Rangers Banter Archive May 06 2013

 

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06 May 2013 23:07:04
Scott arfield released by h-town. We should be looking in that direction

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Arfield was an excellent player for Falkirk, and he would do a job for Rangers.
A box to box midfielder.

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Scott Arfield will not be looking to play in the Scottish 2nd Division! he will be looking at the championship in England. {The Ed039's Note - He would sign for Rangers no problem)

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06 May 2013 18:43:07
Maybe we should make mccoist play for his wages he seems to score more than novo

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06 May 2013 16:53:33
Just back from the legends game, a 4-1 victory. Great to see some of the old faces and the manager chipped in with two goals.

Big Albertz was the star man and scored a howitzer. There has not been a better strike at Ibrox this year.

Wee Novo was his usual hundred miles an hour stuff but missed two one on ones with the keeper. The goalie made a couple of great saves, time has been pretty kind to most of them but Amo is the size of a double decker.

Good to see the old guys but it reminds you just how far we have fallen, don't know if we will ever see the likes of Laudrup, Albertz and Mols again.

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Yep Big Jorg was class and looked fit too. sign him up for next season!

Big Bert and Alex Rae looked like they were still fit enough too and looked better than Black and Agiriou. sad days when 30/40 something ex-players look better than our current crop.

Good day and great to see these guys back at Ibrox.

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Would love to see Alex Rae back at Ibrox some day as manager. Top lad.

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@2 I didn't even know he was a manager?

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You should have locked them up and only let them back out when the season starts. Form is temporary, but class is permanent.

Shuggy

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3 - Current first team coach at Blackpool & very highly thought of. Very ambitious too.

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06 May 2013 13:39:43
Just seen our line up for Legends game, forward line of Laudrup, Novo and Mols. Is it just me or is that not better than our current attack still!

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. better yes. Affordable. nae chance!

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@1/ So it's just the money then? You would play all three in the Second division?

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I think what you should have said was Novo couldn't be any more out of place in that company lol

Brian Laudrup, Michael Mols and erm wee Nacho Novo lol

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06 May 2013 13:23:44
Board meeting today. No income, as renewals not sent out, wages& overheads for the next few months to be paid. No audited account submitted. there's something stinking from the inside in all this, yet will all sit back& watch the rollercoaster crash, time too march upon ibrox and demand answers before its de ja vu. No credit line from banks, income from div2 paltry, yet green whyte mcoist murray are all millionaires. rangers investigating rangers, is this the reason will be given as too why accounts haven't been released?or is it fear that the real figure will expose the lie of greene about millions in the bank, I fear a worse summer than last. sm

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The costs have to be reduced and quickly. How this will be done who knows, there are many ways. Was Ahmad right when he claimed Ally and Walter were harming the club moving forward? Last year, in division three, was there really a need for a full time goalkeeping coach? Did Ally really need two assistants on SPL wages? Should Murray park be sold? It costs a fortune to run, and still has a mortgage on it. If someone would just explain the true situation the fans could accept some barren years to make it survived.

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Cheer up you just celebrated winning the title, Super Ally will bore you to next seasons title, so onwards and upwards!

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Begining to think Smith and McCoist will never cut back just like socialists they can do and say what they like while other peoples money is paying for it. Les

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06 May 2013 11:01:16
How stupid does the SPL split look when the 7th. place team has 2 more points than the 6th. place team. I think heads need knocking together by the SFA who are suppose to be the games custodians in this country. their silence on all matters is deafening at the moment. No wonder our great game is in such a mess.

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I was at hillsborough on saturday and was told we have a friendly arranged with rangers in july could any of you confirm it please.

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@1) I would seriously doubt that to putting my entire wealth on it not being true at ridiculous odds on.

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No 1 Post. do you not understand the split yet? the best teams play each other so harder to get points dooo. it like starting both leagues again! Aberdeen would be top that half of league, god it not rocket science. {Ed001's Note - it still looks ridiculous though to anyone who doesn't follow Scottish football. People just look and laugh because it is such a ludicrous way to run a league.}

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It's such a ridiculous way to run a league because we're not in it anymore! Oh, how we laugh at the SPL! That kind of thing never happened when our previous incarnation was in it, did it?

When our old club was in the SPL it would never have gone along with such a silly idea. What do you mean it did?!

Feel free to ignore this post like you have most of mine, Ed. The truth hurts I suppose.

LLSTMF {Ed001's Note - don't be a fool. My team is Liverpool, but everyone laughs at the ludicrous SPL split, even when Rangers were there it was a joke. Bitter little fools like you are just wasting everyone's time posting idiotic comments. You think the SPL is great, so why is Celtic so desperate to escape it? Why are they so desperate to restructure it? Oh yes, because it is a complete disaster.}

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It's a ridiculous set up. Always was. An even worse idea was the recent proposal put forward with even more spits and start agains. Play each team an even number of times. The trick is making it work without splits and making it more lucrative.

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In all honestly it's going to be a train crash & nothing is going to save it not Celtic or rangers not 1 old firm game not 35 old firm games.

What I can't understand is Patrick thistle win division 1 & make less than 100k Dundee are relegated but make 900k? It would be a ok league with the old firm out of it but the tv companies won't be intrested. Big name or even high earners won't be in Scotland in 5 years time. As of next season Celtic are the only scottish club capplable of getting into the champions league if they pass the 3 qualifiers, Motherwell get Europa qualifiers as do 3rd place but really all 3 teams could be out the picture by the September weekend. We have about 15 maybe 20 10,000+ seaters in Scotland that only sell out or are half full most weeks. Then we get Neil Doncaster taking a 15% wage raise which can be justified how? From armature & juniors to the spl it's all ran wrong a country with 42+ teams In it has lasted well until now. Not me or you or the next guy can save this ufea or a power figure needs to save Scottish football which IMO ain't going to happen.

All these stadiums well be sold off in years to come, any business man or chairman knows Scottish football can't run at a profit

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Split is about

a) more games for the teams at bottom - who need more revenue

b) less games for those at top who have europe games.

Not about points at end of season where top of bottom section gains more than bottom of top. ?? {Ed001's Note - and how does it supply more games and less games, when they play the same number?}

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06 May 2013 00:04:40
For our club to be entrenched from one scandal and revelation to another I would like to see the fellow bears rally and support McCoist for the following reasons.

1. 12 months ago we almost didn't have a Rangers football club
2. Mccoist had little money available to him and was forced to sign trialists and players not fit under normal circumstances to wear the jersey
3. He has been the only public mouthpiece officially attached to Rangers within the last 18 months not to embarrass and degrade himself with ridiculous statements like the ones made by whyte and Green on an almost daily basis.
4. Went without pay for a period of time for the well being of the club and also bought shares
5. Has been treated abysmally by both Green and Whyte and has not walked away and continued to work away for the good of the club off the park

Yes I am the first person to admit that in my heart of hearts I don't think he is cut out to manage this club in the long term, he is due the respect and loyality from every bluenose for what he has done to hold this club together. No other manager could have done what he has done for the love of his club.

We almost did not have a club to moan about and talk about so right now the playing style after one year is not of paramount concern to Rangers our future is and getting back to where we belong. winning trophys and being simply the best.

Power Ranger

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Your point at 5 - amazing what people put up with when they are on such a huge wage and also the realization that they wouldn't get a management job at any other football club in the world! Well maybe he might get a kit manager job or even a bar manager job!

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06 May 2013 02:27:01
What a lot of mince, the guy is a crap manager. He was quite happy to jump into bed with whyte and green and he would have with bill miller or ng if he could have. He's getting a huge salary and serving up dross. Ally and his moronic back room staff should go. And as for his speech the other day?! We are the people? What rangers manager with any class would say that? He's sucking up to some of the fans of our club because he has to keep them on side and hope that they can keep him in a job. The guy is not a manager. He has no class. We will never move forward while he's there.

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I agree he will never b a manager even got knocked out of the Ramsdens cup for Gods sake, plays 4 5 1 at Ibrox and still lost 2 league games their, and I quote again, "The Rangers fans deserve and demand Cup runs" the reason he gave for bringing in Temps, Sandaza, Shiels, Kyle. Some of the kids have been better than that lot, and as for Jig can I take all the free kicks beacause I want to b the highest goal scorer please leave them to somebody else.

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Well said power ranger, some people will moan about anything, we are entitled to expect more next season especially from the seasoned pros who signed last season and let us down big stlye.

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If he isn't the man to take us forward longterm then you have really just blown your own argument our the water. He is hopeless as a manager and is being fantastically paid for the level he is operating at. He needs to go for the club to move forward

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Mccoist backed Murray, Whyte, Green. the lot

Fergus McCann walked away from celtic with £30m in his pocket - but had built a team that has survived next 10 years and gone on to higher glory - he fixed the roof and left a stable club - so he due the money.

Murray claims to have not taken a penny.

but now we see

£2million for carpark
£6m in EBT loan
£6m in EBT arrangement. management
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£14m and this is what we know. some of this hidden. (murray £6m ebt loan).

its starting to add up - what else did he financially benefit from, is his name still on the deeds, is green a front for whyte a front for murray?

Pie company? Security company. ? £18million from JBB sports (in advance) - where did all that go - we know £50m into EBT scheme, etc

No audited account. means fan just don't know.

Follow the money - simples.

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Point 2 - no money how did they sign Templeton from SPL then?

Or Sandazza on a 4-year £1.3 million contract this is not NO MONEY!

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#OP I understand some points you've made but re pt 3 think you'll find Mr mccoist demanded the names of the independent panel when the club already knew who there were causing police protection advice for panel members; pt 4 is it not the case that his shares were part if a pay deal I. e. he never paid cash for them?

I agree ally has been a great servant to the club but lowering himself to we are the people to keep gave inside is a desperate act of a desperate man

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Dont you understand this club will die with people like you?

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McCoist believes there's no such thing as bad publicity. He's wrong.
The WATP speech isn't looked well upon. It's pandering to the lowest intellect of fans. Management should remain above all that but there is a belief this is what delivers the money regardless of football. Keep playing the nobody likes us, everybody against us, but WATP card and the money will continue to flow.

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If you don't think he's good enough why support him? if he is not there on merit he is there for another reason, all of your points are what most managers would do in the same situation, but probably better, much much better. He has done nothing but damage to Rangers while filling his pockets with our cash, he even admits that's its crap and still talks about moving forward! he has also admits that the players he will sign are crap! By the time the Super Ally contingent wake up Rangers could be in a far worse position in both football and financial terms, how much are this latest bunch going to want in wages to win a league that QOS walked this season! this is beyond a joke McCoist has got to go now, we must not let him waste anymore of our money to produce the utter garbage that he does. He is dragging the club he professes to love through the gutter for £20k a week + shares + bonuses etc etc.

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At no time will we relinquish Les

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@9- Can you elaborate on "This club will die with people like you". please?
Honestly who are these people, I really hope they are from the other side.
Ed I know you've been on this bandwagon as well, but ffs give AM a chance.
Why are people on here consistently blootering Ally? There are even murmurings of discontent regarding Walter Smith! Unbelieveable. There are no other people (Messi/Ronaldo aside) lol that I would want more at our club right now than these two legends. I've been on this planet half a century and haven't seen as much vitriol directed at a Rangers manager. Ffs Paul Le Guen never got anything near as bad as this.
I really hope these people are from the other side.
Why? Because if they're our fans then I don't need #9 to explain his statement.

P. O. B.

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Fergus never took any money out of Celtic - The money he walked away with was for the sale of his shares

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@13/ People who can't face some hard facts are a problem. Ally and Walter both know the club is running at a £1m per month loss, yet refuse to accept cuts. How can you defend Ally? Poor signings, terrible performances and no tactics. He will always be a club legend, but he looks to have no idea of management. The third division playing one up? With SPL players in the team against part time players. You can't defend that mate.

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@13- and there it is, the same old attitude that if we don't back the 'Rangers men' then we must be Timmy in disguise?!
Let me clarify in advance. I agree with the 'Ally is useless and our club is full of charlatans' brigade. I am also a ST holder main stand SW3 if that helps confirm I am not Timmy.
Let me enlighten you on PLG. PLG was a young, progressive, modern football manager who's only failing was to be naïve enough to try and change too much too soon. It was supporters like you and wee Barry the crab who were unable and unwilling to see football beyond Rangers that got him the tin tack. Le Guen needed time and backing to make us into a truly modern club but he never got it. He was on a hiding to nothing at Rangers because he 'wasn't a Rangers man' so when results domestically were ropey everyone was on his case. Forget the fact that his record in Europe was unbeaten finishing top of the UEFA cup group. Compare this to Ally at the moment but Ally can say "We Are The People" and that makes everyone think he's the man for the job! WTF. gies peace! FFS. when are we going to get a grip and stop with all this staunch p15h! I'm fu**ing embarrassed by our club at the moment and a huge amount of our supporters, not to mention Scottish football as a whole. What other football club would get rid of a manager 9 months into his contract because he took away wee Barrys monster munch?!
It's a total joke and we are the butt of it. Unfortunately lots of you aren't bright enough to see the club we love are taking the p155 out of us.

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@16/ Well said that man! Le Guen had a track record but needed time to change the whole club round. It was the same at Manchester United when Sir Alex took over. Too many big shots players who thought they ruled the place. Fergie got shot of them, got shot of the drinking culture and changed the whole club from top to bottom. Would Le Guen have done the same? Who knows, a 'rangers man' and his big ego would not let him. Ferguson had far too much say at Ibrox at that time. Murray should have backed Le Guen.

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#16, spot on mate, very true and passionate statement. Btw can people stop the simples crap really annoying.

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@16. - I said I hoped the Ally booters were Celtic fans because I could understand the relentless abuse directed at our manager.
What I don't get is why people like you have such deep resentment for a man who is Rangers through and through. Perhaps you can explain that to me?
Ironically you try to make a case for PLG and saying he should have been given more of a chance.
Well you can apply the same argument to AM.

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@16 brilliant post mate and totally agree with everything you have said! The quicker either the supporters @13 are either educated correctly about modern football teams or told to get away from the club, the quicker The Rangers can move forward! These persons who miss the old days are a hindrance and need to move along as there is nothing to see for their type!

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Excellent post. Should read Graham Spiers book on PLG. Fantastic insight into a lot of what is bad with Rangers, written couple years before recent problems! Funny also that the people at Rangers whom PLG had a problem with, Ferguson, McGuinness, Boyd. etc. were all booted out not so long after! McGuiness left within a week. Ferguson, a law unto himself within a season and Boyd, a player the media at the time were saying should be picked week in week out, but PLG dropped for the big games. well didn't Walter do exactly the same? For Scotland and for Rangers! And the media. said nothing! PLG on a hiding to nothing simply because he wasn't a WATP man. It's this mentality the club needs shot of!

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