Rangers Banter Archive March 08 2015

08 Mar 2015 19:45:01
Hi lads, new poster so be gentle, i've been watching the site for months so thought it was time to join in.Saw today on another site that talks afoot for a new 16 team league next season because Sky say they need Rangers and old firm games to compete with BT sports.This means top 4 teams in Championship going up.Any thoughts.

08 Mar 2015 20:13:22
Makes sense from a broadcaster's point of view, but could the spfl be able to adjust their rules in time? For cash the answer would be yes, so if the broadcaster wants it they will get it. Good post mate and good luck with the responses.

08 Mar 2015 20:33:55
Gogs t I've not looked at it yet, but surely if sky want to compete with bt then surely they hsve go to give more money to scottish foorball, the money we get compared to the english, phew, its amazing, to english games on tv draws more money to thrre league than we get for a full season, sorry if for any spelling errors ime using a tablet while my ipad gets fixed, .

08 Mar 2015 20:58:43
May be a modicum of truth to it but wouldn't welcome it (this year) as it'll just lead to warranted criticism from all sides about fastracking etc we can do without. We go up if and when we earn it, if not this year then next year.

08 Mar 2015 21:59:55
Can't see it happening this year. Imagine the field day the media would have stirring up the Rangers fast track notion. Though the way things are going we'll be lucky to finish in the top four!

08 Mar 2015 21:52:27
Can't seei t! The reaon we can't compete it's England is erm sky! Oh and those that love o kick us would have a gild day. We will get there in our own right nd will catch the other lot sooner rather than later. Not seen it but by all accounts today showed how bad they really are!

08 Mar 2015 22:05:11
Spart7 yes mate, I posted on here the othe week that ide rather get back to top league under our own steam, but let's be honest mate its the tv companies that pull the strings in regards how our leagues are structured in thąt they know what's best for viewing figures.

08 Mar 2015 23:03:51
The way it looks Sky won't up the money without Rangers and the old firm games.Time will tell.

09 Mar 2015 01:14:27
With This rumour and Lawwell banging his gums about his lot better out of the current TV deal,, is there something going on here. I hope not sporting integrity and all that.

09 Mar 2015 09:25:01
Yeh stefreid a draw at tanadice showed just how bad Celtic are, just a well we weren't playing cowdenbeath, omg pms, your a scream, do you actually read your posts before you send them .

09 Mar 2015 11:10:17
Well I think MY MOB are the best Scotland has to offer by a good bit but average in Europe, but your Mob are a very poor second tier team . Is that about right?

09 Mar 2015 15:42:06
The good thing is next season our 'mob' is going to be changed beyond all recognition, probably miles better with the right management team in charge and the right people at the very top. Your 'mob' will lose most of your good players and bring in.??
We'll see what the difference is then, shall we?

09 Mar 2015 16:55:30
That won't last much longer, as well u know

09 Mar 2015 18:00:54
Lads it's a pity your clairvoyant skills were not put to good use when, Whyte and green were filling their pockets . Who knows if you will even be in the spl next year, even dk says it will be a long hard slog for you to get back to being the second best team in Scotland.

09 Mar 2015 23:59:06
Fab why are you so bothered about our progress.

08 Mar 2015 19:01:08
I honestly believe that McDowall, with McCoist hovering in the background, is the biggest hindrance to our progress. McDowall should be put in the Beech Grove garden beside McCoist and an interim manager should be put in place, hopefully to-morrow. Another couple of bad results puts us under total pressure. I believe that Ian Cathro should be approached with a view to looking after Auchenhowie, with Stuart McCall appointed interim manager. For next season I would introduce Megath to the staff as football director with specific responsibility for youth development. I know it means more outlays but we need to turn the corner.

08 Mar 2015 20:35:52
Ian cathro has a very good chance of being our new head coach mate, cathro has said in a recent interview that his next job will be him being his own man but also stressed it must be a job & challenge that suits him

08 Mar 2015 22:05:43
Aye it's McCoist and mcdowells fault our board has been shafting us for 3 years it's there fault jfk died its there fault we can't live on Pluto it's there fault Celtic drew today.

Give it a by with the ally and Kenny bashing they are crap managers we git it no need for people to bring it up every day.

08 Mar 2015 22:10:57
Mr Tennent enough. Can I suggest you stick a name on every number of a roulette wheel, have a spin, and tell us who's name comes up. I am going to throw caution to the wind and take a leaf out of your book, I think ANYONE could get the job.

09 Mar 2015 06:49:40
Ceexxx, Yes the board ripped the ass out of things but our football is the worst in our history, and I can assure you that has been poor at times, yet these two have been the main contributors to that fact. Yet, you feel that is down to the board. Look at the budget that was available and the salaries they got and tell me your happy with what is on show. Blame where blame is due and that lies firmly on their shoulders. For us to progress they must go and go now.

09 Mar 2015 13:13:05
Billyb I agree with both your posts above mate, ime dying to find out the full extent of the damage done since charlieboy got involved.

08 Mar 2015 18:35:45
please remember the words of the new board. They don't want a manager, they want a good coach, someone who can develop young talent. That should rule out quite a few so called candidates.

08 Mar 2015 19:30:04
According to reports Warburton and Weir are packing in Brentford in the summer. By all accounts they are coming to Ibrox. Sounds good. I'm sure the great unwashed or the BBC will manage to dig up some dirt from somewhere

08 Mar 2015 20:40:51
Noddy, I heard that also mate at the game at central park yesterday, have to admit they'd be fabulous appointments and would fit the description that dave king has stated he's looking for in the next rangers manager

08 Mar 2015 21:14:58
Noddy there not reports Brentford are looking to replace Warburton with some Spanish coach next season,

08 Mar 2015 21:49:34
The guy has done some job at Brentford. And he can spot a good young player. I expect big Davie will have filled him in about life at Ibrox. This is the type Mr King wants so the appointment would be a good fit for everyone. I also like the sound of Cathro. But first things first - let's try and get Walter in till the end of the season. Do it now Mr King. Now!!

08 Mar 2015 22:07:09
Warburton will have his pick of clubs down south why would he want to come to this shambles? We don't have the pull we once had

09 Mar 2015 09:02:27
Warburton is fed up with football, he is heading back into the family business.

09 Mar 2015 17:26:35
Aye good one lol

09 Mar 2015 17:27:43
We'd be left with the Usual Suspects then, KeyserSoze?

08 Mar 2015 16:06:14
Rangers manager!

Right guys, a lot of names have been banded about and a lot of rumours passed.

But I don't want rumours, I want opinions!

Who do you think will become the next rangets manager?

(Wondering who tennant is going to pick)

I have already stated my preference by I actually think the board will hire ally McCoist or Stuart mccall

08 Mar 2015 16:13:34
Derek MacInnes.

08 Mar 2015 16:14:09
I fear you could be right on mcoist, he and DK are friends, it would certainly save money,

08 Mar 2015 16:28:52
If McCoist is back in, surely we have enough of a share of votes to call an EGM.

08 Mar 2015 16:42:41
Would be hilarious to call an EGM for the removal of McCoist after the applause he got at the last egm but not many fans would support such a resolution me being one. I would give McCoist the chance to finish the job he started.

With a money, proper coaching, youth and boardroom support structure I believe he would succeed.

His tactics leave a lot to be desired and his team selections but he took the reigns at the start of the downward spiral. Give him the job!

Although I would prefer cathro

08 Mar 2015 16:53:28
To the original poster, if you read any of my posts you would know that billy davies is and always has been my no.1 choice

08 Mar 2015 16:57:27
Let me get this straight his tactics and team selections leave a lot to be desired according to yourself but you would give him the job again that doesn't make any sense, the new manager needs to be a brilliant forward thinking coach with fresh ideas because the days of us spending millions on players are gone! That rules mccoist out in my opinion,

08 Mar 2015 17:01:25
L3mst3r, are you for real mate, you want mccoist back as manager and state in your post that the downward spiral started before mccoist got the job, I think you better start looking into mccoist's reign as rangers manager from the start until he was placed on gardening leave, mccoist is and always will be a glasgow rangers legend as a goalscorer, as a manager he's not got it simple as that, you're post is totally baffling mate, contradictory as one minute you want mccoist then you prefer cathro!

08 Mar 2015 18:03:08
From a footballing perspective and way forward I would take cathro any day.

But I think McCoist deserves a chance to finish what he started. I don't think he ever got the chance to fully take the reigns and build his team. His tactics and team selections did leave a lot to be desired but what other tactics can you play with the current crop of players? They can't pass the ball about and remind me of the old scotland team that lacked confidence. He did indeed bring in those players but with a limited budget for players he decided to bring in top level players who should have gave a lot more. Would he have signed the same players if he had money and a scouting department? Probably not. If he had players capable of playing a Spanaish passing game would he loft it upfront? Probably not.

I just don't think McCoist is the cause for most of this and is made a scapegoat.

Call me optimistic and loyal but if ally got given a second chance I wouldn't complain, the team have struggled without him, the house is being built and I honestly think if he was given funds, a scouting dept, a coaching structure and a boardroom In harmony and was supportive I think it would spill out on the field as well.

08 Mar 2015 18:19:52
No manager will ever be good enough for rangers fans they are actually moaning faced gits. Before matches have even started they are shouting abuse at players. No wonder half of them don't want to be here

08 Mar 2015 18:33:02
the downward spiral all started when McCoist blew the 15 point lead over Celtic, . It's a no brainer!!

08 Mar 2015 18:49:19
Did you say limited budget? 2nd biggest budget in Scotland he had at his disposal, every player he signed deteriorated under his fantastic coaching ability, law, Shiels, daly, boyd, Templeton, Clarke, and even the much maligned black all become worse players under him

08 Mar 2015 19:23:48
Looks like a done deal - Warburton and Weir

08 Mar 2015 20:50:19
Noddy, if you don't mind me asking mate, who told you that its a done deal for mark warburton & davie weir becoming the new rangers management team mate?

08 Mar 2015 20:53:26
Again I find myself in total agreement with what hooly 78 has posted above, great reply my friend & very good post, plenty of reasons why mccoist shouldn't be back as manager, a good in depth answer!

08 Mar 2015 23:02:07
The thought of ally taking over again even till the end of the season gives me the boak, what's the point, why put him back in, Kenny is having the same effect on the team and he hates being in the job ffs time for change.I would have Davie Weir and Neil McCann if possible.I understand it might be hard to get them right now butin the long term iI think they would be a perfect fit for us.

08 Mar 2015 23:36:27
whos tomorrows tip JR?

09 Mar 2015 00:27:19
He did indeed have a limited budget. He might have had the second biggest budget in scotland but this is in terms of wages only.

Ally had no money to actually buy players so the only option was free signings and low cost players. Only celtic has the budget to provide what we Rangers fans expect. So having this limited budget he decided to go out and recruit proven top level players, which makes sense to me.

Then when they come to rangers we find them deteriorating and becoming further away from top level players every passing game. You can't "coach" good players bad. A good player will always be a good player the only other variables would be confidence, the squads harmony he is playing in, the other ayers in the team and the tactics. I have already said his tactics left a lot to be desired but what wae can you do when you have a team that's more scared of losing the ball than confident of keeping it?

I don't think for one moment ally is the best manager in Rangers history. I just think he hasn't had a chance under normal circumstances. These players got sucked into Rangers decline and are in a rut. mcD also finds himself under the hammer. Don't forget when he took the reigns the club had lost it's cement holding it together since admin, but also their best player (Macleod) when Macleod was injured last season they had the same slump in form (albeit we had a big enough gap and we were still scraping points)

Another point, ally McCoist did lose that famous gap to celtic. He gained it when we were not in administration and blew it when we were.
So ally didn't have a big a budget to go out and strengthen his team with your cifti's, Stuart armstrongs and Gary MS's.

08 Mar 2015 14:07:59
Ah the old can't find fault in his argument, so I will question his right to be here manure, I go on a lot of sites and post alternative views to posts I disagree with, In the real world it's called banter. Just like ten past one in the afternoon is not first thing on a Sunday morning . Don't you feel it's refreshing to get an idea of what people think outside of your insular wee blue world, on second thoughts don't bother answering that one, lol . Have a lovely day I'm of to watch the Scottish cup qf, be care full you don't accidentally talk to any of those horrible time your old ma used to warn you about.

08 Mar 2015 14:20:56
Sorry ed must have hit the wrong button, this was actually a reply to tommy51 further down the page 😊

08 Mar 2015 14:36:10
Come on our site if you want. but A Celtic fan giving it "it's always somebody else's fault" is hilarious
seems as if that's the Celtic mantra, whether it's crowd trouble or not taking your medicine from Uefa(Which you should be used to, let'face it). only it's always the ref or poor wee Juan Guy's fault, innit?

08 Mar 2015 14:55:19
Mmmm, it would have been a half clever argument, if you had got it right, you will have noted I posted and I quote, " first thing on a Sunday afternoon " doh! Bet you feel a fool now eh? Your first smartass statement falls down hohoho, and blame? Do you not think that the tens of thousands of Rangers fans know who is too blame? It wasn't them or the players, it was crooks, we don't need you to tell us anything. Why don't you have a read ayt one of your Davie proven, in today's paper,? Have a bad AFTERNOON m8

08 Mar 2015 15:31:38
Lani this is the type of myth I'm happy to come on and help clear up, where, other than in your blue tinted imagination, have you seen anyone say the guy with the Celtic scalf on standing in the Celtic end at the inter v Celtic game with a flare wasn't a Celtic fan . Now if you want to debate how much danger a flare really is or why they are allowed at other games and it goes unpunished, that's a different story, but for you to claim we are saying it was anybody else's fault other than the one fan who did it is rubbish. As for for blaming the referee for defeat, I don't think I have heard Ronnie claim this on any occasion. Did he think virgils sending off was harsh, yes .so did the vast majority of fans both Celtic and other wise, did he say it contributed to our defeat, yes because it did . Did he say this was the only reason for our defeat, er no he said the reason were out is our defending in the first leg . As for blaming heavy handed police tactics for a minority of crowd trouble at away games well yes it was a factor or was it only a factor when you play in Italy, Spain, Romania, Holland and least we forget Manchester to name but a few.

08 Mar 2015 15:47:47
Most of us are not interested in Celtic mate, it is just a myth constructed by Celtic fans, in an attempt to deflect their own obsessive disorder. One side is as bad as the other though, deal with it. I believe your team may be playing today. I am watching Living Daylights.

08 Mar 2015 16:25:51
Fabbydabidoo, u seem only able to defend everything septik yet you accuse Rangers fans? What planet are you on m8, we all know both clubs have a very unsavoury element, always have, in watching bits of your game now, all I've heard are Republican and terrorist songs, don't you hear them? Or will u have another smartass riposte, just like earlier, you seem to think you are the doyen of sense, you are part of the problem pal, maybe Sunday you will wake up and realise you have your own team to worry about, who yet again have van dik sent off, brown was the real culpret though you won't admit that

08 Mar 2015 17:32:41
Maybe you are forgetting Dundee, Motherwell and Lincoln. not in Europe, but you guys(or Juan Guy)did a number on them. and you are serial offenders in Europe, so heavy handed policing or not, it doesn't seem to stop you. and you complain about refs pretty much every time you lose in Europe(mainly because Euro refs won't accept what you get away with in Scotland. ). Turin, Utrecht, Seville, et al. a typical generic "your worse than us " post. but it's official, you have been done by Eufa more than us. well done.

08 Mar 2015 17:54:40
Absolutely not forgetting any of these incidents, and totally agree we have some absolute idiots on both sides but you have again ignored the point I made in my post, which is the myth of us blaming everyone else for our teams failings, everytime we were put out of Europe this season it was because we were not good enough not because of referees, as any Celtic fan will tell you .But the majority of rangers fan are foaming at the mouths about the injustice of what has happened to then but the reality is you have had plenty of chances to buy into your club and change the course of events but never bothered your arse, before Murray sold the club and after, so you have no one to blame but yourselves.

08 Mar 2015 18:17:29
Two things mate, didn't ignore it, and it's not a myth. we'll see how the reaction goes to Big Virg getting emptied again, and Dundee Utd's penalty. and if you think "any Celtic fan" would not implicate refs in their defeats this season, maybe you should read your own forums.and if the actual events around our admin and liquidation were self driven, we have plenty of reasons to be angry at the reaction and feeding frenzy that followed. Davie Provan, Kenny Dalglish, and other non-Rangers personalities back that view up. better late than never, and it'll be good for your mob as well, as even Lawell admits(2years after saying that they didn't need Rangers).

08 Mar 2015 23:48:56
It is poor downtrodden Celtic now and it will always be poor downtrodden Celtic they thrive on it it is a big part of what that club are about and we as rangersfans should get used to it(they are very good at using it)

08 Mar 2015 12:36:45
Players that have been rotten for months can't suddenly find another gear.Although McCoist deserves almost as much grief as the outgoing board for his part in what happened, the players have been consistently dire, even when we were winning. but we need, in my opinion, to go up this season. so why not ask Walter Smith to fill in? Never his biggest fan(too many awful European performances on his CV), but he's probably only man who could do it, while board looks for long-term appointment.Man management was always Smith's strength, rather than tactics or strategy. he might be able to get these guys to get us over line in play offs.

08 Mar 2015 21:06:14
Lani I also think walter smith should be asked to maybe get us premoted, but I wonder if even he could drive this lot on.

08 Mar 2015 11:46:23
I think the team have no heart, we need to play Gallagher, gasporroto and more of the young players that want to make a name for themselves not has beens that are after 1 last deal . if we play the youngsters they will give you %100 and we would win more games than we lose

08 Mar 2015 12:19:35
I can't believe people on here wishing mccoist was still manager he is the one that brought all these overpaid duds to the club, he is responsible for not playing the young players over the last 4years, he was the manager when hearts where so far ahead of us in the league on a fraction of the budget he had, so I for one would never want him back in any capacity to do with the club!

08 Mar 2015 14:35:52
Even a 3 or 4 goal win would have been ok but a goalless draw with the manager stating he was happy with the work rate. shows the gap and sums everything up.

08 Mar 2015 16:53:52
Damo66 most of us are in favour of using the youngsters, the problem with that is most of them are out on loan eh, they will do a good job next season, but most of our support myself included would prefer to go up this season its only since our board changed that I would like to go up to top league, and that's only because mr king and the new board are going to spend money on new players, as before, ashley and his board were not interested in spending money they wanted to take take, take, without spending on the team or the club ie stadium, etc

08 Mar 2015 08:14:38
If by some chance Mr.King you read this listen to us and replace McDowell he hasn't get the guts or heart for our club get in a decent name with the credentials and let's get promotion I'd rather be second or third in spl than winning this league.

08 Mar 2015 09:57:25
OK, I agree Mcdowall is a lump a wid, but he's not to blame for the lack of guts and heart from the imposters wearing the shirt on the pitch.These are players looking for new deals in some cases!All this talk of Ibrox being full to the rafters on Tuesday?well I won't be there.

08 Mar 2015 11:26:47
We need ta patient the guys are only in the door the noo give them time afta suffering. Fae the last 3 years a wee while longer isnnae gonny harm.

08 Mar 2015 11:51:53
Support the new board that didn't last long, one game in and some people deciding they won't be at next game typical of some LOYAL fans.
r.f.

08 Mar 2015 12:41:36
I've supported the board rager face, but not paying to watch non-tryers.

08 Mar 2015 13:16:45
And if everyone has your opinion and doesn't turn up how are the new regime going to fund the changes .they need as much help possible or it will be a case of still scraping the bottom of the barrel for free transfers .King himself asked the question, are u willing to help by turning up, outside Ibrox on friday and the response was deafening ., We all know the team have'nt got it but funds will be needed and the more we the fans pay by turning up the more for the rebuild .
r.f

08 Mar 2015 13:43:37
Ill be paying for the grandkids season books, so ill be contributing.We need to go back I agree, the kids and my son will go on Tuesday, but I personally can't watch that mob right now.

08 Mar 2015 14:03:19
Glad to hear it gkk but get yourself along too the more tickets sold the quicker we can start to change things it must hurt u not to go, u know u want to.
r.f

08 Mar 2015 00:45:42
Cant believe what i'm reading. McDowel defending our players, saying it wasnt through lack of effort. Are we now at the stage where 0-0 away to Cowdenbeath is acceptable aslong as the players appear to work hard? Get a grip, get someone who'll get the players in and kick them up the arse and stop protecting them. 10-0 last week! I don't care if they defended for 90 minutes, we should still be taking 3 points. Unbelievable Jeff.

BTW - i'm pretty sure if coisty was still in charge we wouldn't be this far behind. Perhaps we jumped the gun there and should have waited until we had a suitable replacement lined up, rather than a coach who doesn't even want it.

08 Mar 2015 01:30:30
I agree. Bad as it was at least Coisty had some passion, tactically clueless though. Kenny does not want to be in the position and, in fairness, can understand. He was pushed into a position he was not ready for (doubt if he ever will be) and like most of us, he still has bills to pay so regardless of anything else, he needs a job. He is well aware of the mess the club was in when he stepped up and he knows, like everyone else, the players are not happy, the fans are not happy and the previous board and the new board would not be allowing him to continue after season ends (maybe sooner now). He really has to take the money and rathole it for the future, whatever that may be. His comments and body language are those of a deflated and defeated person. to be more or less happy with yesterday's performance says it all. Jeez, these guys are paid good money to do their only job. Part time players have more pride and passion than this lot.

08 Mar 2015 10:06:19
I can't believe that McCoist is being held up as some kind of benchmark, if just for once he did the right thing for Rangers and not his bank balance we would be able to bring in a real manager. McCoist is an absolute disgrace and should be publicly shamed into waiving his enormous payoff. He is solely responsible for signing dross and partly responsible for the state of the club having allowed everyone to be sacked or made redundant while he was so vastly overpaid, had he walked even 2 years ago he would retained some dignity, but 31/2 years backing every board while the club is destroyed internally and then another year on gardening leave with double pay shows exactly what he is. I have no doubt that when DK looks back over the crooked contracts we will be hearing much more about McCoists involvement

08 Mar 2015 11:47:42
i'm sick of reading posts thatsay McDowell only reluctantly took on the job because he had little choice. Get real guys, he is on 400k and is serving a years notice, he could just as easily refused the job and still have got his payoff through gardening leave, so don't make me laugh.
He took it on because HE thought he was superman, only to realise the team was full of kryptonite

08 Mar 2015 14:52:55
His gardening leave might have gone out the window if he refused. The guy is human with bills to pay and mouths to feed. It's easy to say do the right thing. Ask yourself if you were in a similar position would you walk away (be honest and answer with the brain not the heart). I'm personally in a similar position with my job (oil and gas). I know i'm out in 3 months. If I walk it saves the company money and let's us both move on. However, I am entitled to the three months which I won't get if I walk. what would you do? Easy to make statements in third person but when it actually comes down to you and your family. Not looking for sympathy, I've had a good run and hopefully will pick something up. My point is about remembering it is a job of work with pay and conditions at the end of the day.