Rangers Banter Archive April 07 2014

07 Apr 2014 20:49:22
The ones who want mccoist to stay do they enjoy watching negative football because I don't.

Knife, I can't fathom for the life of me why any gers fan would want mccoist to remain in charge. It's embarrassment to embarrassment and we're all scunered to the back teeth from it. As I've said runners up medal for the ramsdens cup is a joke. Mr Wallace, get this joker out the door, because he doesn't do walking away.

I actually think it is harder not to win the Ramsdens cup over the past few years considering we have a team full of Premiership players and a wage bill of £6-£7m a year.

When my mates the ones that support celtic slaged me about our downfall I used to say ah but we will win a trophy yous will never win they would say to me youse are welcome to it so I've been keeping a low profile since sunday I bumped into one today he said don't worry mate there's always next year ahhh

07 Apr 2014 19:40:31
Strange thing is normally a defeat like that would be soul destroying heart breaking soul crushing all rolled into the one. After the goal yesterday I just kind of shrugged my shoulders & changed the channel. Was anyone realy surprised? Did anyone think we had a chance against an inspired Lee Robinson in a shoutout? It just didn't shock me yesterday & it pains me to say but since Albion Rovers aslong as Ally's there & this board & Ian Black on the park I just don't care anymore I've had enough and win or lose it's just not the same. I will get the passion back but there's just no way I can get motivated for anything Rangers right now & that's what makes me saddest not that we lost.

Couldn't have put it better myself Larky. It's a sad state of affairs but I feel exactly the same.

Maybe it never came as much of a surprise to most fans cause it never really surprised me kind of a came to expect things like this happening to us why is that I wonder

Well larky I do care and nothing will ever change that I may rant and rave but thing is for sure I am a bad loser and when u hear of macoist singing karoke after a display like that says it all on sunday night I was like abear and afterhearing about him singing I don't hold anything against who ever beats us but I do care about the manner we play but obviously macoist must be shown the door in the last two days I have battered this laptop to death because of super swally

Yes LB, I feel exactly the same so let's hope the passion is only dampened.
The biggest problem being that we were all proud to support the Rangers win, lose or draw. In all honesty, how could you be proud of this lot. In most cases, the greed outweighs any passion and the contempt being shown by certain 'Rangers' men is alarming.
Unfortunately, the young lads trying to progress are not being shown the standards expected to wear the famous blue jersey and maybe it's time that these standards were forefront to enable us to regain our lost respect.

07 Apr 2014 18:59:32
well looked at vote% poll 61 votes for ally they say there is one born every 5 minutes well there is one hours worth in the poll

If there is one born every 5 min that's 5 hours worth surely. You must be an accountant for the old board

Ur right go to the top of the class that's how much that clown has upset me because I may not be good a somethings I can count (usually when I am calm)

5hours and 5 minuets to be exact

Well its lunch time tuesday there are (for all the maths experts)9. i666 hrs worth of votes for ally all candidates for carstairs

07 Apr 2014 17:29:50
ED039 big well done for posting my "Ally for 20 year contract" lol
In all honesty I feel all the genuine bears hurt, the decent majority deserve better from all within Ibrox. I actually think you may turn over Dundee United on Saturday if they do not treat game seriously.
Don't worry my teasing will resume in earnest again, as per banter rules, Ally, Ally Ally McCoist.

{Ed039's Note - Banter like that we can take Mr Malloy and we can give it out as long as it relates to football then its fine)

07 Apr 2014 16:50:21
Quick question ED has this forum ever been busier? You will have to give up your job in Fort William if Saturday's result goes to form.

{Ed039's Note - It did take off yesterday after the game, the site is busy most days anyway but I think alot of people needed to vent at the manager yesterday NBear, I have been McCoists harshest critic for quite sometime and yesterday even shocked me with the numbers of posts pretty much demanding his sacking/resignation)

Super salary won't be sacked due to can't afford too!as he has a huge severance pay day if could. he has no shame will continue to bleed club dry on outrageous wages&has all his penny shares. if has any decency will resign asap, but sadly he wont. he stated before yestetdays shambles "This week will see how far we have came". I dread to wonder what he will say if hammerd by united!H will want new signings in his world. just go&to all players shut yer gubs before making comments. jig's want to win treble at celtic park made me cringe&has proven me rite. nowt to joke about sorry!

Actually Joker I think I will call the wee fat one Super Salary from now on- well done

07 Apr 2014 15:40:58
Why does mccoist feel so untouchable because if this was any other club he would have been axed in facyt if this was any other performance related job he would be gone it was funny when he said yesterday's result was right up there with his biggest disappointments I wonder what he sees as his biggest disappointment il hazard a guess that his biggest disappointment would be that his ludicrous wages wer published in the accounts

The death knell of management is favouritism and it doesn't matter what business you're in. That's why there are CEOs in charge of airline companies who have never been pilots.

We had 11 players who could have won the cup and some were left watching it on TV. Doesn't bode well for Saturday. Could we have rested key players in the run up to the cups when we were 32 points ahead in the league and could we have selected youth when senior players were carrying injuries? Yes I reckon.

Wallace needs to make key and harsh decisions soon before all this doom and gloom about next season's ticket sales become a reality. Yesterday was defining.

Its not wallace that has to make the decision its dinsdale and dug and the rest ot the faceless board they must take the decision and tell wallace to act at least that would be one positive step they have taken for a change

07 Apr 2014 13:12:45
Just a quick thought. If you could would you swap the traitors that left us for the current duffers?
Lets say Ness, Mccabe, Naismith and Mcgregor for Black Peralta, Daly and Bell?

Embarrest bear today?

of course you would x

I would never let naismith back near ibrox jamie ness took wages while injured and then walked away (to oblivion I hasten to add)

Bit harsh putting bell and daly in that scenario. replace them with smith and foster would give you a bigger dilemma. firstly I wouldnae pee on the first 4 if they were on fire. peralta I think we haven't seen the best of him because superswally plays him wide right when his position is cm. as for black he is an imposter along with smith and foster. just a wee note at the abuse Kyle Hutton has been getting on here. the boy at least try's to play passes and try's to get forward. I think with the right player beside him the boy will do ok.

I was thinking back to when we went in admin and people were trying to come up with our team for the next season. Decided we would have McCabe ness Hutton and Naismith in our midfield. Should have been a cracking side instead of black smith and co.

Ibj d

Spot on mate great post

N3 spot on bigcol I wouldn't want to see any of them inside ibrox ever again for fear of me endin up in the jail

07 Apr 2014 12:37:24
Mccoist will be sacked if we lose to dundee utd on saturday!

Well if that's the case he might as well sit in the house from now I gave my ticket to my cousin this morning after the way I was last night after the game I could not go and sit through the game I was bad enough last night

I wiil mention it when I am facing east

Might not come to that! Norwich and spurs both looking for a new manager!

@ 3 they are looking for a manager- so are we and have been for the last 3 years

@3 yes they are and I think Ally has just made the top 400 on their lists. Will only take 399 knock backs before the knock on his door

Daniel leavy would notentertain him delhia might but only for cleaning the kitchen we are definetly not that lucky

Stewie even then it would probably be the light man at door to read the meter lol

07 Apr 2014 12:59:07
Where is Durrant these days? Not in the dug out for last few games?

07 Apr 2014 13:58:18
Billy Davis and Barry Ferguson that would be a good double act.

Fergiebear please no no negative vib es moriatre as said by donald sutherland

07 Apr 2014 15:21:19
He's not well at the moment, some injury or other, forget the exact reason.

Just had a hip operation

07 Apr 2014 11:45:12
The game and obviously the result were shocking but unfortunately not unexpected. Yes the league has been won and won well but that does not explain or justify the results such as this.
For me the biggest issues are the apparent lack of basic football knowledge that Ally and his coaching staff continue to display. Players out of position, lack of basic skills, lack of game plan, inability to react to other team tactics, in other words the basics and at some 400,000 a year in wages plus surely the minimum requirement of a managers ability.
I respectfully suggest that Ally and his coaches, with the exception of the goalkeeping coach has to go and go now.
I would like to see us approach either the current Aberdeen or Motherwell managers to see out the season and prepare us for next.

07 Apr 2014 10:46:11
As a player, McCoist was and always will be one of my heroes. As a manager. he hasn't got it and never will have it.

Calling his "tactically naive" is being kind. Let's not start to talk about his formation, choice of starting XI or his substitutions yesterday!

We've seen the same poor performances for 3 years.

How many other teams have you seen take a free kick like we do (3 men over the ball and touch it to each other while the opposition close you down)? It hasn't worked for 3 years. and it won't suddenly start working no matter how many times you try!

Goodness knows what we do at Murray Park all week? We aren't improving technically and we still look unfit compared to part time teams.

If Ally is in charge next season. it's simple. we will not be promoted!

I could put up with all the boardroom stuff if we were seeing something happening on the field to give us some hope and encouragement.

I for one will not renew my season ticket unless we have a new Manager!

Our best ever goal scorer our worst ever manager

Ally I will not walk away, at least Paul Le Guen done the right thing and walked without taking any money, has Ally got the club at heart or is he just interested in a pay off

07 Apr 2014 10:17:38
McCoist has gazzumped Dave King's plans for a fund to hold season ticket money as I doubt if there will be half the number renewing next season.
Mr Wallace MUST remove McCoist for us to reach an acceptable standard of play and to have a team worthy of the support of Ger's fans world-wide.
Even outwith yeterday's disaster we were going nowhere under the current regime.
If the decision is made to remove the manager the costs associated may scupper the plans.
My biggest fear is administration but being totally honest, I don't see many options.

Billy b I have said macoist is a bigger danger to he club than anything for long and weary

07 Apr 2014 09:42:29
mcoist says we suffered from missed chances we will continue to suffer from missed chances missed chances to sack him he has to go so as the newman has time to make changes for next season u cannot let this man continue or the damage will be close to being irepairable after being in shock scince last night when I was totally enraged and probably irrational I just wish there was something I coul do to get rid of him today because the ones that can won have the guts to do so

The biggest chance missed was getting a young intelligent manager who could work with and develop young players when Walter Smith left.
What a going away present -leaving Super A in charge- gee thanks Walt.

{Ed039's Note - present wasnt for us, it was for Ally)

Nbear i'm sure walter smith advised mccoist to walk away not to take the rangers job its a pitty he never took the advise eh

07 Apr 2014 09:21:58
There are 2 possibilities and only 2 possibilities:

1. Our manager is unable to motivate and get the best technically out of the players he has; or

2. Our players – purchase of whom was sanctioned by our manager - are duds.

If 1 is the case, it’s clear that Ally’s time is up.

If 2 is the case, it’s clear that Ally’s time is up.

It’s that simple…

07 Apr 2014 07:20:44
Slept on it, still absolutely gutted and embarrassed. Time for change, my only positive is that I never travelled up from England and wasted money to watch that dross.

Who would you have to replace Mcoist?

Missed opportunity to get McIness has the same hardness Souness showed!

Answer to question, ANYONE. Ally will finish us if he does not go. Who would invest with him at helm, nobody. Would any decent player now sign for him, no. Would any decent youngster sign knowing he will never get a game, no. Will fans stop going to watch this, yes.

McInnes, but doubt he would leave Aberdeen.

I would go for either Billy Davies or Derek McInnes. However I am not sure McInnes would even take the job given all the uncertainty and if Davies was in a job just now he might not even want it. Also see Norwich have sacked Houghton. Wonder why our great manager hasn't been linked with the job?

07 Apr 2014 10:37:15
Anyone!

07 Apr 2014 10:44:12
So glad that Ally is 100% concentrating on football matters.

It can't be easy to come up with that punting a long ball up to Daly tactic week after week and it becomes even more difficult when Daly is injured.

Well done to Raith but to be honest I don't think they even had to play well to beat us.

Bet Ally wishes now he'd followed my advice and played youngsters throughout the Ramsdens Cup run. Not because he might have discovered some fresh talent because that doesn't interest him but so he could have an excuse for his ineptitude.

I think it can only be one person and that's Derek Minnesota. although we would have to give him some serious cash to totally rebuild the squad.

Iam still rock bottom mate. Runners up medal for the ramsdens cup just won't suffice. We won't get the change we crave, but if pigs started flying and ally got the Dan n Mac I'd like to see Davies or Dell boy, but wouldn't happen, think he signed a 3 year contract will the sheep.

Reckon Broxi Bear could do a better job. At least we'd be spared the self serving sound bites and pathetic excuses on account that he cannae talk!

I sat and watched the whole game from afar, I know we do not have the same calibre of footballer as yesteryear but we are not playing the same calibre of opposition. What we have is better paid better trained footballers than those we are facing each week. Sadly none of this shows either in technical or tactical ability on the park, the solution is blindingly obvious but because we do not have a grasp of management affairs off the pitch we are unable to address the issues on the pitch. We are sleepwalking while we struggle to find a true leader who will pick up our club and give it the almighty shake up it desperately needs. I cannot remember any time over the last 10 years when we could say we passed the opposition of the park, created some wonderful moments and went home completely entertained. I thought we had a chance to rise from the ashes with a brand of football that would take us belatedly into the 21st century alas we have gone back to the 19th. McCoist, McDowall and Durrant, this triumvirate are the guys doing the real damage, as a real Rangers fan it is difficult to watch, I almost feel like turning my back and making do with memories of glorious days long gone.

@ 9 Broxi is a good shout but I'm going for the canary that went up My Auntie Mary's drawers.
In a different sane world I would love Jackie McNamarra to get the job and develop the youth and use Auchenhowie for the first time as it was intended but that ain't going to happen so ANYONE ELSE- please!

Big eck if we are talking managers

John its definetly the bretheren for u when someone comes back to a job for a second spell it never works or very rarely works there are some exceptions the boy howe at bournemouth

07 Apr 2014 01:51:33
C'mon now let's be honest I've been one of Allys staunch'st backers and its not there for him but who on this earth could get anything from that squad, Davies no, failure at forest twice, big tel failure at a bigger club should never have left caley Adam at Ross county enough said so no cash to take us forward were do we go and don't say u-20 team cause there u-20 team. Way 17 year olds done us?
r. f

{Ed039's Note - Get real, I could do better)

07 Apr 2014 04:56:38
It's long past the time for McCoist to go, and i'm sorry but the "i don't do walking away jumbo jet" was only to keep himself in his £800K ("I didn't know how much I was getting paid") job. He's made himself Teflon with that rubbish. Well if this board have any balls they'll get shot. He's ALWAYS been part of the problem in my eyes and has cost us millions in lost revenue in cup competitions. And the stomach churning pathetic clapping when this bunch of losers collected their 2nd prize medals was uneal and clearly shows his lack of ambition (as a manager) Can you imagine Jock Wallace with that lot. Big DJ tells a great story of when the team got humped by the sheep at pittodrie. Big Jock let them all go into the bath, and as soon as they were all in he took them out into the dressing room with all the windows open and made them all stand, shivering there asses off, until he went through them one by one! THE BOARD MUST ACT because the (now) 400k a year man WON'T do the honourable thing!

Get a grip. McCoist is useless. Great piece of team selection. I mean where would we have been if he never rushed back Black from injury. No tactics again. Everyone has went backwards under him. Open your eyes man! McIness in now!

@ 2 McInnes would be my choice but why would he leave Aberdeen? With the mess Dick Dastardly and his two Mutleys have created who would take the job? Yeah your right lots of people but with the board being like the Ant Hill Mob who is going to sack him? because he doesn't do walking away for the £412. 5K reasons soon to be back up to £825K reasons he hopes. Walter Smith thank you very much for selecting Super Ally- what did we ever do to you?

He is not now a 400k man now he rest is just deffered and now doubt there are financial benefits from the defferment ally is only for ally as I have said in the past

{Ed039's Note - not a deferment, but he will be back to his normal salary at some point)

Hey @ Ed & 1&2 I'm agreeing with you ally has had his time my point is I don't believe any manager, coach could make that squad into football players and when a change of manager happens he will need backing or it won't be long to we're calling for his head too
r. f

Who could get anything from that squad, you mean the squad that is full of players who were playing SPL football last year, International players, players who have played in Europe against a team from Fife who have barely won a game in the last 3 months. You really really need to get your head out of the sand. For some strange reason you seem to think that there is going to be pots of money available to buy the next Laudrup, the new Amoruso, a ready made Dado. sorry but that isn't happening. In the last 2 years how many young players has McCoist blooded. When you look at the Celtic team last week they had an 18yr old and a 22yr old at CB, he had a 17yr old playing cm and another 22 yr old up top. Now, Lennon has had some stick for not playing the youth BUT when you look at it he has started to bring more and more of them in, let them play a home game, get some experience of playing in front of big crowds and then he takes them out again, this is what Mccoist should have been doing not buying dross like Mohshni, Faure and the like. This club is a million miles away from a mid table SPL team never mind the top end.

Ed we had been joking about this earlier and I am being serious when I say this that anyone from this forum could do more than ally!

Mccoist doesn't fear for his job and also doesn't feel Saturday is a must win game this muppet truly hasn't got a clue the board need to act now and bring somebody in who can whip this team into shape also not one of those players looked embarrassed before going to collect their losers medal in fact they showed more eagerness to collect their medal than they did to win the game

@ 6 no I don't think there's pots of money to spend but something needs to be done as those so called players are not good enough, internationalists how many caps between them, the majority were out of contract players and would've been playing in the lower leagues with other teams if it weren't for the wages we offered NOT WORTHY OF THE HONOUR TO BE CALLED RANGERS PLAYER
r. f

@ 9 Daly was a very effective player for United in the premier league as was Law for Motherwell.
Steven Smith was an abject failure at Ibrox first time around and surprise surprise he is reaching the same level again. Dean Shields did well for both Kilmarnock and Hibs.
It is the manager that is and ALWAYS has been THE PROBLEM.

Good managers can motivate journeymen to compete with good players.
Average managers can motivate journeymen to beat part timers.

Poor excuses for managers can do neither.

All his players all his problem- a mess created only by Ally.

Sorry ed I thought his wages were defered well I suppose thas a bit of a labour gain does anyone know when they go back up