Rangers Banter Archive June 04 2013

 

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04 Jun 2013 22:21:37
If league reconstruction takes place we will not be allowed to play trialists ie new signings will need to wait until sept to play (STV). I'm not paranoid but have these new rules been written to further punish rangers? I smell another rat.

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Yes you are paranoid, we've all had a laugh at your expense, quicker you get back the quicker we can all move on, it's boring!

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The guys will just need to play in september. We won't be the only club to suffer from the no trialist rule. Another 29 clubs who come under the sfl bracket will suffer also.

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05 Jun 2013 07:52:18
I think the definition of paranoid is that you interpet the actions of others as if they can only have been undertaken to harm you. Is it not possible that, however difficult it may be to reconcile with the WATP diatribe, the other clubs in scotland have to look after their own interests and the gers are only one piece of the jigsaw they have to consider? that's not to say they're not a bunch of rats! But we've had a fair fewof those at ibrox recently as well, have we not?

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No trialists - but able to sign as many over 21's as we like
swings and roundabouts/

bil72

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Same new rules has no limit on players registered over age of 21, so quite balanced.

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@op totally agree mate
said the same to my the
when I heard it. he agreed
to by the way
billy h

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04 Jun 2013 21:30:19
In the ocean club Ibiza last week lots of football stars. Seen a couple of our players and a couple from the other side livin it large. Lots of English club player there. Spoke to some guys from Southampton looks like lee Wallace is heading there business almost done on it. He just need to agree terms

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If its true and its the premiership then fair play to the guy. I don't think he could possibly turn that down. He would be guaranteed a first team slot aswell as Danny Fox is mince and he would oust him in no time. Hope it's not true.

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Must have a couple of lee wallace's at rangers another post got 1 signed for sheff utd. all these post's cause ally gets some cover in with stevie smith

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Dont talk nonsense, who were these players?. Why would players know who their manager is brining in. I think you have been bamed up my man. I send a screen shot of this to Lee and he called me in a fit of laughter at what utter tosh. He is going nowhere. A Player.

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@3 you identify yourself as A Player. You must be deluded because I sat in the Copland last year and the ones on the park were few and far between. You really need to stop bamming yourself up Ha Ha Ha
A Player your having a laugh

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04 Jun 2013 22:18:45
with all them reported signings, we really need to get the builders in to enlarge Murray Park

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Whatever happened to renaming Murray Park?

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04 Jun 2013 18:33:36
At this rate Rangers will have 4 teams next season going bye all the done deals on here, we are in the 2nd Div and all we need is guys good enough to get us over the line again next season. then step it up for the final first division title. then we will be back,

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Yes, 5 players in and potentially 3 players out certainly leaves us with a massive headache numbers wise

it's not as if we struggled at times last season to fill the team sheet, and those 17 year olds ran riot right enough

/sarcasm

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Maybe a manager with technical ability would be enough in the 2nd div, even more sarcasm!

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04 Jun 2013 17:00:28
TV has obtained a copy of the proposed rules for the new Scottish Professional Football League - the proposed single league body for senior football in the country.

The regulations forbid the use of trialists in any league match across all four divisions or in League Cup matches.

Rangers have completed pre-contract agreements with Cammy Bell, Nicky Clark, Nicky Law, Arnold Peralta and Jon Daly.

They had hoped to field them as trialists under current SFL rules, prior to the club's registration embargo being lifted on September 1. Under the existing regulations, Ally McCoist would be able to field two trialists per game, with each player eligible to feature in a maximum of three fixtures.

Should the vote pass however, the club will only be able to play their future signings in the Challenge Cup, reserve games or in non-competitive matches.

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New rule to be introduced, anyone think timing suggests any particular reasoning behind it?

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It's a beat the signing embargo strategy. If it doesn't work nothing lost lads.

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Oh well just means that the guys will be like a hare out the trap when they are eligible.

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That's kl the useless squad of last season will do for the first 2 mths easy the squad that's being out together the now will challenge for the top title when we get there

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Seems like certain people are still trying to finish of the worlds most succesful football team

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Surely if its 1 body then spl shouldn't have different rules than the other leagues? Meaning we should be allowed to register as many over 21s as the SPL?

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I've read the report and it surprises me in one respect as most other clubs in the SFL use the existing ruling to have a look at potential signings in competitive action before committing to contract.

This ruling launches that safety net out the window.

Having said that I do believe it's just another boot in the cahones for us, hope Mather's adds this to his list if it goes through.

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@4 if you think what your putting together at present will win you the top title when you get there, your deluded.

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Surely if its a new setup then the transfer embargo would be quashed as it would be a difrent tittled league than the one that dished out the punishment

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@6 the new rules have no limit on players registered over 21.

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@8 if you think we would have the same team by that time then YOU are the deluded one kiddo TB

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@9 The SFA dished the punishment, not the SPL.

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N12 cheers for that info mate it was still an illegal transfer though though the sfa might have done away with it now trying to make themself look like a decent bunch lol lol lol

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04 Jun 2013 15:00:29
Celtic fan here but just a transfer suggestion for you.

Mohamadou Sissoko

Out of contract at Kilmarnock.

Giant, quick on the deck and wins everything in the air. Played over here for a few years now so knows the game.

Surely he would do a job for a few seasons and won't take big wages to get him.

Always played well when I saw him. played a blinder against us in Kilmarnock's league cup final win last year.

What do you think?

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Yous can have him.

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Everytime ave seen him play ave no been that impressed tbh. No better or worse than we have. Cheers for the suggestion tho.

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@4 if he's not better than perry or cribari I'll eat my hat because them 2 are stinking.

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04 Jun 2013 14:11:59
How sad, pathetic and embarrassed must the 78 Celtic supporters who wrote to the Advertising Standards Agency feel, they wrote complaining that Rangers were in breach of advertising practices (Misleading Advertising) by claiming to be Scotland's most Successful Club with 54 title wins to date, unfortunately for them the claims made by the R. F. C in these adverts with regards to their history were upheld by the Advertising Standard Agency, no rules had in fact been broken therefore no further action would be taken. In agreement with the Independent Commission initiated by the S. P. L, they found that Rangers were in fact entitled to claim historical titles, that while the Business side of R. F. C was transferred to a new Corporate entity, the existing Football Club is in fact the same Club that was founded in 1872 with all history intact ( don't know which part of that ruling they continually fail to understand), these supporters deserve a wee bit credit (aye that'll be right) for realising that their club has no chance of equalling Rangers history on the field of play, so therefore they have to resort to any other means, surely they have exhausted every avenue available in their attempt to steal our titles, what's next for them, is there such a thing as The Court of Human Rights for desperate delusional madmen, and Celtic supporters.

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How many people have to say we are the same club, its only one particular group who can only dream of being Scotland most successful and supported club that cannot accept it. You know who you are! PB

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Just ignore them Blue, they will try anything to muddy our club. Let them believe what they want, I would say you would be wasting your time trying to educate some of them anyway, blame the schooling.

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Almost as sad as those Rangers fans who marched on an empty Hampden or those who threatened the men whose identity McCoist demanded to know, even though he already knew.

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Blueblaze, how do you know they were all celtic supporters?
and if they are, they are not as sad, as pathetic or as embarrassed as the the rangers board, who are hiding the truth from you mugs. so that walter of the cardigan will sweet talk you into buying season tickets. chairman my arse.

you and your team have no credibility whatsoever until you can produce audited accounts . but hey that would be honest, and expose the mess you are in, and then no one would buy.

as for the most successful team ever I said at the time you would win that one. being a year old with a 67% success rate. yes you are. shammy

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It's more what UEFA and FIFA say after liquidation. It's all just petty arguing until then.

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Mate Celtic fans will never accept Rangers are the same club, its will never happen. For every one of these statements, Celtic have an argument or a ruling that favours there position on the subject. To a businessman looking in from the outside a liquidated football club means its over and common sense would tell them so is its history. Only in the world of scottish football, frightened to death to lose its most succesful (domestically) football club and face the collapse of the game altogether due to dwindling support and interest in the game decide that Rangers could start over, and BUY its history and trophies. The words "bought the history" should never have been muttered, Rangers have the mouthpiece yorkshire pudding to thannk for that, the man couldn't speak for anymore than 3 sentences without talking himself into a corner, contradicted himself, offended another club or courting controversy. The whole thing should have been dealt with better. I understand how this is the same Rangers, you understand how this is the same Rangers but you have to understand for this to be the case there has been a very unusual set of rules been bent to make it so. Same support, same colours, same badge and same stadium is enough for the everyday Rangers fan but surely you understand why an enemy of the club is just not going to buy it and will forever harp back to those events, its part of them being Rangers rivals.

I ask you, shoe on the other foot, would you not be trying to tell them they haven't won a European cup if it was them who had went through the same as Rangers. In fact no need to answer that, its a rhetorical question.

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You can "claim" whatever you want from the dead clubs history? Why not claim some from Gretna or Third Lanark?

There was no takeover / buyout etc when Sevco were formed merely they acquired the assets of the former club.
Hence why The Rangers had to start in division 3!
And any nonsense about it being another company operating the club? Well it's true company's operating clubs change all the time, this in itself doesn't disqualify them from competing in Europe. The Rangers aren't allowed in Europe for atleast 3 years! Why? Because they're a brand new club!

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How sad and pathetic is it to suggest that it was 78 Celtic supporters that complained to the ASA. It's just like saying it was The Rangers fans who complained about NL swearing at St Mirren. It's just saddos with too much time on their hands who start all this nonsense. DH

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The judgement says in future must read

WAS Scotland's most Successful Club

lol - glad you know are same club, now malaga banished from europe the next 3 times they qualify, even if it take 10 years. For not paying salaries. now not paying taxes. ohh. even Green found out you can pay to not be punished, and he did not even do that?

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@7 There was a post on here regarding Derry City. I had a wee read and the Rangers situation is very similar. Derry City are infact the same club and as the poster at the time stated there Euro co-efficient carries forward. As for no Euro football sir, that has to do with accounts and no the story you cling to about a new club.

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Thou rangers had to apply for licence to play again their licence number was never changed same number same club its simple

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Who gives a flying duck what any Celtic fan thinks mate! You never bothered me nor my club on or off the park in 37 years. What makes you think I'm going to start now? I'm sitting on my balcony in Lloret with a. Wee shandy reading up on my team and come across a load of p*sh from a zoomer like you. Nobody is listening to your lot anymore mate. Phil ten names, Alex Thomson, and the BBC, have all been found out for what they are. LNS, ASA, SFA, UEFA, have all put you in your place. We are Rangers, always have been, always will be. And more importantly. better than than all the rest. GIRFUY.
P. O. B.

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@7 the shoe isn't on the other side is it we don't need to defend our history, it is not in question

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@8 it was celtic fans it was on celtic fans twitter pages.
trueblue

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05 Jun 2013 09:09:34
One more point dafty, you cannot liqidise a football club, only a company, the only people who cand end a club are its fans > u Still with me?

We never missed a single game, our fans still turned up and we played at Ibrox, in RANGERS strips? still getting this?, The ASA state we are still the same club, the owners make no difference, that will hurt but the truth often does, now go and think up another wet dream Muppet
TOMMYBLUE

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Anyone actually read/seen the ASA report? No, because it hasn't been released yet. Let's wait and see what it actually says first. At the moment Traynor has issued a statement without seeing the report on the basis that the complaints haven't been upheld - that doesn;t mean there may be some guidance in the paper report on what can or cannot be said.

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@12: UEFA have said nothing about this. Think you're confusing the ECA with UEFA: the former is a body with no power whatsoever.

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Exactly #17.
UEFA have said nothing! Despite being contacted by thousands of Celtic fans. lol.
The same muppets who complained to Glasgow city council about us raising funds for the RFF.
Like I said nobody's listening.
P. O. B.

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@18: how'd you know thousands have contacted UEFA. You have an obsession with blaming everything on Celtic - everything you post on here seeks to bring them into it or accuse the fans of hatred and bile. It's quite obvious you have a great deal of bitterness towards them. You don't seem to know what real hatred and bile is, if you think you read it on here regularly from those you assume are Celtic fans (some are actually Rangers fans) just because you happen to disagree with them.

You need to take a reality check, take off the blinkers and come to terms with the fact that people are allowed to have opinions that differ from yours, even other Rangers fans; those who do have different opinions are not spouting hatred and bile, just because you don't agree; and it's OK to have concerns about the club - it's not disloyal to voice them.

You might find the bigger picture - if you can ever see it - is quite helpful.

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04 Jun 2013 13:52:22
Why all these signings?
We don't need that many for the league we are in.
We are bumping up our outgoings for no purpose.

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We are building a team to advance through the leagues

do you suggest we build a team for SFL2, then next year build an entirely new team for SFL1 and then ship them out again and buy another squad for the SPL?

it's a big picture, not a series of small ones, why can't people understand this

Every other team builds a squad to match their ambitions, be that title contender, mid table finish or hoping to avoid relegation

our ambitions, and more importantly expectations, are quite clearly to get back to the very top, setting us quite clearly apart from every other team bar Celtic

11 SPL clubs started last season with the absolute uppermost expectation to finish 2nd, we're sitting 2 divisions below that right now and we are still the only club who can conceivably get back to challenging for first, simple as that

I'm not trying to take a shot at any of the other teams but the last 3 decades have shown this to be true

The only way we do that is to build a team that matches those ambitions, I'm fully aware that players like Daly and McCulloch etc aren't long term prospects but the experience they bring, coupled with the youth and the younger players being brought in will go a long way to making those ambitions real

That's why all these signings

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EH because you want a young team and one that Gels because they become better together and they add value. We are building for the future. What do you suggest?. Sign nobody and when we get to the SPL we buy a new team?. don't be a muppet. Leave it to the pro's son and have a day off with your financial gripes, youve been out int he sun to long listening to Charlie Green's Hysteria, Rangers are financially sound, see here is the trust. Green settled the Oldco player debt jelavic, Wallace Etc then being the spin doctor he is he broke that down by so many months and then claimed we were losing 1 Million a month, nonsense! What followed this comment was his complaint about the need for Durrant & McDowell he was making out that coaching team and playing staff were hemoraging money, All spin and lies and so many muppets soaked it up. Stop all your paranoia and get your season ticket and back the club you care enough about to be on here to talk about rather than have a moan about. That goes for most of you. WATP not we were the people.

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To be quite blunt about it, I think the signings were made early purely to ensure the sale of season tickets.

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We will buy better players as we move up the leauges players to replace lmc and jd etc any ambitios player looking for euro football will see the way rangers treat there players hero like icon s we won't have problems inticing players to ibrox and a lot of people know it onwards and upwards

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@3 are you suggesting the powers that be are manipulating the fans?
Surely not.
Being serious most of the fans having been stung numerous times will fall for it. The club knows there is little intelligence amongst the support.

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@1 good post mate the nutcases that say just play all the weans and sign 18 to 21 year olds I would love to know who these young stars of the future are. Mcleod, mckay, aird and mitchell are decent with mcleod being the stand out but we need to think about arriving in the spl and competing not getting rode like an old bun with ict, dundee utd and that i'm well chuffed with the signings and the way we are trying to build a decent squad I just hope ally goes mad and plays 2 up front next season. jmgers

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@3 so what! you either buy a ticket or don't buy a ticket freedom of choice. I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT MY TEAM WINNING OR LOSING IN THE SPL OR THIRD DIVISION BECAUSE that's MY CHOICE

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05 Jun 2013 11:01:57
DIX, why do you think any team signs players m8, if not to tempt their fans to buy season tickets?

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04 Jun 2013 12:41:48
ASA official ruling. We are still Scotlands most successful club and can continue to claim so. Sad day for timmys lol

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I said at the time I welcomed the complaints. Thanks to everyone who put pen to paper to the ASA.

A few red faces going round today that have nothing to do with the weather I would think.

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Yes we are the people we've won every battle thrown at us and its 55 and counting

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@2: what about the battle not to go into admin or to be liquidated?

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04 Jun 2013 12:37:02
Ally please leave some players for other teams in the country to sign, it's like going into Aldi with a wedge and buying everything!

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Aldi is bang on. Cheap low quality copies of the real thing.

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N1 I've never shoped at aldi s I notice you seem to have judging your post

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04 Jun 2013 12:10:43
Watching Australia v Japan Word cup qualifier at moment. Matt McKay ( remember him ) playing in midfield and looking very good at this level. Another 1 that never got chance!

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He wouldn't stand a chance in allys team he ain't big enough for the high ball into orbit.

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04 Jun 2013 11:19:31
What does everyone think about the situation at Hearts? And do you think that Salmond will save them again? I mean the Scottish government couldn't care less about us but his beloved Hearts are always saved.

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When did Salmond save them?

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He publicly said he would do everything in his power to save them last time the they somehow managed to raise the cash.

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He's a politician mate, plenty to say but actually do little. He done nothing

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04 Jun 2013 12:37:24
The hearts support raised the money required unlike the deady bears

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Didn't Salmond make the right noises about Rangers when all the troubles started? Anyway, why should politicians save any football club?

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Not interested in Hearts. Let them sort their own mess their own way.

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Chalky go and have a word with yourself will you. Hearts fans raised the money to bail hearts out the last time, they will do the same again.

So putting Rangers fans to shame twice in the space of 6 months.

BTW Alex Salmond is a skelper who would say anything to gain a bit of extra support. Did that comment gain him a few new supporters for independence, aye probably. Think about it, what possibly could he do to help hearts? Other than make a call to hearts fans, nothing.

Oh btw, remember this one.

Prime minister David Cameron "We will do whatever we can to help save the institution that is Rangers Football Club"

What did he do? F*ck all.

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Hope hearts go bust and for that person salmond he's got no chance of independance the mans a clown

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The Hearts PAYE bill willl get paid at the last possible minute. Still 7 days to go, sorry to dissapoint.

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#8 Hope you're right on the second point but why hope Hearts go bust?

In many ways they've suffered under Romanov in similar ways to how we suffered in the later years of Murray & Whyte and Green. I believe they will enter administration and then maybe liquidation but certainly hope I'm wrong.

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@8. Why would you want Hearts to go bust. Makes no sense unless your really small minded. Salmon's a good politician, why don't you relocate to the England so obviously love.

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Stop being so bitter, we were to blame for own downfall. I share your dislike of our first minister, though I doubt if he is a clown. I would say he was a snake charmer. or was that charming snake?

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04 Jun 2013 10:39:01
am I right in saying that we can't sign any more players untill we move some players out, due to the amount of over 21's we can have in the squad? {Ed001's Note - you can sign as many as you want, you just can't register them, so they would be ineligible to play. You just only have a limited number of registrations allowed, those unregistered would have to go out on loan or be let go/sold.}

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04 Jun 2013 10:02:54
Looks like humphrey and wydle won't be coming according to the scottish sun

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Thank god humphreys crap

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Wylde has lots of pace but he couldn't cross the road

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04 Jun 2013 01:36:32
Just read Chris Humphreys is going to Preston instead of Rangers because McCoist and Co are in the states and Humphreys couldn't wait any longer for a deal to be tabled. I know everyone needs a holiday but surely a club our size has summit in place to cover such scenarios.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/404834/Chris-Humphrey-snubs-Rangers-to-join-Preston

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The answer to that would be no.

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Everyone wants to play for the most succesfull club in scotland 55 and counting

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@2: Obviously He doesn't want to play for Rangers if he goes to Preston.

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N3 everybody wants to play for rangers but obviosly rangers don't won't everybody to play for them

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He can't handle the pressure in scotlands number 1 team

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05 Jun 2013 16:50:40
Celtic were not interested in him, you were and got a knockback-fecking priceless

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04 Jun 2013 06:40:23
I'm interested to know how many games in Honduras the poster has actually seen, or is it just Internet clips like EVERYONE else?

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I seen Peralta play at Hampden last year, decent game

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You don't remember any of them.

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The clip on YouTube is actually Orlin peralta and in fact not Arnold, both play for Honduras and both played club football for Vida before Arnold signed for us

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04 Jun 2013 00:08:37
For the first time in a while I am looking at the squad and think they look like they could jell and be a force to be reckoned with.

Young british talent is what we need not over paid players at the end of there careers.

We are starting from the bottom let's work our way up with a good blend of youth and experiance and build for the future so this never happens again.
CorbyGer

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I agree. I think also we should learn not only from the disaster of the CW era but from last seasons' performances. Yes play the youngsters but also blend in some experience with older players. Tactics are crucial and that is AMcC's department, he needs to have learned from last season and one up front for league games is a no no. We know that opponents will be up for their games against us so we need to dvelop a style of play that will see us through the season and a style that can be changed mid game. Let's not be reactive but proactive - take the game to them.

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03 Jun 2013 23:12:49
Back to work tomorrow after a laptop free weekend of sunshine, beer, golf and camping.
Just been catching up on the recent posts (and my question about renewals). It would seem that one of the biggest problems we have is fan division. There really does seems to be a 50/50 split between the 'renew without question' and the 'not without clarity' camps. Got to say, I am surprised that there seem to be no fans saying "I'm unsure".
I've made it clear that I'm all for clarity and honesty before renewal but I'll not pretend that my heart strings haven't been tugged since I saw that STs are now up for renewal. I have spent a large part of tonight in turmoil because ultimately I am a Rangers supporter and my ST is important to me. I love being a ST holder at Ibrox and I'm proud of that. That's why not clicking that 'renew now' button is such a difficult thing to do and why I feel the club should care that there are fans who are going against their every instinct because they have lost trust in those running our club. I also resent other supporters who are choosing to renew referring to themselves as 'TRUE' supporters. I respect the fact that these people have their own decisions to make but make no mistake, choosing to renew is a far easier decision than choosing not to. I believe I am doing what is right for the long term future of my club, but it goes against everything my heart is telling me.
Regardless if you're 'renew' or 'not renew' I think we all want the same thing. In an ideal world the chancers would all leave and Walter would be the figurehead for a fan owned Rangers who rise through the divisions back to the top of the Scottish game. Ally would learn from his mistakes and go on to become as great a Rangers manager as he was a player. Our club would grow from strength to strength on the back of a world renowned scouting network and producing fine young players. Good luck to us all in our separate missions to get to the same goal, but please afford some of us the respect to make our own decisions without having to justify ourselves as 'true fans'. We are not doom and gloom mongers, we are realists who feel we are having to make tough decisions to save our club.

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Are you a rangers supporter or a charles green or a craig white supporter, its your money put it it where you want

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Baybear anything you do will make no odds to this, just do it and wait and see that's all we can do, wait and see
leave it to another time that's what i, ll be doing Buy and wait and see

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Best I can advise Baybear is get your ST. It's going to be enjoyable and much better than last season. As the boys with the barrows used to shout outside the ground "Support your team and wear their colours". You would miss it too much anyway.
wee willie

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03 Jun 2013 22:28:16
mathers statement on SPL2
http://www.teamtalk.com/scottish-premier/8755379/Rangers-not-approached-about-being-part-of-SPL2-plans. WE ARE NOT INTERESTED. This mans listening to the fans

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Mather's only saying what you want to hear, he needs to sell S/Tkts to support the influx of top notch footballers Ally's signing. It's not rocket science!

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Guess he won't be interested next year either.

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Is he really listening to the fans? He' s saying all the things Green said before he left with a load of dosh. Who's he going to strike when the times right and how? Oh that's right its coming to me now,, absolutely no one. Before you say that I'm not a Rangers fan, your wrong. It's the same old format that White, then Green and now Mather is using. I bet we don't hear anything further from him until he makes excuses and leaves. What happened to the anger at not getting the truth. Nothings changed in my book and we should take control through the supporters trust.

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Did mr methers not put a million buying shares at going rate I think all will be well but we will just have to wait and see in walter we trust

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03 Jun 2013 22:27:37
Why not go for David Goodwillie?! We can pay the same as Hearts and Dundee utd etc. Coisty likes him as we know, or can we not make loan signings? (And I get the lower div bull aswell before you all start)

Fair shout?

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Had his chance. that boat has sailed.

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@1: how has he 'had his chance'? He didn't choose not to sign: United kept turning down the offers so not really his fault if Rangers wouldn't pay what Blackburn would.

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03 Jun 2013 22:18:13
There is no problems with RFC finances.

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Keep saying that I've and over, maybe it will come true.

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Lol just checking its not April first.

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03 Jun 2013 22:00:39
Surely we would have a chance with David goodwillie
With the likes of Aberdeen hearts & Dundee utd in for him would make a cracking loan player.

Bluffer

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Er, let's not.

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03 Jun 2013 20:08:54
what do my fellow bears think about asa. did any 1 read there report
trueblue

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