodoo should be starting. Both quality with pace and can finish. Just as Roberts/ Forrest and Sinclair start for them, McKay and Dodoo should be in for us.

09 May 2017 09:42:30
Dunoonbluebear, before accusing anyone of stealing your idea of where barrie mckay should play, i suggest you look back my posts to easily a year ago when i stated where i thought barrie mckay should play, ie. "THE NO.10 ROLE", behind our striker (s)! I'm quite sure the ED will back me up here, on this one! I've continually said on here that mckay would be terrific in that position!

09 May 2017 11:55:07
Lads, mckay had one moment of class in a season where he has been very poor. Why all the hype? Fair enough if he starts to show class consistently. He has been dreadful all season. God, I'm sure someone compared him to davie cooper as well. Lol.

09 May 2017 11:58:54
Our messi? Haha

09 May 2017 13:52:41
Warburton drilled it into him that he had to play as wide as he could (mostly on the left) that leads to what we already know:

1) he's not involved in open play anywhere near enough that we need to him

2) when in possession he's crossing with his left foot.

He needs to play centrally for me and to not test him there would be a shame because we all know he has ability, it's just finding the best way to utilise that ability. Two examples spring to mind, the game at the weekend because it was the most recent example. Some touch from a long ball, good skill and composure to finish from a central position and then the goal against them at Hampden last year. He's our number 10 for me without doubt, if he's played as a number 10.

09 May 2017 23:11:40
McKay has to toughen up and learn how to tackle first, personally I'd cash in on him in the summer anything between 1&2 million and I'd sell him far to inconsistent for me

11 May 2017 03:27:17
jackunion.

where have you pulled 2 million from?

he doesn't een start for the worst rangers side in history?

08 May 2017 17:24:51
He has been around a bit but that might work in our favour. He knows other leagues and might find us some diamonds in the rough. He is a strange character but then who cares. We need to try and sell a few donkeys and bring in quite a few more with quality. Time will tell after summer but I for one am quite optimistic about next season. 2nd place and build for the future. There is no quick fix here so be patient bears and the green shoots are hopefully on the way.

08 May 2017 17:54:35
D'hell you on about.

08 May 2017 18:23:37
Be good if you put a name who the fek is a strange character yerself 😂

08 May 2017 19:09:59
I was thinking you were building suspense by describing the guy then going to say his name at the end😂 and it better only be blue shoots on the way, none of this green nonsense

09 May 2017 08:29:37
i think he means pedro, but he is wrong. ped clearly doesn't have a wealth of experience? he's had a few jobs and no done much.

however i do like the optimisim and he considers us the worlds biggest club so he's ok in my book

08 May 2017 13:56:14
I think a lot of us have been a bit harsh pointing the finger at pedros team selections being poor.

What i've just realised, and saw on FF, is that we're due to play the first qualifier for the Europa League on the 29th June, which means the transfer window isn't open and we'd have to use our current crop to negotiate an away tie first before being able to use any new signings.

Must be the reason we're seeing persistence with the usual suspects, plus we've got to put them in the shop window.

08 May 2017 14:23:47
In Scotland the transfer window opens on June 9th., so Pedro has to have his targets all tied up and ready to sign immediately. If he has to go into the qualifiers with the majority of these wasters in his team we won't be in Europe for long!

08 May 2017 15:12:31
Usual suspects? Who else can he possibly play? And no, I don't coincider our youth players a viable option to come in all at once and replace most of the team.

He plays the hand he is dealt at the moment and at the same time has the chance to determine if any of these players has some fight or interest in the club about them, hopefully he can see that they don't for the most part and is supported to make the required changes.

08 May 2017 15:59:38
I stand corrected TOMUSA, thankfully.

08 May 2017 16:40:20
Super Ally, let's just hop and prey that we see some quality arrivals very quickly after the Transfer Window opens!

08 May 2017 23:02:15
Surely Forrester can't be any worse than the jokers that are playing. Not saying he is the answer but he has shown more than Windass or Waghorn.

08 may 2017 11:57:17
Question for a poll. Would you like to see sir david murray back at the helm of Rangers?

{Ed033's Note -


David Murray poll

08 May 2017 12:08:06
if he brings his 150 million to the table, of course.

08 May 2017 13:16:53
Why would anyone want Murray back at the helm? It was him that started our fall from the top.

08 May 2017 13:42:27
He may have badly mismanaged our finances but he also gave me some of my greatest football memories with the signings of Gazza, Laudo and ball hair from the european cup final etc so whilst i'm disappointed where it all eventually led! would I change those memories! . absolutely not!

08 May 2017 14:29:06
I blame the Bank of Scotland more than I blame Murray! That and this fictitious Tax Case where Rangers were targeted. I want a Rangers team that is winning the league and I want a Board of Directors that want only to be successful. I just don't see that with King in control and for that reason alone I would take Murray back so long as he was committed to the investment needed.

08 May 2017 14:46:33
How exactly did we end up in trouble in the first place and landed with white, green and then the fat man stealing our merchandise. Plus as it stands Dave king is wealthier than sir nae legs, before he'd invest for players he'd need to buy in and I don't see him using half his money on us. I personally don't want him near us we suffered for his bravado and we we were in the bottom tier he was still living it up if we are to get someone they are going to have to have deep pockets to fulfil the expectations of the punters and that is not David Murray.

08 May 2017 23:09:42
TOMUSA

Sorry but Murray is to blame for what happened. He lied about putting his own money into the club and he made more out of the EBTs than anyone else. He promised he would only sell to someone with the clubs interests at heart yet he sold out to one of the biggest chancers in the country. The board warned him about Whyte yet he still sold the club to this fiend. Murray played a big part in our downfall and he has quietly slipped away. If there was any justice him and Whyte would be sharing a cell in barlinnie however I doubt either will be brought to task for their part in the fall of Rangers.

08 May 2017 10:24:47
Now that European football has been achieved, there should be more youth players given a chance ahead of next season.
The remaining game are needed to embed a tactic that will work for next season, that being said I liked how he changed formation during the game and went 343.
This shows that he does have a plan B when things are not going well (however we did end the game due to injuries back to a 4231).
If Pedro keeps to a 4231 we need two midfielders who are not easily knocked off the ball and who have good positional sense.
Also need a player who can play behind the front player, personally I think McKay would be great in that role.
Also we can't play Dodoo or Waghorn on wide positions as they are not wingers.
We need wide players to take their man on and get crosses in the box, something we didn't look capable of doing until Kenny stepped up.
My fear is signing players who Pedro knows but they will not be able to adapt to Scottish football.
I look forward to next season, but I have to say that we will not challage for the title (I hope I am wrong) .
Best will be 2nd place with a much closer challenge to them.

08 May 2017 11:54:02
How can we develop a tactic for next season when we don't have the players for next season? Surely the new players are required first? Yes young players should be given game time.

08 May 2017 14:31:29
Pedro and the Board need to have as many of the signings agreed as possible before the transfer window opens in June and then the signings need to be completed on June 9th so the players have some time together before the first Europa Cup Game. Otherwise it will be embarrassing.

08 May 2017 23:36:30
Ideally season after next we can mount a title challenge. No chsmce next year. Next year target 4 me is stop dropping the daft points in non of games ie take at least 90% of points off bottom 7-9. The BIG away games be more competitive ie hearts.

09 May 2017 00:04:47
The youth team didn't exactly do that well in the development league so what makes you think they are ready for the top league? Which ones would you play?

08 May 2017 09:51:32
All this guff about us celebrating like we won the champions league etc, WHY THE HELL NOT? We just secured european footbal for the first time in years, we just came back from one nil down against a team that, dross as they may be, played us off the park! I love to see that passion and all these daft arse celtic fans slating us for it, GET A GRIP,

{Ed001's Note - that bit I edited out was not funny, it was offensive, give it a rest or be banned.}

08 May 2017 10:20:18
Ok Ed my apologies, i don't usually do that just a bit angry lol won't happen again

{Ed001's Note - I did have a look through your other posts and it was out of character, hence why you got a warning rather than an immediate ban. Not sure why you are angry though, you should be celebrating, as a team that got promoted last season and immediately qualifies for Europe the following season. Not sure why anyone could find that anything less than a major achievement! I know people will go on about it being Rangers and they should do better, but I think they need to get their heads out of the clouds. Remember Juve only finished in 3rd in their first season back after promotion and they had managed to keep hold of arguably the best goalkeeper of all time to help them!}

08 May 2017 10:30:54
I don't know i guess its just frustration after such a poor season and we finally done something good and we still get put down, anyway its bad and i have taken it in sorry again, it has been a great achievement as you pointed out and i just let the blood flow to my head, cheers ed

{Ed001's Note - ok mate.}

09 May 2017 00:09:06
Ed

Losing 5-1 twice to Celtic and losing 5 games out of 6 to them is unacceptable to Rangers fans as is being nearly 40 points behind them in the league. Finishing 3rd in a poor league having had far more investment than Aberdeen is no achievement

{Ed001's Note - it hurts to lose to your biggest rival, but unacceptable? If so you need help. They are miles ahead of the rest of the Scottish league and you have to learn to accept that in the short term, because any short term plan to catch them will just end up making even more of a mess of the club you support. If you know so little about football, that you think coming third in the league, the season after you are promoted, is not an achievement, then you should just not bother watching it mate. It doesn't matter how much investment you have had, building a team takes time. You might think the pull of Rangers would bring in players, but it won't bring in the better players, as they would just look and see a promoted team trying to build a side. So you end up with players who are either not very good or have not fulfilled their promise elsewhere. Stopgap players basically. Everyone else will, in the main, be wanting to stay clear until you are established in the top flight. You have to remember your investment is into a team from the division below, not a top flight team. So you are starting off with a worse team, so investing more is only equalising the situation, not taking you ahead of them.}

08 May 2017 01:37:32
A see some many people saying givevuputj a chance etc, you would be ****ing moaning if we would have lost. All round terrible performance. All this paper talk Bruno Alves, Ped's needing a hardman for defence. There's no way he will sign for us. Just like so many players out there. I know where we start by off loading this pish of a team starting with Waghorn ending with Fods. I'd love to be optimistic and say next season we'll b a different team but really are we? King going to plummet millions into us? Maybe even attend our games? I read the Boyd article on David Murray. As much as it pains me to say but we need to help from Murray if not all. He owes it to us the fans and Rangers. I'm all for giving Ped's time so hopefully writing and seeing better posts next season!

08 May 2017 09:35:31
Fod keeps us in most games, why on earth would we sell him? Here murray, we know you ****ed up first time but fancy another shot at killing Rangers?

08 May 2017 11:39:57
I can't see Murray helping us out in a million years so we are just going to have to get on with it I'm afraid. That ship has sailed. King either needs to lengthen his arms or shorten his pockets otherwise celtic could be out of sight for years to come.

08 May 2017 23:39:01
True, fod makes some great saves, but he is by far the worst 1st choice keeper we have had in my near 40 years of watching rangers. True we have had worse like ginzburg but he wasnt first choice. At least 4 of last 7 v celtic he could have done a lot better. He constantly loses goals when shot is straight at him. I would keep him for next season as would concentrate on outfield positions but fod is not long term answer. Makes ian Andrews look like goram.