Rangers Banter Archive February 07 2017

07 Feb 2017 18:41:59
Nikica Jelavic to terminate contract with Chinese team by mutual consent over contract wrangle making him a free transfer. He is being chased by a Croatian team. Scored 15 in 30 for a mediocre Chinese team this season. I would take him in a heartbeat. Should we have Niko on the phone to his buddy? What do you think guys?

07 Feb 2017 19:03:19
Not sure why people are so keen to get ex players back. To me, at least, it would make more sense to find the next Jelavic and sell him on for significant profit. We need young, hungry players trying to make a name for themselves.

07 Feb 2017 19:38:43
I'm not big on bringing back ex-players usually Cullin. But we need goals, he would be free and the window is shut. He's also far better than what we have.

07 Feb 2017 20:04:28
Nothing wrong with bringing ex players back, especially with the state we are in at the minute. Bring in a young player that turns out to be a dud or a player, like Jelavic, that knows what it's like to play for the jersey. I know what I'd prefer. Don't forget Kenny Miller was an ex player a few times and he's one of our only decent players at the minute.

07 Feb 2017 21:03:43
Doesn't matter if they've been here or not if they improve the team why not sign them? Especially jelavic he done well when he was here. Doubt we can afford him tho

07 Feb 2017 21:32:00
Would take jelavic back in a second. Must be a decent age but the lad was class and i'd imagine he'd score goals here.

{Ed039's Note - Jelavic is , wont be 32 until August)

07 Feb 2017 22:27:37
Jelavic was a class act when he was at Rangers and would score goals if he was to return.
Wages would be the issue no doubt

08 Feb 2017 00:06:51
I would love it to happen. Doubt it though.

08 Feb 2017 00:22:43
I'd be happy if Jelavic returned to Rangers. He's got something that we are lacking up front and might be open to coming back but someone better ask him first.

08 Feb 2017 19:02:09
Yep get jela home
Now big time he could well score goals here again in the famous royal blue come home jelavic sos calling from the rangers fans

08 Feb 2017 20:11:47
Cuillin72, weren't they the ones that Warburton said he was bringing in to improve them and sell them on? That worked well, eh?

08 Feb 2017 20:27:14
Jelavic come home sos
Coming from ibrox come back and score goals for fun we need a decent striker ed pleas post

08 Feb 2017 20:30:51
I'd love the jellyfish back. Guy was a quality finisher

08 Feb 2017 23:06:50
Good player, certainly did job for us last time round and would make an immediate impact. Think his wage expectation would be outwith our reach though. Let's get Dodoo on the park!

08 Feb 2017 23:19:37
Yip i also don't believe in bringing back ex players to rangers in general! However, i'd bring back nikicia jelavic in a minute! He'd score goals alright! His goalscoring record at ibrox was superb and better than a 1 in 2 ratio! I loved the big fella when he was at rangers! Go get him, come home nikicia, glasgow rangers most certainly needs you! He had everything in his locker for a striker! He was also a one touch finisher! I'll never forget that one touch finish he scored at tynecastle, when he came on as a sub that day! Superb!

07 Feb 2017 13:12:13
Gonna only say this once to all rangers fans why on rhe face this earth is every 1 wantin the de boers? Great playera but manager? Leta get real here he did okay woth ajax that's it but nothin with milan didn't last ling but hell yeah he wl do fine for gers nah but thanks then no thanks had enough off this dutch crap in the past Fact. Now michael o'neil now that's the man we should look at if getting northern ireland to the euros isn't doing it on the highest stage and platform then you rangers fans tell me what is cause its certainly no frank de boer i mean isn't exactly hard to win dutch league with ajax there league isn't any better than us. Ed do you agree michael o'neil for what he's achieved with his country alone should be at least on the candidate list.

07 Feb 2017 13:16:31
If it was me he would be up there, De Boer has not impressed me at all, though, to be fair, Inter was an impossible job. So Michael O'Neill looks an excellent candidate.

07 Feb 2017 13:45:47
Only problem with getting northern Ireland manager would be compo. nearly a million pound.

07 Feb 2017 14:06:35
Personally I would just like a manager that would instil some fighting spirit in this team and knows how to motivate players.

07 Feb 2017 13:39:20
@edd001 - not for me . His managerial win rate is 40%. With NI it's only 28% so for me he's not the man to take us forward.

{Ed001's Note - win rate is not everything. He is manager of NI, it takes a miracle for them to do anything, but he has managed it.}

07 Feb 2017 14:29:48
Agree with the sentiments above regarding de Boer and also Michael O'Neill however let's not compare our league with the Dutch!

07 Feb 2017 14:41:30
Tomusa totally agree if we don't dog in and show some fight and quick we will struggle for 3rd never mind 2nd hard times

07 Feb 2017 14:51:43
@edd001 - I understand your point about win rates but you can have 6 decent qualifying results to get to a tournament. To be considered a decent shout he would have to get them qualifying again. If he did that he would then probably be able to get a bottom EPL / top Championship job. At this point in time they are more attractive jobs than Rangers.

{Ed001's Note - so why wait until then? He has to come under consideration, it would be crazy to rule him out over win rates.}

07 Feb 2017 15:07:31
More chance of getting Michael Flatley

07 Feb 2017 15:15:28
What a lot of cr@p about De Boer. He did OK with Ajax? He won 4 successive titles something that no other manager in Holland as ever done! that's also during a time when PSV were dominant in the Eredivisie!

Michael O'Neil ahead of this man. SERIOUSLY! GET A GRIP!

We will get neither, I want nothing to do with O'Neil.

{Ed001's Note - he won four successive titles in a league that was as competitive as the current Scottish one. As soon as there was serious competition he finished second. PSV were not in any way dominant at the time, that is just false.}

07 Feb 2017 16:01:03
Regardless of PSV, no other manager has done this before and that's going back to the days when the Dutch league was very much like the Scottish League, back then someone should have achieved this!

Their league is far more competitive that ours that's false!

Since 1999/ 2000 to 2008 PSV won 7 titles. Then Alkmaar then Twente took 1 each followed by De Boer 4 on the trott. I think its fair to say PSV were the dominant force in Dutch football previous to De Boers titles.

{Ed001's Note - that is irrelevant, all of it. When De Boer took over Ajax, he was handed money to spend and the backing of the board. No one else in the league had that. They backed him heavily because of the fact that they were behind PSV. PSV were unable to compete financially and lost out on the field as they needed to sell players. If you do not understand that simple fact, then please give it a rest. Alkmaar and Twente were able to win with little money, because the league was crap. As soon as Ajax spent some, they waltzed away with it.}

07 Feb 2017 16:02:34
Plus Inter are in a mess at the time he took over. No surprise it ended the way it did.

{Ed001's Note - can you not read where I said it was an impossible job?}

07 Feb 2017 16:46:43
Although I think Michael O'Neil would be a decent appointment. I think de Boer would be a cracking appointment. He's young and creative and did great with Ajax who he brought through a lot of youngsters. Isn't that what we want from a manager. Bring through the youngsters that we can sell on for a big profit.

Another good appointment I think would be Tommy Wright just for the fact his team are usually hard to beat.

07 Feb 2017 16:52:43
I sent the last message before your reply. To be honest my friend you never seem to like it when your subscribers challenge your thoughts.

In 2008 De Boer signed 1 player: Evander Sno
2009 He signed 1 player: Ooijer

I think you will find that that is not millions being thrown at him to spend! He develops youth.

{Ed001's Note - what subscribers? More crap just like the signing thing. In summer 2008 he signed Sulejmani for £14m, in fact he signed a total of 11 players, if you don't count the youth team players, who included Daley Blind being promoted that summer. In summer 2009 he signed a further 10 as well as the promoted youth players. No Ooijer though, so you might want to check your bull before posting it.}

07 Feb 2017 18:06:41
I agree with Ed! (about everything! )

07 Feb 2017 19:10:23
Subscribers was used for wanting of a better word, do forgive me!

You need to chill Ed001, a tad aggressive. My facts are just fine, you maybe need to see how many players were sold and for how much, Malik alone was 30m!

Anyway, you don't fancy him along with many others I for one would and he's head and shoulders above people like O'Neil Davies, Wright and all the other bottom of the barrel managers people suggest.

{Ed001's Note - I am not being aggressive, short maybe, but not aggressive. You shouldn't judge over a comp screen as you can never tell a tone by mere words alone. I was typing on a phone editing quickly, so I didn't pretty it up to sound nice I just typed it quick. Your 'facts' are wrong. I even asked a member of his coaching team to verify what I said about the number of players and he backed up that they did invest heavily.

Is he really head and shoulders above? What has he proved? The only job that he has done that is similar to Rangers was Inter, and he failed miserably there. Again we both agree that he was on a hiding to nothing there, but he also would be at Rangers. The fans want instant success and that just is not going to happen.}

07 Feb 2017 19:15:56
Just to correct a point of order, it was marco van basten as ajax manager who signed suljemani for 14 million, not frank de boer.

{Ed001's Note - it was summer 2008, which was the date he referred to, but correction noted as I never checked who was in charge then, I just assumed he knew the dates.}

07 Feb 2017 19:48:40
I didn't think it was deBoer who signed him. He did spend money but not multi multi millions and as I said he sold players for huge profits.

C'mon Ajax surely are more of a comparison to Rangers than Inter? I honestly think the Dutch league is miles ahead of SPL. Managers who leave that league often prove to be capable wherever they go also. I feel it's time to stop scraping the bottom of the barrel for managers and players alike. Yes money talks, and by all accounts we have very little. If De Boer has direct contact with Dave King as some would suggest then I think that's the direction that we should do everything possible to go in.

Always a pleasure Ed001. Tone is often confused.

{Ed001's Note - I compared Inter to Rangers because Juve have a budget well ahead of Inter's. In Holland Ajax have by a considerable margin the biggest budget unlike Rangers. Not so much about the league they play in but their financial state within it.

Apologies for it coming across aggressive. I don't always have time to check things over so they read nicely and when I do the crappy wifi here loses the message and I have to start again. This is the third time I have tried to reply to this due to the wifi crashing each time I press submit. Sometimes the replies get shorter because I get fed up retyping stuff.}

07 Feb 2017 20:18:48
Lol, I feel your pain my son.

07 Feb 2017 20:19:16
By the way no need for apologies.

08 Feb 2017 08:31:42
Gdog, to be fair De Boer spent £46.5mil on players during his time at Ajax. Yes they managed to rack in a lot more than that through selling players, however I doubt De boer has any say over youth players at ajax except from who he decides to use in his first team squad. Anyway, £46.5mil in the 5/ 6 seasons he was there, if he needed that much (and possibly the best academy currently in the world) to win the league then I doubt he is the man for the Rangers job.

08 Feb 2017 12:53:42
De Boer would be a top appointment who would be able to attract top players.
At celtic right now the attraction of playing under Rogers draws players there.
I don't think we would see the same kind of attraction to playing under Michael ONeil

08 Feb 2017 15:15:48
We can pontificate all we want on who might be the next manager but right now we have what we have and a vast majority of us were delighted when we secured his services. The problem as I see it is that we have a guy who is high on theory and not so good on practice. He wants to play the beautiful game the way that Barcelona play when he has accumulated a bunch of players that are 1,000,000 miles away from the quality of most Spanish top league sides.

He is playing in a league where 'mammy pamby' footballers are destroyed by the opposition and where slow build up play generally gets you no where in what is a fast and hard league. He has underestimated the SPL and his assistant quite frankly is a waste of space since he clearly hasn't provided any insight into what was needed, never mind any coaching of our hapless defence!

At the end of the day the players we have, with Souness, Smith or Wallace style aggression and motivation, would be better than the pack and would put up a better show against Celtic.

He fails to motivate, he fails to develop, he is a 'Southern Softie' that lacks "Govan Aggression", he is more suited to the Trading Floor than the rigours of winning a league where coming second to the great unwashed is simply not acceptable!

08 Feb 2017 13:26:42
I think frank de boer looks the most qualified for the job out of all the names. He did better than okay at ajax! It's not as if it's the spl with 1 descent team.

08 Feb 2017 13:37:32
I'm a northern ireland fan but I really think we need better than michael O'Neil. international football is different than club football you only have to look at lawri sanchez when he was with us he had some brilliant results but was a nightmare at Fulham. Michael O'Neil us totally unproven at club level. He's only had a short spell at shamrock rovers.

07 Feb 2017 10:09:33
So the referee in the St Johnstone v Celtic game on Sunday has telephoned Saints' manager to apologise for awarding a penalty incorrectly which allowed Septic to draw level at 2-2. I think Gers have had more dubious decisions against them this season than in our favour. Brenda must be delighted.

07 Feb 2017 14:34:12
What a surprise, deny the saints 2 stonewall penalties and invent one for the hoops! Got to keep the run going! Couldn't make it up

07 Feb 2017 14:40:47
Yeah I guess you don't like it when other clubs are getting dodgy decisions do you LMFAO! RFC and TRIFC have the only given right to dodgy decisions don't they lol
I guess you forget when your new club were struggling in the 3rd division that you had to get your friends in the SFA help with your own referees to help you get out lol

RFC cheats then TRIFC cheats now PMSL

07 Feb 2017 14:54:39
I think you'll find we never struggled until we were in the championship!

07 Feb 2017 14:56:50
"our friends in the sfa" scary thing is guys like you believe the nonsense you spout! Enjoy the success while it lasts mate

07 Feb 2017 15:11:18
Cooler don't worry wee are mate it shure is fine up here

07 Feb 2017 16:03:33
Yes you struggled there too mate lol but I recall you getting gunned by a few clubs in the third ALSO! It was comical to watch your team of stars struggle against part timers week in and week out! That all changed when your referees came and helped you out didn't it!

07 Feb 2017 16:05:07
Same as guys like you believe the drivel you spout too mate lol

07 Feb 2017 17:25:26
My god you tims. How we'll rejoice when we are finally back at the top. Brenda will implode soon enough and what goes around comes around.

07 Feb 2017 18:02:40
Your right doiger and I will be first to congratulate the sheep for their achievements

07 Feb 2017 18:48:54
Thwre our long established club and it's rich for Celtic fans to moan about dodgy decisions.

08 Feb 2017 09:39:38
Colorado: I always felt Celtic wre the ones who feel they have the divine right for dodgy decisions.

08 Feb 2017 11:04:05
Not only that the past 2 games against st Johnstone brown has got away with blatant fouls in the box.

I smell conspiracy.
Lol