Rangers Banter Archive May 05 2014

 

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05 May 2014 23:29:00
We continually here our number one priority is a chief scout to help in the youth development WHY, we don't play young players, we just buy auld guys looking to see out there careers with an above average salary, our management team have lost the plot.

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Ur dead right bongo murray park youth side is a waste of money macoist won't give the boys a chance and if he thinks they are not good enough they should be let go how he will give any a chance next season when the team will be under pressure I don't know his idea of giving them a chance is sitting on the bench til they get skelfs on there arse

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Ally is obviously buying his way to the top league known that blue pitch holdings and magarita will give him 50 million once we get their the same as mr wallace has got investers lined up to help him just now and if you believe that then it was father xmas that posted this merry xmas

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05 May 2014 14:59:13
Kenny Millers contract terminated looks like he could be coming back. That's not the worst news Hearing that highly rated Charlie Telfer has rejected a contract to sign for Dundee Utd. Honestly if were losing young lads to bring in players like Miller, Boyd, Gordon I'm finished done for good! Miller Daly & Boyd they can't all play so we have past it 30+ strikers on the bench picking up fat pay cheques while youngsters like Clark Galagcher & McKay waste a way. This is an absolute joke how can the board let things like this happen honestly & how can McCoist see this as the way forward!

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@op with mccoist there I can see a lot of the decent young guys leaving thers no chance their going to get a game they probably won't even get much game time in the pre season either

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Absolutely agree Larky- young Telfer signing for United in the top division because he will have more chance of progress should surely get through to the last of the Super Ally stalwarts?
One who is either Ally himself or his agent recently posted that there were insufficient posters on here to constitute an accurate cross section of opinion. WRONG! Go to the oldest poll on Ally and it has over 1,000 votes 29% think Ally should remain manager 71% think his time is up.
If you know anything about polling or statistical sampling then you will know a survey of 1,000 has an accuracy of plus or minus 3% of the total population.
The majority of Bears now want McCoist out. The board have wasted more money but we are a football club and we pay to watch football not board machinations.
We need a new board who put the club first before their own pockets but we need a new manager who does the same.
We potentially have 1 year left before we are involved in the playoffs to get into the top league.
That is 1 year left to give the youth a chance to get experience and a bit of battle hardness for the top division.
Ally won't do that he has wasted 2 years already. We are drinking in the last chance saloon. With Ally in charge the bar is already shut.

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The manager is an absolute disgrace. If Telfer goes to Utd, then the board need to ask questions of this clown of a manager. Hemmings out last season and is the voted player of the year. Nicky Clark in scores about 40 goals last season in same division and then struggles to break double figures this season under McCoist. Mccoist answer for next season Millar and Boyd. No wonder Telfer is thinking about going. Please get rid ofMcCoist before he does any more damage.

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@2 can't find the poll with over 1000 votes in it but the last one only has 118 in it and are you saying the poll is only open to Gers fans?
When I posted about this site not being a definitive sample of opinion I was replying to a post stating that he wished Wallace read the posts on this site and sacked Ally. Are you seriously saying that the CEO of Rangers should make his decisions based on the opinions of this site?How good a player is Telfer by the way

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@ 4 - Rangers voting polls- 6th line on lhs second last poll "Is Ally McCoist the right man for the job?" Yes 290 No 720 1010 votes cast.

Telfer is ahead of young Gallacher IMO but young Gallacher made an improvement to Rangers attack on a number of occasions particularly as a sub e.g away to Arbroath.

Never mind throwing a spurious question about Wallace you stated there was an insufficient sized sample which is quite simply wrong.

Lets just agree to differ "fans" like you with some scary sense of loyalty to the worst manager this club has ever had who has lied to the fans- about his contract/salary, playing youths once the league has been won and "who are these people" when he knew exactly who the SFA panel were threaten, the survival of my club by supporting an expensive incompetent. If he had a smidgen of integrity and decency he would leave.

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05 May 2014 14:25:34
If it was a joke, I'd be laughing. We cannot afford to have a manager who has no finger on the finance button, who doesn't understand what's affordable and not. It's beyond the pale now.

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05 May 2014 16:55:01
Wonder what 'Super' Ally thought if watched the Hearts Killie game yesterday?

Did he think that Gary Locke's youngsters showed how young players can excel when given a chance game after game?

Or did he think - we'll need some very experienced players aged 30+ on wages we can't possibly afford if we've got any chance of beating that lot?

Sadly we all know the answer.

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Our young lads were bit over awed at start of season. After first half of season they started to believe in themselves. some more than others obviously. If super sally had went with youth team 2yr ago you would be reaping benefits now. Problem is McCoist doesn't trust himself. so needs experienced players that don't need coaching. (Blackie excluded)

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05 May 2014 21:45:30
Would be totally gutted if young Telfer were to go anywhere he's an outstanding prospect but could anybody blame him Utd playing in a far superior league giving youth a chance, do we really need auchenhowie when we could just sit back and let other clubs nurture there youngsters, then sell them on for a bucket load of money and then we can pick them up on a free twenty years down the line and all we have to do is pay them an over inflated wage. W A T. P Bluebear

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Talk of telfer leaving and could we blame him I would rather have spent longer coming through the leagues with youngsters look at the young hearts team or the youngsters from dunfermline last game I used to say let mccoist get us to top league then he could move upstairs now I don't think ally will win championship I hope ime wrong

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05 May 2014 13:01:17
have heard from a couple of people and confirmed in paper yesterday mccoist is looking to sign craig Gordon. waste of money to me as cammy bell is a good keeper.

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05 May 2014 10:58:31
im telling use get me in at ibrox because all the dead weight would be gone looking in its easy to see who isn't needed, playing wise. if I was there simonsen cribari hutton law black shiels and daly would be gone and that's just of the top of my head. I thought when we went down it would've been a great chance to sign players who would never get a look in before and sell them on for profit. but apparently not we missed out on young roberstson big time. who have we actually signed from a 'lesser team' nicky clark that's all there's boys like mcniff from annan wallacefrom Morton/queens park we are missing here but instead we want to sign boyds millers steve smiths ricky fosters get a grip!

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We are a club that does not have a clue from top to bottom, the fact that we are even being linked with Boyd and Miller says it all on the football side. A chance to gather a group of good youngsters that could be coached and matured through the lower leagues gone replaced with a backward looking policy of signing has been pros on silly money. What is the plan when we reach the SPL with a group of ageing footballers, is it just to go out and spend millions we do not have . Total shambles of a once proud football club.

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@1, "Total shambles of a once proud football club. "

Couldn't have put it better myself.

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Yep- "total shambles of a once proud club"- just sums it up to a tee.
No management off the park no management on the park.
It may have been through necessity but Hearts have shown what a group of youngsters with one or two old heads can do. It should have been necessity for us as well but we had the wrong man at the wrong time in the wrong place- Ally just go for god's sake.

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Rangers have about double the number of professional players on their books than most SPL. Rangers have 55 and Celtic have less than 50. Rangers shouldn't be balancing themselves against Celtic but should have more modest targets at this time

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05 May 2014 10:30:27
Craig Gordon, Kenny Miller, Kris Boyd all being touted as possible signings for next season, so much for youth getting a chance! how much would they be on? how many people will be made redundant to fund them? why does he need another old crock GK? what makes him think Boyd will be able to get on the long ball now? how the hell is this moving forward? Hopefully this is just McCoists usual hype to part his disciples from their ST money like all the "dedicated to Sandy Jardine" drivel that oused out of him, if McCoist cared about Rangers even 1% of what he claims he would have walked years ago, he gets booed at Ibrox ffs, every journalist, punter and 90% of supporters say his tactics are blue yet it continues, we are all calling for youth he wants Boyd and co, we want clarity and honesty he gives us BS, I have no idea how to get him out before he does even more damage but we have got find a way, Rangers could possibly go into admin or worse and this person wants to carry on doing exactly what put us here, because it's also exactly what put him where he is!

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Great post Smokey Bear. Whilst we are all worried about the club Ally is only worried about Ally McCoist. Undefeated in the third tier of Scotland against part timers on a fraction of the Ibrox wages-pathetic and cretinous. An achievement to be proud of? Only in Ally's sad selfish world.

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05 May 2014 12:32:42
Firstly I like Kenny Miller. I like Kris Boyd. I like Craig Gordon too and wish him well in his recovery from injury although you would have to fear the worst there.

Anyway, can somebody please explain why Ally thinks it's a good idea to bring any of these guys to Ibrox when just last week he was going on about being staggered about the amount of money Rangers were LOSING?

Players like Jig and Daly are about to get wage rises I believe of a couple of thousand per week as they move up another division, from what I hear there's only been around 3-4,000 season tickets sold so far and tomorrow being the person he is, Imran Ahmad is back in court trying to ringfence £500,000 from the club.

Ok a few player's contracts are up and there's going to be some non playing staff redundancies but how can Ally possibly think we're going to able to afford more veteran players with no chance of recuperating the money in transfers. More financial madness is the last thing we need surely.

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I think management has listened and now want a Sports Director in place and Ally ain't happy. From my point of view I'm disappointed he's failed to give us the class of 92 Ferguson gave to Man Utd. It was right there, right time, right risk in the lower leagues.

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05 May 2014 12:40:57
@Smokeybear yes I read about Miller (apparently taking a "pay cut" to join you) at 34 he is no spring chicken.
Boyd, in all honesty could be good signing if he scores you goals, although I would imagine he will be a top earner, unlike Miller. So will eat up a large part of Ally's budget.
Gordon, again in my opinion could be a good signing if back to best and fit enough, (he is certainly a better option than Simonsen) and I would imagine he would be on a low "ish" wage to start with until he proved himself.
But as you can see Ally and his "scouting network" (himself) are just going with the old guard instead of investing in up and coming players who would improve you more in the longer term.

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Aye but the 3or 4000 tickets sold will pay wages this month and further sales the following month what they sell will keep it going till they forced into share issue

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Hearts have shown how its done in under a season get the boys in and give them a chance we have wasted a great opportunity of making the best of a bad situation by sticking with Ally,
We shoud be heading into the championship with a hungry young squad and plenty money in the bank but still we talk of Boyd & Miller (I despair)
Stevenson & King from Hearts for a fraction of the cost and weaken them, seems a better plan to me.
I blame Ally not the board for onfield squad & selection.

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Ally mccoist knows the old buddies don't need coaching and its a good job they don't cause he couldn't give it easy options

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05 May 2014 10:15:20
And were are we getting the million pounds from, sorry were stuck with him as for Leven his 1-5-5 formation enough said!

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They could get rid of him what u don't realise is that his wages are in the buget they could sack him and jist keep paying his wages till his year is paid up he does not need to get his money up front if he was sacked and paid that way there would be nothing macoist could do about it but any time during that year a deal could be struck that suited both parties if not jist keep paying til his notice is up

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As you say lbj d it is not as easy to get rid of McCoist or players on contracts unless they are expired. We just couldn't afford it as we have to pay for the duration until expiry dates unless they are able to find another club on the same or better money. Loaning them out is an option, even at a percentage of their wage. Not ideal, but a way to saving some cash on unwanted players.

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Am I right in thinking that McCoist is on a 1 year rolling contract?

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In this case an unwanted manager but players could be got rid of same way

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Yes iyear rolloing unfortunetly its still rolling

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@ 5 Aye rolling for him- for the rest of us it is rolling full pelt down the hill

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05 May 2014 09:48:19
Kenny miller to leave Vancouver and join rangers in 2 year deal was so deprecate to join rangers he's picking up less wages than faure parelta and other players

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