Rangers Banter Archive June 07 2020
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07 Jun 2020 22:53:08
Here's a question for the covenanter and all us bears in general. As both the covenanter and myself have stated how very highly we rated our former captain barry ferguson what do we think/ see in his midfield nephew lewis ferguson? I rated baz as the best scottish midfielder of the last 25 years and the covenanter rated baz as the best rangers player this century, both glowing reports from us you'll agree. A lot define lewis ferguson of having a bit of his dad derek's ability as well as having pieces of his game similar to his uncle barry. The covenanter how highly do you rate lewis ferguson yourself and do you think we should try and sign him? Also and here's a one, do you think at their best barry was a better midfielder than his brother derek?
07 Jun 2020 23:05:35
Coops lewis is not in the same league as his dad or uncle yet? I say yet as he is only a young lad but at his age both Barry and derek were miles better. I shall also say that ian durrant was better than both derek and Barry before his horrific injury. All about opinions mate.
07 Jun 2020 23:11:58
Lewis Ferguson is raw and rash and does not carry the skill like Barry. He's a decent player but not good enough for Rangers.
07 Jun 2020 23:38:31
SGL, first of all, even Derek said Barry was the better player. As for Lewis, of all the players in Scotland right now playing with a club outwith the Old Firm, he is the one I would sign. He is strong and energetic, passes the TIPS test (technique, intelligence, pace, strength) and in the right environment has a lot more to come. He also has a pedigree, which is a bonus.
They call the midfield the engine room for a reason and in this modern game you need a good variety in there and Ferguson would be another option, especially if Kamara goes and Davis fades to being a bit player. So we've almost sorted the middle, now how about up front, mate? DON'T SAY DKYES!
07 Jun 2020 23:57:00
No real comparison between Barry and Derek. And for the poster who recently said he was a crap player in England, he was often a star man for Blackburn although he was unlucky the amount of injuries he picked up while there. He also helped Birmingham beat Arsenal to win the League Cup, so hardly crap.
08 Jun 2020 02:44:19
He was named in Birmingham city’s best 11 of the last 20years by there own fans so they loved him and he was excellent for them.
08 Jun 2020 07:17:49
Covenanter I think the answer to your question about up front is BREWSTER! The latest temp import from the pool following on from greats like Ejaria and Ohno!
08 Jun 2020 07:45:43
It's pretty clear on here what I think of Barry Ferguson. Anybody calling him crap is either at it or has a minus IQ. The wee man was a superb player who had everything (well maybe he wasn't the best header of a ball! ) .
I loved wee Durrant and also Derek and Ian Ferguson but I think Barry was another level again. Tbh, because I don't tend to watch the sheep, apart from when they play us, I don't really know much about Lewis, but can't say I thought he ever really stood out against us.
Obviously scored that cup goal against us but apart from that, not much tbh. I will say that if he is even half as good as his uncle we should sign him up right away. On a final note, the fact that the Birmingham fans named Barry in their best team of the last 20 years and Mark Hughes fought tooth and nail to hang onto him when he came back home for big Eck tells me how highly rated he was. Brilliant, brilliant player. Makes peanut heid look like an amateur.
08 Jun 2020 08:43:44
The covenanter, i said rangers should sign lyndon dykes as an option at times in certain games, as a different option mate. I never said that dykes should be considered as rangers no.1 striker at anytime. If our no.1 striker alfredo morelos were to be sold, i would like the big austrian striker grbic, but i think he would cost us way too much. I also think if at last saido berahino has settled down and screwed the nut i wouldn't mind us signing him. He undoubtedly has the talent and is starting to prove the good striker we all remember he was at west brom.
Lyle Taylor looks a decent striker also.
08 Jun 2020 08:47:05
Yes fauldhoose bear ian durrant was an absolute superb attacking midfielder before that a******e Simpson done him, up at that s*******e pittodrie! However ian durrant and barry ferguson were different types of midfielders mate!
Two fantastic midfielders in their own right though! 👌👍.
08 Jun 2020 09:54:48
Barry better than Derek but I agree with Fauldhouse wee Durrant was the business before his injury.
08 Jun 2020 10:37:00
For a couple of seasons when he was young BF was world class and still my favourite player. DF was a great player and if he had BF’s attitude and mentality when you young would have been a Rangers legend. Fall outs with Souness and impatience meant he lost his way.
Lewis not in the same league as DF and BF but could be an option for us later in his career if he works at his game. If he was on a free he would be a good option but there is no way he is worth 2m.
07 Jun 2020
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07 Jun 2020 19:20:58
A wee quiz for you know who!
Which club in Scotland is skint but able to sign 2 players?
07 Jun 2020 15:08:57
What is everyone’s views on Jordan jones? He seems to have become the forgotten man at rangers following his horror tackle in the first old firm of the season which led to his injury. Is he good enough for us? Does Gerrard think he is good enough for us? Or will he be for the off? I personally think that jones although still a raw talent still has the potential ability to become a success with us and never really got a fair crack at the whip last season due to the aforementioned tackle. I think he could fill in well in the right wing position with Kent on left and Hagi center just behind Morelos.
07 Jun 2020 15:20:18
Allegedly Gerrard said after that horrific tackle that Jones will never play for Rangers again. Whether that was true or not I'm not sure as we all know he did have a few appearances after that. My opinion is he's a 1 trick pony who has been sussed out by the opposition so for that reason I'd like to see him moved on.
07 Jun 2020 15:22:21
Broxi bear i'll be honest and didn't want us to sign jordan jones in the first place! Having said that as long as he remains at rangers, i'll will support him and will him on to prove me wrong.
07 Jun 2020 15:22:45
Tough one, was coming on to a game before the injury but not seen enough of him. I'd give him more time but we also have Hastie, Murphy, Middleton around so decisions to be made.
07 Jun 2020 15:36:11
Probably Jones would be better playing against better teams that come out and attack us leaving space for him to run into.
07 Jun 2020 15:55:08
Heard rumours about him having poor attitude in training and being in trouble off the park. don't know how true they are.
07 Jun 2020 16:05:30
Hastie and middleton have no future at the club imo. There not great standard.
07 Jun 2020 16:31:31
Jordan who? but seriously, if he has fully recovered from his self inflicted injury caused by a moment of madness, then Kent right Jones left Morelos centre could cause any team problems. I disagree with Bgate w, I think players like Jones and Kent are exactly what is required to open up stubborn defences. As for Hastie, I am undecided, he is young, has time to mature, could still make a decent player, need to see more.
07 Jun 2020 16:32:46
I thought it was a great tackle! Shame it wasn't scott brown on the receiving end.
07 Jun 2020 16:43:38
Personally I’d like for him to be kept even if just a squad player to begin with and then he can prove himself in training and force his way back into the team. I haven’t seen enough of hastie to pass judgement but I believe he has more to offer than Middleton and as for Murphy I think after his lengthy absence his days as a ger could be numbered.
07 Jun 2020 16:48:18
All I will say is that he looks better than Hastie, Barker, Murphy and Middleton, so I would hold on to him in the meantime. Gerrard never said the boy would not play for Rangers again and picked him again, but he is a known big head that McAllister has spent time with, trying to instil in him what it means to be a Ranger.
07 Jun 2020 17:20:59
The covenanter - yeh it was said that he did indeed have an attitude issue. We have no place for players like that at Ibrox. We want and need people who will give 100% if and when required. Get rid of the big heads, the part time players, the players who are only interested in their huge wage, the players who's heads go down to easily . We need winners with grit, determination and passion. Come on Gerrard, do this for the supporters, make a name for yourself !
07 Jun 2020 17:28:02
Hi all. Not been on for a very long time. Trying to read and catch up on what the chat has been. Hope you are all good and families are all well too.
My opinion on JJ is he is not good enough unfortunately. Someone has already said that he is a one trick pony and I completely agree. He may well be useful when there is space in behind but we rarely play teams that allow us that space. he's not exactly a youngster either. I think he is 26 so he's probably reached his full potential and that's not the standard of player that moves us forward.
Thanks for the effort JJ but if we can get any transfer fee for him I thinknits time to move him on.
07 Jun 2020 17:28:05
The Stuck, so by that you must mean get rid of Morelos too!
07 Jun 2020 17:49:33
I don't think jordan jones is better than jamie murphy The covenanter. I honestly rate and like jamie murphy pal and i rate him the best winger out of all the names you mention mate. I take it you don't rate murphy? I would honestly hope gerrard holds onto murphy.
07 Jun 2020 17:50:39
The Muppet, Morelos has been magnificent, scoring 30 / 29 goals per season, very very hard to replace. But if his head isn't in it and he wants to move on then my reply would be yes get rid of him. Why keep him for another season if his heart isn't in it, plus his discipline is proving difficult to control. Yes I'd love him to want to stay and stay on the park and score another 30 goals per season.
07 Jun 2020 20:43:02
I like jones think he should be kept for cover case we get a few injurys at the 1 time.
07 Jun 2020 20:53:26
INTR, keeping those players will win us the runners up prize again. We have to aim higher and sign better quality over quantity.
07 Jun 2020 21:27:51
SGL, Murphy has very little grit, not a lot of guile and, I think, a bit of a sand dancer. If we could afford elegance over power in this dreadful league we play in, I'd see your point. If it was a war I'd probably prefer Jones in my trench therefore I'd keep him before the others. By the way, I actually would get shot of the lot, but we do need backup so JJ just about saves his squad place for me.
08 Jun 2020 06:31:28
What I've heard is that JJ is a big head and has a major attitude problem, refusing to sign autographs, walking past fans and not acknowledging them - apparently Gerard hates that side of him and has no time for him.
08 Jun 2020 06:53:20
If Ny wingers deoart in one capacity or another it shohld be Middleton Barker and Hastie i'd loan Hastie and Middleton out to a team that plays a similar style to us and move Barker along to an english team for a modest fee or a free.
08 Jun 2020 07:52:08
I don't think the tackle would have upset Stevie too much tbh as I remember he could put in a few horrendous ones himself! Maybe the lad's attitude has not been to our liking. Remember the management, staff and even the tea ladies see the whole picture and not just 90 minutes on a Saturday. I'm not saying the lad is a bad influence or a ned or anything like that, but it's a bit strange as to how he is not involved more in the first team squad.
08 Jun 2020 08:21:34
Regarding all of the above posts, everyone has their own opinion on who should stay or go, or, is good enough for Rangers, the bottom line is, no player is bigger than the Club, so, if the attitude is wrong, get rid of the players in question.
08 Jun 2020 15:53:45
I think Murphy is a better player and I would like to see Murphy get a chance
Morelos if his head is in it and gets himself fit and in shape he will score goals for us again
But would like to see a top striker signed this summer for the fact Morelos can’t be relied on to stay on pitch and keep himself available for all matches
And would be nice to able to play 2 up front against the weaker opposition.
07 Jun 2020 14:39:28
Imo what our team needs is a terrier/ killer with a great engine.
Gatuso, McCall, Denis wise type player. That would buzz around the midfield winning everything. This would allow or more silky players to do the damage like Jack, Davis, Arfield, Kamara.
07 Jun 2020 15:03:16
Definitely Stewarty, we need a fight for the middle!
07 Jun 2020 15:14:16
A terrier like player to allow jack and Davis as our silky players to go forward? Oh you mean a defensive midfielder? Yeah like jack and Davis? Pfff.
07 Jun 2020 16:53:07
What we need in midfield is a machine in the mould of the manager himself or wee Barry. Strong, skilful, bags of energy, likes a tackle, good passer, leads from the front. You can get one for about £50 million. Either that or we go down the cheaper road of employing a couple of assassins who can rotate their suspensions.
07 Jun 2020 17:34:04
We had one in wee billy gilmour but he slipped through the net. Rangers should have offered him the world to stay as this lad shall be a 50 million pound talent.
07 Jun 2020 17:52:25
The covenanter as a matter of interest pal, how highly did you rate our former captain barry ferguson?
I thought baz was the best midfielder to come out of scottish football over the last 25 years. He was a superb midfielder imo.
07 Jun 2020 17:55:51
I agree with you fauldhoose bear!
Billy Gilmour is already a terrific, young midfielder and will go on to become one of the best midfielders, to come out of scotland in many a year. I rated barry ferguson so highly, but i think gilmour will be better than baz was.
What's your thoughts mate?
07 Jun 2020 18:24:48
Ferguson was class, exactly the type of player we need. 👍.
07 Jun 2020 18:34:10
It wasn't just Barry Fergusons ability that made him such a great player, it was also his attitude and desire. He would carry the team on many occasions.
07 Jun 2020 19:14:25
Davis is not a defensive midfielder and the type of player that you mention is not Gerrards type of player, hence McRorie got sent out on loan, even though in 2 old firm games in Gerrards first season, he was the best player on the park.
07 Jun 2020 19:14:52
Yip, baz was born to captain the famous glasgow rangers! He was a terrific captain and of course a superb midfielder. 👌.
07 Jun 2020 19:32:08
Ferguson was a great player but what helped him greatly was that he was also surrounded by some great players at the time.
07 Jun 2020 19:36:54
Class player coops but think he made wrong move going to Blackburn.
07 Jun 2020 20:45:43
Saw Barry play for Scotland against England at Wembley 98 and I reckon he was MOTM and looked better than Beckham and even Scholes on the night.
A superb player at his best albeit to be fair he wasn't quite the player Scholes was.
07 Jun 2020 20:51:01
Yeah Baz was brilliant for a spell at Rangers, left for the wrong club, but he went down in my estimation with some of the drivel he came out with in the press about Rangers, of all the guys you want your ex captains to fight your corner with the bitter Scottish press. We have too many ex players bad mouthing us and acting like uncle Toms in the press, it disgusts me.
07 Jun 2020 21:29:57
Yip great player in Scotland, crap player in England.
07 Jun 2020 21:33:51
SGL, I'm biased having helped to coach Barry in his junior years, but I believe he is the best Rangers player this century. As for Gilmour, good bad or indifferent he didn't want to be a Ranger so doesn't enter my head. He never 'slipped through the net' as Fauldhoose Bear spuriously claims, he left us because he wanted to and no offer from us would have changed his greedy wee mind. Good luck to him, but he's never one of us.
07 Jun 2020 21:53:25
Ah, so we need a Ross McRorie. Wonder where we'll find one of those players.
07 Jun 2020 22:20:56
The covenanter i usually have a healthy debate with biased celtic fans regarding who was the best scottish midfielder between our very own barry ferguson and their own paul mcstay. Obviously they say mcstay was better than baz, but without being biased, i think barry was better than mcstay and down in england proved that for me! I agree with fauldhoose bear that barry ferguson did go to the wrong club in blackburn rovers and should have waited, as i was told back then that both liverpool and newcastle utd wanted to sign baz. Baz went to blackburn because of graeme souness but should have waited and would have had the choice to sign for either liverpool or newcastle utd!
Did you know this yourself the covenanter and do you reckon baz was good enough to play for liverpool?
07 Jun 2020 22:28:51
The stuck barry ferguson was superb in most games for blackburn rovers and birmingham city my friend. I watched baz outshine our current manager steven gerrard in a blackburn rovers v liverpool game. I think baz proved down there in england, he could more than hold his own, with even the so called best midfielders in that league. Baz was pure quality mate, no doubt about that! 👌👍.
07 Jun 2020 23:46:26
You partly answered your own question, SGL! Barry had a really good spell at Blackburn and he was indeed influenced by Souness and there's nothing wrong with that, mate! The offer on the table was from Blackburn, no other offer was received or refused.
07 Jun 2020 14:27:40
Ok fellow bears we all have our different opinions on a striker/ strikers we'd like to see gerrard signing for this penultimate new season coming up. We're all very much entitled to our opinions, as that's what makes this facility a superb read and superb to post our own views and i totally thank the ED'S for that, cheers again guys 👍! For a wee bit of fun and debate let's get all our different views as to what striker/ strikers we'd want rangers to sign, obviously ones that are gettable and within reason guys?
Assuming morelos stays what striker/ strikers should we sign fellow bears?
Remember we've currently got morelos and defoe as our strikers ATM!
07 Jun 2020 14:41:29
SGL, I thing Morelos will be ofski, he wants a move so therefore we can't carry a player who doesn't want to play for us. So sell him, he must be worth £15 / £20 million. I also think Barasic could be sold for a tidy profit and maybe Kamara. This would bring a huge budget. Who do we sign? I've no idea, maybe explore the foreign market? But Dykes, Cosgrove etc are not the answer if we wish to win the league.
07 Jun 2020 15:05:49
I would love us to sign Mirko Maric from Osijek. Looks like he is a real goal scorer. Could be our new Jelavic.
07 Jun 2020 15:53:20
I’d like a tall physical type that would give us different options to Morelos and Defoe. A jelavic type.
07 Jun 2020 15:53:54
He'd be a cracking player if he was as good a player as jelavic.
07 Jun 2020 16:06:48
C of ibrox would prefer Vydra but heard he's on 150k a week at burnley.
07 Jun 2020 16:46:27
Paul 86,vydra is on nowhere near 150k a week at burnley mate! 😂😂.
07 Jun 2020 16:58:09
Nice one Paul😂.
07 Jun 2020 17:24:32
I'm sure Morelos will be here, Vydra isn't proficient (and believe it or not is on £35k a week, Paul86) but has great experience. Scott Hogan scores as many as Vydra and would be half the price, Ollie Watkins of Brentford is similar, but I hope our recruitment team have identified another Michael Mols in the making, someone just under the radar, ready to blossom into a goal machine.
07 Jun 2020 17:59:47
What's your overall take on morelos the covenanter? How highly do you rate him and how far in the game do you reckon he'll go? Will he go on to play for a big club in one of the best regarded leagues in the world?
07 Jun 2020 18:52:15
I think Alfie is almost irreplaceable as he really has something, the way he can disrupt and hassle a defence is super impressive. If he get's his head pointed right way he will become even better. It would be good to have a more burly striker to compliment AM and JD and add another option.
07 Jun 2020 20:13:06
Paul knows how much Vydra is on. He is having a laugh about another thread. One that stated all premier league players are out our reach now. Then the next day we sign a player from Leicester lol.
07 Jun 2020 20:27:08
Lads u must have missed previous post. Got told vydra is on 150k a week. As i suggest we should go for him. he's on 35k a week on 4 year deal at burnley.
07 Jun 2020 20:27:43
If Alf leaves. Vydra for me and a clone of Prso.
07 Jun 2020 20:46:44
You forgot all players in the premier League and championship are out of reach and we'll have to look in the English first division Paul! 😂.
07 Jun 2020 21:39:55
SGL believe it or not I have never been 100% certain about Morelos mate. Sure, he scores bags of goals (often in clusters of good form but not consistent) and is a predator, but I don't think he has the technical ability in other aspects, the intelligence or the composure required to make it to the elite class. Briefly, for me he's a £20million striker in a market where real class begins at £60million mate.
07 Jun 2020 22:00:01
I believe Jordan Rhodes and bog Chris Martin are soon out of contract, 30 and 31 respectively, now I'm not saying either would be a fit Rhodes years ago would have been a no brained but big Martin has been a handy player for Derby for a while, someone in his mould to play off of Morelos wouldn't be the worst move we could make.
07 Jun 2020 12:04:16
Can someone tell me what Gary McAllister brings to the team set-up? I liked Gary as a player but he seems to keep a very low profile and I'm not sure what influence he has in the dressing room.
07 Jun 2020 12:33:19
Its Gerrard's job to influence the dressing room👍.
07 Jun 2020 12:40:49
and gary's to translate it.
07 Jun 2020 12:44:37
He's the assistant manager.
07 Jun 2020 13:05:04
We don't are not privy to what gary mac brings to the set up. Because we don't see what he brings, doesn't mean to say he's not bringing it/ contributing guys.
07 Jun 2020 13:41:29
Its been said a few times by Gary Mac he is the link between the players and the manager.
07 Jun 2020 13:45:35
What does it matter to you as long as the manager appreciates his contribution?
07 Jun 2020 14:21:43
Correct, SGL. Nobody knows what goes on in the dressing room. We can't say what influence Walter had with Souness, or Archie had with Walter, only that their input must have been trusted and respected by the manager. That's the job of the assistant manager, DOIGER, to be the trusted sounding board for the boss.
07 Jun 2020 15:56:00
The Covenanter. I am entitled to my opinion. When Archie Knox was Walter Smith's assistant he was very visible during some of our most successful years. McCoist too was quite high profile when Walter's assistant. So 'it matters to me' because we haven't won the friggin' league since 2011 and I'd like to know what he is doing to earn his wages. If it's Gerrard's job to influence the dressing room, then what is McAllister doing?
07 Jun 2020 16:27:17
DOIGER for once in your life send a postive post. Your world seems full of gloom and doom. LIGHTEN UP MATE. 😜😁.
07 Jun 2020 16:50:28
DOIGER mate, on the training field at the rangers training centre, i'll pretty sure/ confident that gary mac has a big input and as a management team along with beale, milsom etc will have an input into gerrard's preparation and attention to detail!
07 Jun 2020 17:27:29
I love all you guys who say you are 'entitled to my opinion' when nobody has ever said you aren't. But my thought is that if you offer that opinion on a public forum it will be debated. Apart from that, the rest of your post is nonsense. He earns his wages in the eyes of the management, that's all you need to know.
07 Jun 2020 18:05:39
I like reading your posts the covenanter. You clearly talk a lot of sense and know the game. I think most of the times along the same lines as your good self mate. 👍.
07 Jun 2020 19:18:14
I meant to say along the same lines as myself 😂.
07 Jun 2020 11:32:56
Interesting UEFA president Alexsander Ceferin has given the green light for Ligue 1 in France to resume even tho league has already been voted to a conclusion, as long as the current season can be finished for August 2nd. French courts will decide Lyon, amiens and toulouse appeal on monday or tuesday. comon mhanks push to finish the season, let's see if you really had the bottle to finish on the 20 point gap yous all predicted👍👀.
07 Jun 2020 13:32:49
I think there's more chance of seeing Elvis riding Shergar on the moon than getting the Corrupt Crew to finish the season. I'm just waiting on the proposal to get the cup competition finished even though Hearts are bound to be in disarray losing players ahead of the drop. Maybe they will let us take their place in the semi final! Aye right!
07 Jun 2020 14:19:14
If there is a wrong way to do something then Doncaster is your man. I'm sure Rangers proposed new league construction will be shot down in flames. I know it needs 75% to succeed but I'm sure Doncaster will have a huge influence on this not to materialize. When you think about this proposal, it's a no brainer. Will give the lower teams huge financial gain and will help them survive and prosper. Here's a thought: if this gets passed then in the future we could see to old firm teams in the premiership. Surely not.
07 Jun 2020 14:47:52
Seeker true the mhanks have no bottle to finish it off but their excuse of 'we couldn't finish the season' is getting weaker by the day. Fact is head of uefa says we can go back on the voting nonsense and choose to finish off the spfl season the correct way, enough time to do it.
07 Jun 2020 15:03:21
Why should it be 75%. Surely it should go by a majority vote.
07 Jun 2020 15:18:00
No u wouldn’t see two old firm teams in the premiership because the proposal states the colts would only be allowed as far as the league before the premiership 👍.
07 Jun 2020 11:24:24
I don't think it's so much the team way have just now that's the problem. we seen they could play very well but heads did seem to go down a fair bit when things were not going our way. Esspecially after xmas we didn't seem to be the same time and sadly our manager didn't seem to know how to change that which will always cause a lot of problems. me personally a feel all our centre backs are the same type of player and all have a clumsy trait to them perhaps just experience as we have always seem to have a very experienced CB with a young hungry lad beside them. there's 2 or 3 first team players a wouldn't care if they left because in my opinion there is no fight in them or winning mentality that we need to push us on. hagi with be wasted if he is kept out on the right he deserves to play where he is most comfortable. we 100 percent need a right sided good fast player because last year that was one place we struggled a lot with which did leave tav having to do that extra push.
07 Jun 2020 06:26:55
Why does stevie g not play as player manager? He's still got it!
He would slide perfectly into def midfield allowing afrield/ jack/ aribo/ hagi/ Camara to explore. I know it's not going to happen but we need someone to take control of that midfield. Not only that but someone that can strike from long distance which now adays I've not seen in a long time at rangers. We seem to try and walk the ball into the net.
Another point is people trying to down alfredo morelos. for having a dip in form! People forget when that dip of form came when 1. Some person tampered with his car and followed him and also 2.his wife being pregnant. I hope he comes back all guns blazing.
07 Jun 2020 09:44:09
We're not as bad a team as some fellow supporters are making out here. I reckon if we sign around 3 quality players and concentrate on quality over quantity this time, we have a good chance of winning the league. Tell me something guys, there was nothing wrong with our midfield players when we beat them 3 times under gerrard and absolutely played them off the park. We didn't give brown and co a minute and made them look very ordinary indeed. Irrespective to a lot of negativity on here at times, which IMHO gets blown way out of proportion, we have got good players capable of challenging them. Its our consistency in the smaller games, with teams that sit in, that we have the problem with and have to rectify! Hagi may be that no.10 and missing link we're looking for in these tight, congested games. A big plus/ help will be kent getting back to his natural wing position and finding the form he was in, when he was on loan to us. Its nowhere near as grave/ bad as some of our supporters on here would want you to believe! Think about it fellow bears! 🤔🤔.
07 Jun 2020 09:51:06
Morelos downed tools long before his car was tampered with and his girlfriend just gave birth recently so 9 months ago he was on fire. He wanted a move in January that never happened. His attitude is the problem👍
I'm not sure Gerrard is the answer. 👍.
07 Jun 2020 10:15:11
Sorry SGL but I think we do have an issue in midfield. Davis is finished and it was alarming to see players like Kamara and Arfield form fall off a cliff after the winter break. Added to that the injury to Jack and we really struggled. Would keep Arfield and Jack and hopefully can sell Kamara. Just hoping that Docherty can step up to the mark however it looks highly likely that Gerrard just doesn’t fancy him as a player. Do agree though we have some very good players in the team like Hagi, Kent and Aribo but they need to drastically improve consistency. Defence is a worry too. All 4 centre halves make too many silly mistakes that costs us. Tavernier needs to be replaced as captain and at right back.
07 Jun 2020 10:20:46
Colo, I agree, he has wanted a move every January, usually resulting in an improved deal! 2nd half of season has never lived up to the promise of the first half.
07 Jun 2020 10:39:34
SGL totally agree my friend . As fir Davis ., Aberdeen kicked him off the park and he was out for 4 weeks and never got 100% fit again .
People don’t take things like that into consideration. They just say he’s finished.
07 Jun 2020 10:53:07
he got improved deal so we could keep him and make him harder to be approached. in that way people would need to pay big money.
where was he supposed to go in January? i don't recall any offers coming in from him?
the whole team dipped in form plus we had injuries. i don't get this singling out individuals for the blame when it was clear not one of the team would get pass marks after January. So get off his back and start supporting the team you allegedly love.
07 Jun 2020 11:06:22
I just want ANSWERS as to why the team fell apart two seasons in a row after the winter breaks.
The Rangers support group should be demanding explanations from the board and getting assuances this can never ever happen again.
Rangers supporters are the main shareholders in our club as far as keeping it alive is concerned.
Lets get into this board for answers in no uncertain terms.
Please excuse my rage the more I dwell on this it hurts badly.
07 Jun 2020 11:06:51
No he could not. Its as simple as that.
07 Jun 2020 11:09:22
Exactly geesadodothat, no one wanted him and he took the huff because he had to stay in scotland. No one is blaming fredo for our form, where did you read that or did you make it up? That blame lye's firmly at Gerrard's feet👍.
07 Jun 2020 11:16:54
Biff 316,you've sort of answered your own question here pal. You mention players off form like kamara and arfield and you're correct, but it doesn't stack up in saying these players are not good enough, which is what my post was about. Both these players have proven they are good enough biff316.Being off form is one thing but being deemed not good enough is a separate one altogether. Both kamara and arfield,
along with jack proved with ease against the celtic midfield, that they are good enough and that's my whole point in my post. With the signing permanently of hagi i honestly don't think there's too much wrong with our midfield! I'd maybe sign a very strong/ robust midfielder and IMO davis ain't for the scrap heap yet and will be good to have for the bigger games which of course will be down to steven gerrard managing him properly! Remember davo was carrying an injury. I honestly get sick and tired when fellow supporters because a player has lost form or possibly carrying an injury, come away with aye he's not good enough now? There's many things to querie to why any player at any given time isn't playing to his true form. You can't just say these things and want them binned before studying why they're not playing well!
07 Jun 2020 11:23:52
I heard a rumour - from a usually pretty good source - is that Morelos lied about the reason for returning to Colombia and Rangers found out about this.
Could be nonsense but I wouldn't rule it out.
07 Jun 2020 11:55:37
It wasn't just Gerrard's fault. Considering he got his tactics spot on in Europe and the players played to their potential.
It was domestically we came unstuck where tactics, poor form and individual errors cost us dearly. 👍.
07 Jun 2020 12:02:53
That would suggest that it is an attitude problem geromino. 👍.
07 Jun 2020 12:13:26
Leaders, leaders we don't have any players in the Souness, Butcher, gough of Fergie mould . Tav is never a leader of men, someone said we need a stronger mid field centre got to agree. Strt with fergies kin.
bur do we have the money? we need to sell first.
07 Jun 2020 12:19:19
Bluebilly you are getting really boring now, if you demand answers go to the top of the page, second from the right and you will get all the answers you want.
07 Jun 2020 12:27:08
gerrard is to blame he got his tactics badly wrong domestially, playing in europe 433 suits us, domestically gerrard wasn't astute enough to understand the difference in tactics. Gerrard's fault. 👍.
07 Jun 2020 12:37:53
Coldo got to disagree. SG is the best signing the club has made since gazza but in a different way. WE played the whole season with the same tatics its the payers fault no leaders in the team SG has to address.
07 Jun 2020 12:38:35
Gerrard's not to blame for individual errors at the back from all of our CH's who cost us goals and points. 👍.
07 Jun 2020 13:02:14
Rangers played 4-3-3 for the first half of the season. In the league=
Played 19
Won 16
Drew 2
Lost 1
We suffered a cataclysmic drop in form after the winter break. Think it was this rather than tactics that cost us this season.
07 Jun 2020 13:04:22
Gerrard is to blame, he picks the tactics. For individual errors of course he isn't to blame. It was individual errors that were to blame for our collapse, it was tactics, gerrard's fault👍.
07 Jun 2020 13:28:01
Coldo honestly pal in my own humble opinion, steven gerrard will win the league as rangers manager. I 200% would stick by him! There wasn't anyone shouting for stevie G's head when we beat that mob 2-1 at breezeblock boulevard and went 2 points behind them with a game in hand, before the winter break. Now i'm not saying here for one second that gerrard hasn't made mistakes as manager, because of course he is and he's still a very young manager, but i'll also say he's improved every aspect of our club tenfold, since he became our manager. Even the experienced/ great managers make mistakes. I tend to sway towards the players coming back from dubai totally off form and too many off form at the one time, for most of the problems we gave ourselves, after the winter break, as opposed to gerrard. The same players and tactics were working just fine before the winter break, simple as that for me!
07 Jun 2020 13:41:02
Totally agree Mr Grumpy. This was the same team that dominated in most games for the first half of the season then form and injuries cost us in the second half. What does that have to do with tactics? 👍.
07 Jun 2020 13:43:39
Tactics cause poor form, how many times in the first twenty mins of games did we see that the set up wasn't working and gerrard persevered with it then when it was too late to influence a game he would change it. Teams had figured us out by the 2nd half of the season, gerrard was not astute enough to counter this. Fair enough if one or two players lost form then you could put it down to individuals but when its the whole team that has lost form its tactical. By tactical that includes dropping players for no reason, rotating and tinkering for no reason, playing his favourites when they should be nowhere near the team, having a captain who isn't a captain. Playing players out of position, playing one up top in scotland. Slaughtering his players in the media wouldn't help either. Gerrard's fault. 👍.
07 Jun 2020 14:39:35
Although tactics and form have a part to play IMO it quality that cost us. The first half of the season was not all Rosy, our first game was won in the last minute, we got gubbed by Celtic and a few other games we pipped it by a late goal in the second half. Our Squad quality as a whole was fragile, one key injury or suspension and the team is suddenly at 75% strength and that does not cut it if your just winning games. Its quite simple. We didn't have enough quality players to keep up an SPL and European campaign for a whole season. We need 16/ 18 1st team mentally strong Rangers quality players. We also need more of the other players to pitch in with goals, we get plenty of chances and because we don't have the overall quality we can't convert them often enough which leaves us open to the sucker punch.
Right now we need at least 4 quality players that can be considered 1st 11 when we have an injury or suspension that when they come in the team quality remains the same.
07 Jun 2020 14:39:55
Coldo mate, regarding alfredo morelos, i heard the reason there was a slight falling out between the rangers sporting director ross wilson and morelos and his agent because he was promised he and his agent would be allowed to speak to any interested club, who made a significant bid to buy him in january. I heard there was a substantial bid of £17.5million from atletico madrid and morelos and his agent thought that was substantially enough to allow them to speak with atletico and wilson and gerrard then changed their views saying there's no way we're now selling morelos in january. I was told that gerrard actually said at the beginning of january that there's no way this club will/ can sell morelos or there's no chance of us winning the league. that's how strongly gerrard felt and told wilson as much. Thus morelos throwing the toys out the pram and going in the huff, believing rangers had broken their promise to him and his agent! 🤔🤔.
07 Jun 2020 15:05:10
Tactics don't necessarily cause poor form.
Injuries to key players at key times
Individual discipline issues
Individual mistakes.
I think these play a much bigger role in poor form.
Has SG made mistakes? Of course he has, don't think anyone could say he hasn't. Not signing a recognised right winger was probably the biggest one for me.
07 Jun 2020 15:34:28
I'm with grumpy. The truth is never as interesting as the conspiracy. Couple of key players injured and a couple off form at wrong time. It happens. Squad strength so subs make an impact and ability to change formation and tactics is what's needed. I really wouldn't have been surprised if we restarted the league after C.V. with the team refreshed and went back to good form and won all our games.
07 Jun 2020 15:48:58
Morelos had his heart set on leaving in january coop and when that didn't happen he clearly went in a huff. No doubt about it. I don't know of any bids but what you say would make sense mate. Anyway I hope Gerrard has learned from his mistakes as this is a huge season and he can't fail this time around. 👍.
07 Jun 2020 17:02:55
I don't think rangers would have turned down £17.5m for Morelos.
Let's give SG this season, if we don't win anything I think SG will resign.
07 Jun 2020 18:10:36
Gerrard made it clear to wilson and the board that the league depended on it and there's no way in his opinion that morelos could be sold.
07 Jun 2020 23:29:52
SG told the world that SGL, before and after the break. Robertson said it, King said it. this wasnt news. Did Robertson say he wouldn't accept any offer less than 25M, didn't SG then say he wouldn't accept an offer at this time if it was twice that. this isn't anything new. In January SG told us that as far as he was aware no acceptable offer had been made for Morelos. In fact we were all saying here on this very forum that we wouldn't let him go for less than 25M now we are saying accept 10-15M. how fickle are our fans.