Rangers Banter Archive June 06 2012

06 Jun 2012 23:04:03
There is so much information regarding funding that should have been forthcoming from this meeting, that doesn't appeared to have been disclosed, one can only surmise that Green used the renaming initiative as a strategy to deflect RFFF's attention from the matters that count.

06 Jun 2012 21:51:43
I think you will get a 3 month suspension, all games awarded to opposition a 2-0 win, let's you start your campaign in November, still in with a chance of salvation but well and truly punished, anything less too soft. Would keep sky on board as it would generate excitement to see if you could scrape your way back, and minimise losses to the other clubs.

Club's losing home fixture would have to be compensated.

Again with this suspension crap.

What would be the point in suspending a club for a period of a season?

It would make more sense to just dock points at start of the campaign.

TTG

Docking points is not an option available to the SFA.

06 Jun 2012 21:20:41
Cant wait for you eating humble pie bill 72....way its going be no new company playing football this on oming season,as even you must be by the denial stage and know liquidation looming and a cert....stevo

Your probably right Stevo - things ain't looking good - but rather than run RFC down at every turn, and constantly predicting the next great extinction, (a moving date for liquidation since February!) - some ACTUAL facts might help your posts.
I am not blind to the facts as we know them and I am also acutely aware that the story is going to rumble on for a wee while yet - maybe into next season? But that doesn't stop me being a fan, supporter, season ticket holder (NOT to rename Auchenhowie btw!), shareholder and purveyor of numerous strips and pies!

We must hold onto the possibility that whatever happens RFC will survive - even in DIV3!

bil72

The great extinction as you put it would have already happend bill,if it wasnt for whyte,as he used the non payement of tax,ni& vat to get rfc till end season!you seem an educated & level headed man.& must realise that no way will this shoddy CVA be accepted& rfc will no longer exist& a new entity will emerge as some newco called whatever that may be,the fans are being conned once again,yet will try to hang onto any glimmer of hope..stevo

Can Anyone makr sense of this
RESOLUTION (3)
17. I . 2 I .That the Joint Administrators, when it is anticipated that no better realisations will be made
in the Administration than would be available in a winding up, take the necessary steps to
put the Company into either CVL or other campulsory liquidat~ona s deemed approprrate by
the Joint Administrators. In accordance with paragraph 83(7) of Schedule £31 to the Act
and Rule 2.47 of the Rules, HMRC nominate Malcolm Cohen and James Bernard Stephen
of BDO as joint liquidators of the Company and pursuant to Sect~on2 31 of the Act any ast
required or authorised under any enactment to done by the joint liquidators may be done by
all or any one or more persons holding office as joint liquidators
RESOLUTION (4)
17.1.12 That, without prejudice to or effect upon creditors’ rights to bring any challenge to the level
of that remuneration shall they consider it appropriate to do so, the Joint Administrators’
remuneration be fixed by reference to the time properly incurred by them and their staff in
attending matters during the Administration.
17. I. 23 That the Joint Administrators’ statement of pre-Administration costs under Rule 2.25 of the
Rules, where no Creditors’ Committee is established, be approved for payment in
accordance with Rule 2.396: of the Rules.
7 7.1.14 That the Joint Administrators be authorised to draw their reasonably and properly incurred
Category 2 Disbursements

Stevo, if whyte had put us into administration at the start of the year I'm not so sure we would be in such a mess, in fact I think we might have put that behind us by now, whyte was always gambling on champions league money which never came added with the new contracts handed out it snowballed, but look on the bright side it has saved you buying Viagra for the last 5 months , so every cloud :)

06 Jun 2012 16:01:17
Hi guys seen as this is a rumours page /transfer page lets keep it this way. Im well we have a transfer ban but lets see who realisticly we could get?

I would be happy for these cheap/free singings

Rino Gattuso
Ian Black (bad reputation but good player tbbh)
Garry Oconnor

A few loans maybe?

I would get shot of Lafferty but dont know if our squad is strong enough without him?

Who do yous think is realistic?


Stego

Don't fancy oconner, would rather have lovenkrands who has been released.

IF and its a huge if we avoid a transfer ban I don't think we can buy anyone unless its cash up front. Don't blame them if they demand this, bosnans may be the only way forward. But let's see what the appeal brings.

O'conner I wouldn't touch mate, the guy is a clown! I would take Rino back and id give Black a shot too. Id happily drive Lafferty to where ever he wanted to go!
Dmrangers

Why are you all so keen to get rid of Lafferty all of a sudden?

i hope for the good of Scottish football that it has nothing to do with where he got married, it's pathetic.

Black is a no no gents imo. He'll spend more of his time serving suspensions.

#4 I couldn't even tell you where he got married mate, I just dont like the guys attitude. He should just concentrate on his football and stay out of the papers
Dmrangers

Even if you have no transfer ban next season what team is going to "sell" you a player knowing full well your team do not pay up transfer fees, also no agent is going to recommend his player also knowing they might not get full wages..
Timalloy

Nothing at all to do with him getting married (so stop stirring up stuff that doesn't exist) Lafferty has had a bit of an attitude recently nothing more nothing less.

Gers could afford me. Probably best on the bench for first 86 mins being in the twilight of my career at 56. Would make a good target man as i'm hard to miss. Wages would be no problem, 2 grand a week and a crate of electric white. Only drawback would be own goals against celtic but ye'll be 5-0 down by 86 min so none of you will be there to see it.

06 Jun 2012 13:17:33
Is the RFFF publishing accounts? Incidentally u need a license and charity status to use collection buckets in Scotland.
Is the RFFF a registered charity?
Was a license approved by Glasgow city council for all the collection buckets on each specific day?

What's wrong? Are you lot running out of rumours to make up regarding Rangers yous have to turn to the RFFF and conjure up some lame rumour about them not having a licence.

You lot are pathetic. What next, David Murray has links with the Columbian drug cartel?

Comical!!

TTG

If not...they must be a business and declaring this as income ....tax?

It's highly illegal to collect money in the UK unless you're a registered charity with Companies House Edinburgh.
You then come under all the charity regulations, the charity commission and have to publish certified accounts.
Some charities only turn £5k per year, rangers have pulled in over £500k.
The RFFF are not undertaking the activities of a charity and would not get charity status. Paying for QCs or turf doesn't qualify.

1)
Your right TTG, smells a bit of desperation, running out of ideas maybe?

bil72

Well what ive heard from my mate who is a season ticket holder at ibrox is he contacted RFFF & said he would be happy to give a weeks wage to them but was told to wait the now we will contact you about getting it from you but we need it but dont want it just now (or something along those lines end of the day they didnt want his money at that point ?)

lenny

Collecting money is strictly licensed between specific hours on specific days for a specific number of tins/ buckets at specified locations.

This is how authorities stop numerous charities operating on same days at same times and locations.

Its just one of those hiatus moments you get when yer having a good laugh. The comedy will be back to scratch soon, youll see.

06 Jun 2012 12:15:14
Heard a few rumours that green has been begging the blue knights to help out by putting up cash! Another one is that white was due in court today but never turned up!

If Whyte doesn't pay his SFA fine by next week, SFA will take it out on Rangers.
Rangers also have a week to pay the £160k fine.

Not a rumour m8,its FACT!just posted about green..stevo

A good friend was invited to join the Green consortium minimum investment £100,000

CW doesn't do showing up. (Means he doesn't have to do walking away afterwards har har snort).

OP- whyte was due in court for a speeding fine and didn't turn up.

Yeah it was a speeding fine. 90mph on the A9 going to his pal's pile of stones on Speyside. He can't do anything right.

Was there not a song called whyte lightning doug t.s.o

06 Jun 2012 11:21:02
The CVA seems a bit of a smokescreen to me. The ausited accounted are due to be presented to the SPL on 15th June. Yet according to D&P's CVA proposal the directors have not signed off on a Statement of Affairs (similar to a Balance Sheet). Why would the current directors sign off audited accounts if they are no longer going to be involved? If I was Whyte I wouldn't as there will be a lot of disclosure notes which he would have to agree to. I can't see new directors being appointed in time and in any event they would need a lot of time to go through the accounts as they would be taking on a lot of responsiblity in signing off accounts for last year.

Rangers will need to ask the SPL to extend the deadline again if a CVA is successful. Suspect that this will kill any CVA as I can't see accounts being produced and signed off. That leaves a Newco or liquidation. If a Newco is agreed without a CVA then Rangers could still be in the SPL but with heavy penalties, if what happened to English clubs is anything to go by.

Interesting if Green can persuade the RFFF today if he has any money to invest in Rangers after the CVA/Newco.

Pessimistic about all this

A new company means liquidation of the club to date and no history.
No accounts means a second year out of Europe.

Newco is OK as it buys the club complete with history and free of debts. It's only when the club has to start up afresh or via a reverse takeover that the history disappears (as per Airdrie, which is really Clydebank).

If u buy a season ticket green let u vote for a new name of murray park,,,,,stevo

06 Jun 2012 10:51:25
Some of the Creditors saying this morning that they have heard nothing from the Administrators re the CVA - more time wasting ?

All documents should have been signed for on receipt, would be interesting to see D&P statement regarding this.

I take it that dumb and dumber with their 5.5 million bill , will not accept 9p in the pound. big eck

Strong rumours this morning is that Green is asking for investment from "blue knights".So far no one has bitten.

I had to email Duff & Phelps reguarding club deck seats, got a auto response email back in return saying someone well be in touch, that was three weeks ago, won't even response to phone calls now.

Das Shadow

06 Jun 2012 09:45:08
If FIFA and uefa ban rangers from their competitions does that mean we can still play glamour friendlys or not?

Glamour friendlies? Are you for real? We won't have any players!

Can you imagine any agent letting his player stay with a club that can only play friendlies? Friendlies (even if we can play them) won't pay the weekly bills.

Why does it matter? We won't have a team, what player in his right mind stays at a club that only plays friendly games? Some people talk utter crap on here

Banning rangers in Scottish cup or league cup just makes them stronger fresher in SPL against clubs in all three tournaments inc SPL.

1@2 what a pair of smart arses. The point I was trying to make was simple, but I dumb it down a bit for you two. The sfa won't expel us, but FIFA and uefa will ban us fro Europe so can we play glamour friendlys instead as we have in the past when we have been knocked out of Europe early. Hope this is simple enough for you to understand. Also agents would let their players play anywhere as long as it makes them money.