Rangers Banter Archive May 07 2020

 

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07 May 2020 20:06:26
Bears, don't get involved with the gutter press narrative. They want you to think Rangers have accused the SPFL of Mafia type dealings. The whistle blower provided evidence at Director level and is quite technical which comes under the Companies Act 2006 and the duties a director has. It may seem trivial to us down here but these are serious accusations and if found to be true they have not one leg to stand on and will go. This is why Rangers are asking for an experienced QC to be involved. One small point for example to not investigate an allegation of bullying is an offence under the HSW act.



07 May 2020 20:45:55
What i want to know is why the silence from the dark side and then again maybe because it’s in pd file they don’t want to know which I find a bit strange?



07 May 2020 20:52:08
The quality of governance provided by the SPFL Executive is at at best incompetent and at worst Machiavellian. The SPFL Executive have a fiduciary duty to its members and their individual and collective actions are not acceptable.



07 May 2020 21:04:16
Why is there such a problem with all the Celtic supporter's in the media about rangers standing there ground. The whole vote has been a sham. They could only vote for one thing and that was to give Celtic the title. It's all very mucky waters with in the spfl. It might not be smoking gun stuff but loads of stuff Doncaster and that other old prat have been telling a lot of lies. If rangers didn't say anything would you accept it? I think not.



07 May 2020 21:10:51
Tinman. Only 3 clubs out of 12 want the season to be played out. Us hearts and the dark side. I can't understand us bringing the sky thing up as we were asking for the money to be paid out and we are now saying we know about the 10 million sky could pull back. I honestly think everyone knows that sky could pull money out at anytime here or england if the season is not finished.

I don't usually agree much with SGL but I think he is correct about our C. E. O who I also don't think is up to the job. He was the 1st to come out and say we shall not be playing without our support so how can he expect season to be finished as there may not be fans at games till 2021.



07 May 2020 22:15:32
Fauldhoose bear, i have stated since the first day he got the chief executive job at rangers that stewart robertson was NOT the man for the job and is way out his depth. We're all entitled to our opinion on him and anything for that matter, but like i said earlier i have good friends in high placed jobs within motherwell fc and he's not got the ability to be the CEO of a club our size! I don't know about your feelings fauldhoose bear on who should replace stewart robertson who we hardly ever hear from, as rangers CEO.

My choice without a doubt would be the current hibs CEO leeann dempster. No wonder that woman has been head-hunted for other CEO jobs in england and of course she knocked back the advances of the sfa top job as she didn't trust it was the right job for her. Now we've got ian maxwell as the sfa CEO, that says it all there! Stewart Robertson imo should be moved on from rangers and replaced with leeann dempster who can lead from the front.



08 May 2020 08:29:09
Right we all get it coop. You don't rate Stewart Robertson.
We all now know you've got a major hard-on for that wifey Dempster. Fine, just no need to go on and on about it.



08 May 2020 10:41:58
Mr grumpy you've got a major hard-on for me pal, i'm flattered! ♥️.



08 May 2020 10:56:20
TJBB. as you are quoting company law. how do you feel about our own md breaking said law by disclosing sensitive and confidential information to his own club in order to manufacture a revolt against the very governing body that he is supposed to represent. also reneging on a board meeting he was duty bound to attend in these difficult times. he could and should be brought to task for breaking company law! But alas that seems to be the Rangers way as of late.



08 May 2020 10:51:22
Jtbb, hear, hear mate.



08 May 2020 11:39:17
Johnny G, stewart robertson is out his depth in the very powerful position of being the CEO of glasgow rangers! He gets caught out with his amateurish statements and doings at times, simple as that! Those who choose not to see/ understand that are blinkered!



08 May 2020 11:59:19
Johnny g, Robertson has broken no law. In fact as a Director and board member he has a legal obligation under the whistleblower act
Despite reports in papers today u cannot be sacked for whistle blowing.
I suspect the area of the actRobertson referred to is “ believe someone is covering up wrongdoing”.



08 May 2020 13:29:20
Spot on John.



07 May 2020 19:05:08
Stuart Robertson on radio explaining dossier .
Handled himself really well . Hinted that is rangers don’t get vote that it may not be the end if it .
Explained that at no time did rangers say spfl bullied member clubs or were corrupt. This was narrative that others took upon themselves to promote .
Rangers said member clubs felt bullied by member clubs
Very interesting.



07 May 2020 19:38:59
Mols, it’s all just a red neck😡😡😡.



07 May 2020 19:51:19
There is statements from rangers with the words bullying in them.



07 May 2020 21:35:17
RANGERS have received confirmation from the SPFL board, that the SPFL’s legal adviser did not deem our Members Resolution as competent.

We prepared this update in advance of the scheduled SPFL board meeting this morning, in the full anticipation that the SPFL board would rule our proposed resolution was not competent.

As a member club, we sought assistance from the SPFL Executive on several occasions yesterday, to ensure our resolution was deemed competent. For the avoidance of doubt, no advice was forthcoming prior to the meeting starting.

Now that the SPFL have belatedly identified the reason why our members resolution was not competent, we will immediately resubmit our resolution, based upon their advice. If this advice had been forthcoming earlier, we would not have lost valuable time in this process. We are confused as to why attempts have been made to slow the progress of Rangers’ resolution.

Over the last 36 hours, we have received numerous reports from fellow Scottish clubs relating to attempts to coerce and bully them into voting for the SPFL’s own resolution. We are proud that many fellow clubs will stand strong and not be swayed.

Our resolution was simply intended to urgently address the financial hardship faced by clubs whilst allowing more time to discuss and evaluate all options for completing this season, in line with UEFA advice. This is in the interest of every football club in Scotland and the wider Scottish game.

We trust that when we resubmit our resolution, no impediments will be placed in the way of clubs voting on this matter in a swift manner.



07 May 2020 22:13:09
Gaslighting from the east end.



08 May 2020 07:53:04
Cxxxxeob. rangers stated that there were bullying from other member clubs to member clubs . They did not accuse the spfl of bullying member clubs . We accused them of trying to bully us but not any other club .

It’s funny that the spfl do not deny any of the allegations in the doc . You would think if there was no truth in it they would be calling for legal action . Think that tells the story .
Yately I am 100 % behind the club and board and I think they have done really well fighting our corner .
If they had done nothing . no doubt there would be loads of people on here saying they were spineless . At least they are putting up a fight and it’s not over yet. Not by a long chalk .
A little faith and support goes a long long way . I remember the same people on here screaming about how diabolical the board is regarding Ashley?
Dosnt look like they have done to bad (regarding that ) now.



08 May 2020 12:02:12
Molsgoals very well put, read my post re Robertson and his legal requirement if he believed there was wrongdoing if u wish.
I would be interested in your reply.



08 May 2020 17:24:47
Yes John I thought it was a great post from yourself, and the more positivity we can put forward the better.
There are enough clowns like Sutton, leckie, Jackson etc who are so eager to pour negativity over our club without fellow bears jumping on the media hype
Cheers John.



07 May 2020 18:28:34
Guys, obviously none of us have read the dossier in full. Fair enough, however you must agree that based on the SPFL's initial response and the comments of the Motherwell chairman, this is not looking good for your club. In all fairness no one outside of your club and it's fans expected it to amount to anything and that appears to be exactly what was delivered.



07 May 2020 18:50:30
So when 2 clubs in the championship report bullying to Doncaster and nothing is done that's okay?
Is it ok to tell uefa the majority of clubs want the league's finished before anyone has voted?
Is it ok to not tell clubs about the potential loss of millions of pounds if the league finishes early? (Potential payments to TV companies and sponsors)



07 May 2020 18:51:50
More guesswork
Give the ckubs chance to read it n see how it pans out.



07 May 2020 19:34:53
mrgrumpy, there is no club that wants the season to be finished properly on the pitch more than Celtic do. We're cantering to the title, we're 5-0 up with 10 minutes to go. Why wouldn't we want it to finish with all games played? You guys are shouting as if it were YOUR club that was 13 points ahead and everyone else was trying to stop you from getting what was rightfully yours.

Wake up and smell the coffee guys, your board are showing themselves up to be amateurs in the footballing world but still you back them and say they're right. Accept reality, that's that's the first step on the road to recovery.



07 May 2020 19:36:01
tilladie, if the other clubs don't back your club on this are you all prepared to accept that the matter is closed?



07 May 2020 20:57:37
It's not about c*ltic hoarder, it's about what the SPFL have and haven't done. Smell the coffee it's about proper goverence of our football league.



07 May 2020 22:07:23
YOUR club voted to end the season NOW, trophy, to accept an unearned tainted title, so how can you say Celtic want to finish the season?



08 May 2020 07:59:56
Tropey. how is it over? Because you say so and don’t understand the mechanics? It’s not over by a long shot . and it will only be over when Doncaster walks and Peter the great has no more control .

People like you believe your own hype . Our case is strong . good and just . The spfl are not sueing us for liable, which makes me think we have a good case for legalities.



08 May 2020 10:54:54
no need to play out any league if it can be awarded.



08 May 2020 11:10:37
Aye Mr Tuo. Where is this crap coming from. They want it wrapped up and handed to them in a pretty bow, which it will be. They voted to end the season early, we didn't. How plain and straightforward is that? Shameful.



07 May 2020 17:53:02
Ed mate what are your thoughts on all this goings on? Hopefully I don't start a riot 🤣🤣.



{Ed001's Note - I haven't read the dossier so I don't have any thoughts on it. I would not listen to what the accused have to say about it, as they have a vested interest in rubbishing it. So I will just wait until it is actually released to read and then make a judgement.

There does seem to have been a lot of underhanded dealing going on, standard in politics and this seems to have become politics rather than football. The problem is that proving guilt is very difficult, even when you know full well someone is. Just ask OJ Simpson.}

07 May 2020 18:08:19
Is it correct what I read that the Spfl didn't receive an official copy of the report, just clubs?
If that's the case, where did they get the copy from?!



07 May 2020 19:06:06
Good answer Ed.



{Ed001's Note - it is just my honest appraisal of what has been going on. English and Scottish football have got themselves into a mess because of the way their leagues are run. Instead of being run for the good of the sport, they are run by the clubs and that creates problems as clubs are looking out for themselves. Sports should always have an independent body setting up the rules and running them.}

07 May 2020 19:35:18
Appreciate you taking the time to give your thoughts ed 👍.



{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate, sorry it is not very informative!}

07 May 2020 21:37:58
this is the 19 page dossier.



07 May 2020 23:36:13
Ed,i 'm in complete agreement with you on sports should always have an independent body setting the rules an running them, proper way to do things imo also.



07 May 2020 17:50:28
Bundesliga

To resume on 16th of May behind closed doors

Why can't we do the same and play the season out?



07 May 2020 17:56:00
Because our government hasn't manages things as efficient n good as germans have
No wer near safe here lack of tests etc.



07 May 2020 18:52:59
The Germans tested, tested and isolated from the very start. It seems very unlikely we'll have any more games this season.



07 May 2020 18:54:52
Scotland is already behind England in recovery ( our infectious rate is still above R1 ) .
So no way football will be starting anytime soon here.
Well what do you expect when you have the Tim the virusIOTS from Coatbridge strolling about!
P. S. Thank goodness we never got independence - looks like the SNP can't afford the Furlough themselves!



07 May 2020 20:10:21
MrTupacman that is the worst thing I have seen posted here! So now it is Celtic fans fault the virus is spreading. You need to take a long hard look at yourself!



07 May 2020 20:10:23
Absolute nonsense Pac. No need to bring your narrow minded politics in here. Your precious unionist Gov are in charge of furlough and can only do it by taking out huge loans in your name.

P. s no need for politics here.



07 May 2020 20:14:24
Poor Tupac, poor.



07 May 2020 21:23:26
Scotland at least 2 weeks behind England in public health initiative to control the virus, and Boris is no where near close to taking decision to allow football again. Can’t see there being any football before August/ September at earliest.



07 May 2020 22:29:13
Leaked Boris speech this Sunday English football behind closed doors end of July.



07 May 2020 22:35:02
Sorry bankie end of June.



08 May 2020 00:31:59
Anyone willing to bet that post was so bad that mojo will still stick about?



08 May 2020 17:38:15
Still here GazAllyBertzDrup!



07 May 2020 17:42:36
Roger Mitchell latest comments absolutely outrageous! where did this non entity all of a sudden appear from?
It might not be as contentious as many thought, ( the report) but surely any sane person can see there is wrong doing? So far can't see us getting anywhere near support we need to take this forward
I honestly believe if we had covert video and tapped phone evidence to prove this Rangers would still struggle to get this through!



07 May 2020 19:39:45
Blue blue sea, you do know that forlough is a loan and not a handout, the government will earn from this long term.



07 May 2020 20:13:28
Mitchell's comments are not a very loosely disguised threat nothing else!
Bit like that Tory numpty telling the woman mp to 'mind her tone! '



07 May 2020 17:06:11
My gut feeling after reading a break down of the dossier content there is enough smoke from the gun to warrant an independent investigation and clubs with any integrity will vote for that. If that indeed turns out to be the case I would imagine Doncaster will resign before any outcome. I just wonder though will he take anybody down with him. i'm sure there a few people out there in the shadows sweating. How ironic would it be if that wee rat Chris McLaughlin makes a BBC doc with Doncaster implicating some big hitters like Lawwell. LOL.



07 May 2020 17:26:05
TJBB. Doncaster is toast. The wee rat you refer to may try to cover up and mitigate further damage.



07 May 2020 16:23:50
Can someone tell me if the dossier was 200 pages or as some are saying 19 pages.



07 May 2020 16:29:53
No one on here knows all complete guesswork n general bull as it hasn't gone public yet.



07 May 2020 16:35:58
No matter what IOM, it’s embarrassing to us all. 😡🇬🇧.



07 May 2020 16:36:18
200 plus appendices.



07 May 2020 16:40:55
200 pages of he said, you said nonsense.
The person who sanctioned this dossier should be sacked ASAP.



07 May 2020 16:49:44
Mull I’d be very surprised if 200 pages.



07 May 2020 17:20:18
Irrelevant how long it is
Factual accuracy which can be proven the main thing.



07 May 2020 17:20:45
Why are you embarrassed yately and demanding people
sacked blue? This dossier is solely for the purpose of getting the other clubs on board to demand another inquiry . When and if that happens the facts / evidence will be submitted to the inquiry.
Why would you give your evidence to the accused before the trial?
In my opinion there is a multitude of evidence in the doc to move forward . and if it was here say . the spfl would be screaming sue sue sue . Instead I am hearing they have agreed to another inquiry. The lack of faith in our board on here at times is flabbergasting.
The SPFL scream that it’s rubbish . Sutton screams it’s rubbish and as another poster posted earlier ( not sure who ) the panty wetters come out in force .
This is the way forward.



07 May 2020 17:34:43
I have just read the 19 page one and it states some interesting points to be fair.



07 May 2020 17:42:20
Why is pointing out the failings of the SPFL and Doncaster in particular embarrassing? 🤔.



07 May 2020 17:56:49
Molsgoals as a point of law the accused has to be presented with the evidence against then to allow them to provide a robust defence regardless of their guilt or innocence.



07 May 2020 18:23:27
not questioning you Snell but where did you read the 19 page one? because if i'm reading any kind of paper work I'd rather read the whole lot not 19 pages, and the 19 pages selected by who? excuse the ignorance if i've missed anything.



07 May 2020 18:55:46
Mr mojo . yea but not proof of the evidence?



07 May 2020 18:58:19
Before a potential inquiry mojo?



07 May 2020 20:53:01
Of course before the enquire otherwise how can you justify incurring the cost unless you know the rationale for pressing ahead. Lots of Legal covers on insurance policies won't go ahead with a case unless there is a strong chance of winning and to do that they need the lawyers to first review the evidence.



07 May 2020 21:40:27
Nonsense MMR, don’t hide behind some spurious corporate fig leaf. The integrity and transparency of governance provided by the SPFL Board is the only issue.



07 May 2020 23:14:23
Bankie this is not a spurious fig leaf but is something that is standard in most insurance legal contracts. To you point about corporate governance then yes I agree that some things, on the surface seem dubious however what was produced today did not have enough hard facts/ evidence to illustrate wrongdoing.



07 May 2020 21:41:40
this is a 19 page dossier which was sent to me don`t know anything about 200 pages.



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07 May 2020 16:13:11
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07 May 2020 15:59:30
Sometime around right now Mr Park
should be clearing his throat ready to put Rangers points across with force and confidence in there seriousness, to the Scottish authorities and clubs. I hope he does, I really do. Anything less and we will be looking at a body of experienced, eminent businessmen who, for whatever reason will have made us look like the very thing, some in Scottish football have been trying to paint us as for years. Surely not. Surely these guys must have the bullits to load this "smoking gun".



07 May 2020 14:44:46
Now that the report has been submitted to the member clubs, have we, Rangers, made any follow up announcements on the matter? Surely we should publicly, at some point, clarify what is contained in the report and highlight the salient points.
Hopefully we will not be embarrassed, and if we are, heads should definitely roll.



07 May 2020 15:59:06
From what I have read there seems to be a case to answer regarding Doncaster's behaviour.
The allegations of bullying seems to be in regards to 2 chairmen in the championship. Nothing was done when the accusations were made.
I certainly don't think rangers have behaved improperly in they've done things.



07 May 2020 16:00:29
Pdot, expect a short statement later today. In meantime Think good if we all remind ourselves of content of official statement issued by club on 11th April and precursor to today’s events.



07 May 2020 16:05:45
WE have been presented with evidence via a whistleblower that raises serious concerns surrounding the SPFL’s processes relating to its stewardship of the voting on the resolution presented to member Clubs.

Rangers’ Interim Chairman, Douglas Park, attempted to discuss this evidence with SPFL chief executive, Neil Doncaster, who initially refused to do so. The SPFL followed up that call with an e-mail, which we believe was a thinly disguised attempt to silence legitimate concerns.

Rangers will not be bullied into silence. We believe it is in the interests of all Scottish clubs and supporters that the evidence, which is alarming, be addressed as quickly as possible.

The voting debacle and the evidence we possess raise serious questions concerning the corporate governance of the SPFL.

Mr Park said: “The lack of leadership and responsibility from the SPFL as a members’ organisation has shocked me. If ever there was a time for complete openness and transparency, it is now. Crucial decisions are being made on the issues of promotion and relegation behind closed doors and without proper time for consideration or debate.

“The farcical conduct of this affair seems to me to bring the corporate governance and business operations of the SPFL into sharp focus. It is an example of an undemocratic culture, which has existed within the SPFL for far too long.

“As a member club, we are disturbed by the evidence that has been presented and feel there is no choice but to call for an independent investigation into this entire matter. Each member of the SPFL board has a duty to its members to ensure that such an investigation is instructed without delay.

“All we ask for is equality and respect. In the past few days, we have become alarmed at a seeming lack of even-handedness and fair play from the SPFL. This is surely unacceptable and, if substantiated, must be remedied.

“Other member clubs, who have seen the evidence we hold, share our concerns.

“We call for the suspension of the SPFL’s Chief Executive, Neil Doncaster and its legal adviser, Rod McKenzie while an independent investigation is conducted. ”.



07 May 2020 14:22:53
We all know that Scottish football is corrupt and the people who run it are incompetent. The only way to remove individuals like Doncaster is in the courts. We have started a war and we must take this next course of action to remove them from power.



07 May 2020 14:39:12
Need evidence to have any hope legally.



07 May 2020 16:00:04
According to rangers there is a potential legal case against Doncaster.



07 May 2020 16:01:41
who is this so called rangers supporter called granny what an absolute bam.



07 May 2020 17:22:51
Granny?



08 May 2020 00:42:33
Did u not See last seasons refereeing decisions lol 😂 we didn’t start no war, they started it, and that’s not including the refereeing decisions, just the SPFL decisions on case 🤔.



07 May 2020 13:29:23
From what am hearing, this is a complete embaressment to everyone conected to our great club. I am ashamed.



07 May 2020 13:32:34
Ashamed? Let’s find out all of the facts eh?, and get a grip mate.



07 May 2020 13:42:13
Will reserve judgement until all the facts are known but early indications are not looking good are they? If Rangers have went all this way, spouting all the stuff they have and they have no actual evidence it will be beyond embarrassing for us as a club.

Should be shooting for the resignation of some of our board and not the SPfLs if this is the case.



07 May 2020 13:42:53
Never ever be ashamed of the famous glasgow rangers pal!



07 May 2020 13:46:17
Howauld you’re hearing from where? Not out in full yet 2pm conference call to discuss not sure how you can post what you posted 🤔🤔🤔.



07 May 2020 13:53:03
Can't see there being any knockout blows here or they would have emerged by now. It's all very well saying it takes hours to read a 200 page dossier but all the most important stuff will have been typed in bold or underlined.

I fear this will only strengthen idiots like Doncaster and that this could be a real own goal. Hope I'm wrong.



07 May 2020 14:11:56
What i will say regardless of the outcome here and what i've said since he got the privileged position as our CEO, is that stewart robertson shouldn't be anywhere near that position as our CEO! I don't know or answer for anyone else but i've never been impressed with anything he does or says and i'm very disappointed i'm saying and feeling this about him. If these snippets we're getting are true regarding our documents on the allegedly bullying and corruption of the spfl and prove nothing and are very sparse heads have to roll for this incompetence!
Get shot of stewart robertson and go and poach current hibs CEO leeann dempster! No wonder that woman gets head-hunted, because she's so very efficient at her job.



07 May 2020 14:34:56
Never have I been so embarrassed about the club I love today again we have been shafted by our board they have made us a laughing stock throughout Scottish football just padlock the gates and throw away the keys as we're being run by 🤡 had enough 😡.



07 May 2020 14:39:48
Below a tweet from spfl scouting . . let’s not jump to conclusions. Sutton has been wrong before lol

SPFL Scouting
@spflscouting
·
1h
Having waded through the unnecessarily large #RangersFC dossier, it does in-fact seem as though #RFC have a strong case for the #SPFL to answer! Interesting times ahead.



07 May 2020 14:48:01
Supercoop, you do realise that James Bisgrove was appointed by Stewart Robertson. Get a grip man.



07 May 2020 15:13:32
Bankie i've always said stewart robertson isn't good enough for rangers and not you or anyone will change my opinion on him! I'll still be supporting the famous when he's no longer employed by us. I have good friends who work in relatively high places at motherwell fc and i have had some very negative stories on mr robertson unfortunately. I meet many different supporters by going everywhere supporting my club and there's a helluva lot of us who just don't rate stewart robertson whatsoever! If you do bankie good on you as your entitled to your opinion but don't tell me to get a grip when i state i don't rate the man!



07 May 2020 15:36:36
Mols mate I think that tweet might be tongue in cheek from the replies I'm afraid 😔.



07 May 2020 15:37:36
Anyone on here saying that you’re embarrassed or ashamed should be ashamed of yourself! We may not have proof of bullying but it’s a very tricky thing to prove but the fact the SPFL could cost member clubs £10m in revenue without ever mentioning it just so they can end the season early, if that’s not corrupt then what is? There has to be questions asked and it seems we are the only ones with the balls to ask them. So while there may not be proof of bullying at the moment I bet an independent inquiry could dig up some proof.



07 May 2020 16:04:03
Have you guys read the dossier yet? From what I've read there appears plenty of things the SPFL and especially Doncaster have done wrong. All rangers have done is point that out. Certainly nothing to be ashamed or embrassed about.



07 May 2020 16:09:55
Mrgrumpy exactly mate👍.



07 May 2020 16:03:02
Plenty to be concerned about in the content of the report. I can't believe some of our so called fans decrying the club/ board. SPFL/ Doncaster do have questions to answer why do our fans side with them rather than our board. I despair. Wait and see once the allegations are published.



07 May 2020 16:20:30
Snell? I don’t think so my friend . No need for tongue in cheek ., There is plenty in the doc to fight for . Just cause the spfl ( deflection tactics ) ridicule it and Sutton backs them up makes it more obvious.
Let’s see.



07 May 2020 16:54:03
SPFL don’t want to spend a six figure sum for an independent inquiry but are happy to throw away an eight figure sum to end the season early this is the same men in charge of making the best possible money deals for the member clubs the inquiry is essential!



07 May 2020 17:01:49
I totally agree with you here mr grumpy, we should never be embarrassed with glasgow rangers mate! Is you all it isn't just the now, but i just simply have never rated our CEO stewart robertson the quiet man, who IMHO shouldn't be in the powerful, privileged position as chief executive of glasgow rangers.



07 May 2020 17:13:32
I just meant in terms of that tweet mate, have a deek at the replies- it's all laughing emojis and fishing GIFs.



07 May 2020 17:31:48
Supercoop, conveniently you seem to have ignored my point. I assume your Motherwell connection is same source of your glowing recommendation of Billy Davies as our club manager.



07 May 2020 18:09:23
Whilst I agree that the dossier produced by Rangers does raise further questions about how things have been handled the Sky issue could not have come as a surprise to any member club. All leagues across Europe have raised this as a concern. Has anyone confirmed with the TV companies that they would invoke this clause in the current circumstances and if they wouldn’t it is a non issue.



07 May 2020 18:36:58
Folks, where are you all getting the document information that you're reading, I don't see anything anywhere. I posted earlier saying that I was shocked that the general opinion in the media, and I use that term sparingly, was that there was nothing in our document. I wouldn't have expected anything else from the SPFL or a galoot like Sutton, but, I would like our Club to enlighten our Fans to the salient points in this dossier.



07 May 2020 21:06:55
Surely that's the point mojo. Shouldn't that be asked by the SPFL before the vote and then told to all member clubs?



07 May 2020 12:36:33
Strange that SPFL have denounced evidence as having not one shred of evidence but as of now 12-30 no other team from any league has passed any judgement
IF this is a dud, I'm sorry we need heads to roll be it Stewart Robinson or our legal dept
Douglas Park must also have a look at himself or his advisors
I just can't believe that business men of his standing would put their name or publicly comment on potential ramifications of this disclosure if there was nothing to it!



07 May 2020 13:02:35
Really hope there is more too it than first suggestions. Looks increasingly unlikely though.



07 May 2020 13:26:36
Rangers just look like bad losers to me, club has reached an all time low with this.



07 May 2020 13:43:26
Losers of what? Nothing lost or more importantly won yet!



07 May 2020 13:58:57
Take your head out from under the covers blue sea, this is a complete embrassment.



07 May 2020 14:08:48
Too many people on here with no back bone and seemingly very eager to diss the club and board . What did you honestly expect from the spfl . They are rattling their cages .
As blue sea said not one club has commented yet. The aim of this doc is to get the clubs to agree to an independent enquire. independent. not controlled by them . Let’s see what transpired before we get the stalks out . The spfl seem to have grasped one point from the doc, and are screaming about it . Is that because there is other stuff in there that could hurt them?
I see now they have agreed to another independent enquire . without it going to a vote from the other teams . This will no doubt be so they can control the outcome again . Well I wouldn’t entertain that and the silence from the other teams speaks volumes to me .



07 May 2020 14:23:14
SPFL had it 5 minutes and they said it’s rubbish.
Any business worth it’s salt would see legal council then digest the content and subsequently issue a statement.



07 May 2020 14:29:15
How can it be a dud when your own statement starts on a denouncement of evidence. so something happened, prove it? so something did happen its evident. what's there to believe. shambles. resignations required.



07 May 2020 15:37:52
I imagine it will be the legal council that read it for them to begin with William. Won't be Doncaster himself that has read it back to front.



07 May 2020 15:53:07
why do our fans always think negatively, shouldn't we support our board. i for one refuse to comment on something i haven't seen. if we have evidence then it will come out. until that happens i am 100% behind the board and would imagine it will be damming or otherwise they wouldn't have went public with the original statement. Patience is called for.



07 May 2020 16:02:33
Was that worth the wait William? 😂.



07 May 2020 17:24:39
Defo buzz . your time is up.



07 May 2020 12:29:43
Not seen it, but supposedly all we have is alleged wrongdoing. No actual evidence is in the files. No pictures, phone recordings, messages etc. Think we've done a big booboo. I thought we'd come out with things like, Neil d. on this date called st. mirren and said vote for what we want or your clubs going to have problems. We've got the tecording. Nope. Seems to be, Neil d. we think you've not played by the rules even though we have no evidence. We don't like you. We haven't got any recordings, but we think you're bullying clubs. Hopefully something concrete comes out.



07 May 2020 12:34:50
Apparently rangers lawyers think there's a legal case for dismissing Doncaster according to stv.



07 May 2020 12:38:11
Brasskneck of a club now if thers nae evidence.



07 May 2020 14:28:14
Seriously! a document has been provided by a member of an institution. that the said institution proposed a motion and the vote on that motion which it did not count, despite being received, until the vote was changed to favor that motion and could not be changed back. This is a criminal proceeding in America!
what happened to Scotland?
there lies your only embarrassment!



07 May 2020 14:30:50
What evidence is required? total shambles presided over by who? rangers? allegations continue. ergo shambles continues! this is a composite company of members. not an industrial tribunal. ergo management failure. demands replacement. cannot understand peoples defence of the ridiculous here!



07 May 2020 11:43:55
Funny how Rangers 200 page document landed with the SPFL OK but Dundee's vote went missing? 🤔.



07 May 2020 11:58:45
Mr Tupac an, and is being rubbishd all over.



07 May 2020 12:06:12
200 pages of utter drivel! The longer it went on you just knew we had nothing. Very embarrassing for the club😡.



07 May 2020 12:10:03
looks like another PR disaster if nothing is in the report.

Don't know who keeps loading our gun but someone needs to take the bullets away from him.



07 May 2020 12:29:54
Has anyone on here red the report? I've seen an article on BBC in which the SPFL say there's nothing there but that's not exactly a surprise.



07 May 2020 12:31:44
The only thing clubs are interested in is money and doing our club down. So I repeat that we should boycott all away grounds. Our players can handle it let's see if other clubs can handle the loss in revenue.



07 May 2020 13:16:44
Folks, if this is true, it is the end for us in Scotland, we will never get anything given in our favour from any Officials, I really cannot believe this crap, heads will surely roll at Ibrox, if this is true, I'll wait until something concrete is confirmed by Rangers or the SPFL, but the initial comments are disgusting for me.



07 May 2020 13:20:02
Agreed Ferintosh
Pains me to say it, but we need to maybe take 1000 tickets and no more for away games.



07 May 2020 13:22:54
Absolutely Ferintosh, i hope our supporters boycott this mob, they are only interested in shafting us, but then expect us to turn up in our thousands spending the blue pound. We should boycott the grounds, spend our money on nothing but Rangers, (and a few beers), we cannot constantly be their sacrificial lamb. Fact is the SPFL will give us less than nothing now we have challenged them. The other clubs except maybe one other despise us, so why fund them. I am done with the lot of them, i will only spend on Rangers, the rest of Scottish football have treated us with nothing but contempt and we are supposed to just sit back and say nothing, that is not in our DNA. Disappointed with events today, our board really need to shape up.



07 May 2020 13:34:50
And all the so called experts on here have read the report?
No - you are all going on a press release from the SPFL who said they SKIMMED over it and couldn't see anything that supported the allegations against them.
Surprise, surprise. 🤔👍.



07 May 2020 13:50:03
cant see any embarrassment or pr anything for rangers anywhere.



07 May 2020 13:53:58
Que the panty wetters condemning the club before anyone has actually seen what’s in the report. Remember someone accused of a crime will always say they are not guilty until evidence suggests otherwise. The SPFL statement came out an hour and a half after our 200 page dossier was sent out. How can anyone read through 200 pages then type a response in that time?
I have absolutely no doubt the club would not set themselves up if we didn’t have some sort of evidence of wrong doing. Let’s stay calm!



07 May 2020 14:26:56
Would anyone seriously expect the SPFL to say “right Rangers, your evidence is do overwhelming we’ll get Doncaster’s coat to save anymore hassle”? It was always going to be a negative response, not least as they’re trying to influence the other SPFL clubs. They issued a press release within an hour and a half of receipt of a legal document and expect us to believed they poured over all contents of two-hundred pages that quickly?



07 May 2020 15:04:08
Exactly. Below tweet from spfl scouting

SPFL Scouting
@spflscouting
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1h
Having waded through the unnecessarily large #RangersFC dossier, it does in-fact seem as though #RFC have a strong case for the #SPFL to answer! Interesting times ahead.



07 May 2020 16:55:43
Rangers should now release the whole report on our official website.



07 May 2020 11:30:34
"The clubs have a duty of care to each other. It's a common-law principle. For one club to be ejected from their league is a breach of that duty of care".

This a quote from former Hearts chairman and lawyer Les Deans in the Edinburgh Evening News when referring to the possibility of Hearts being relegated to the Championship, stating that legal action would have a fair chance of succeeding.

Now, what happened to that mantra when Rangers were ruthlessly dumped down to the lowest tier of the Scottish leagues? Where was this 'duty of care' then?

Hypocrites the lot of them.



07 May 2020 13:53:39
well said doiger!



07 May 2020 14:20:01
Unfortunately its quite simple. They all hate us and want us gone. I beileve we should grant them their wish and asap and join another football organisation even if it means starting at the very bottom. Leave them all to the celtic led republican agenda.



07 May 2020 11:05:17
23 years ago today we won 9IAR at Tannidice.
Brilliant memories. 👍.



07 May 2020 11:53:09
Laudrup with a header if I recall? As rare as hen's teeth 🤣.



07 May 2020 12:22:26
Laudrup header from a left footed charlie Miller cross! Couldn’t have made it up 😂.



07 May 2020 14:21:54
14 years old I was that day. Do you think the Tims will look back in 23 years time and say "It was 23 years ago today that we never actually won the league but they gave us it anyway"



07 May 2020 10:51:03
loyalist john greig won 2 cups in his first two seasons as rangers manager 2 more than stevie g.



07 May 2020 13:50:41
Great post. What’s the point?



07 May 2020 10:42:59
The eagle has landed.



07 May 2020 11:20:06
Hopefully has some damning evidence but at 200 pages long it could take the clubs a while to chew over.



07 May 2020 11:28:02
Bit worried now. I thought this was supposed to be evidence of corruption not 'legal questions to be answered'.



07 May 2020 11:29:07
What time is the smoking gun being fired?



07 May 2020 10:12:57
See the report this morning detailing how the SPFL have no record of Gretna's much publicised loan/ advance payment in 2013. McLennan and Doncaster had made big plays on this, stating that the loan (or advance) had never been paid back blah blah. Yet Gretna's administrators obviously have this on their accounts. Spooky or what? Surely this and the evidence of wrongdoing that we are submitting today will trigger an independent investigation into this lot. If not, how deep does this corruption go?



07 May 2020 09:39:35
Sfa, Rod Petrie, Michael Mullraney and would you believe, Neil Doncaster a non exec director! How did they get these jobs, oh right! So determined to get the Scottish cup finished, why? Oh right!



07 May 2020 09:30:16
With us bears on here talking about alfredo morelos and do we think he's played his last game in a rangers jersey, got me again thinking of what fee fredo will b sold for? I reckon we will get around £15million for him and he'll be a terrific buy whoever he ends up signing for! I do like a player who plays on the edge like alfredo and as long as he can curb it a little he has all the other attributes to play at the highest level, with a very big club! On strikers if harry kane is valued at £200million, in today's modern market, what would the great ian rush and gary lineker be worth? I would reckon £300million as both were better than harry kane! I thought ian rush was an even better striker than gary lineker and that's saying something as he was superb. Rushie was incredible! 👏.



07 May 2020 11:07:04
I guess it depends on when football returns to normal. Can't imagine many teams splashing the cash around this summer.



07 May 2020 07:02:01
The evidence has been leaked apparently Neil Doncaster broke lockdown rules and met Peter liewell in a car park and gave him the league trophy.



07 May 2020 00:53:04
I can't get my head around the negativity regarding Stevie G, check the history of the greatest ranger (allegedly) of all time being manager, that was 5 years of misery after 2 trebles in 3 years,



07 May 2020 08:42:41
Loyalist, you are right. This isn’t a quick fix and we are going in the right direction with Mr Gerrard and he deserves more time. He has brought back humility and competition back to our club and hopefully next year we can win a trophy and then hopefully maybe the league title in the next couple of years. Nine/ Ten and row doesn’t wash with me and I remember when we were going for nine it was often mentioned would you rather have a better run in the Champions League than win the title. You may not agree but we all discussed it. It seems to be the Tim’s take European football as a bonus to get the TAINTED ten they require! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧.



 
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