Rangers Banter Archive March 04 2015

04 Mar 2015 21:20:03
Statement just out from DK saying that P Murray will be chairman until he sorts everything out with SFA, and (celtic supporters).

Things starting to move along - wonder who will be writing letters of complaint to the SFA / SPFL and all and sundry. Oh the fairminded moral high ground folk will be coming out in force. I can feel another advert taking shape and a banner or two.

04 Mar 2015 22:47:04
Nobodys looking for a childish argument my friend, some people just naturally accept that there rules in place at the request of the clubs, inc your own, and who agreed to them i.e. dual ownership and directors being excluded if they were in a position of aliqudated concern. Rather than focus your attention away to other clubs in an effort to deflect attention spare a thought of what happens shd mr kings resolutions pass but neither he or mr muarry are deemed fit and proper bearing in mind they are named in the resolutions put forward. I am merely concerned at the state of one half of symbiotic relationship that is failing causing damage to my club. Not all celtic fans are narrowed minded just the same as not all gers fans were responsible for Manchester. Best of luck I geniuely hope the situation gets better but I don't buy into the histeria over mr king, being better with devil you know is still in bed with a devil.

04 Mar 2015 17:16:45
The laat few days actions of what remains of the board has for me shown their true colours so blatantly.

The unbelievable lengths they are prepared to try and drag Rangers down with them by any means possible is frankly a disgrace.

Were they able to I am onvinced Llameass and Leach would be dousing Ibrox in petrol and burning the stadium down as they desert us with as much money as they can pilfer in the last 36 hours.

I think back to a recent Newcastle fan who recorded Llameass saying "Just wait till you see how horrible we can be", this rings true so clearly now and for me is the true face of Llameass and Leach, (also recorded as being disgracefully disrespectful to the 3 Bears and blatantly lying).

So to all the Ashley supporting persons out there this is what these people really think of Glasgow Rangers and its "stupid" fans they are contemptable and I for one can hardly wait to see them thrown out of our club for good on Friday if they are not hounded out before then.

Dave King is as I have admitted no angel but I am in agreement with 99% of the Rangers support and the 3Bears, Gilligan Murray, Murdoch, Gough, Souness and many other respected people he is the best thing possible for Rangers at this time in our history and in our hour of need against these charlatans

I have seen a couple of people quoting Churchill on here and it reminded me of my history classes on WW2. He was by no means unilaterally popular with the British public and in particular the establishment who all wanted Lord Halifax, a man not up to the job of leading Britain in a war.Halifax bottled it and acceeded, Churchill rose to the challenge and history proved him to be the leader our country needed. Dave King is not the unilaterally popular figure akin to Churchill but he is 100% the right man to stand up to these crooks and will in time be proven I believe to be the architect of a new Rangers era with an open and Rangers minded board and he will bring FAN ownership to Glasgow Rangers he already has over 55% of Rangers owned by "fans" as he and 3ears are fans and there is over 20% shares owned by Rangers fans now as stated recently on radio debate.

i am george

{Ed039's Note - George, did you just compare Dave King to Winston Churchill?)

04 Mar 2015 17:49:31
lolol

Not the person as such, funny Ed, I was meaning the type of situation we are in requires a man that can deal with these types of bad persons. So in relation to our position currently King is the right man for the job.

i am kiding

{Ed039's Note - I am sure you will see I removed your last line George, didnt think it would go down well)

04 Mar 2015 18:04:52
The best thing about your post George is its full of something that's been in short supply at our club in recent years HOPE! A commodity I believe that will continue to grow under the new regime.

04 Mar 2015 18:26:27
George - I feel your pain mate. We are all suffering, so we are.

First caller on Radio Clyde tonight - a fechin celtic supporter complaining about DK not being fir and proper. He should be looking close to home so he should. His saviour has been investigated by the Irish Government several times, so he has. but I don't care about that and I don't go onto to their websites to tell them about it, neither!

04 Mar 2015 19:15:33
I am sitting here greetin ma eyes out. Don't rally know why.
Played on the supporters buses in Helen St for the Moscow Dynamo game (Tory pointed out they had 12 men on the park at one time)and witnessed W.W. 'headin' the Stirling Albion centre.
But never thought King could take on Ashley and actually see him off. The 308th richest Business man in the world.
Most posters don't seem to appreciate just what that has taken (and I am sure he knows how much we have all helped much to our credit).
Main thing now is to get together, have patience and gie the man a brek. He has earned our eternal gratitude warts and all.

04 Mar 2015 19:43:07
Correct, any septik fan should remember their own history before attacking our club, anyway I support you George 100%, the septik fans who come on here ranting about our people do not care about football, they are deeply ensconced in hate of a different kind, and there is no getting away from that fact, we have crackpots on our own side, these people couldn't care less about the game, its deep rooted and will always be a problem in this country as long as there are separate schools, this is a fact

04 Mar 2015 21:16:00
Brilliant post Salen, I missed these events by about 5-10 years, but they are imprinted in my brain by all the stories that my auld man and his mates told. In particular big Willie Woodburn's sending off against Stirling Albion as his lament was one of their party pieces at the new year. You have brought a tear to my eye, great memories so thank you.

04 Mar 2015 21:17:02
George, u r an inspiration, I have never doubted Dave King, nor his freinds, and I've followed ure posts with interest for a cupola yes, I am like you, Rangers mean the world to me, I read people on here who are obviously not gets fans, who decry everything our own folk try to do, who call them selves names which suggest they're not interested, and some who don't hide their hate, who can't stay away, I swear I have never seen another clubs website, I don't see the point, hate can be the only reason for that, Mr King and his friends have my wholehearted support after following Rangers for Nearly 50 yes, from walking down fae maryhill to the yorkhill ferry, and getting flung over the turnstiles, god bless you Dave King, and u George, And, both Bills and Jr and rb, and all the Bluenoses who have prayed every night for our club to win, rant over Ed

04 Mar 2015 22:02:46
What a great post that I -00% agree with. This is the start of a new era that is long overdue. It has been a painful good few years and I will admit I had some doubts whether we would make it back! I literally refresh Rangers rumours feeds, RSS feeds every 5 minutes at work, at home and even in bed it drives my fiancé crazy! All I want to hear is something good something that gives hope. Everytime I have got my hopes up they had been dashed just as quickly but this changed when I read that king had bought shares as well as the 3 bears. That's the day I stopped being cynical and knew it was a matter of time. Now the time is upon us I could burst with emotion.

WATP

04 Mar 2015 22:05:15
Salen I really worry for you if you think King has beaten Ashley or indeed has any chance of ever beating Ashley. Ashley is in full control.

What is King's doing now? The votes are in and now King tells us he is going to stay in the background. What else hasn't he told us?

04 Mar 2015 22:48:32
Well put I am George you know more than most how this mob work and they have done the whole "great stadium robbery" by the book! Once the game is up on Friday that's when the real work begins, and I agree with some of the other replies about giving Kingco time and we must support them and be very patient as there will be paper trails going halfway round the world trying to cover there asses, but one thing for sure Kingco are nobodies mugs either and they will prevail with the help and support of the fans and the wider Rangers high rollers

Roll on Friday!!

RR

05 Mar 2015 05:34:13
The fat lady (or MA in this case) has not started singing. I am wary of what may be in the background. Ashley is not used to losing. I may (and hope) i'm wrong

05 Mar 2015 09:29:58
Blind hope, perhaps. This game is not over.

05 Mar 2015 11:22:48
ABHABH
King has won a significant battle that none of was sure could be won. You are correct that Ashley can win in the long term should he choose to. The only solution in that case lies with the SFA standing up and banning him from Scottish football.

05 Mar 2015 21:21:09
salen I am quite certain king will not be greatly bothered if he can't be chairman or a director he has an able deputies in paul murray and especially john gilligan whether he is on the board or not he can still dictate how things are run

04 Mar 2015 17:06:37
Swiss lad Mbuba played half a game for u 20s but that is about it for the loan players.

04 Mar 2015 21:20:17
gkk yer right the bandy an port makes me euphoric hic

04 Mar 2015 15:41:43
The long road back starts here and I am excited about the challenge, have often wondered if we would even start to get to to grips with the problems, so am happy that we are now able to do so.

04 Mar 2015 16:14:57
Its going to be a lot of work for them but this is the way I see things transpiring.

1. King gets in on Friday as anticipated.

2. They appoint further board members straight away to dilute Ashley's members voting power (a representative or two of the three bears - but not them personally) AIM would see this as two parties working directly together which isn't allowed as they would have to make a buy out offer to the rest of the shareholders for the club.

3. They appoint Felix Magath as interim manager until the end of the season and then move him to back of house (Technical Director).

4. They start a forensic audit of all contracts.

5. Put finance into place.

They will have all of these contingencies thought out and ready for implementation from the get go. They won't be coming into this blind.

04 Mar 2015 16:31:55
SHARES SUSPENDED

04 Mar 2015 17:06:36
I could be wrong but I believe that Magath has shares in about a dozen clubs which he believes are good investments. I don't see a role for him at I roc.

04 Mar 2015 21:33:22
Dont see why a member of the bears couldn't be on the board as surly aim would have had something to say about Ashley's croanies. They were blatantly in cahoots. Was this issue not that they have to act independently until the board situation was resolved as to not influencethe vote/make it look like some sort of hostile takeover ( not that it wasn't lol)

04 Mar 2015 15:19:55
All's quiet on the western front, haven't heard a thing today regarding the power battle which of course is one of the most crucial periods in our history, I don't know if hearing nowt today is a good thing or a bad thing?What do you think ed?What do you reckon is going to happen on friday or possibly before friday mate?It's a worrying time for all us teddy bears!

{Ed039's Note - I dont think anything is going to happen between now and Friday. I actually think that Sports Direct will refuse the second tranche of £5m if anything)

04 mar 2015 16:28:42
wrong mate ---look at sky news ---sorry

04 Mar 2015 16:08:26
Ed

Being that Lame and Lamer are servants of Ashley surely they must be in communication with him and as such they would I feel be unlikely to request the 5 million if there was any chance of it being refused?

My personal view on this it is more or less a threat by Lame and Lamer to King, the message being give us our 290k contract payoff or think how much we can 'spend' or 'utilise' of the 5 million drawdown. In fact I am sure they would be likely to invoice Rangers for the equivalent of the 290k to cover the money they feel they are due.

This is a ransom demand in effect.

Personally I think it is a stalling tactic to allow them 36 more hours of 'appropriating' funds from Rangers bank via invoices for consultations and services rendered as per Whyte and Green's methods for the last 3 years.

Expect a black hole in the accounts and Bank balance come Friday

i am george

04 Mar 2015 16:09:23
I don't think we will hear anything as information now coming from both sides will be power given away.

I recon the EGM will go ahead and as anticipated King will win. The Ashley camp at this moment are trying to scare shareholders through lack of finance and expulsion from the AIM into changing their vote. This is why Llambias mentioned in his statement to the stock exchange, that people could turn up in person and vote which would nullify their already submitted proxy.

04 Mar 2015 16:22:42
Enlighten me here ed, if as you say sports direct do refuse the 2nd 5million quid tranche what does this mean and how bad does this effect king's power battle ie.what consequences?

{Ed039's Note - It has no effect on King whatsoever, he probably doesnt want it anyway, however SD would be able to drag Rangers name through the mud, there is a massive game being played here and not being from that line of work I dont know what the benefits of it would be, its just a hunch is all)

04 Mar 2015 17:54:31
Ed I think it's more that rangers could drag sd name through the mud, I even think we have done a lot of damage to the sd brand already

04 Mar 2015 12:02:04
Just to start the Manager debate. I would like to see Ian cathro with Neil McCann as his no.2 . I think McCann is pretty decent and certainly spoke well at the fernando tribute match. Again this is just my opinion, would be interesting to see someone else mentioned apart from the usual suspects. Billy Davies, McCall, Butcher etc.

04 Mar 2015 12:33:07
Steve McLaren? Great manager, anyway does anyone have a clue as to what lamass is up to?

04 Mar 2015 12:38:12
Coisty09 couldn't agree more think we need a new young talented coach/manager combination for the future and not to look to 'the old guard ' for a short term fix

04 Mar 2015 12:51:38
Coisty 09, that's a good shout mate as I myself many times on here have stated that ian cathro would be a very good choice regarding what we need as the next rangers manager/head coach and I would also agree that neil mccann should have a position at rangers whether it be as a no.2, first team coach or part of a scouting network etc, if cathro was to be appointed our next manager/head coach I would honestly think felix magath should be appointed our technical director to oversee the full running of our murray park youth academy and in my opinion the magath, cathro partnership would be perfect as you have the good young upcoming coach in cathro with the experience of magath alongside him

04 Mar 2015 13:19:06
I would like to see Davie Weir and Neil Mcann take over.

04 Mar 2015 13:35:33
good shout, would be happy with that, or possibly 2nd choice, for a fee, probably, I would be quite happy with mcleish and rae. don't really fancy the names of the other usual suspects that's being banded!!

04 Mar 2015 13:43:21
How long do you think it would take McLaren to start speaking in a broad glaswegian accent. I know he was fluent in dutch :-D

04 Mar 2015 16:28:35
How about Paul Hartley? He seems to be doing an OK job at Dundee with limited resources but he'll easily keep them in the SPL next season. And if West Ham get rid of big Sam Allardice, how about him? He wouldn't stand any nonsense! As for the others mentioned before, I'm not sure about Davies or McCall but like the sound of Davie Weir and Neil McCann in some capacity.

04 Mar 2015 16:29:55
The good thing about cathro is he is young & has built a fantastic reputation in a short time but also admitted he would leave valencia if the right job for his progression came about. I like the guy & I also think Neil McCann is building a good name for himself as a coach also. cathro is young enough to spend a few years and oversee a project of his own making & I agree with Magath, he is keen to get involved and would surely use his knowledge/contacts of the German league to our benefit. just don't want him over influencing things. So yeah, Cathro, McCann & McGath would be my preferable lineup.

04 Mar 2015 16:39:15
doiger paul hartley are you some kind of nut think you are trying to wynd us up or maybe you really believe what you say pathetic to say the least

04 Mar 2015 17:23:33
zodiac. Why so negative about Hartley. He's done a damn lot better than our pathetic managers in the Championship. They are comfortably mid-table and by all accounts play decent football. The Allardice suggestion was tongue in cheek. So given your nom de plume perhaps you can inspire us all with a prediction?

04 Mar 2015 17:26:58
doiger I uptill now was quite sane

04 Mar 2015 17:31:17
Coisty09

I agree IF Magath is in place as Tech Director I think Cathro is the perfect fit for Rangers if you read Kings remit: able to build from youth up a long term plan

McCann I do not know and tbh I think most managers like to choose their own 'team' as part of the management thing is a team with same goals and coaching beliefs so McCann may be not in the same mindset as a Europhile coach like Cathro.

i am george

04 Mar 2015 18:35:14
BB) Agree would love to see Neil Mccann involved somewhere in the new set up i'm not for bringing in ex Gers men as manager but I do believe Neil could do a great job at coaching level with a view manager a few years down the line.

04 Mar 2015 20:41:13
Hartley hates Rangers, end of the story, he is probabably half decent, but his heart doesn't live at Ibrox, don't give me any shxxe about not needing to be a gers man, I know that, but do we really want a guy who took great pleasure in beating Rangers as our manager? Allardice isn't as silly a suggestion, we need to win this thing first,

04 Mar 2015 22:24:06
doiger look into hartley's background then ask yourself would any rangers fan want him as manager no no no sorry mate don't give predictions but as I have said before not an ex rangers player they are all tarred with the same stick

04 Mar 2015 11:36:32
I was reading in various newspapers this morning that if king, murray & gilligan do win and sweep to power on friday they are going to take time in identifying & appointing the next rangers manager/head coach which I totally understand as this appointment is the most crucial in our history given what state we're in and the work its going to take to totally rebuild the football side of things, that said we MUST get a manager in temporary to replace mcdowall or we WON'T get up through the play offs, I agree we have to thoroughly sift through all managers out there to make sure we get the best man available, in the meantime get a manager in NOW until the end of the season with fresh ideas and tactics to squeeze the best out of the players currently at rangers

04 Mar 2015 12:16:27
its essential we get someone even on a temporary basis I would have thought with amount of time the takeover has been runningthey would surely have someone in mind if not there has not been much forward planning which would dissapoint me

04 Mar 2015 12:37:00
Alan curbishley is unemployed I think at no, big eck may come home long term,

04 Mar 2015 15:52:24
Any manager worth their salt would not come in on an interim basis for less than megabucks. I feel that bringing in maggots as manger to assess the playing staff and the then moving to back of house after the end of the season would be the best bet. McInnes for manager at the beginning of 2015/16 season. He's proven and is ready to take the next step up in his career.

And before anyone disputes the step up. that was meant as in club side thing rather than actual step up from Aberdeen. At the moment they are far better than we are football wise.

04 Mar 2015 18:03:19
Alrus, only a better club football wise? Believe they have made a very healthy profit, a club run within their means, play by the association rules and are looking to be moving forward in all respects!

{Ed039's Note - Didnt they just need a sugar daddy to write off their debt? Can you also let me know what association rules have been broken?)

04 Mar 2015 08:22:10
Now starts the first trawl of the negative posters regarding King and how Ashley holds the upper hand. we all know this, we are aware that Ashley; Llambias and Leach care not one jot about Rangers, this is why we The Rangers Fans want King and The Three Bears to work together to remove this filth from Ibrox. I do not care what Ashely is now doing, or has done or will do. If that is his style then bring it on.
Do not know if anyone out there remembers the film It's a Wonderful Life, with James Stewart - it was my dad's favourite film. Well in the film there is an evil landlord - who so reminds me of Ashley and Llambias. However, when the chips were down family and friends rallied round to help Stewart - well that is what we are now doing rallying round to support The Famous Glasgow Rangers - the biggest supported club in Scotland.

Remember >

THE BLUEBELLS ARE BLUE!!!!

04 Mar 2015 09:17:07
Delusion is hardly going to save us.

King is a drug, a tempting, seductive drug, but not reality.

Ashley is a ruthless successful businessman, he didn't get that way by being beaten by manipulating convicts trying to whip up fan emotions.

I'm not your enemy here, even though you and George treat me as such.

04 Mar 2015 09:59:16
I would say they are all successful king & co and ashley, ashley may have deeper pockets the difference being king & co want to invest all ashley wants to do is give loans so you have to ask if he has an interest in the club why loans? why not invest?
r.f

04 Mar 2015 10:20:38
Blue bells aren't blue?

04 Mar 2015 10:27:20
Royal Blue it is nothing to do with positive or negative it is about being pragmatic and realistic. Two things a good number of Rangers fans have avoided like the plague for the past few years. And your It's A Wonderful Life comparison is just daft, where were all the Rangers equivalent to the Bedford Falls town folk when admin hit? Where were they when Charles Green said he'd sell up for £11m? Why didn't any of these folk come in when the shares were as low as 18.5p? By all means indulge in a fantasy but don't try and rewrite history.

Gaz I

04 Mar 2015 11:09:50
Disinterested?

Newcastle own Ashley £150 million = might be successful for Ashley, but definitely not for Newcastle.

Gaz?

I am not trying to rewrite history I am and fellow bears are trying to right Rangers, nothing else. I am as pragmatic as the next man, but a con is a con, and that is what Ashley is doing.
Rangers have had their problems they do not need to be made worse by Ashley.
Rangers, in my perception, were unfortunate that during their demise when they were trying to be sold off, the world was in a major recession, people and businesses were tightening their belts not buying into high end risks like Rangers.
And, and this is a big and, The blue Knights tried to buy Rangers but Duff & Phelps opted to go with Greene, which is being investigated by Police Scotland.
SO you go off and be pragmatic and negative and vote for ashley if you have shares.
I will go with my cup half full and King and Co

The BLUEBELLS will ALWAYS be BLUE!

04 Mar 2015 11:39:13
Here we go again, another saviour, king is shrewd, and called it right with liquidation originally, but is he & the 3bears really going to throw £10-20m at the club for the next couple of years without seeing it again, especially as they are not sole owners but just major share holders.
The 1st thing they will do is try plug the gaping hole in the finances, then a share issue to raise capital.
There seems to be some delusion that another saviour, with wealth off the planet has arrived, and all money problems have ended. It is just the beginning again!

04 Mar 2015 11:54:20
Another poster who does not have a clue about Rangers fans.

We are aware that untold wealth will not be thrown at Rangers;
We are aware that a rebuilding process will have to take place;
We are aware that a shares issue(s) may have to take place;
We are aware that it may take three or four years;

But, and this is a big BUT > We ARE The Famous Glasgow Rangers.

and make no mistake that we will be back, supported by a board that is Rangers minded and Rangers supporters, not fly by night, shisters who are in it for the money.

04 Mar 2015 12:21:50
Rf. I've seen a big change in your attitude regarding mr king and our club, have you finally seen the light?

04 Mar 2015 12:37:30
More importantly why didn't you buy the shares when David Murray was having his share issue and you could have stopped all that has happened since, the reality is you have had more opportunities to buy into your club than any other club and never bothered your arse and were quite happy to let Murray pick up the tab, now it's everyone else's fault, the sfa, the Celtic board, Scottish clubs . The same sfa and sfl who broke their own rules to let you into the third division unchallenged, the same Celtic board who stood bye silently and let you claim to be the same club when their own fans wanted you ridiculed for it, the same Scottish fans who could have quite rightly boycotted your clubs games after the state you got their clubs into while they tried to keep up with you while you were spending money you didn't have? Like the wee lassie who is sitting in the corner greetin no one like her because their jealous of her, the reality is no one likes her because she is spoiled and treats everyone else with contempt.

04 Mar 2015 12:54:15
Edward 123 I just wanted someone to come and rescue our club mate and must admit was blinded by ashley's wealth let's just say "I once was blind but now I see"
the board is dead, long live the king.
r.f

04 Mar 2015 13:46:07
Royal Blue I completely agree on the blue knights being stitched up by D&P, an appointment I queried in here the day it happened. That isn't what I was talking about. I said £11m, the amount Green said he would take (ie double the investment) on the day Walter Smith's consortium came riding over the hill. And I don't know where you got the idea I support Ashley, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, which isn't far, all I said was Rangers "good guys" did not come out in their masses earlier and that being pragmatic means you have to be prepared for the reality that Ashley is a powerful man and most likely has a sting in the tail here. But "Rangers men" have had several opportunities to get the club away from spivs, please don't tell me otherwise, remember King said he would never buy one share well he did, another of his mendacious lies, arguably.

Gaz I

04 Mar 2015 14:51:07
Gaz1?

HMRC chased away any serious investors.

King was having his own spat with SA HMRC.

So the only investor we had was The Blue Knights.

04 Mar 2015 16:03:59
Gaz I,

Actually it wasn't a lie by King, it was strategic. Its on record that he said to Craig Huston that he would buy shares as a last resort and guess what happened. he did just that!

King would not now be in the position that he is in if he had declared his intention (through main steam media) that he would buy shares. that's why he is a successful business man and I congratulate him and thank him for his efforts.

He also couldn't buy anything to do with Rangers when this originally all happened (2012) because of the litigation case with the SARS.

04 Mar 2015 18:08:39
Rf. cheers mate for your honest reply to my question,

04 Mar 2015 18:40:12
Royal Blue you are still not getting what I mean, I'm talking AFTER Green got control, after HMRC, Smith and Co came in to buy out Green, offering him a slight profit, he said he'd sell up for double his investment (£11m). Given what we know now of the cash burn etc since by spiv after spiv that seems like a sound investment, no?

Fair enough alrus blue I was under the impression that was his final word on it but if you say he said as a last resort he would, then fair play.

Gaz I