Rangers Banter Archive June 06 2015

 

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06 Jun 2015 21:00:18
I think its a bit obvious what most peoples views on super ally are and I myself didn't think he was any good as a manager myself but when the unthinkable happened a few years I didn't see many socalled rangers men step up to the challenge so as much as he was inept as a manager he will always be a legend in my eyes for giving me so many joyful memories and fantastic old firm goals so thank you mr mcCoist for all your effort

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06 Jun 2015 22:26:07
The man is an imposter and is no club legend

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06 Jun 2015 22:47:43
I'm no fan but am I wrong in thinkin that this guy is your all time top goal scorer? Fair enough he struggled as manager but he's hardly an impostor! I'm bettin U cheered every time this so called impostor hit the back of the net for use??

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07 Jun 2015 00:12:23
OP Step up to the challenge? The ONLY reason Ally stepped up to the challenge was the £17,,000 a week he received for his troubles mate, he was the highest paid "Manager" in Scottish football.

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07 Jun 2015 07:58:54
Mccoist the is a club legend, just like John Greig just because he was an abysmal manager doesn't take away all his goals. that front 3 of mccoist hately and mo johnstone is the best we have ever had.

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07 Jun 2015 09:32:15
Club legends walk away from clubs that are struggling financially when things aren't working out , they don't squeeze every penny they can out of them.

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07 Jun 2015 12:24:47
As far as Ally being a Club legend, possibly but his Rangers team mates made him that, Ally needed loads of chances to score, I'd like to see how his goals to chances stacks up. Luckily for him at Rangers when he played Rangers strikers got upwards of five clear cut chances a game, except for in Europe where Ally's record isn't nearly so good.

I'm not knocking Ally but any half decent striker would have scored plenty at Rangers, remember Marco Negri, I think it was 26 he scored before Christmas and all 5 against Dundee Utd one game. I don't think he was a wonder striker, he never done it anywhere else.

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07 Jun 2015 12:31:58
Mr ranger john Greig wasn't any good as a manager but still has the respect of his peers and seen as a legend at our great club. I was just giving my opinion on super ally as a footballer first as that was who I grew up watching

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07 Jun 2015 14:12:15
Well what do people say about Mark hateley the he was in bed with this board so to speak getting a pay check for "pr"

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07 Jun 2015 15:03:00
Comparing McCoist with John Greig is ridiculous, both were good players but one has devoted his life to the club, the other took millions out of the already ailing club while destroying it from within.
John Greig may not have been the greatest manager but he has always had Rangers best interests at heart, which is precisely why he walked away from the club McCoist and his bosses where building, he knew he could stop it and didn't want to be part of it, unlike McCoist who couldn't wait to give them ALL his "official" approval and reap the very generous rewards, which he will continue to reap until December thanks to that contract he never read!

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09 Jun 2015 10:39:52
as far as manager in the days that john greig was there there were no goal keeping coaches no assistant coaches no fitness coaches the board decided who they were buying john greig would have to do almost everthing includind ordering the pies not one bit of help they the albion training ground they had to basically run round macoist had more indians helping him thancochice there is no comparison between the 2 greig can always hold his head high with the way he served the club something macoist will never ever be able to do and wih the exception of whyte and green the club have always looked after him

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06 Jun 2015 16:49:01
The more I hear Mark Warburton speak, the more impressed I get. This is the man we should get as our new manager. He has a vision for a club, a direction, and the passion to do it. We as fans have to be patient, I have not enjoyed the last 3 years 2 hollow league titles, dreadful football, and as a club we went backwards under Ally's command. I want a man at the helm with a long term vision, a belief in youth, and a desire to play good football. I think Mr Warburton is that man, I hope we don't miss out on this guy, it would be a disaster.Mr King and the board must act quickly, they know the fans will get impatient waiting for the new era to start.

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06 Jun 2015 17:54:10
Safetyman2 why is there a delay?

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06 Jun 2015 18:13:37
Chris02, you know as well as I and many Rangers fans, a week is an eternity in football, we need a recruitment programme, which will only begin with a new manager in place. The new season will be upon us, we have no team to speak off, some promising young players, bear in mind we finished 3rd last year. What do you suggest? Time is an issue, Mr King and the board are obviously looking about, but time is the enemy at present, I may well be wrong. We all want the right guy to lead our great club, my point is, Warburton has shown all the right credentials to lead a new revolution at our club. Fingers crossed we make the right decision, or we will languish in the lower league again.

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06 Jun 2015 18:42:38
Would you not say you are in a weaker position now than you have ever been. Your squad finished third in the second tier of Scottish football. You have a depleted squad. No manager. No plan in motion for any funds. I'm constantly shot down on here saying I'm obsessed. No I'm not. You believe the dross you read in the papers. Always been your problem. You are a loss making company. Where are these millions coming from. Answers please.

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06 Jun 2015 19:13:46
martybhoy78 don't you worry mate we will be fine as for you wanting a answer on the millions a don't think you will get one unless you have david kings phone number he is the only one that seems to no as of yet

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06 Jun 2015 19:17:41
It won't necessarily be about money, Rangers will have to be careful how they spend, the patient building of a team over a couple of years, before we can contemplate a real challenge to a dominant Celtic, But Malkybhoy, you know you need a Rangers team to push you on, the last couple of seasons have taken the edge from your own team,we will be back, but it will take time. The finances will be put in place, and wisely spent.

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06 Jun 2015 22:56:38
Really can't c u bring back for years.

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06 Jun 2015 23:01:13
Safety2man . I agree finances will be put in place and the money will be spent wisely
Surely every management everywhere aims to spend money wisely, and it is only in hindsight when it is known if the money was spent wisely .
Surely it would be helpful for fans to know who was spending what amount of money before they spend their hard earned cash on season books .

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07 Jun 2015 00:51:40
Football is a fickle game Marty.

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07 Jun 2015 06:39:21
Safety man I think he's right you now find yourselves in the worse position in sinse liquidation. No money,no real income,no players and no manager. You have a chairman who has yet to provide any clues to how he's going to fund the massive rebuilding process required in every aspect at the club. You have your main financial backer at war with said chairman who has yet to reveal his true intentions for the club and you can rest asure they won't be in the fans nest interests. I can't see how this bodes well in the monument task you face trying to attract a reputable manager and a playing squad anyway capable of competing in the spfl top league never mind challenging Celtic,don't believe the media when it comes to linking names with the job. I think you'll go round the doors then end up with the only man who really wants the Job,mcall. Your right though Celtic do need a strong challenge sadly I can't see it coming from govan not without monumental Investment from someone who has no interest in ever seeing the money again! Ashley? Honest Dave??

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07 Jun 2015 09:26:51
Where/when did you hear Warburton speak safety man?
You say he impressed you very much,I'd like to hear what he had to say.Where can I find this piece?

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07 Jun 2015 15:26:45
There was a video on Facebook of Warburton talking about the next-gen series probably find it on YouTube

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06 Jun 2015 16:14:49
some posters I just cannot beleive the way they rant and rave we are in the process of engaging a new manager we are only aweek on from from finding out where we will be playing next season they are involved in dialouge with mash trying to alter the terms of loans until we have a manager and see what players he wants to bring in we will be having a new share issue which king and the 3 bears have agreed to underwrite which means all the shares will be sold then they they will know what funds they then have to put into the club in the form of loans or whatever they have already made loans to help cash flow they have spent a considerable amount to purchase shares to wrestle control of the club from ashley and co yet there are fans on here demanding millions immediately things will be done in the manner they should be (the first time for a few years) we also have a board now who are not taking hanful of monies out the club with corrupt contracts and back door payments so let's give the club a chance purchase our season books and move upwards and onwards without all crap that's being posted

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06 Jun 2015 16:31:26
Surely that's what this site is for? Rangers fans to.give there view on how they feel and what they would like to see happen at the club everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The main problem is we have all been deficated on from a great height for the last few years so yes we are impatient but our continued support is not In question all we want is to find out exactly what is going on behind the scenes at the club and how we are moving forward

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06 Jun 2015 16:40:34
bigwull do you see any point in trying to engage with mash cause he will just tell us to take a hike so is pointless I can remember seeing anything about 3 bears and king underwriting the share issue so all shares are sold I only remember them saying they would invest in it fans are not demanding millions right away but would been nice to start on a even keel with our opponents for once they should have had a manager lined up and in the door the after the final day of season and signing clubs are already signing players and we ain't even got a manager Warburton is the manager to take us forward not back words like all the other ex rangers mangers mentioned we need a new set of eyes on things with no one associated to the club look it diela at Celtic managers need time not a few weeks

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06 Jun 2015 17:01:13
craigs8688 Great post. Dealing with MASH is not the priority at this vital moment in time. Getting in a manager and players is.

Was on the phone to a pal who is a Blackpool and Rangers fan last night and he spoke about seeing Brentford play Blackpool in London earlier in the year. He said Brentford were great to watch, keen to go forward whenever possible, fit and knew how to pass the ball with confidence. The more I hear about Warburton the more I think he could be a breath of fresh air at Ibrox.

Hopefully he is not just using us to put himself in the shop window for another English club.

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06 Jun 2015 17:58:48
Surely Warburton won't leave until he hears the sound of Champions League Football at Ibrox .

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06 Jun 2015 18:31:46
naz your mate is spot on I watched the highlights every sat night and they would be guaranteed to score a few goals when there games where on playing football the right way not a lump up the park like the rest of managers at rangers previously even mccall resorted to this again Motherwell even before they scored first goal in second leg Warburton will be there for long term at least 3 4 years I would say
forget bout mash the team should be the priority just now and a new manager

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06 Jun 2015 19:30:01
i bet it is worth talking to him because ashley and his serfs think they are clever but I am quite sure they left some evidence of wrondoings possibly with white and green the one thing ashley needs to stay ahead in his buisness empire is a ten carat gold reputation and if there evidence then its definetly time to engage with ashley I am also quite sure that evidence will exist hence the silence about what is happening

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06 Jun 2015 21:01:39
Chris like your going to hear the champions league theme anytime soon unless uefa change the rules to let u have 3 or 4 goes at reaching the group stages,wise up fella,you're no better than a mediocre English championship side playing in the worst Scottish premerleague in recent history,you will only spend money when we are back in that hate filled league,why not worry bout you're own shortcomings,we will take care of ourselves and when the time comes we will be ready. How was Ofest today mate hope u haven't overdone the celebrations.

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06 Jun 2015 23:06:35
Soronbear , I don't understand what league you are calling the hate- filed league , maybe you could explain . Person all I didn't see many examples of love - filled play-off games .

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07 Jun 2015 08:00:00
There is no love in Scottish government football lol the fans of same teams can't even get along.

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07 Jun 2015 08:19:38
Blind as well as deaf are we, the hand of friendship and cup of human kindness hardly overflows from yourselves,the Sheep and the Arabs to name just a few,when the obsessed fans of these clubs decide to sing it's invariably to direct hate filled bile at us,whilst making our way back up through the lower leagues it was a pleasure to go the away games 95% of them were more than welcoming,I would say in the spfl you could reverse that percentage. Yous even have a Web page dedicated to us to which you and other Tim posters on here are the contributors of bigotry. This by the way is only my observation but then again apparently I'm bitter.

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06 Jun 2015 15:23:07
When dave king brings the cheque book out the rest of scottish won't be laughing at us rangers destroyed its self with greed for glory now aye hope we get youth with experience at the spine of the team we need 2 quality cb and quality attacking midfielder and let the youth do the rest believe and trust in king he's doing it the right way taking his time and making sure the same mistake don't happen again we don't want to go gun hoe and do panic signing again WATP

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06 Jun 2015 18:43:54
Are you drunk. Millions. Come on. We don't even spend millions now. What planet are you on.

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06 Jun 2015 14:53:29
Onto thing brighter and better dave king will be in glasgow next week to name the manager next week which will be alex mcleish as dof

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06 Jun 2015 15:11:05
My fingers are firmly crossed that this is wrong

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06 Jun 2015 15:54:19
Alex mcleish got us to the last 16 in champion league with no money think again

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06 Jun 2015 16:01:21
How many youngsters did he bring through

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06 Jun 2015 16:20:54
Another step backwards as for having no money to do it don't make me laugh new fresh blood is what the club needs a whole new ethos and structure not back to the old boys brigade don't get me wrong I think he's a fantastic manager just think we need to be thinking more out the box this time we have a second chance at making a long term strategy and mcleish isn't the way forward for me

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06 Jun 2015 16:26:52
Also he made probably 2-3 good signings the rest are surely.up there with the worst in club history

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06 Jun 2015 16:54:50
Ok with no money with not really quality signing he still got us to last 16 with knowledge of the game wether he played for aberdeen or not he was a good manager grow up

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06 Jun 2015 17:42:46
No money, I'm sure he spent the same if not a bit more than Celtic

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06 Jun 2015 17:47:17
I like mcleish he done really well against a good celtic team but its time for change Warburton are cathro for me we have to have a coach who has a history for working with youngsters I personally don't think we will get any of them 2. hope i'm wrong though! As for the Portuguese coach I think it would be to big a gamble to bring him in to work in Scottish championship it would be such a culture shock for him.

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06 Jun 2015 19:22:41
Please no more ex rangers players or previous managers , we need to get away from this blinkered approach .The next manager should be appointed on ability only ,played golf this morning with an Ipswich town supporter he said Brentford were a brilliant team to watch played it on the deck,I thought wouldn't that be nice to see rangers playing with the ball on the grass ,hopefully we make the right decision .

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06 Jun 2015 22:31:21
Who mentioned Aberdeen follow follow?

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06 Jun 2015 23:08:15
Follow follow , surely you mean if , not when Charles King gets his cheque book out .

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07 Jun 2015 18:57:12
Mr Murray clarified today that they hoped to have a Manager in place by Friday .

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06 Jun 2015 13:58:01
The heat and the slagging super ally get on here is a joke the guy was trying to build a team when we were in div 3 aye think a lot of fellow bears forgot that he could not sign anyone and there were no funds for him once the transfer embargo was lifted he signed players who wanted to player for rangers in that division who were we going to sign and the same in other division but of course it go back to money he was on think about it fellow bears stop listen to paper talk

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06 Jun 2015 14:09:47
Follow follow I don't need to "listen to paper talk" to no that every player signed by mccoist deteriorated under his coaching. I don't no why people still defend him. let's just move on

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06 Jun 2015 14:49:45
If grown men like nicky law, templeton, Wallace need a manger to keep them good players then maybe they aren't very good. At 25/26 years old you shouldn't need someone to teach you how to play football. Especially when you have played at the top level of Scottish football for years.

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06 Jun 2015 15:20:22
follow follow macoist was possibly the worst manager rangers have everhad he could not build leggo bricks had the second biggest budget in scotland by far was the highest paid manager in scotland that does not include the shares he was given resigned from position and gets a years wages he is certainly a poor downtrodden soul who was taken for amug what planet have u been on for the last few years follow follow

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06 Jun 2015 16:02:39
Bigwull aye always knew mccoist didn't walk away plus who did you think he was going to sign in lower league it was never going to be great players think about it a good player wouldn't sign for us only ones that was after money

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06 Jun 2015 18:48:54
That useless waste of space Judas deserves all the slagging he gets and more, he is worse than White, Green etc combined.

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06 Jun 2015 19:14:40
you must be on the wind up if your trying to defend the disgraceful job the inept one did at the club. He has caused more long term damage than anything Whyte or Green did. The man is an imposter and is the worst manager in the club's history. He was tactically inept, totally clueless and ruined every player he managed

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06 Jun 2015 11:10:43
now now children its more to the point the board promised transparency months down the line we hear nothing so is it any wonder why fans are asking questions an announcement or some sort would have been the decent thing for the board to do instead of leaving us to argue between ourselves at the very least the should have had a manager lined up if they think dealing with ashley when king previously said he is no danger to them is more important than getting a manager and players signed up then they have got it wrong the team should always come first we where left to play catch up last season and by looks of things we are going to have to again and any manager should not be blamed and start of season if we are trailing in the league again I do not hate mr king murray ect they will be good for the club but they need get a move on with sorting things and need stop all the silly promises you can not build trust on broken promises hibs have all ready signed Carmichael and Keatings so you do not have to wait till the window opens to sign players let the as for tims jumping on to our post I couldn't care bout them its banter our fans do not demand the board chuck millions at us but I do think they need step up and take the burden of the fans at match it pound for pound with what the supporters put in realisticly we are going need most of the money this season to build a squad a blind man can see that fans are just frustrated at the pace of movement from the board they will get time to prove us wrong but like at any other football club they will also get scrutinised
that is just part of football and even more so at our club due to the problems we have had

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06 Jun 2015 10:48:43
Well it back again mccoist is not on gardening leave he was fired and paid in full and has to be quiet about it moshni nothing to lose now and he had came out with the truth now only thing about that why has dk not says anything about it

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06 Jun 2015 12:10:10
If it is true and part of the confidentiality clause is it is not be revealed then obviously he cannot make reference to it but it strikes me as being a bit of a strange one to put in as what difference does it make that he has been paid in full but cannot take a job until his year is up . But sums up the old board nicely really

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06 Jun 2015 15:30:21
if he has been paid in full it must have been in the last few weeks because there have been statements made that he was still being paid both to aim and news papers and if the old board had paid him up king and co would have said so but as far as it goes macoist is history albeit disasterious he should never be allowed back inside the confines of ibrox or murray park

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06 Jun 2015 16:06:47
That canny be right aboot mccoist did the board nae try to get him to come to some agreement ower is wages.

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06 Jun 2015 17:03:29
Must be true if deluded ned and all round bombscare Mohsni said it is.

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06 Jun 2015 09:29:03
Personally for me if the board fail to tie down Warburton it will be a huge loss nobody has a bad word to say about him and we need to gamble on a new direction. As for all you fans suggesting mcleish get a grip please we need to move forward not backwards no ex manager should even be considered. Time for the board to pull the finger out there is about of work to be done by a new manager

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06 Jun 2015 10:16:42
I agree to an extent azzlee but I can't agree that its time to gamble I think the opposite I think its time for stability, the question is is Warburton a gamble.

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06 Jun 2015 10:29:10
Jyf fair point perhaps gamble was the wrong word I think Warburton is a step in the right direction and that's what we need a change of direction and a fresh approach although I agree 100% we need stability

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06 Jun 2015 10:39:15
i now see it saying in the paper smith could return as manager if the job is not sorted out soon this is becoming a joke with all the ex managers players mentioned new direction needed not old friend reunion act the Portuguese manager could be getting sacked by his club so the club could move for him again aswel

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06 Jun 2015 10:54:30
Nothing wrong with Smith for me. He is a truly great Ranger AND manager what is there to object to?

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06 Jun 2015 10:57:21
Craigs8688. any manager rangers approach,of a decent reputation will want big bucks,they no gers need back up asap.and are entering the desparation faze,we are a couple of weeks behind hibs on moves.i just hope the board have been on the blower 24/7 making moves,we have spent crazy money on ally,but it would be worth paying for a proven manager/coach.pay the money get them in and get new players through the door.my first singning amoung many would be a goalie,bell's level is not rangers,liability,even before sundays howler.

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06 Jun 2015 11:18:15
jyf just think it time for a change of direction ye Walter record was good but leave that in the past
i agree laudrup22 we should spend a wee bit more to get the right manager in and Warburton is the man for me the Portuguese manager I don't no nothing about so can't comment on him yeh bell has defiantly got to go Alexander was better than him being saying this about bell for while now

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06 Jun 2015 11:49:56
Craigs8688. wallace,stik or get rid?watch him in all play off games at ibrox.plenty space to use his speed and power against 1 defender. but nope passes inside every time,not the same player.law. p45.miller. tries,but lost 2 seconds on pace.mcgregor. duries still out for me.murdoch. a wee shining light,if he is coached right he will get even better.hardie. looks dangerous on wing,again coached right we could have a player.

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06 Jun 2015 12:46:18
I'd take Walter in a minute, though it would only be a short term fix. The man commands respect from everywhere in the football world. I think the fans would buy into it no problem. Legend!

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06 Jun 2015 13:13:38
Walter smith would only take the job if he had £30m min to spend, and another £20m next year. Smith does not blood young players, he was a cheque book manager.

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06 Jun 2015 13:50:50
laudrup22 for me I am same with wallace there is no end product with him and his defending is questionable because he is two far up field then we get on the counter I see point if he was whipping good crosses ect into the box but he doesn't I can not see him leaving but if offered money for him I would take it and get a left back who can defend law and miller should leave but yet again can not see it happing due to having to rebuild rest of squad magreger would keep him murdoch needs prove himself tom walsh is that the winger you mean he needs start most games next season along with our striker ryan hardie we need get rid of dead wood and gel the youngsters with a 4 5 quality players then I would be excited for the season a head new goalkeeper new right back new centre back new centre mid and new striker off good quallity should be top of the list then put youngsters around them

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06 Jun 2015 15:39:41
we do not need walter if there are no stickout candidates macall should be given a 1 year contract I still think warburton would be a risk because u must ask urself why did he not get his contract renewed when the brentford were playing well and the press were heaping praise on him something does not seem right if he was that good and he has had no top class offers in period leading up from the time it was announced his contract was not being renewed

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06 Jun 2015 08:12:24
With the season over we turn our attention to international football to get our footie fix so with that does anyone else feel that the game against ireland should be cancelled with sporting integrity being compromised.How can you admit to taking bribes then carry on as if nothing happened? The sfa shoul refuse to play the ties and Scotland should be awarded all six points.

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06 Jun 2015 09:21:41
Lol , think the sfa might be more worried about someone telling the public where there own bodies are buried.

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06 Jun 2015 10:02:59
I suppose so fab1 but the difference is that the sfa haven't admitted anything the fai have.

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06 Jun 2015 15:37:54
Jyf, getting the excuses in early .
Scotland won't stop us on the road to France, hopefully if will be a good game.
Early prediction, 3-1 Eire.

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06 Jun 2015 15:44:06
ireland were awarded a compensation package not a bribe henrie defo handled the ball into the net ireland threatened to sue f I f a over the incident and basically it was settled without a court case so how can it be viewed as a bribe it was all documented at he time

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{Ed001's Note - it was not documented at the time mate. They had a loan of 5m which no one knew had been turned into a gift.}

 
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