Rangers Banter Archive February 05 2017
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05 Feb 2017 21:01:59
The most practical proposal, for manager to the end of the season is Kenny Miller.
Warburton is useless, but I sympathise with him due to the lack of backing from DK.
As other posters have stated respect for our manager has been lost, both in the dressing room and with us. I am sure Kenny will see the flaws in our system and act accordingly.
I could go on about where I see the flaws but the man in charge is what matters, and I think our best bet to close out this season is Kenny Miller.
05 Feb 2017 21:27:28
The manager had money in the summer, Rossiter, Dodoo, Windass, Crooks and Hodson all signed for a fee, nominal as it may have been, plus around £1.8m on Garner, coupled with the hefty wage outlay for Kranjcar and Barton. Celtic spent a similar amount with Dembele signed for a development fee, Toure as a free and circa £3m on Sinclair.
The improvement in them is massive whereas we find ourself with practically the same side that competed in the championship last season as Crooks is away out on loan, Barton is away, Rossiter is never fit, Kranjcar suffered a serious injury, Windass is inconsistent, Hodson isn't deemed a better fit at Rb than Tavernier and Garner couldn't lace Millers boots.
he's had the backing in the summer, the board were spot on to limit Warburton to loan signing in January as his recruitment history has been abysmal. Damage limitation this season, a massive shakeup required in the summer starting with a new management team.
06 Feb 2017 01:49:22
Kenny has a wealth of managerial experience, but its no the worst suggestion
some a the nonsense on here, de boer brothers? lucky to get the Chuckle brothers
we need someone with an eye for talent whos not afraid to make decisions.
05 Feb 2017 23:12:17
I agree billyb. The answer has been staring us in the face. Kenny is rangers thru and thru and you can see it in his disappointment when we play
05 Feb 2017 23:36:59
@billyb - so you'd put Miller who's inexperienced in as manager? And if things are still going wrong will he get slated on a game by game basis or does he get a free pass until the end of the season?
@j1985 - the reason Celtic could attract these players was CL football and just as important a decent weekly wage.
06 Feb 2017 08:58:20
J1985, Celtic spent £3mil on Sinclair, let's not forget his big old wage too. Toure big old wage, Dembele big old wage! we brought in 8 players and most likely still pay all 8 of them less than those 3 celtic players.
06 Feb 2017 09:17:59
On the pitch Miller acts more like the captain than Wallace. Now Wallace has many outstanding virtues both on and off the pitch that don't have to be listed by me but Kenny appears to be the only player on the park that is genuinely upset when games are going against us. Just an observation!
06 Feb 2017 11:51:54
Kenny miller was underrated when he wore the hoops. Been a solid player for youse.
06 Feb 2017 11:46:52
I heard some whispers last night that if warburton fails to beat morton then billy davies will be installed as rangers manager on a temporary basis, until the end of the season! Only passing on what some other bears were hearing! For me personally i think warburton will remain rangers manager at least until the end of the season!
06 Feb 2017 15:46:42
Union Jack - Wilton, Struth, Wallace, Greig, Souness all had what in common with Kenny Miller? That's right, they were all inexperienced as managers of a club our size, some had never managed at all. We have a history of identifying leadership and going for it, so Kenny Miller is indeed a great shout to take over the reins. Will he or won't he get slated has nothing to do with it, he could be the right choice and I would certainly back that choice.
06 Feb 2017 16:33:09
Agreed I can't hold kenny Miller any higher than I do, but he could never step up to management atm,
06 Feb 2017 19:57:36
Why not, Delboy?
05 Feb 2017 17:55:36
Dembele scored the same amount of goals in 20mins than Joe Garner has in 20 games. Waste of money in my eyes no matter how hard he works.
05 Feb 2017 19:04:25
I agree and he cost about 3times more than dembele what a joke.
05 Feb 2017 20:03:01
Cmon eh, only reason dembele was cheaper than garner is because of the cross border compensation rules. Yes I agree garner hasn't scored enough but he's not a one man team. Shite service = a shite goals return for a striker.
05 Feb 2017 20:40:46
Funny thing about dembele was that mw was meant have looked at him but choose dodo instead.
05 Feb 2017 21:55:34
Dembelle is on 30 grand a week we couldn't afford him.
05 Feb 2017 22:15:46
Garner needs to be playing in a 2 up front not by himself.
05 Feb 2017 22:59:01
Garner should have had at least one yesterday. He was hardly in the box either. He's dire
05 Feb 2017 23:19:20
If that's even true that's another reason davie1980 that our manager should just walk away
06 Feb 2017 11:46:32
Dembele cost Celtic 500k and if we had it would have been the same, but let's j9t make it out as if dembele was some unknown quantity snipped at a bargain price his wages are massive for the spl and only 6 months previous tottenham had bid 5 million.
06 Feb 2017 11:51:23
The thing is jaws my friend, we could have afforded dembele at 30k a week, if we hadn't have signed barton on 20k a week and say garner on 15k a week!
06 Feb 2017 12:20:32
Garner should be played up top with a strike partner, until that happens we won't see the best of joe garner, he's wasted alone upfront.
06 Feb 2017 21:00:28
Not good enough mate, tries hard but not good enough
05 Feb 2017 15:24:28
Prediction ror Morton match, we'll win 3-1
05 Feb 2017 15:56:59
Any win will do.
05 Feb 2017 16:04:12
If we go behind I can't see us on this form coming back and winning
05 Feb 2017 18:19:36
2 nil win for morton
05 Feb 2017 18:22:24
We have the players to win us the game but will Warburton play them and can he and Weir motivate them to play for the jersey!
05 Feb 2017 18:30:48
I find it hard to believe that rangers fans are doubting a win against morton. Surely things can't be that bad?
05 Feb 2017 18:39:37
Morton had a blip yesterday but have been scoring goals regularly and are absolutely deadly from set pieces. Forbes' deliveries will cause havoc. I think Morton will win 2-1 as we just don't score goals and can't see us keeping a clean sheet.
05 Feb 2017 18:40:57
we couldn't beat ross county in 3 attempts, hamilton at home etc think the fans feeling of uncertainty of a result over morton is justified, surely its his last game in the hot seat if we do get beat
05 Feb 2017 18:40:57
we couldn't beat ross county in 3 attempts, hamilton at home etc think the fans feeling of uncertainty of a result over morton is justified, surely its his last game in the hot seat if we do get beat
05 Feb 2017 19:07:39
Are we really debating if we can beat morton? c'mon boys bad week but get real
05 Feb 2017 19:45:59
3-0 Rangers but still think he has to go
05 Feb 2017 20:19:19
Does anyone think senderos will start against Morton
05 Feb 2017 22:00:56
Think game will be more straightforward, often works that way when there are doubts about beating a lower team in the cup.
05 Feb 2017 22:59:55
Who are we to rule out morton? Duffy has them well set up
05 Feb 2017 23:41:38
@gdawg - you've forgotten we've beat both The Sheep and Jambo's at home.
Easy win for Rangers against Morton.
06 Feb 2017 00:27:42
Morton will score, we will huff and puff, get a late goal probably from a penalty and win the replay, probably on penalties
06 Feb 2017 01:02:00
For a start, get Burt on the bench and if we're winning comfortably (! ) give him 20 minutes. Play Hodson, use Toral as holding midfielder and give Dodoo a game. If we can't try these things against Morton and still win with some ease, then we are in real trouble. Instead, though, I think we'll see Halliday and Kiernan back in and that will be it.
06 Feb 2017 03:34:22
Wee-Icky, I sincerely hope that you are wrong with regards to Halliday and Kiernan. If they both play then it really isn't beyond the realms of possibility that we could lose.
I would go with a 4-4-2
If Warburton and Weir can't motivate the team to go out there and win with goals to spare then they should hang their heads in shame. Maybe they should pick up the phone and ask Gough, Ferguson, Smith or Souness and ask for help!, (and Weir should pick up his jotters)!
06 Feb 2017 10:25:05
As long as he doesn't deploy hyndman as a defensive mid.
06 Feb 2017 11:48:10
I think the only way forward for Warburton is to switch the system whether it be a 352 442 or even a 4231 we need to play with 2 midfielders sitting and have a more balanced team. 2 striker would be my preference and dodoo should get a chance. He can't be as bad as what we have seen this year.
06 feb 2017 11:58:11
i fancy us to beat morton 3-1! put it this way fellow bears, we'll have to beat morton or warbs will lose his job, there and then i feel! this is coming from a bear who has always been behind and backed warburton! i honestly think there's life left in warburton's rangers career yet! that's my honest opinion. funny things can happen in football that swings it the other way, and you don't look back from it! football is most certainly, "a funny old game"!
06 Feb 2017 13:58:52
Eastmains16
Senderos has plenty of experience but if we play him alonguide Hill we lack pace.
Unsure if he will start but it's never easy to predict our starting 11.
06 Feb 2017 15:50:37
I agree wholeheartedly Tom and I'd still advocate Kenny Miller as player manager with any one of those sterling gentlemen and legends you mentioned operating by his side.
06 Feb 2017 17:52:44
I agree with you cee! I'd like warbs to try the 4-2-3-1 system! I've always liked that system!
05 Feb 2017 13:31:33
This is complete and utter gibberish from Warburton!
After going behind to an Alex Schalk goal, Gers responded positively as half-time approached and then battered hard on the County door, but only once were they able to find a way through with captain Lee Wallace netting an equaliser with 20 minutes left to play.
Speaking to RangersTV. tv afterwards, he explained: "The fans were tremendous and they are at home watching their team with the history the club has, and we should be winning games at home, I fully understand that.
"I hope they saw the boys give everything in the second half - there was no let-up in terms of intensity, and they were creating and driving forward and getting into good areas.
"The crowd saw that, the support was excellent as always, and what we have to do is get the rewards by putting the ball in the back of the net and we have to do that more often. "
Warburton was also asked about the changes he made to his side going into the game, and he responded: "I thought Philippe and Clint were strong. There was one situation in the first half where both went for the same ball - but they haven't played together if at all, but I thought they dealt very comfortably with what was thrown at them.
"We got the full-backs especially in the second half which was much, much better, we got on the ball in midfield and Jon Toral affected the game getting on the half-turn and getting forward. The front-line were bright and I was pleased with the subs.
"We had Joe Dodoo on the bench who was desperate to get on, and we were creating so many chances I thought it was going to come. So I am pleased with that, it's about using the squad - that's fine - but we are never satisfied about drawing a game of football, home or away, but the fact of the matter is we created so many chances and on another day that should be good for us. ".
05 Feb 2017 14:41:55
What I don't understand is he says we had Joe dodoo on the bench desperate to get on, why didn't he put him on then? Are we not allowed 3 attacking subs in a game
05 Feb 2017 16:03:44
I know it's total garbage he's spewing. At some point that lad is going to say; 'we are scoring nothing and I still can't get a run', what's the point'
How many games now can he think that by creating so many chances and not scoring its acceptable, normal!
No ability to make changes or spot where to make the changes.
He just does not understand what it means to be a Rangers manager or a Rangers fan. He hoped the fans could see that they boys were putting in everything to get a result, he says. this is Ross County for God sake!
05 Feb 2017 16:11:33
Yeah it seems to be obvious to most that Warburton doesn't have what it takes with a few exceptions like Supercoopereleven. His devotion and backing of Warburton is mystifying. His backing for Warburton is like a man who backs a horse to win the grand national sees it fall and then backs it again to win the same race
05 Feb 2017 18:24:34
Why was Garner playing and why was Windass not on the bench. With the number of chances we created a half decent striker would have bagged at least a couple and Windass strength for the last twenty minutes would have told.
05 Feb 2017 18:19:21
Warburton says we can't fault the commitment from the players, it's his tattics that are at fault,
05 Feb 2017 19:38:16
Agree with assessment of senderos land also thought dodoo should have been introduced at striker. disappointed in halliday as not once did he even come out dug out for a wee stretch or warm up. poor attitude
05 Feb 2017 19:05:19
Dodoo should have got a run, gk should be dropped as he is complete liability, taverner should be dropped from free kicks and corners as his efforts are crap infact he should be dropped
06 Feb 2017 15:52:42
Dodoo wasn't introduced as his substitutions are predetermined so any opportunity to do something inspiring or to alter things is lost. Windass didn't make the bench because Halliday neded a seat. The manager's a dud.
05 Feb 2017 12:29:15
I know many will probably disagree. But I am getting fed up seeing these comments from fans saying "we need to remember where we came from, where we have been the past 5 years" and yes it is true.
We have been down to the bottom league and back. But all through that time we still had the second highest wage bill in Scotland. We won the leagues and came back to the top league at a satisfactory level. For the players and managers we had we should have been a lot better.
Now all we hear is fans using this excuse when others say they are fed up with certain players or management, they need to be given time etc. They have had nearly 2 seasons to get things right. Last year I don't remember us wining a game after the league was won.
We brought in players again with a high expectations and they failed and the team fail week in week out. With the wages and money we have spent compared to our table rivals. We should be miles ahead.
But we're not, some players have been dropped and others given the chance and still no change so where does that leave us? An arrogant manager who doesn't want to change his tactics, definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over again and expect different results.
People are allowed different opinions, but I just can't see how anyone can see the current management taking this team any higher. For me it needs changed. Get someone in with some fresh ideas and let these ideas bed in for next season when we go again. Or risk falling further behind a rapidly improving celtic.
05 Feb 2017 12:42:47
I would totally agree with the post and at the start of the season there were many on here boasting about the squad and how we would give them a good run for their money. The manager also said "2nd is nowhere for Rangers" but he now seems to have forgotten this. His press conferences are now a constant embarrassment and he seems to detached from reality. In short the job is too big for him, he still doesn't get what being a manager of Rangers is and the sooner he goes the better. He will never win the league or take us forward
05 Feb 2017 12:49:03
You are spot on, warburton is big on doing analysis on other teams, nobody else needs to do that to us, everyone knows how we play and what we will do, even the subs are like for like, it's crazy he just can't change it up, what do you do if something isn't working, you bloody try something else, but not warburton. it's time for a change
05 Feb 2017 12:51:39
Wasn't that einstein's definition of insanity? Great post mate, agree on all points especially where fans think its ok to be where we are because of where we were. Its just not good enough. The players are truly awful and the manager is way out his depth. This may cause a stir but if I was dave king I would be on my knees begging walter smith to come back, yes dave king would have to dig deep. Who else could turn these players into a team?
05 Feb 2017 13:28:56
Smith won't manage an ibrox team again as he knows he doesn't have the funds! he is a cheque book manager and that's it! He knows he can't buy a team!
05 Feb 2017 13:49:54
Coldo I believe you are correct with it being Einstein's qoute.
To many players who do not take responsibility, see it after every goal or mistake they are quick to point the finger at someone else. I will support the team through good and bad, I've got my Seat and will sit through the cold to watch them, all we ask is the same commitment from the players and management
05 Feb 2017 09:58:42
Does anyone else who was at the game yestarday see a team in the first half who looked like they had lost faith in the manager especially when the went 1-0 down they just seemed to give up and look lost not one player has came out at all lately and says its not the managers fault we've just not performed if that was a performance to make up for the loss to hearts as players stated during the week then a would hate to see them not trying have to say this though don't agree with fans booing the team
05 Feb 2017 10:05:33
Scott87
I agree the first half they looked like a team that had lost faith with the manager. It was shambolic, no one wanted to take any responsibility and we were extremely lucky to go in only 1 down. Understand what your saying about the fans however all supporters boo their team at some point
05 Feb 2017 10:50:30
Agree with comments - Warburton understands fans booing but says players trying their best.
It follows something wrong - either the players aren't good enough or the manager isn't?
Not expecting to break the bank but something has to change
05 Feb 2017 12:04:34
Been reading the newspaper and glanced over the Sheep's game, when at 0-0 McInnes decided to take 2 defenders off and put on a centre forward and an attacking mid, changing system obviously in doing so bit prob something they've prepared for as most clubs would yeah. Reading it just made me shake my head, as now it wasn't anger. but just disbelief as to my own managers past decisions. Even against County it was like for like! thing is we've got to the point where we as supporters have now accepted these managerial decisions with the hope that Warbs will hear us and change this way of thinking all but gone 9.5 times out of 10 he will rotate like for like AND hour mark changes the norm. Hey don't get me wrong hour mark is a good time for changes and also an agreed time for a player if circumstances prevail etc BUT I bet a lot of the Bears booing at Ibrox were getting a lot more off their chest than the result. I would also add that when at Ibrox or watching a game on TV or even Radio its great to see your manager make a change that supporters didn't see coming or seeing the shape of the team change and talking about it during/ after especially if the change has a huge positive effect on the game and THIS is now something that I am now p***ed off at! As manager of Rangers you should be able to show supporters your abilities knowledge skill and be able to do this during games and then receive the supporters admiration i:e job well done! this part of the game has denied to us for far too long, not saying a manager makes decisions every game that totally changes it for the better BUT Warbs I feel has let us down in that department and there was prob a lot of frustration at end of County game bein let out, not just the end result of that game. Been a supporter of Warbs but now I think his stubbornness just regarding formation never mind the players he picks and were he plays them is now well fading, think we should stick with him till end of season and do think we can get 2nd
05 Feb 2017 12:13:17
I honestly believe it's the players that aren't good enough. We are creating 20+ chances in games and not scoring, that to me is the players fault. We have a player like Garner who thrives on a decent cross in the box. Not once did I see a decent ball in the box from Tav or Wallace. Miller has the positioning of a sunday league player. The fact he is being deployed in the front 3 and is never anywhere to be seen in the front 3 during the game is dire. We need investment, we were never going to come up in the first season with the signings we had made and secure 2nd easily. We need better quality, we all need to remember teams play like it's a final when they play us, so the fact we have players that are on par with Aberdeens is a massive issue.
05 Feb 2017 12:28:20
A suppose booing happens at most games why did warbs no take off senderos in the last 10 min nothing to do with his performance just using him as an example and put on dodoo and go for it a bit more at one point our passing tackling just became very lazy and the foul by toral near the end when ross county were counter attacking us should be teams doing that to us at ibrox not us to them a just don't know were we go from here honestly dont
05 Feb 2017 12:28:42
Speak for yourself stewie25! In my 42 years of going everywhere supporting rangers i can hand and heart say i've never booed a rangers team! So don't presume others do what you would term acceptable, even if you're trying to make yourself feel better because you do it!
05 Feb 2017 12:46:59
Andy: That is one of the reasons I WOULD have McInnes as manager, he will take risks and sensible ones at that, Warbs would never go for broke even at home v RC.
05 Feb 2017 13:04:06
Don't try to make it sound unacceptable SC11. The fans are perfectly within their rights to vent their frustration if they feel they are being short changed.
05 Feb 2017 12:54:11
It's not that they were not trying for the manager, you could see the fear in them after going 1-0 down, both players and manager aren't up to the job, totally underestimated this league even James tav, said he never expected it to be this hard, that says it all for me.
I think they expected it to be like last year, well they know now what it means to play for rangers, everybody wants to beat you because they all wish they were in your shoes, out with Celtic that is.
05 Feb 2017 13:10:08
Supercooper
why don't you read what I said. Fans boo their teams fro. Time to time. Are you denying this? Anyway why am I bothering to explain myself to a Warburton apologist? You are that blind you couldn't see the obvious. It's only now you see it. You are a joke just like your god Warburton. In fact you should be on here apologising to all the people you have had a go at who dared to criticise him
05 Feb 2017 14:00:14
We do not have a happy dressing room and that is reflected on the pitch. Gone are the days at Rangers when if we needed a goal to win a match a defensive player would be subbed for an attacking player. Number one priority with MW is the shape of the team must never be altered at any time. You get the opinion MW has a coaching manual (subs at 60 minutes no matter the score, play the ball out from the back, short corners a must at one time, no goals scored with headers etc. ) His style of football is one size fits all and seems incapable of taking advantage of any weaknesses our opponents may have.
05 Feb 2017 19:09:15
TBD, indeed he does have a prepared manual and sticks to it like glue. His substitutions are also predetermined (he said so himself) leaving no room for innovation, an inspired change or a chance to mix things up. He's playing Championship Manager and his experiment with our club has failed.
05 Feb 2017 21:49:50
Have u ever seen Aberdeen play? They take absolutely no risks. Against a Celtic team without a striker he sat back and employed Rudby tactics he has totally bottled it and every game against us and Celtic he plays for a draw
06 Feb 2017 00:38:25
Stewie25,I to have never at any time booed the Rangers. Why would I show hatred to the team that I love and have followed for almost 60 years
05 Feb 2017 09:09:19
What has happened with Joe Dodoo yesterday's game was crying out for a striker with his ability but again he sat on the bench?
05 Feb 2017 10:15:16
It's astonishing that having scored so few goals he has never had a chance. Complete waste of a young player and we would have been better putting him on loan rather than keep him as a bench warmer.
05 Feb 2017 12:55:25
Totally baffles me, if I was him I would want away, he's wasted on the bench, even though the team can't score, how must he be feeling.
05 Feb 2017 15:02:48
Warbs is quoted as saying dodoo was desperate to get on lol
05 Feb 2017 15:06:39
I would start Dodoo against Morton and play Miller upfront with him in a 4-4-2 formation.
Dodoo showed excellent composure and finishing when he scored his brace v Partick away back in November 2016.
Warbs give him a chance as he could be the answer to our goal scoring problems.
05 Feb 2017 08:57:13
It is a pity that we couldn't have kept Dominic Ball this season. The ideal DM player. Unlucky with Kranjcar and handled the Barton situation badly. Rossiter injury also concerning - did he pass a medical? That's a whole midfield out. I've said before give some kids a chance. Burt, Hardie and Thompson couldn't possibly fare worse than the like of Halliday, Garner et al. Worrying times.
05 Feb 2017 10:09:12
Doiger, whilst I agree with some of your sentiments and as you say you have been promoting the idea of bringing the younger lads in as they can't be any worse than some of the current first team squad, I'm not so sure. Yes if Hardie and Thompson were tearing the Championship apart at Raith Rovers but neither are starting in a struggling Raith side so there is little to suggest they would improve our recent poor performances. Burt is seen as a great prospect but almost completely untried at first team level so it would be heaping a lot of pressure on a young, fairly slight lad to come in and impose himself in midfield. Might be worth giving him a go from the bench but when Windass doesn't even make the bench and the woeful Halliday does there seems little chance of that currently.
05 Feb 2017 12:48:06
That was a joke yesterday, windass not even making the bench.
05 Feb 2017 15:10:37
I don't see hardie making it at gers but I would like to have seen burt in some squads and training with first team, he looks about ready to be introduced to first team football! Imo there is only a small window with young players when they are getting to the stage of being ready to step up they must be bled in to further thier development, leave it to late and they don't mature as they should and end up wasted
05 Feb 2017 16:06:18
Doiger
We don't have a recognised DM in the squad apart from Rossiter and he is injured.
Halliday is our only option and he is an attacking midfielder.
Hodson is good defensively but not sure if he could play DM.
05 Feb 2017 08:29:43
I've been a season ticket holders for 32 years. As many other fans I look forward to going to ibrox but to often leave disappointed. I really miss watching a good game. Warburton said " send the fans home happy ". How many of us are happy? His signings are either injured, out on loan, doesn't even play them or simply aren't good enough to play for Rangers. I hear fans singing about Garner, why? I really don't understand why. Yes he tries but a strikers priority is to score goals. For me £1.8million could have been better spent. Quite simply it's not working for Warburton and co.
05 Feb 2017 10:38:22
Strikers are only as good as the service they receive. If you were at the game yesterday then can you tell me how many times you seen miller or mackay coming back deep into our own half to get the ball? How can you supply a striker from there? Also all the dead ball/ set piece deliveries were appalling. At least Joe garner puts himself about.
05 Feb 2017 12:01:21
Nah Yogi, the guy just doesn't do it for me. I hear what you're saying about the service, or lack of it, but he did get at least 3 excellent chances yesterday and squandered all 3.
Good strikers will shoot when they get the chance, even on their weakest side. Too often he, and Waggy as well tbf, will try and move the ball on to their best side before shooting. The defenders know this as well and will expect it. Why not have a swing at it when you get the chance?
Surely a professional footballer should be good enough to hit the ball well on either side. I remember McCoist shooting with either foot and he didn't do too badly. Even Boyd would swing on either side.
Shearer would also take the ball early before the goalie has time to set himself. Strikers should spend most of their time on the training field practising shooting from all angles and with both feet. Rant over!
05 Feb 2017 15:10:11
Yogibear72
Garner puts himself about but goals win games.
1.8 million could have been better spent by Warburton
05 Feb 2017 15:13:13
Firat thing a striker is coached to do is take the shot as early as possible top top forwards don't take any more than one touch and bang
05 Feb 2017 18:52:27
Garner is just like sebo, loved for trying hard but that should be the least expected in a rangers shirt! Not worth a fraction of that transfer fee whole summer budget wasted on a dud striker
05 Feb 2017 18:13:33
When coaching youngsters we always said if the ball falls to your weak side, swing a leg at it anyway, don't footer around and lose the chance. Our strikers footer around.
05 Feb 2017 07:23:09
Bears. To change subject a bit, is there any other Euro Competition for the youngsters other than NextGen? Never hear of anything happening for us or any other Scots Unders Team? Is it the case that when a senior team qualifies for a Tournament then Unders enter a Comp? Anyways if anybody knows anything about European Competitions for Colts/ Unders please post it. Ta Bears.
{Ed001's Note - just about the biggest in Europe these days is the summer Milk Cup, though that is U18s and below if I remember correctly.}
05 Feb 2017 12:59:37
Correct, I'm pretty sure that's in Northern Ireland and the comp has been running for years, Rangers are always represented at that tourney.
05 Feb 2017 19:23:23
The Milk Cup is for various age groups up to Under 17s. It is now called the Supercup and has had various formations over the years. There was a long spell when Rangers refused to enter the tournament when they found out that Man Utd were getting paid a lot of money to go, while Rangers, even though they were the biggest draw at the competition, paid their own way.
Rangers won the 1992 premier tournament when they beat Hearts in the final. Charlie Miller scored two goals and I was there, but in general Rangers didn't do all that well in their spasmodic appearances.
05 Feb 2017 01:00:15
Just seriously frustrated at Warburtons blasie approach. Again dropped points today. I know they say keep believing but the fear is setting in whether we will achieve second, even third. We just look awful. Hearts look like a very decent outfit with Cathro in charge and look to be moving forward. Aberdeen are ahead of us. We on the other hand are moving in a direction that I don't even think exists. I mean most of those players are woeful, lots of it down to Warburton on his signing selection. Do loan signings even work at a club like Rangers. These young guys have no fu'ing clue what it means to wear the shirt, i'm totally against it. We should be planning for next season NOW, we need to take the time to make sure next season we actually put up a fight even if we are 10pts behind celtic come end of the season its progress. Rant over. 💙.
05 Feb 2017 04:19:46
I get where you're coming from mate. There's a reason why we only have signed loan players in Jan. Actually there's multiple reasons all stemming from the board and truth be told from what I know I don't blame them at this moment in time.
05 Feb 2017 05:49:48
Yes loans at this current time work Rmger I get what u mean tho but Toral and Hyndman could stay depending on Europe but remember also we got Davis through a start with a loan but times are very different now but I do think that loans IF we get top top talent in through our connections can work.
I have supported Warbs always and I still like the guy BUT regarding what you said about signings I think nearly all are good players its just the formation Warbs deploy AND where Warbs puts these guys AND what he's asking them to do which is now the problem he must realize that the lads could be used and would play far better if he adjusted his system! a 4-3-3 with 2 of the attack hugging the wings is a very difficult system to play! teams like Munich M. City play this type of system and even there players find it a big ask! its a wonderful way of playing, to watch it done well is great but if the players can't nail it AND playing aagainst quality teams makes it harder and harder which starts a vicious circle cause then players become frustrated their confidence takes a hit supporters see a team on the pitch looking as if their struggling to play football when its the TYPE of football their trying to play. I wish Warbs would revert to a solid 4-4-2 and poss alter once team has settled, scored OR just leave it alone. Having a right footer on the left! Garner in the middle knocking his pan in when he would play better and prob score more if he was up front with a partner. Yeah this system worked for most of last season BUT even at tail end teams had used AND the better sides took control at their grounds. This is why I think Warbs will go at end of season this and fact Hill and Miller have not been tied up yet as I think King will want new manager to make that decision
05 Feb 2017 07:33:47
ger88 what is it you know then?
05 Feb 2017 09:15:36
Warburton is clueless. Even after a season and a half he still doesn't get what it is to be a Rangers manager. He still doesn't know his best 11, he goes in a childish huff when he gets criticised and his press conferences are embarrassing. The sooner this imposter leaves the better
05 Feb 2017 09:29:04
The only reason to sign up Hill or Miller is if Rangers can't afford anyone else. Where would they get a game? Miller maybe a season in a lower premier league team. Come to think of it that is probably Rangers. Yep sign up Miller for another season. Might finish 4th or 5th with a 38year old main striker.
05 Feb 2017 11:30:40
Balloch it's quite well known now that King doesn't fancy Warbs and first time. time a club comes in with a decent comp offer he's off. King doesn't want to give warbs money to fritter away hence the loans mate.
05 Feb 2017 12:03:54
I'd like to see us go to a 4-4-2 as well and I would go with garner and o'halloran up top. Garner to win aerial balls and general hold up play and o'halloran to use his pace and power from knock ons and running the channels, a role dodoo could play also, if we were to use o'halloran on the wing with McKay on the other with hyndman and toral in the middle. Defence I think would have to be Wallace, hodson, Wilson and prob hill or senderos.
05 Feb 2017 12:27:08
The formation is our biggest downfall, we just don't have the players to play that way and we don't have a manager with the ability to change it at any point which is diabolical and from what I saw yesterday I think most of the players have no idea what they have to do either at times, fair enough we probably should have won yesterday had it not been for their keeper who made some cracking saves but in my opinion it would just have papered over the cracks again as we are just not good enough especially when we go a goal down.
05 Feb 2017 13:06:09
Andy your post was spot on, I can't understand why we haven't switched to a 442,it's bloody common sense, we don't have good enough players to play the system he wants, that's why I've turned against him, he can't even do the basics right, if something isn't working bloody change it, but not warburton, he keeps expecting a different outcome.