Rangers Banter Archive April 08 2014

08 Apr 2014 23:40:10
Guys
If we do complete the leauge without a defeat Ally will think he will have acheived something great.
Yes on paper it look imprssive 34 wins 2 draws.
But what are the statistics for the following:
1) How many games did we take the lead and win by more than 2 goals
2) how many games did we scrape through by a margin of 1 goal
3) How many games did we come from behind and scrape a win
4) How many games did we win by playing the other team off the park
5) How many games did they impress you with their play
6) How many chances is Ally going to get

08 Apr 2014 20:40:56
If mccoist go's ( fingers crossed) do you think mcinnes would leave the sheep for us.

Sadly I don't think either he or Super swally will leave. But agree Mcc the knife McInnes would be a good manager in an ideal world.

At this stage, it would be doubtful. If he has another good season with them, and we can somehow get a third consecutive promotion, he may get an offer. Would any manager want to manage us until we are being run by the right people though?

08 Apr 2014 13:42:10
I'm just surprised that super wally didn't use the excuse that we were beten by a team in a higher division.
''WE ARE RANGERS AND SHOULD FEAR NO ONE''

Super Wally? What are you, 12? Show some respect to a Rangers legend

@ OP that is disgraceful think you meant to say Super Swally. Great striker single fish manager.

08 Apr 2014 13:23:55
Ally McCoist's abject failure as a coach and manager is now irretrievable after Sundays debacle. Most of us saw it coming as far back as those embarrassing European exits before the corporate roof fell in.
For me, the cardinal factor behind the tactical and coaching incompetence is his inability to learn from his mistakes. With a trail of cup exits and an eyesore of a product on the park, even the most limited manager at the lowest level might suss that something is not quite working. Proven SPL players don't perform, wastes of space like Foster, Mohsni and Smith are handed jerseys that should go to promising youngsters, Groundhog Day rules with an ugly long-ball, one-dimensional game plan via a lone striker who has diminished by the week. Yet Ally has neither the courage nor intelligence to at least try a different way. He is living poof of the old adage that he who does not learn from his mistakes is condemned to repeat them. Sadly the fire burning under is playing legacy is now inextinguishable and his only recourse now - and our only route to improvement on the park - is to walk away before every shred of dignity and self-respect is lost. If he is truly governed by self-interest, he is now at the tipping point where his entire reputation is on life support. King or a new Board would have to be literally insane to keep him, never mind entrust him with fresh transfer funds. If we are blessed to embrace an exciting new future, it has to be helmed by wise, experienced professional management.

Well said SLB. I've said since first game against Malmo that he wouldn't do. Optimistically, I thought starting from scratch in the lower leagues would have allowed him to develop a young vibrant and exciting team that was used to winning by the time we got back to the Premiership. But no, we haven't progressed. Cup exits have been financially disastrous. The football has been dire. There is no apparent youth policy, promising young players are being ignored for journeymen. How many hearts sank when they saw a midfield of Black, Hutton and Smith? Who was shocked when Faure came on? We know they are limited and not match winners. So why did he play them? Especially half fit. What's his legacy going to be? He's left us with no system of play, no forward planning, no pride in our play. Poor players running about with beards. Athletic looking? Rangers standards? I think not! Most of these part time teams look fitter and play better football. We have Duds we will have to pay off to get rid. He's paid a salary beyond his capabilities. If you are a true Ranger Ally, walk away without any lump sum. You will earn our thanks and retain your dignity ( crumbled after karaoke). If not you will never be respected if you turn up at Ibrox in the future. I'm gutted. This to me is worse than Berwick, Annan, Forfar. How much more can we take?

Lewis McLeod has been a huge loss but others of his age group from Murray Park should have surely been red flagged and " risked " after we'd won the league. It was almost promised.

It seems going unbeaten in the league became more important - honestly, who cares? - and senior players were preferred and then injured. It goes without saying that an opportunity to develop the youth was lost and senior players risked.

Two own goals conceded by this approach and we're way off the trajectory of where we should be. Why can Aberdeen and Dundee United do it on a vastly lower budget? Courage in their youth. We had the chance.

Can we all be wrong? no. Quite simple he is tactically inept knows nothing but the long high ball to anyone, and has to go asap. However I doubt that he will.

Well done SLB as accurate, succinct and eloquent a post as any I have read on this forum. Couldn't disagree with a word. Well said indeed!

Regardless of future results or performances under his replacement, sacking McCoist will be a huge step in the right direction, then he should be pilloried for the damage he has done and the money he took under false pretences, I hope he will never be able to attend Ibrox again, in my opinion the only status he should have is the worst manager and most hated Ranger of all time.

@2 while McLeod has shown potential I don't agree that he has been badly missed. He played in plenty of games where we were rotten. The boy has talent however he is still learning the game and isn't at the stage where he bosses games. My biggest fear for him is that the manager will waste him. That's all Ally seems to be able to do make players go backwards

@6 it's all about opinions and young Lewis wouldn't have been missed in Gers teams of the past but in this one definitely IMO. No complete stand outs but young Lewis is definitely my player of the year. He has kept his form in a poor team which is probably not easy for a young player but how do we know because we are not used to young players breaking through at Ibrox?

Slb is only stating which most of us knows I remeber him standing with his arms folded during his ill fated attempt on europe its one thing and one thing only that stops him walking away and that's money if he walks away he goes with nothing if pushed he is entitled with his rolling contract to I years money maybe a deal could be worked but I doubt it he is wealthy enough to sit and wait for his money his side kicks would do a deal as hey would need to work but I am quite certain he will not do the decent thing and go his supposed love for the club only goes as far as the next pay cheque when he does which ever way it happens his reputation with the support will be zero a sorry state of affairs because I for one won't forgive or forget

08 Apr 2014 09:46:04
Just heard about this karaoke carry on, priceless. I personally was no use to anyone after watching that dross, absolutely gutted. To cheer my self up I wondered what he could be singing. I came up with Joe Dolche Shuddupa Your Face as he obviously isn't interested in the opinion of the masses. Corny song I know, what others could he have been singing?

Send in the Clowns by Barbara Streisand springs to mind.
Think, 'You're so Vain' may be a good shout too. If that man was chocolate he'd eat himself.

Should have been John Denver's---- Leaving on a jet plane. Wishful thinking I'm afraid.

Thought of another that fits perfectly in song title and band name.
'Money for Nothing' by Dire Straits!
I rest my case

I'm enjoying this wee bit of banter Broxi. Just thought of a couple I'd like him to be singing. Ally is something of a 'Pretender' in my opinion so with this in mind I'll go with a couple of Pretenders tracks I'd like him to have a crack at for his next karaoke session- 'Goodbye' and in refrerence to the dwindling support for him 'Where has everybody gone'

Got another, Puppet On A String

Money for nothing in the lead so far. Not the title but wish super salary would listen to Gloria Gaynor's "go -walk out that door- your not welcome anymore" and do one!

Lads i'v said this months ago, if not then a few years past.
"Pretender" The Foo Fighters.
Might I add, it isn't for the words "never surrender", but about all the pretenders within the walls of Ibrox.

I may be abroad, but Rangers are within my core, everywhere i'v ever been. How can I advertise or shout loud when abroad, about The Gers, when we scrape through games.

My Dad played in goal for Raith in the early 60's, but were both Gers men first and foremost, we all know that Raith's costs have been and are much, much less then ours.

Why can this go on.
Much money, thrown to the breeze, again and again oh and maybe even again, then it could be too late.

Oh god I should have kept that last appointment with my trick cyclist but here we go "Tradegy" by the BeeGees or Steps for our younger viewers like the Ed and Larky

Found our new ally anthem,
Ed look up uncle kracker I'm not leaving, this song fits ally so well it sounds like he wrote it for his next signing.

Still lmao listening to it now.
Please tell me wot u think ed

{Ed039's Note - hated uncle kracker since kid rock collaborated with him, sorry won't be listening)

What about heaven knows I'm miserable now by the smiths or king of pain by the police. first one is an ode to us ans the second an ode tae superswally

What about a threesome, ally/durrant/macdowell singing david bowie's "ABSOLUTE BEGINNERS"

@ 11 David Bowie's Major Tom- "ground control to Major Tom"- the three of them are either on the moon or wired to it but definitely not for football management.

Ed I think the kracker is talentless but
With lyrics like these.

Another cigarette,
Whatever I can get
Everything I left behind.
Pictures of the past
Things that never last,
But satisfaction is oh. It's
A state of mind.

Somehow, someway
With nothin left to lose
The past has got me
Searching for someone like you.

Put another candle in the wind
It's just another thing that I can't fix
Play another game that I can't win
But I'm not leaving it like this.
Maybe I should find
common ground.

It sounds like a talentless let's say singer, and a clueless manager got together and wrote this.

Would def sound better in ally's scots voice. Rangers fans with hands in the air swaying. This would be no 1 in charts for years.

Come on Ed you know you'd buy it.

{Ed039's Note - no I wouldn't lol)

07 Apr 2014 23:26:55
I agree that Ally McCoist hasn't a clue as manager and goodness knows why he is still there. In his defence, when the parachute hit the fan we lost a whole team of decent players, i. e. Naismith, Whittaker, Davis, Bougherra, McGregor, Fleck, Edu, Papac, Jelavic, etc.
At least five of these players are currently playing in the EPL. Having said that, you'd think that the likes of McCulloch, Black, Templeton, Law and Daly, all with SPL experience, would be good enough to win the Challenge Cup. We've won back-to-back leagues at a canter but it is clear that the Championship will be a big, big challenge. Hearts, Hibs and Dundee could all be there. All the teams in Scottish football don't spend anything like the wages paid by the Old Firm so why can't we win the Championship and beat Dundee Utd with what we've got? It must come down to coaching and giving youth a chance too. I've said this several times before on here - where are Lewis McLeod, Barrie Mackay, Gasparatto, Crawford and Hegarty? However, if we are going to sign more players for next season, surely the decisions as to who we sign must be made by someone else? Gers fans have suffered two years or so of pain and humiliation while a very ordinary Celtic team win the league but can't win a cup. We deserve better!

True, honest and diplomatic post DOIGER. Bottom line is the guy has not got the ability to manage a football team. We have over pampered proffessional players on full time wages. With the few bodies that he inherited and the players he has brought, Ally and co. don't know how to play them/ what to look for. He has not got a leader nor backbone to any starting 11. Surely with the coin/wages he has spent his management team could of established a core to work around. His tactics are appalling and MP is excruciatingly under utilized. Is it true they prepared for the Raith game at some luxury hotel? Does MP not have facilities akin to prematch prep? He is out of his comfort zone and sooner rather than later he will lose the dressing room as he is losing the fans. Life could be worse!