Rangers Banter Archive September 04 2012

 

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04 Sep 2012 21:50:29
Not a rumour, more of a question....
When we play Queens Park at
Hampden do the SFA get any money
from it ??

Rabfaethedale {Ed039's Note - No, why would they?)

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Rab - you can go to the game with a clear concience knowing your money is going to a fellow SFL club

JG

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I know where your coming from m8 I dont want the support the SFA in any way but if we boycott the Queens Park game then all we are doing is hurting them. I would imagine they only pay a yearly rental fee to the SFA for use of their piss poor facilities.

Gers1986

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but by buying season tickets, going to games (home and away) you are supporting the SFA. Where do you think they get a portion of their money from? The member clubs perhaps?
Al

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Is hampden not queens parks stadium and they pay queens park

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Its queens park who own 51% of hampden

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By joining the sfl and getting a licence from the sfa you cant support them any more than your doing ...

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It's easy to be a Rangers supporter "most successful club in the world". The best supporters are those who follow their local club year in year out with little if any chance of success. {Ed039's Note - What a load of rubbish)

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Other teams in Scotland outwith the SPL have terrible supporters. Dunfermline for example may as well close down as their fans are non existent. Few SPL clubs like that too.

J

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ED39.. Care to explain what part of that guys post was rubbish..
Rangers part

Fans part

Or all of it?

Dtp89 {Ed039's Note - The part saying its easy to be a Rangers supporter, has nobody seen what we have been through in the last 7 months?)

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Ed's comment exactly what you would expect from a Rangers supporter. Absolutely no idea what it is like to follow a small club. Why do Partick a big city club not have a large following, because they do not win trophies. Also not secterian.

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Is that what spl fans do, i think not! boycotts was supposed happen if gers where allowed in sp hell, am i right ed. {Ed039's Note - It was threatened)

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04 Sep 2012 21:01:45
does anyone know if it is true the SFA switched the RangersvQOS game because they were worried about the crowd difference between Hamden and Ibrox

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Why whats happening at hampden ?? {Ed039's Note - Rangers v QoS game was shifted because Rangers have players on international dut with N Ireland, Scotland Under 21s, 19s etc)

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We could have and should have requested that the game went ahead even if we would have been without little and shiels

JG

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Exactly - "Why what happening at Hampden"
Still like to see Scotland win (or maybe am 50/50 now) but instead of going to the game and paying in at the gate so the SFA can lord it up I will just watch it on the tv.

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@3, your still giving money 2 sfa if you watch game on tv, they have your cash from sky !

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04 Sep 2012 20:43:07
Reading some of the comments posted on here by people of the non Rangers persuasion smacks of desperation to me. You have punished us, kicked us when we were down, bullied your chairmen under a false banner of "sporting integrity" but when it came to the firing squad to kill us off you missed. Does it hurt that much that we have survived that you are compelled to come on hear and constantly berate us from that moral high ground. Why are you bothered with us we are just a little 3rd division team with the best, most loyal fans in the whole of Scotland. Are you scared we are going to come back and haunt you in 4 years time. I WOULD BE

Arte et Marte

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Ghost is the right word ...

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I follow Ayr United never won the league,never won the cup, never won the league cup, never played in Europe. If Rangers had our track record you would have no one watching and you would be bankrupt, oh sorry I forgot you are bankrupt. {Ed039's Note - You must be the best supporters in the world then?)

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Great post

How can anyone be proud of a club that cheated consistantly for all these years - got caught up in its own mytholygy and went bust owing millions.

You know the truth
We know that you know the truth
We feel your shame
Denial hurts - seek help

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Cheated Consistently?? I assume you mean the EBT's? Terrible business! and there was plucky wee Celtic - using EBT's, shipping in "stars" on mega wages paid directly by their owner, putting referrees under constant pressure and abuse, Lennon acting like the eejit he was and still is. Or maybe you are a Jambo who's owner doesn't like paying the wages or is your team Dundee or Livingston who suffered the same fate as Rangers?. You see, I and most other Rangers fans feel no shame because we had the best team who consistantly outplayed the rest of the league. I am sad that Whyte tried to destroy us but NOT ASHAMED. The truth is that your bitterness is the real shame of Scottish Football. Go have a lie down and settle yourself
Blue Knows

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To the OP - Great post mate and the responses you got just proves exactly what you said. People in this country are totally obsessed with Rangers and driven solely on hatred for our club and our support. I hope I live to see the day that we rise back to the top because that day will be the greatest in our already great and successful history. Keep the faith WATP

Gers1986

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THE TRUTH - 54 League titles. Celtic not good enough.
Of course we know the truth. My Grandfather told my Dad,my Dad told me,i seen 20 of them myself and partied after every one of them.
No Shame here mate. Just pride and good memories.
Denial - Celtic fans think their club is the greatest in the world. - You know your club is second best,always has been always will be. There's just no denying that.
P.O.B.

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OP. Nice to see at last your admitting you'r
only a 'wee 3rd division club'

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The Truth is EBTS's aare not illeagal or a form of cheating. We are being investigated for dual Contracts which my murray says he informed the spl/sfa. People sorry Celtic fans really need to start reading up on things before they come on to rangers fans website and start spurting there S**TE

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No 6 thanks for saying we are second best i was thinking barcelona man u and real madrid must be up their but glad you see us as second ... cheers mate

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POB THE TRUTH IS....that club that won 54 titles is dead.....killed by Whyte.....the man with wealth off the radar!

Celtic fans may not have won as many league titles but we did win the European Cup son. So that means Celtic ARE the biggest club in Scotland.

Celtic played Inter Milan, Ajax and Real Madrid in friendlies.....then gained entry to the Champions League to face Barcelona, Benfica and Spartak

Sevco played Aidrie and Albion (behind closed doors ) in friendlies, then kicked off their new season in the Ramsdens Cup.

Who is the big club?

DazzaBhoy (Champions 2012-_

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04 Sep 2012 20:34:56
Ref
5.) No points after 4 games 20 million in the bank,its tough at the top.basher

that 20 mill was guaranteed before the end of the transfer window you sold Ki for around 6 mill thats 26 mill in the bank as you put it. you get a couple of loan deals and sign someone for just over 1 mill. is this the level of backing Mr Liewell was talking about when at the end of last season he said he would back Lennon in the CL 20 million in the share holders bank you should be saying

Lochaber Bear

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That money will be used too extend contracts and up there weekly wage concideraby too numerous players in our squad,plus balance the books if dont make europe the next few years,as qualifying gets harder from next year..stevo.lawell does a great job {Ed039's Note - Stevo, I thought you had gone, nice to see you still like talking crap, a least your consistent)

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Maybe Mr. Lawell doe's not want to fall into the same trap your OLD team fell into.
Tam

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Ed....how is Stevo talking crap? (as you so eloquently put it)

So Lawell is looking after his finances.....shame David Murray etc didn't do the same. Then we'd still have RFC!

DazzaBhoy {Ed039's Note - Dazza Stevo always talks mince, you should see some of the posts that dont make it through)

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04 Sep 2012 18:40:03
From the article on the rangers website it sounds like bocanegra is finished as a Ger! Talking about special memories and awe that. I thought he was just away out on Loan????

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04 Sep 2012 17:16:27
Lead Rangers to great things, what is that the 3rd division title/play offs and or the Harry Ramsdens, everyone wins a fish supper cup. Hardly great things my friend.

Also how can the roadbe broad and narrow, it's got to be one or the other, make up your mind??

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May the streets be broad or narrow.

Dtp89

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Streets (the key is in the plural)

Leeroy

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The person you refer to as 'mate' has the club at heart when posting his/her point , which I agree with. I wouldn't expect you to get it either, that's ok I guess. His/her words or in which order they come are not the standout thing for me. It's the fact they come from a Rangers fan and thankful for that we are, whether they be 'broad and narrow'or not.
Ps this is only my opinion.Peace brother or sister x

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Quite possibly the worst attempt at humour I've seen on this forum.

The joke about Harry Ramsdens has no relevance to the tournament Rangers are playing in.

MUPPET!!

TTG

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Lol what's even worse is not everyone wins the ramsden cup Celtic never will

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04 Sep 2012 17:15:52
"Today we are the strongest club in Scotland," he added in an interview with Der Spiegel magazine. "We have the biggest fanbase, no debts, no loans, no overdraft and money in the bank.

You also don't have access to Europe for the next 3 years which severely limits your income stream!
I was also under the impression The Rangers owed CG about £9m in a loan due to be repaid in 8 years?

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In fairness he knows how gullible these fans are he watched murrey and whyte feed them nonsense and he knows they believe anything

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If all the other spl clubs fans wake up they will see all for what it is, septic dont have a challenge for champ league, they will be the ones to get all monies 4 next few years, the rest will get scraps thats why it was a septic agenda to get everybody against the gers, so when the adm/ liquidator comes calling to your club just think of septic YOU helped and their champs league money , they will not give you a second look after all they have the games integrity to up hold, and the less competiton the more cash they get, hopefully some of you with half a brain cell can see this! tambo72

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Poster number 2, paranoid or what? Pmsl
You guys went on calling Celtic supporters paranoid and now this! Paranoid? No, I think delusional would fit your description better lol

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@3 stop making me laugh your unhealthy obsession with all things rangers is still shining bright

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04 Sep 2012 14:48:14
Binman asks

If a transfer registration arrives after the deadline for acceptance - is it a valid transfer

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Fs binman i hope that was a joke as my sides are splitting

and the answer is NO

JG

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@1. no he is trying to suggest rangers never signed templeton before the transfer deadline and the sfa cheated to help us out! just more of the sh*t and paranoia...mark. {Ed001's Note - you are allowed a two hour extension, so long as the relevant FA is informed, to get the paperwork to them on a deadline day. There was no cheating involved, it is sad that anyone would think so, there were a number of deals in England that also had to make use of the ruling.}

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04 Sep 2012 13:07:14
Scottish League Cup has a Minimum Recommended Price. Third Division Adults £9.00 Juveniles and Senior Citizens £4.50

Any Club wishing to charge less than the Minimum ... must obtain the consent of its opponents prior to the match taking place. Rule 9.2

You can't go below that level and you must allow your financial records to be inspected. £1 entry to Ibrox for the M'well game is total nonsense.

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Yeah but it would be funny though. But just goes to show the total greed by spl clubs we wwant to kick you when your down but we will take cash of you when the chance occurs. You got to laugh though a spl club relying on a third div club for a pay day so sad it makes me laugh

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Ffs neil ur in the champions league be happy.

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3)
Binman says

You really have swallowed the same old pish.

Rangers will not have to support any of the SPL clubs

Despite warnings of Armagedon by the biased media, we are doing better without you - you will be doing well to get through the season, but the warnings are being ignored again

See you in 4 years- if your lucky.

PS - not missing you at all!

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@3: so it's not on for clubs to expect cup ticket money to be split according to the rules in place?

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Your own club is relying on an spl club you might get more than 26000 this time

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Binman more like dimman see that's what we love about you Celtic lot you try that hard to try and make it look like you don't care when in reality your obsession with us just smacks of desperation jeso what would you lot do if we really were no more who would you spew your venom on then. Believe you me the signs are there Aberdeen saying if they don't get the go ahead to build a new stadium they might be bust next year. Hearts that desperate to get money in and cut wages sell to rangers Inverness is in dyer straits Motherwell never had enough supporters to pay players wages over the season believe you me they are over the moon they got us at ibrox Dundee united are up Sh,t creek without a paddle hey but you won't listen

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Binbag we are supporting the spl clubs with the tv deal if you cant see that then you are dumb...mark.

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04 Sep 2012 12:43:32
Kirk Broadfoot having a medical at blackpool, guess he doing alright for himself.

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If that Steven crainey can get a game then there is hope for anyone down I'm blackpool.

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Aye a medical to work at a candy floss machine in the Pleasure Beach. Good riddance to him.

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I think he'll end up with egg on his face...

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Give the guy a break, he was constantly played out of position, he was a centre half and when all the others walked out on Rangers he was willing to stay and try to earn a place in the team, unfortunately it didn't work.
Good luck and all the best from a real Rangers supporter!

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That'll be to make sure he's fit enough to walk along the beach several times a day and won't bite or throw children off his back?

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Binman says

Poor form - no way to treat a hero who Tupe'd over, gave you a chance at a transfer fee.

This guy has a simple love of the club that he supported as a kid - a Ger through and through.

The amount of bile thrown at him has been shocking - is this how you treet your own.

How many of your existing playing staff would run through a brick wall for Ally?

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04 Sep 2012 11:38:29
Beginning to see a bit of light now I think not opening the papers every day to doom and gloom hope this is the start of something good for us and that it benefits the rest of Scottish football c'mon the gers

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Dual contracts/title stripping next week and EBT later in the month.

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@1 What do you mean next week? it's every day on here with the oh'ffended obsessed.

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Dont you just love living in a country where you are guilty until proven innocent.....

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@3 no one said you were guilty. our day in court is next week, them we'll see guilty or innocent.

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@4 i think you'll find the wording "dual contracts/ title stripping next week and ebt later in the month " only emplys guilt by only stating a punishment. eg no use of could be, should be etc bbb :o)

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04 Sep 2012 11:12:33
Well for SPL teams we r debt free and NO overdraft and for the doubters GREEN has kept his word

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Why would you not be debt free, your a new company are you not.
Tam

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Definately a CVA agreed.
HMRC on board with proposals
No chance of liquidation
20 investors already committed
SPL here we come
SFL1 here we come
3 Billionaires
5 players from the euros
9 loan players from Newcastle
6 in before transfer deadline
Players not TUPEing over will be sued
The BBC will be sued

I am sure I have missed a few but you can see the pattern
My worry is that now that Ally is on board with his share in the group - no one is left to trust.
Remember the recent past
Keep your eyes open and don't swallow the same pish

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Green loan?

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No bank will supply an overdraft and Greens consortium are owed how many millions now? VAT quarter coming soon that might open things up

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Yet you still insist you's are the same club! What has green kept his word about? Signing euro 2012 players, ally's 25 year deal? Not liquidating the old club? Too many other lies to remember!

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Thought Ally hasn't invested in a share yet?

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In response you have missed dozen's not a few.

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@6: who knows who to believe - Green or McCoist have said different things regarding that.

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Ally has already been given the shares in lieu of his SPL salary (£1,000,000 per year).

Master stroke by Green, who gets to silence the one trusted voice for the Bears.
Great for Ally - although he gives up a significant part of his salary, he will still be the second highest paid in Scotland.
Cant lose if it all goes t ts up - his SEVCO shareholding is worth x 4 at least of the 500,000 if the assets are liquidated.
This is based on values for car park Ibrox and MP

Bears lose their figure head.

4.5% = 30 silver pieces

Very sad

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@tam, we are a new company but the same football team

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04 Sep 2012 10:14:01
regarding should we go to the Motherwell game heres my take on this

and remember bhoys i am giving my opinion here and speaking only for myself i know many Rangers fans will disagree with me but as i said im speaking only for me

as far as the SPL goes i will not step inside a SPL ground for the next 3 years i will continue to go to home games regardless of the opposition. the reason i will not set foot in a SPL ground for three years are as follows

1 they voted unanimously to kick us into the wilderness of Scottish football for a minimum of three years. this decision was not made on the grounds of integrity ( something that Spl football is severely lacking)it was made on the grounds of fan pressure.

2 they hoped that the SFL would allow us into the Div 1 so they would only have to go potentially 1 year without the huge financial income we generate. (it came as a great shock to them when the SFL teams showed some integrity and put us in Div 3 and rightly so.

3 not only have the Spl and the SFA blackmailed Rangers into accepting illegal sanctions (transfer embargo)they tried to blackmail the SFL into bending to their will using bully boy tactics.

4 the fans of the SPL clubs have made it quite clear they dont want or need us in the SPL so they wont want or need the money our fans spend at their grounds.


i know its not the fault of the individual SPL clubs for the position Rangers find themselves in but the blood-lust from a vast majority of their fans is plain to see they are not satisfied that Rangers are starting over again at the bottom rung of the ladder they want Rangers beaten into extinction and removed from the history books.

so can you really blame some Rangers fans for retaliating after all it is not us fans who put our club in this predicament it was the former custodians of our club, but a vast majority of opposition fans hold the Rangers fans personally responsible.

if any SPL club goes to the wall their fans need to look in the mirror and see who is to blame.

first and foremost themselves for not turning out in their thousands to support their clubs week in week out like Rangers fans do (they manage to do it at cup finals)

and secondly for cutting of a income stream ( Rangers away fans) with this constant blood-lust.

and before the usual halfwits like Stevo starts spouting their rubbish

i Know whos fault it is we are where we are SDM and CW not mine or the eds or any other rangers fan.


Lochaber Bear

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It wasn't the SPL that got us liquidated it was the taxman and whether we like it or not Charles Green had input into this. He bought our assets for next to nothing bu t didn't do anything to try to stop us being liquidated as I believe that was what he wanted all along. It could have been prevented our standing in football and business would be better now, I know some others are gloating at us, but it has been our own boasting by our previous owners that has brought this on. Now the new owner is boasting about how wealthy we will be and have no debts ( sounds familiar ) a little humility wouldn't go wrong. Let's get back to supporting the Gers anywhere, everywhere we will follow on and forget this bitterness for our own sakes and that of Scottish football
Bobby

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@1:They voted that the rules be followed and when liquidation was announced this was the only logical option.No matter how you cut it major financial rules were broken and that left a nasty taste in lots of fans mouths.
@2:I agree,they did think the vote would work for them.But you cannot say you were kicked to the wilderness for years and then agree with the SFL clubs for doing it
@3: If you had not accepted any sanctions you could not transfer your old clubs licence.This would have left you starting in the Juniors.
@4:That is up to the individual.

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Give it a rest you are lucky you got straight entry in the leagues after liquidation. Also clubs were under fan pressure because football is all about the fans and the fans decided rangers should be punished accordingly. The sfa actually tried to fix it for your benefit so I don't see why rangers fans act like it was the opposite way about. Stop moaning you have a strong enough squad to come straight back up, 3 years will go quick and normal service will resume.

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OP, wrong, wrong, wrong. You even negated your own first point in your second point.
1) The SPL did not vote Sevco out. They did not vote them in. Your new club was never a member of the SPL. They also did not consign you to the "wilderness" for 3 years, the SFL were involved in that as well, as you point out in Point 2.
2) Why not boycott all SFL clubs. Had they not shown "integrity" you would have only been in the "wilderness" for one year.
3) The introduction of Sevco into the SFL is a blow to the ambitions of the other clubs in the division they ended up in (SFL3 as it turned out) who would have their eyes on promotion under normal circumstances. One of the clubs in SFL3 will more than likely lose out on a play-off place and another may lose the chance of adding a title to their history. So there had to be some kind of sweetener and a mechanism to allow the other clubs to believe that they still have a shot at promotion. I'm sure many of the SFL3 clubs would have wanted the ban on signing players to be with immediate effect rather than there being an opportunity to strengthen. There is no legal or illegal when it comes to conditions of entry into the SFA, or other organisation for that matter (aside from those which go against the law of the land). If you don't like the conditions, don't join. I'm sure many readers will know of at least two organisations with entry conditions some may not agree with.
4) No opinion on this one.

Before you come on and try to blame everybody for your current situation you might want to make yourself aware of the facts.
Most fans of Scottish football just wanted this matter to be cleared up in a fair way, the way any other club would have been treated upon finding themselves in the same predicament.

So you believe that the individual SPL clubs are not to blame, but the bloodlust of their fans, so why punish the clubs by a boycott when you don't blame them directly?

True your fans are not to blame for what happened to Rangers, but I don't understand how you think the fans are being punished. How do you as a fan feel that you have been punished?
Al

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Well said Bobby, at last a realist,who face's the truth.
Tam

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Correct me if I am wrong but didn't most bears want to start afresh in SPL3.
The fans had years of opportunity to rescue the old club.
To be honest Scottish football is a complete shambles with 2/3 of the fan base supporting 2 teams invariably leaving the rest to live on the scraps. Very sad.

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So narrow minded its unreal

Well ask your self this.... If rangers went straight back into the spl or div 1 then everyone would be going down the tubes more so hearts!

The bar has been set so if you go bust and come back as a newco then you start from the bottom and work your way up. If rangers gett vip treatment and just div 1 and anyone else who was in there shoes never got the same as them then it would be corrupt..

Rangers got into the mess they were in, green had a chance to save them and saw it would be easier to just start a fresh

Lenny

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@4 stop refering to sevco (who are they?) as to my knowlege they dont exsist as my club are called the rangers football club Ltd!!

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Yea well we have all got our opinions on this matter and im afraid none of the above comments have changed my opinion i have no interest in helping keep football clubs afloat whos fans have wished for the death of my club and before all the comments about people like me giving Rangers a bad name its entirely up to me how i spend my cash and i choose not to spend it at any SPL ground yes im bitter,angry and hurt at what SDM and craig whyte have done to my club but im equally angry and bitter and hurt at the Blood-lust shown by the majority of the opposition fans towards Rangers.

i was brought up to belive if you cant do someone a good turn dont do them any kind of turn at all you definitely dont kick em when they are down

Lochaber Bear

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Stick an extra £10 on to their fans tickets.

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@ lenny

at no time did i say we should have stayed in spl or div 1 what angers me is the spl wanted to change the rules so they could minimise the financial pain on themselves to the point they tried to blackmail the SFL all integrity went right out the window and it backfired on them i for one believe we are where we belong for the misdemeanour's Murrry and whyte committed whilst running our club

Lochaber Bear

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1 you wont step foot in the spl for the next three year because your in the 3rd however this is not an spl game its the league cup a trophy that you want your club to win so how can you say that and not go and support them ??

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It doesnt matter whos fault it is the fact is rangers will be liquidated green bought the assets and started a new club that club has to start at the bottom like everyone else they cant get special treatment just because yous choose to support that new club ...

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Seem too forget that BDO will have a big say in the way duff&phelps handed over too greene,they not once acted on behalf of the creditors,which is there job too do!!worst admin in history,they will be under investigation,dont think the storm has ended,as when they do there in detail investigations off what went on at rangers, can see plenty more twists&turns too come,from name of club,fradulant activity,greenes takeover,as for ibrox,albion car park& murray park picked up for about 1&half million!!!something stinks big time! stevo

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@Al: it could be argued that Rangers were treated better than any other club that might have been liquidated. There were those who were desperate to let them into the SPL or SFL1, remember. And if any other club had been liquidated, it's possible they would have faced a contest with non-league clubs for SFL3 entry.

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And its following the rules by bullying rangers into a tv deal to prop up the spl aye integrity shines through...mark.

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@15. Point taken.

@16. Don't try to take the moral high ground. Do you honestly believe that your club's owners were not doing everything they could to get into the SPL or SFL1. Their sporting integrity certainly shines through.
Al

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04 Sep 2012 08:42:53
I for one am sick of dazzaboy's responses to attendances, saying he can't wait till mid November to see if we still get 46,000 for matches against peterhead, will Celtic get over 46,000 in mid November for games against inverness etc? I very much doubt it, by mid November when barca beat Celtic for the 2nd time and leave them on 0 points after 4 games all the glory Hunters will be nowhere near porkhead again.

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Let them worry about attendances the loyal Rangers supporters that turn out every other weekend no matter how many are all that matters to our club.
They kicked us when we were down lets get back to where we belong, this whole scenario is part of our history as is the 54 league titles and numerous cups they can never take it away.
Rangers then, Rangers now, Rangers forever!

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Answer to that is dont read his comments ignore him! hes looking for a response from you so dont bite and dont read his sh*t...mark.

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Tis a banter page old bean
Tam

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Binman says

We did not kick you while you were down

You fell into the gutter under your own steam - we simply wanted the mess disposed off.

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No points after 4 games 20 million in the bank,its tough at the top.basher

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OP (would be good if you left a name, but maybe you'll get a spine for your christmas) the attendance at ibrox will be immense i'm sure....but when folk have the choice of sitting at home, nice and warm, or going to ibrox to watch Peterhead, Elgin or whatever team your playing.....are you gonna go? Are you going to spend that extra £30? Or are you gonnna chill and watch the tele?

Season tickets sales mean nothing, Celtic have 45,000 yet most oif those fans pick their games to go to. Football is about wondering whether your good enough to win games! That brings in the punters, going along to football will become boring for your fans, if they're cruising the 3rd, which you should seeing as you've been allowed to move the transfer ban.

When the best thing they have to look forward to is the chance of meeting an SPL team, then fans will only attend those games. And it will be the same at my club, but we have Champions League games to look forward to. We have the opportunity to see Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Jardel (remember his wife!!), Pablo Aimar and MCGeady coming to town, so we will get more punters.

All teams need to more family friendly, lets get shot of the silly "porkheid" stuff. Lets be adult about all this.


1 Your club died due to bad management
2 No Scottish Football Club killed you
3 You've still got ibrox
4 You've got a club to support

Care to retort?

DazzaBhoy

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You will need that twenty mil and more wages every year, millions owed to your owner, running costs what about next year the year after?? mark.

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04 Sep 2012 08:09:50
Green also boasted of the strength of Rangers' financial position. The club shed all its debt when the oldco went into liquidation.

"Today we are the strongest club in Scotland," he added in an interview with Der Spiegel magazine. "We have the biggest fanbase, no debts, no loans, no overdraft and money in the bank.

"Rangers are among the 15 most famous clubs in the world. We have the product, the names and the brand."

Green saying we have no loans? I thought the money to buy Rangers was a loan which means we have debt? Or am i mistaken? Or is Green talking Pi@sh again!

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Greens major problem going forwards is always going to be the brand.

Please take off the blinkers for a moment and put yourselves in the place of a potential sponsor with a budget, looking to place there cash

Rangers are now linked to
Cheating
Tax Evasion
Fraud (on going enquiry into original takeover)
Enqury into Sevco takeover
SPL enquiry into recent titles.
Huge mismanagement at all levels and corporate collapse.

Where do you put the positive spin on that lot

I believe that the recent circling of the wagons by the Rangers fans - nobody likes us ect. can only further alienate the brand.
What neutral would want to be associated with anything supporting the Rangers brand.

Top 15 famous - no
Top 3 notorious - probably

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It was only a loan if we were granted a cva - when this was knocked back the 5.5m was paid by the investors and converted into shares in the newco so no loan

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Loans can be paid off. Ever thought of that?

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@1 Looks to me like there are plenty companies still advertising around the stadium on matchdays who still want associated with the 'brand", why wouldnt they look at the size of the market. sky still showing our games, why wouldnt they look at the audience they can attract (almost as many timmys as bears tuning in)

Just accept it, dont beat yourself up over it and and make life easier on yourself, we are still here

JG

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@1 obviously a Celtic fan what do we worry about neutrals for we don't need neutrals all we need is a healthy support I have already help produce three new rangers fans they know what happened to rangers and they are even more determined to support rangers. We don't need anyone else the rest need us simple we won't be affected by not being in the spl the only thing I will miss is a chance at European football over the next 3/4 years

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And you will miss football instead of watching hoofball enjoy the diddy league

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Ive said this before rangers are getting more world wide coverage than ever and its not bad either companies would love to be linked with that kind of exposure...mark.

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04 Sep 2012 05:24:22
Charles Green in going to arrange a football accademy over in china for 16 year olds and up and when they are 18 green will have a look at the good ones and bring them over for a trail, this will be great financialy

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Good idea but why would Green be looking at them and not scouts/coaches?

Think we should be looking to Scottish talent ahead of foreign markets - also would be issues with work permits I would imagine so this is probably a non starter.

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Green arranging a football academy in China?

He didn't even see fit to enter a team in the Scottish Under 20s league?

Why not?

BARNEY BEAR

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1) man utd have in the past brought in players fro abroad loaned the to clubs in other countries then applied for work permit the following season, so why can't we do the same?
Blueice

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Don't know if it's true about the football academy but wouldn't be a bad idea. Football is big over here and getting bigger (bar districts in all big cities in China were crammed with supporters during the last Euros and if you know China, you know all it's cities are big cities.) There is also plenty of money out here so for merchandising alone, having a Chinese national in the team could be huge as well as increasing our brand awareness. Haven't seen many tasty players in the local leagues though so who knows.

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Dount the Chinese will be interested in Scotland, lets face it, did Celtic become big in China when Cha Du Rei or whetever he was called play over here.

More spin from Green! {Ed039's Note - was Cha not Korean?)

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03 Sep 2012 23:46:49
Is sandaza injured or has he just been left out of the squad.

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It's the busiest time of the year for weddings he's probably booked up most weekends.

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