Rangers Banter Archive November 05 2012

 

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05 Nov 2012 19:41:40
I've no respect whatsoever for the SFA , therefore I don't give a jot who is chosen to replace Craig Levein as Scotland manager. The SFA might try for Walter, this of course would bring many Gers fans back onside, but I'm hoping Walter accepts the position offered by Charles Green. Geo the Ger

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So because you don't like the SFA you won't support Scotland (if you're Scottish, that is)?

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Well Walter certainly hasn't rushed into a decision on taking up CG's offer - so he either must still have big doubts about Green OR he maybe fancies another shot at international management.

Certainly I don't think Scotland could hope to find a better manager.

BARNEY BEAR

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As a Scotland fan, I can accept Walter is a good manager but can Never Every accept back a man who walked away from his Country mid qualifying campaign. How would a Rangers fan feel if Walter had left them mid season. Never can accept a man who does walking away.

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@2 Walter would be another disaster as a Scotland manager.Remember what a shambles he left Everton in.

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No longer will the sfa be able to rely on our fans pushing up the attendance during a Scotland international at hampden on a cold night with nothing at stake. Those days are long gone.

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You don't care but you take the time to bring up the topic? And of corse it has to be a rangers manager eh so you will never criticize the national team again if that was the case. Walter really the guy which gl copied the 6-4-0 formation, Walter is not good if he cannot buy players or have players they can't afford, so going by that don't think he will be able to cope unless cheats at a higher level now.

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After the way Rangers have been treated by the SFA this season it will always be Rangers first and Scotland last for me.

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Don't give a monkeys who's Scotland next manager is as long it isn't our walter - if he decides to return to football then it must be Ibrox. Stuff the SFA.

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@4 and partially 6. Deary me. How long ago was Everton? He did pretty well with Scotland and Rangers after that, surely you can at least admit that? Uefa Cup Final, three league titles and beating the French (who did he buy, pay an EBT to, etc, etc, to manage that one number 6?) just a few of a long list of highlights I can think of off the top of my head.

Managers fare differently at different clubs. Take Strachan, the man I would like to see take the job. Did well at Coventry and later had an absolute shocker at Middlesbrough where he took till December to record his first win and then left them rock bottom of the league three months into the following season. Is he a poor manager because of that? His Celtic record (last 16 of Champions League and three titles) would suggest otherwise to me, but hey, what do I know, I am only being objective. If Strachan is offered it I would be a happy man as I think he would be the right appointment to make at this point but if Walter gets it instead I will be equally as happy. He has already proven he can do the job with Scotland and guaranteed he would get more out of the players we currently have than Levein managed. Take the blinkers off and be honest.

Brian

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It has to be someone who can get a grip nos of this particular set of circumstances. I think Strachan is perfect.

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I completely agree with 3) I wouldn't want Smith back. International management is becoming the domain of veteran coaches so I do have a degree of sympathy with McLeish who made it known from day one that he missed the day to day involvement but Smith left Scotland in a hole and I would never want him back for that reason alone.

As for the SFA hating Rangers brigade when Jim Farry was found guilty of delaying Jorge Cadete's registration it didn't even enter my head that I should stop supporting Scotland. A clown with an agenda, and it was an agenda, he delayed the registration for a forthcoming old firm cup semi, did not find me suddenly not Scottish.

With Scottish Cup stripping still a viable option on the table it remains to be seen as to who wronged who regards Rangers and the SFA.

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06 Nov 2012 10:00:30
Must say I'm disgusted at people from Scotland actually hoping that their national team fails. You should be ashamed of yourself. It's petty and pathetic. I have a go at some celtic fanswho support Ireland over their own country and I'm guessing most of you do too, this is even worse. Give yourself a shake

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Walter is the only man to save scotland but as long as reagan and his cronies are there i wont be back

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Agree with 13.) Only one manager can bring respect back to Scotland - WALTER!

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To all the posts saying we are bad for not supporting Scotland. Why exactly because we don't hold the same opinion as you there are lots of reasons for rangers fans never to support Scotland/SFA again until dramatic change has happened. But at the same time there are plenty reasons why every scot could choose not to support the national team and couldn't be blamed. The whole national setup is a disgrace and the people running it are only interested in self gain and there own egos its never any bodies fault and the easiest one to blame is the manager. Scotland will not qualify for brazil meaning France 2016 is our next chance to qualify for a major tournament and eighteen years since we last qualified for one if we fail to qualify for that one its two decades since we would have last qualified. Sorry you can't always blame the easiest target the whole SFA needs changed and fast

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It could get rangers fans back on scotlands side a little if walter was manager,id be happy with strachan aswell tho

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"setup is a disgrace and the people running it are only interested in self gain and there own egos its never any bodies fault"

If that doesn't sum up Rangers of late I don't know what does. You genuinely made me laugh there, good job.

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I don't think the sfa are biased , one way or another. I just think they are incompetnent- simple as that. Why a nation of our size has 3 senior governing bodies is anybody's guess , farce and jobs for the boys. How much money do these self appointed officals get in salary, perks and junkets. No wonder our youth are crap- when was the last time the sfa, spl, sfl or sjfa went to a school and did some grass roots promotion/ sponsoring etc?

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06 Nov 2012 15:43:20
if Smith got the job what an ideal way for Super Ally to walk away from Rangers and be his assistant once more in the national side..thus ally saving face...johnnyG

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@17 your response to my post sums up exactly the point I was making instead of reading it as a Scotland supporter. You decided to use the fact I'm a rangers fan to try and get one over if we were talking about rangers I'd agree with you but since we are not I can only conclude you are a I'd,ot or ten years old. This kind of pettiness is exactly what's wrong with this country more interested in getting one up instead of caring about the bigger picture. If this attitude continues I don't think Scotland will qualify for another tournament in my lifetime even if I life for another hundred years we are rubbish and the fact we haven't managed to beat a nation ranked above 75th in over 3 and a half years proves this

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Scotland or ANYONE else does not matter a jot to me this is a Rangers board and Rangers future is all that i care about..i,ll feel let down if anyone that has been at Rangers goes anywhere near the Scotland job

Rangers ,then , now ,forever....les

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@ 20) You said in post 15 there are lots of reasons for Rangers fans never to support Scotland. Therefore you certainly don't care about the bigger picture, in fact your support, of lack thereof, is miniscule as it is entirely based on how the association of one team who plays in blue is perceived to have treated another team that plays in blue. That is not a SFA concern that is a Rangers concern on your part so please don't give me this bigger picture nonsense, as I said before I never even considered ditching Scotland because of Jim Farry regards Cadete, never entered my mind. The same cannot be said of you lot.

A pathetic SFA be it agenda driven or just inept is not a new thing in Scotland,did you come out against them regards Farry? Have you not supported them on the TWO ocassions when they have declined World Cup invites, yes, declined! They are a shambles, always were a shambles and most likely always will be a shambles but right now, given their deafening silence earlier, I feel most Rangers fans complaints are just that.

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Hope SFA pick strachan, who is the bookies fav. cos i don't want Walter to get the job. My reason, simply i can't stand the SFA. WATP

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I really wish the narrow-minded on here could differentiate between the SFA and the Scottish team. Yes, the former will appoint the manager and is, ostensibly, in charge of the latter but that's no reason not to lend your support to the players representing the nation.

Just like we're always told it's not the Rangers fans fault what happened to the club and creditors so they shouldn't be punished; it's not the fault of the national team and manager whatever the SFA has/hasn't done, therefore why punish them by withdrawing support?

1903

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At 24. I'm a True Blue - stuff SFA - stuff Scotland - stuff SPL - SATISFIED!

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I have to agree with everyone on this site
regarding the sfa.Chairmen of highland and junior football making decisions at the highest level of scottish football.Anyone who asked why they are incompetent ,the above may have you
thinking again.jimbo

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I dont think their too many people with much respect for your club and how can you call the sfa incompetent for not sacking a duff manager when you still wont sack yours

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The SFA have lost support from vast numbers of Gers fans, which will almost certainly be detrimental to the national team in the years ahead. Traditionally the Rangers end at Hampden was nearly always full, alas those days are gone.

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07 Nov 2012 00:11:47
@25 you're a plum. Utterly disgusting. If that's what a 'true blue' is all about, then the rest of Scottish football fans have been right all along about rangers fans.

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@22 deary me some folk will never get a grip of themselves and you are certainly one of them. Yes I said there are reasons why rangers fans might never support Scotland again but it was a small part of my over all comment. Where I stated that all Scotland fans could have genuine reasons for no longer following Scotland. But whatever makes you happy with your silly wee snide comments. I bet your one of they ones who say rangers no longer exists and have no history but your always on here acting like a t,t with silly immature comments. So clearly your history of hating rangers continues so the overall history of rangers continues. PS I stopped supporting/following Scotland 3 years ago nothing to do with what happened to rangers just purely because CL was a Sh,t manager and it was to embarrassing to watch

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05 Nov 2012 17:40:29
cant believe charlie adam says the media won the battle to get ridda levein.....get yir teeth fixed charlie then make comments ....saw him on tv yesterday at the l'pool game .... a rowa condemned lavvies...all that money tae...deecee {The Ed039's Note - I like Charlie, but anybody else think if you were to paint him yellow he would look like Spongebob Squarepants?)

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06 Nov 2012 17:35:57
If he had got his finger out and closed Bale down his pal might still be in a job

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05 Nov 2012 16:57:18
by by craig...you wont be missed...now who is the next lad to try his luck ...
short list....
strachan
souness
redknap
sir walter
mcleish
coyle
anyone ive missed......we can still qualify wi the right man at the helm...it would mean winnin every single game...long shot ...but possible ....but impossible if levein had stayed...he shoulda quit the numpty...deecee {The Ed039's Note - I think you will find Mark Wotte and or Billy Stark pick the squad tomorrow, then Strachan is a cert if you ask me)

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Think you are correct Ed, Strachan a cert, but i can only hope he stops all the smart ass, smug, superior, unfunny manner at interviews. {The Ed039's Note -I will get pelters for saying this with him being ex Celts boss, but I actually quite like his humour and his attitude, always did even before he became Celtic boss)

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Thinkin your bang on ed....the wee man punches all the #s...deecee

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Dead on Ed, could't like him as Tic boss BUT he is brilliant at taking the piss out idiot journalists and always funny as ****, take into account he did what O'Neill couldn't do take tic to 2nd level Champ League PLUS first since Stein to do 3 in a row I am sure too? He will get the best out of what he has to work with and thats all you can ask for.... NO WAY WIL HE PLAY 4-6-0 home or away.... goodluck to him or Walter whomever gets the thankless task..... george {The Ed039's Note - He is a good manager, he gave himself a thankless task of going to Middlesborough after Celtic, a club seriously on the decline, I would be more than happy to see him Scotland boss, like you said, would get the best out of what he has, and that has got to be a major attribute of any potential Scotland boss)

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Haha ed, you talking about a club in decline after the liquidation of your own!! {The Ed039's Note - I was actually talking about the job your former manager taken. And we cant decline any further, remember "sporting integrity" put paid to that)

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Why would Strachan even apply as he's been rejected twice previously.

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Don't know if anyone on here is aware that Strachan said (before he managed Celtic) his dream job would be to manage Rangers.

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"Sporting integrity" didn't liquidate your club. It was self destruction! {The Ed039's Note - why don't you try reading posts, I am stating that we can't decline any further, and that was in the name of "sporting integrity" was it not? I am not saying it wasn't warranted, I am just saying that people should just fess up to what it really is)

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Yeh he was talking about his nightmares they are dreams too

rangobango

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You've missed out Malky. No cardiff City fan would swap him for any of the failures/has beens on the original poster's list.

Redbird

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05 Nov 2012 15:21:20
Are Elgin City one of the clubs who are welcome at Ibrox ? Just so we neutrals know when the attendance comparison starts . (banter).

Paddy Malarkey

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Don't think you are a neutral I will be happy to see Elgin get a decent gate at ibrox rather than any spl team

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@1: think he supports Thistle if I remember correctly...

1903

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Partick, not Caley.

1903

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05 Nov 2012 12:57:14
What I don't understand is why when CW took over didn't he just sell every player we had.? Could have raised close to or more than £20m. Would have paid off bills and tax etc. Then could have brought in lower quality players but still be in the SPL? Just don't get why we were allowed to get to a point where players that were worth millions got to leave for nothing? Doesn't make financial sense

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But while this is entirely sensible, this would leave Whyte with a club worth nothing ?

Sell your stock (players), no players left, so no value ?

Why do this... as he could only then sell rangers on for its true value, -tax case, and its probably just worth few pounds.

Why would any business man be interested in business with net worth of £1 ?

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Why didn't Murray do it therefore, he created the problem? The reason (amongst others) is that the fans would not have tolerated it. Mid table or worse, screw that when there's a tin pot to be won and debt to accrue.

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It was being knocked out of Europe that threw him - the clock started ticking towards Admin from that point on.

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These are the questions you should have asked at the time Too late now but hopefully you have learned and will keep a close eye on new owners this time round

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Because the only way that Whyte could make money was admin. he thought that would be October but when BTC was delayed, the next quickest way was to not pay Paye & NI. He never had one ounce in interest other than his pocket.

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Whytes acute sense of business evolves around liquidation, not making a success of a company. He shouldn't have been sold the club in the first place.

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05 Nov 2012 03:24:01
just noticed that celtic have been fotunate enough to have or will have 5 SPL home games in a row directly after a CL game, only after the last game will they have an away SPL game
Luck of the draw eh?

JG

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Wasn't that lucky against Killie was it....

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Aye. but its not all cup games like some. .H.

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05 Nov 2012 15:29:18
Checked out of curiosity and can only find three - list?

Paddy Malarkey

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Yup....just like rangers home ties in cup competitions of late.
Luck of the draw eh?

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Why is a Ranger's fan ( if indeed you are ) interested in Celtic ?

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@3 - check again
22nd sep
7th oct
27th oct
11th nov
24th nov

JG

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@OP: considering the SPL fixture list was made in June and Celtic didn't know who and when they would be playing in the CL until the end of August, yes, it was just the luck of the draw.

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05 Nov 2012 19:29:59
See what you mean , JG . Misread the post . Maybe that's what happens whrn there is only one tram left in Europe . If you look further , Team 12 (or Dundee) away on the corresponding dates , suggesting that SPL was nrver on for what was left of Rangers.

Paddy Malarkey

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Last home game p****d against Killie ! last away game let a 2-0 lead slip away ! mabee a neutral venue would be better.... OOOPS Hampden closed, don't worry wee Lenny's troops will DROP points !

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Rangers have been away to brechin and forres this season in cups. Is that too hard to understand for some people?

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Number 10 we also played falkirk away.

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Op whats your point ?? did you also notice that celtic had five consecutive away games before those champion league games. once again whats your point because i genuinely cant see it . shamrock

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@7 - the dates for CL games are known well in advance all the way from qualifiers through to the final, UEFA inform the football associations of these dates to ensure that league fixtures do not take place on the same night as CL games

JG

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@13: so you believe that the SPL fixed it in case Celtic made it through? Are you sure there haven't been occasions when league fixtures haven't been on the same nights as CL matches, especially after Christmas?

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