Rangers Banter Archive May 06 2012

06 May 2012 22:19:29
I swear this rfc scenario alot less more confusing than my wife,
She does my napper,
Anybody any jokes to lighten me up,
Good old rfc rumours n banter
Atleast you n posters n edds dont fry the brain

One of my wee clean favourites is, statistically 6 out of 7 dwarves aren't happy
Nevis

Wats a s**tzu? A zoo with no animals in... CheltBlue

My best friend has just died of severe heart burn! i cant believe Gav is gone :) ntbear

What's ET short for?

Because he has wee legs.

1903

What happened to the vegeterian that died there was a big turnip at his funeral

Why was the mushroom invited to all the parties.....


because he is a FUNGHI

06 May 2012 17:40:05
Go read alex thompsons blog on rfc,scottish football,inergrity,duff&duffer,miller etc....He seems to be the only journalist that talks any sense& truth too whats going on....stevo

Alex thomson has been to 2 Scottish football games in his life and yet he knows everything about the spl/sfa, aye right.

The guy is a glove puppet for Celtic fans nothing more. He tried to dig some dirt on Rangers and failed big time his big mega story on Rangers, someone at the club had an ebt {wow}.

Well you don't expect the Scottish hacks to dig any dirt on their beloved team do you?

He is at least questioning things though, you have to admit if the DR run a piece on Miller and he runs a piece on miller you will need to take less salt with Thomsons piece, never thought i would write about thomsons salty piece but its done now though.
Nevis

Paranoid you certainly are!!!so 1 person had an EBT??dumba$$....many games has bill miller been too????stevo

@4 How many games had the onwers of Man city, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool been to before taking over, who cares?

Really don't care if Miller was Rangers fan of the year or had never been to a game in his life as long as he gets shot of Whyte,BTC,Ticketus etc.

As for Thomson as i wrote in in reply one his big mega story on Rangers was Bain had an EBT!! WOW!! stop the press,

The guy has wasted months trying to get a story on Rangers and failed plus he made himself look like a mug on live radio as well into the bargain.

I actually agree with Alex Thomson, I'd rather us start in division 3 and work our way back, it's certainly better than struggling away in the SPL. My only issue with the article is when he says "This is the time for leadership, above all from Rangers Football Club." He seems to have missed a point here, Rangers are being run by an administrator, it's not up to the fans or even Ally McCoist what division we play in, we all have our preferences but our fate will be decided for us.

GovanFR

@1, you do know that you make yourself look dumb and hopeless right, you say he he has only been to 2 games which ur saying how little he knows but then you say he is a Celtic fan. tell me how does that make sence? as he even said he does not follow spl or is a supporter of any club.
Yous just look so pathetic because of this thinking...he asked the simple questions which yous and your loved media papers,spl did not do and didnt want to do, ask why? and think is it realy all Celtic paranoia? for it seems that if ppl dont think the way you do or agree with you they are all Celtic fans. maybe if you did ask questions you would find the answers and maybe could have helped better your clubs situation.

@7 the guy openly admits he took part the huddle when Celtic scored in the last old firm game how objective is that? Oh and i never wrote he was a Celtic fan only a glove puppet of them.

He has written 18 blogs on Rangers in 2 months more than the war in Afghanistan,politics and the economy put together. Is what going on at Rangers the most important news story in the entire world right now, looks like Thomson thinks so.

Can someone tell me what this guy has actually uncovered in this story?

He openly admitted to doing the bouncey at ibrox so whats your point?hes in daily contact with whyte daily,something that rfc duff& phelps should be,but arent,weird eh

06 May 2012 16:10:14
Bill Miller
For a long time the Rangers support was widely touted as all being behind the Blue Knights. The reality we are far too divided a group for that to ever have been true. Many like me doubted the spin these were genuine Rangers fans. I think it is fair comment to conclude Paul Murray for was too tainted by his association with the old board to be considered a genuine guy and Brian Kennedy is not a Rangers fan.
The worry is whether we can trust Miller? It has been speculated he is a front for everyone from Alastair Johnson to Craig Whyte to Club 9 to the Scientologists (no really). This won't make me popular but anyone looking for a bit of background on Miller would do well to have a read of the latest article on rangerstaxcase.com. I appreciate Rangers fans are reluctant to go on there. Often the comments section appears little more than the Jelly and Ice Cream Brigade with degrees. The main articles though often contain very interesting information. The latest effort was by the author's own admission an exercise in digging into Miller's past in the hope of discovering a Craig Whyte scale disaster piece. Credit where it is due he is honest enough to disclose that what he found was the opposite. I won't try and pass off his work as my own so have a look. In general terms his analysis fits with a growing consensus about Miller which is that he is a shrewd, he is (for a business man) a straight guy, he keeps costs down which has meant a good performance despite the current recession/depression, and this purchase would appear to be a business decision not something born out of a love for Rangers or the sport.
Should that matter? I am split on this. Obviously it is comforting to know that the guy in charge has the club at heart. In rebuilding though we simply cannot allow the heart to over rule business sense. Miller does not appear to be someone who will seek to appease criticism from the stands by splashing out on a new striker. This suggests a man whose philosophy is in keeping with Fergus McCann. I am sure there are not too many Celtic fans now who feel good about him being booed near the end of his ownership. Yes his frugal ways must have frustrated at the time but in the long run he was absolutely right.
The other question regarding Miller if we accept this is a business play is how he expects to make a profit? We are told there will be an initial £11m up front. I would imagine when you factor in advisor fees and working capital/capex spending you are probably talking about an investment of £20m. Is it realistic to think in 5 years Rangers will be restored to challenging for the league and playing in Europe? Is it realistic to assume the club will be run on a more commercial and professional basis? From what I see of Miller's past I'd say yes. It is a long road but it is not impossible. At this point would he be able to sell via a share issue? (This was how he exited his main truck haulage business) I would hope that the support would relish the chance to take the club into fan ownership after the horrors of the last year. Celtic plc have issued share capital of £24m. Is it realistic to suppose Miller could raise £30m? That equates to 30,000 shares at £1,000 each. I'd class that as challenging. If achieved though that represents a 50% return on his money in 5 years which would be an excellent piece of business in the current climate.

An excellent well balanced post.The RTC blog has taken undeserved stick from your fans, but if more had read it Whyte might not have walked into ibrox so easily.

Big difference from 1994 and 2012 was the economy is booming back then and people had money we are on the verge of a double recession.

A grand for one share, now that is a good deal. Noone in their right mind would by shares in a football club, never going to gain.

How many Rangers fans buying shares knowing the money not going into Rangers but into Millers back pocket? Also he only sells non voting shares or 30% shares keeping 70% for himself.

06 May 2012 15:32:00
Iwas listening to a couple of sports programs yesterday and the people who phone in that dont want Rangers in the SPL saying that its the integraty of sport that should keep them out , me listening to it I thought it was pure hatred of Rangers comeing across from them ,well if they dont want Rangers in the SPL then we should go to 3rd Division if allowed make our way up the leagues again , make the smaller clubs a bit of money , plus start to repay our debts, because its just comeing across as pure hatered.

It's not hatred, you just think it is because people want integrity to be maintained. You'd want the same if you were in their position.

Not hatred,just wanting to see the punishment fit the crime.you got off lightly last time and marched to hampden! dont you get it?

Integrity? from the club that winges about every decision that goes against them, that caused the refs to strike, who's manager spends more time in stands than the touch line, that are incapable of showing shame or remorse. get over yourself. your argument is well rough but that's okay, I'm in te grity.

Oh and what was the crime exactly?

Are you talking about the manager of the month by any chance.

@3: if that was a response to my post, #1, I'm not a Celtic fan. Why did you assume I was? Now you just look silly.

3/how do you know post 1 and 2 are from celtic fans?

3/What was the crime? are you really that far in denial?

Post 5 and 6 not from celtic fans, BS.

@8: posts 1 and 5 were mine and I'm definitely not a Celtic fan. You just assume everyone who comes on here and says something you don't like is. There are other clubs, you know, and their fans can comment on the mess your club is in too, you know.

The football world is bigger then the Old Firm, remember, even if you arrogantly presume it's not.

06 May 2012 13:12:23
Relaxing Sunday listening to Ceptic fans singing all their rebel offensive classics! Utter disgraceful...

What like hail hail, walk on, the Celtic chorus or maybe Henrik Larsson king of kings, what a complete knob you are

Just as disgusting as Rangers fans singing their bigoted number. Face it: both clubs have a problem that needs to be eradicated.

Does the boys of the old brigade bother you??mmmmm the queen hounerd them last year....

3/ and apologised for the behaviour of britain too.

06 May 2012 12:44:10
Celtic fans are telling the SFA not to let Rangers fans tell the SFA!!! and say that Rangers fans shouldn't protest against the sanctions but want to protest against the sanctions being changed. I think their heads are disapearing up our erses. lol. lol.

06 May 2012 12:20:36
Q. If bill miller pulls out after trolling the books and decides he ain't interested then the BK wouldn't have enough time to save us ? A. Duff n Phelps would have to liquidated us selling of Ibrox, Murray park and the Alboin players would be free to sign for whoever leaving a Mr Craig Whyte rather rich as he'd be and still is the main creditor , sorry for answering my own question but that's how it stands , This isn't over yet ... The airport bear

But - if BM does not like what he sees and Rangers are liquidated Ibrox becomes flats or a supermarket, MP becomes a local authority asset, the players pack their bags and go - just what is left to run but a subway station? I ask as a neutral who have been to only one game at Celtic Park,once to Ibrox and three times to Hamden. Saw THE Alex James play once.

06 May 2012 11:55:37
If the SPL chairmen don't grow a pair tomorrow and reject the prospect of rangers (newco with no history or tradition) playing in the SPL, they better be aware that EUFA are watching the situation very closely and if they get involved Scottish football is finished. Why do you think the Swiss FA have taken tough sanctions against their member teams.

If they do grow a pair expect all SPL clubs and the National team to banned from al UEFA/FIFA competitions for competing under a false coefficient with the full working knowledge of the governing body oh dear oh dear

Dunno?

do tell!

bill72

A Swiss club belonging to Chechen businessman Bulat Chagaev have lost their appeal against their expulsion from the league over financial irregularities, the Swiss Football League said Thursday.

Neuchatel Xamax lost their playing license last week after the SFL ruled that the club was suspected of falsifying a bank document used as a guarantee when Chagaev bought the club in May 2011.

The club unsuccessfully appealed to the commercial court in the Swiss canton of Bern and the regional court of Bern-Mittelland, saying the SFL disciplinary committee did not have the authority to exclude them.

# 1 That doomday scenario might be the best way out for some time. I can not remember being proud of any aspect of Scottish football for many years'. I can remember much embarrassment by association.

Couldn't happen here. Rangers have the authorities in their back pocket - or wherever the ill gotten money is/was. (confusing when the richest in the land becomes the poorest but still throws money around.)

06 May 2012 09:29:17
Come 1st June will Newco revert to pre Administration conditions ie all paycuts reinstated therefore back to losing 10 million per year. BM has big job on his hands

Back pay is an oldco debt and will come out of the CVA pot.

06 May 2012 08:36:07
Having posted a number of statements on this website on Friday Evening and Saturday saying Bill Miller will walk.
Unfortunately the statements were removed.

Latest Rumour. there's an Indian wealthy investor who's currently looking to purchase but I doubt he'll complete within 7 days.

Sitting BULL perhaps?

bill72 {Ed022's Note - Oh now this is a fantastic post. I may be little, but I do have a big horn! Get it? Little-Big-Horn? Pah!}

06 May 2012 05:52:32
Just been told that Miller is thinking of
changing the RFC crest so that fans
have to buy new tops /posters etc..
to raise the cash while the funds dry
up (no europe no cups no cash)
Checked the www and the same idea
tried by ManU and LPool so we need
to do the same as their fans and kill the
idea ASAP. this guy is in it for profit.
We need someone with a spare 100Million
or we are bust, SFA know this for sure.
Yes Sfootball will struggle but we go
down..

Money men killing the game for sure.
SDM is the still the main suspect..
keep you posted...

Alternatively the fans could each put a couple of hundred £ in. Sorry stupid idea supporters don't that much, doubt if there is another club in the world where their fans would not pay such a small sum to save the club.

1.)
Makes you wonder why EVERY club doesn't do this as an annual transfer pot :-))

bill72

06 May 2012 01:45:29
just watched the players walk round the park on sky plus and seen sasa papac with his kids stopping for a photo
just saying sasa has been the most consistent player at ibrox since he came wish you well, sasa all the best
watp
big stutheblue

06 May 2012 00:29:12
Really love the ad at top of page ''if you have a £250000 portfolio'' yeah 9 out10 of us on this site do.

If 9 out of 10 of you did, 6 or 7 out of those 9 wouldn't put money into Rangers. Bradford Bulls fans raise half a million to save their club; Rangers fans - fans of a bigger club - raise 80% of that. Best support in the world? Maybe not.