Rangers Banter Archive July 04 2013

 

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04 Jul 2013 19:37:15
Not been on the site for a while and just looking back at some of the posts over last couple of days. I'm sick of people slagging off Kyle Hutton. The guy is a good player and held the midfield together at times. Ok he's never going to score us goals from midfield but with the right player along side him ie a creative midfielder I think he would do a great job.

Double D

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Needs a midfielder with drive to play alongside him. Him and black are too similar and won't work as a partnership. Really could do with getting rid of either

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Hutton is like a troll on a football field speed of a sloth strength of a oap and touch of a lampost he's UTTER DUMP

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Sorry mate but you are wrong he's rotten if he spent as much time training as he does on his posing and fake tan then maybe he would be a player.

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The worse midfielder to wear a rangers top in the last 20 year, wouldn't get a game at my local juniors team! Awful awful player

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Aye ok Kyle

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So 4) he's worse than nuno capucho? Get a hold of yourself. He's not half as bad as folk make out.

Jprfc

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Kyle Hutton is the laziest footballer I have ever seen in a Blue Shirt. He is like watching Kevin Thompson in slow motion.

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The games I was at this season, which was most, Hutton tracked back and harried opponents to break up the play. Yes, he's not great going forward but that doesn't mean he's lazy. Doesn't play we'll with Black but alongside McLeod the two looked good. Would get rid of Black before Hutton.

Parky

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Yeah he was as bad as capucho, he had 36 caps for Portugal by the way! Hutton can't pass the ball 10 yards or kick the ball in a straight line, I also think I was being kind saying the last 20 years it could have been ever!

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@9 who cares how many caps for Portugal he was shocking for rangers and made a small fortune being bad.

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Doesn't matter how many caps he had for Portugal he was the rankest footballer I have ever watch play for rangers.

Jprfc

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Nah guys need to completely disagree Hutton was a thousand times worse that capucho, he was old and lost pace, Hutton is just murder and get any caps for a poor Scotland team!

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Always have to laugh when people talk about the worst ever players for the club. For me the worst player taking into consideration his huge transfer fee was Bert Konterman however his strike against Celtic in the league cup was probably the sweetest strike I have ever seen at Hampden

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Are you laughing at yourself then? That's a crazy comment to make!

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Sweetest strike at Hampden? Eh, Zidane??

Parky

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04 Jul 2013 18:27:42
My team being a 4-4-1-1.

Bell

Foster CB CB Wallace


Little Law Macleod Temps

Daly

Clark

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Op your 4 4 1 1 only equals ten and when I look at your selection there are only nine players I don't imagine your trying to give the other team a wee starty

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@1) what post are you reading?

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@1. Is it just me or are you daft. Tactics always add up to 10 eg. 442, 451, 433. All 10. The goalkeeper is never added as he is the only player in a set position and no team would play without one.

As for only having 9 players in the line up the original post clearly has 2x CB indicating unknown players

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Fill in the blanks easy its Jig & Gasparotto. Then if they were injured its Faure & Cribari because let's face it I can't see us getting rid of them. Surely we can still win games in the 2nd division even they were at the back although we will leak goals.

Larky Bear

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04 Jul 2013 17:31:06
Anybody know how to get a ticket for the albion rovers cup game?

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Yes mate, ticket office.

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04 Jul 2013 14:19:35
See we've taken Belil Mohsni on trial.

Read about him he's a nut job with a liking for trains.

On the good side West Ham were having a serious look at him last summer appears to be a very good versatile player.

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Is he not a Celtic reject?

Paddy Malarkey

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When did he play for celtic? was it not a trial

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Celtic reject?

Because Celtic were rumoured to be taking a look at him?

Yawn. run along.

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04 Jul 2013 14:13:56
When will Arnold Peralta be joining his new team mates at Rangers?

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Yep the media and fans build them up and they always get knocked down examples = fleck
stevie smith, maurice ross, chris burke, the list is endess

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04 Jul 2013 16:47:36
Sick hearing about wilson etc, they where expected too be the new boy wonder. remember fleck?talked up about being a star, prob his big head and mouth that's ruined a once promising career. stevo

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04 Jul 2013 15:59:13
The main problem at ibrox is ally, he can't manage, we had a chance to build up a bank balance but ally just wants to spend, spend and spend more, did queen of the south need this quality of player to win the 2nd division by miles? Ally is useless and knows he will never get a job that pays this good again.

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He admitted it in his interview that he needs to spend money. Implied that fans wouldn't accept any other way.

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Op qots had been playing together as a team for a one or more seasons before they walked this league

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@ No. 1

He also said he was more concerned with saving his job than the long-term stability of the Club.

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Twisting it a bit there #3. When did ally say he didn't care about the long term stability? didn't he say he had to spend to keep his job - bit of honest imo.

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Can rangers afford to not get promoted?

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@3 he actually said that did he? I don't care about the clubs future so long as I get a wage. Actually said that?

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@4 & 6

Listen to it again. Traynor asked Ally if he was worried about long-term stability by signing so many new players when costs needed to be cut. Ally replied that he also had to worry about getting results otherwise he would be out of a job. As many others have pointed out, you don't need to spend a lot of money on wages in the lower leagues if you can spot up-and-coming talent, coach the best out of them and use them tactically in the most effective way. Like Allan Johnston did at QoS last year, in fact. Ally has gone down the lazy (and expensive) route. Again.

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So #7 what you are saying is mccoist didn't say he doesn't care about our long term stability?

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@8. Exactly. The post @7 is making out that ally also cares about getting results, which if he doesn't he gets sacked. Not quite the same as caring more about his position.

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@ 8

I didn't say Ally wasn't concerned with long-term stability, I said he was more concerned with short-term results and keeping himself in a job. Read my post again - I can type more slowly in future, if it helps.

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@10. I think any and every manager has to be concerned about short term results. Anyone who has followed rangers for more than half a season will know what happens to a rangers manager if he loses a couple of games. Heaven forbid a few old firm ties. wasn't that long ago Walter was being ripped to shreds from. many rangers fans after we got beat by Celtic at new year then got a hiding at their place. And we were te current champions then and still in Europe! I think ally has a right to look after the short term.

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04 Jul 2013 14:51:56
What's the big deal about Berra joining, pure rubbish imo, total waste of money, every time he played for Scotland he was the worst defender, the only time he hasn't played was when Scotland beat Croatia, the guy is gash.

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Agreed he is very poor

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04 Jul 2013 14:21:34
Rangers have bilel moshni on trial. He's a cb but can play up front or on the wing. Recently released from Southend.

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CB that plays on the wing? Sounds like the sort of player ally likes.

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That just does not sound right! Plays CB, or up front or the wing?

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He's a centre back, winger, and a striker?. Must be the most versatile player in world football. Ally get the cheque book out. DH

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If Ally sees us being 'an Ajax' then we really need to concentrate on bringing more of our own promising young players through like Ajax have been dong for decades not signing Southend rejects.

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04 Jul 2013 14:18:40
Rangers have taken former Southend United's French/tunisian centre half bilel mohsni on trial as they've lost out to Leicester City in their attempts to sign Christophe berra, mohsni has a terrible disciplinary record

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Berra, Leicester City, again sources for this.

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04 Jul 2013 13:17:19
Huawei has signed a seven-figure deal with Glasgow Rangers Football Club to provide its Ibrox stadium with a Wi-Fi network.

A good service to provide for the club to provide for the fans and maybe a potential long term shirt sponsor starting 2014/15 season?

JG

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Haha wonder where they got that idea lol

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It means Ally can text Walter when things aren't going right instead of looking up to the stand like a lost wee boy. DH

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Mmm - must be so fans in Newcastle can shout 'Huawei the Gers' - sorry!

JF

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FIrstly, if Ima a footbll match why do I need wifi? Secondly, aren't Huawei a Chinese army company?

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Shirt sponsor? Is blackthorn 1 year deal?

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@1 Liverpool? Man City?

Arpril 2013: One month after Liverpool Football Club became the first top-tier British club to roll-out WiFi in its stadium, Manchester City has announced it too is to roll out a state of the art WiFi system.

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@1 hate to burst yer bubble but this is from the same article in an IT magazine

''The technology vendor said stadium Wi-Fi has been under discussion at the Scottish club for a number of years, with fans frustrated by 3G mobile network download speeds''.

JG

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@5 - yes

JG

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But it is Rangers that are paying the seven figure sum!

Gerry

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04 Jul 2013 11:33:14
Great news about the lad Jamie Hamill signing. His dad says 'Rangers treated the family brilliantly, far better than English Clubs, and their facilities are far better too and he is delighted to sign'. The boy was at Stoke but choose to leave as he never enjoyed his football there. * Source local Leicestershire paper, boy is from a small village called Allexton in Leicestershire.

Gasparrotta's dad said similar things about Rangers compared to English clubs when h signed, its good to know we are local after youngsters properly, and their families too. That is the Rangers way. Well done youth set up.

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Op ime pretty sure fraser airds dad said much the same

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04 Jul 2013 10:44:45
Here's a way to save money on centre backs.

Bell

Foster, mcculloch, Daly, smith

Temps, Macleod, law, Wallace

Clark, little.

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What happens when injuries and suspensions kick in?

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Op if you watch ally's interview it is clear Daly has been bought to play up front. get gasparotto in there with Jig and let's go back to the "we will score one more than you" approach for next season

JG

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What about Gasporotto I would rather play him at the back than 2 forwards

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Why do we need Daly upfront? Clark AMD little scored over 70 goals between them last season.

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Need a little bit of pace at centre half had to be one or the other tbh.

Jprfc

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04 Jul 2013 09:57:08
Genuine question, in the interview ally say that the 5 year plan is to get successive promotions to the top league (fair enough) and to qualify for champ league. Unless Celtic keep on getting to the last 16 every season (unlikely) giving Scotland two champ spots I can't see rangers winning the league in that 5 year time frame. We won't know until dec. for sure but if the club is loosing £1m per month or even if its less no bank is going to give rangers any credit to buy the caliber of player needed to overtake Celtic. With a few more additions the team is strong enough to win 2 or 3 cups but I would say a title win realistically is probably a 6-8 year target. Thoughts?

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So if a bank won't entertain us
after 5years so we can challenge
celtic why would it entertain us
after 6-8 years?

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Given the alleged finance (lack?) problems at the club, could they be possibly stockpiling players in the knowledge that another insolvency situation would bring another transfer embargo?

Paddy Malarkey

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He did not say they would win the league by then, he just hoped they would be back in the champs league. Maybe there will not be a place for the league runners' up, but there is at present, and that is what he is going on.

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No1. If they targeted 6-8 years then they would have had a couple of years with a Europa league run, and if they're good runs it will provide extra cash to get better players and more importantly for the players already at the club it will give theore experience against better players making they themselves better players.

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That sounds like a good idea, borrow money to chase celtic, where did I hear that before?

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N2 alleged financial problems the prime word being alleged

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Lets get this straight, if celtic wernt sponsered by 3 rich irishmen, they could quite easily be in the same boat as us, just my opinion

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Ure so wrong Celtic spend what they make it only rangers that think u need sugar daddy's to compete fairly. James

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05 Jul 2013 13:48:27
@7 Your inference is that we're in this situation because we don't have a rich sponsor? don't be daft. The problem was that our "rich sponsor" SDM recklessly borrowed money he couldn't repay. Same as hearts "rich sponsor" did. Same as gretna. Clubs without "rich sponsors" generally live within their means.

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@8 very true! The suga daddy mentality is an absolute joke! I blame the welfare state for that, to many people living on their knees following this new football club!

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04 Jul 2013 08:31:45
Youtube interview between McCoist and Traynor - sadly 2 mins too long as they make open threats to people. a day of reckoning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmFtPE2_9V4

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Good God! There will be a day of reckoning?! Pardon?! For what? It's a football club ferchrissakes! And that came from a supposed Airdrie United fan. Aye right! And Ally says it will be handled with class. All I can say is, oh dear.

LLSTMF.

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Hardly a threat he's just stating that Rangers will get back to where they belong & the people who kicked us while we were down will end up with egg on there face. Why is anything Ally says took the wrong way.

Larky Bear

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Traynor ruined what was a good, tough interview at the end with his petty paranoia. We get enough of that pish from internet trolls, we don't need it from people who are official club spokesmen. "We know who you are. "

I thought Ally handled it very well, insisting that we stay classy even when we're victorious.

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FFS handle it with class, they two should be out the door.

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Ally said in his interview anything said about season tickets could be taken the wrong way, "there will be a day of reckoning", could they mean in a football sense? ffs get a grip. PB

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Both are on the best contracts of their life's and will say anything to keep the person fans onside.

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04 Jul 2013 12:50:57
@2 What exactly do you mean by egg on their face, I don't get it? We get back to top and winning ways, how does that put egg on anyones face? Do you mean something else? Or is this just more empty threat talk? It all sounds like 'wee man syndrome' to me, embarrassing. Expect it from traynor, disappointed when I see my fellow bears monkey it though.

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Baby steps remember, The Rangers still have to get to end of this season in 1st place and the finance books have to be balanced.

so don't get ahead of yourselves by stating when The Rangers areback on top, this is a marathon not a sprint and realistically if The Rangers are to be back on top in SPL they will have to look at a 10 year plan with some strict and thought out fiscal and financial governence.

Banks are not going to give The Rangers a credit line until they establish they are a fundamental succesful business (season ticket money will not guarentee this) as there are some pricey overheads such as SPL players wages for a SPL2 team, Greedy directors and an extensive expenses scheme to cater for these directors, not to mention, legal fees and troubles related to ownership and the Sandanza fiasco.

all in all its a long road to be were Rangers once were and narrow minded fans looking at being on top within 4 years are deluded

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Class rangers and there support can only claim to have class when they except full responsibility for the pisition their in and drop this revenge for those who kicked us when were down nonsense rangers were down by their own actions no on elses what were you guys wanting sympathy favour a leg up of course not so act with the class you keep going on about and move on without looking for others to blame then you will also gain respect
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Let's be honest here, the vast majority of sensible posters could have sat down and conducted a similar interview as to that conducted by Traynor. The worrying aspect of the whole thing is that just when a few posts are questioning exactly why Traynor is at Ibrox and raking in a substantial wage for what? This interview is about the first time any kind of communication has come from the mouth of this self opinionated clown. If this is supposed to be the kind of information the fans expect then the board really have to look at Traynors role. Perhaps Traynor would like to put himself up for an interview by the Ed himself for example and have him answer some real questions that the fans want answers to.

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Traynors back tacking trying too squim out of stating and printing rangers are gone dead end off, now states was erm a mistake, total shambles. another picking up tens of thousands for bugger all, where was the hard hitting questions from ally regarding where is the cash being generated too pay a huge wage bill, 2nd highest in Scotland for to win div2!wheres the cleansing of the club?still shysters every where inside the club. stevo

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Larky. because when Ally mis-speaks police need to protect families ("who are these people"!).

Who kicked RFC when down (in debt). SDM, Whyte, Green, Imran. Smith (Taking EBT when at everton?? WTF)?

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The day of reckoning will be the teams that kicked us and the questions asked about defenders and fitness were good questions the fans complained about that all last season

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04 Jul 2013 18:21:57
The only good thing about that interview is that it proves traynor reads fan sites like this one because his ego demands that he has to know what we all think about him. Why else would he think the fans needed to hear what he's got to say? His role is Director of Communications, not someone whose opinion is supposed to count, just someone who directs the communications of the club. So now that we know you're reading this traynor let me say this: YOU'RE NOT FOOLING ANYONE YA CLOWN.

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04 Jul 2013 21:16:12
@14 Like your thinking! Since we know Traynor is watching, let's all let him know what we think of him. Mine's one simple word. NUTSACK.

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The hand in glove ALLY and TRAYNOR show is classless. Pre staged to get the "Traynor said its a new club" issue raised and addressed by Traynor, without anyone seeing his face, or eyes. Acting up anger and emotion. Utterly ridiculous play acting stuff. Then of course there's still the evil critics kicking the club. Jabba knows who they are (Internet bampots) and there will be a day of reckoning. Haw haw. Naming critics? In public? Oh dear a threat to name people, trying to use fear as a weapon to shut up critics? Is anyone anymore being fooled by any this cr*p? Are there people out there really so foolish? All the people out there needing answers to important questions and this is the dross being dished up. Lamentable.
Those in Ibrox put the club on the front pages, nobody else. Jabba is keeping it on the front pages with stunts like this. McCoist needs to say NO to any more stunts and just focus on football. That'll get the club off the front pages. Pair of hypocrites.

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05 Jul 2013 13:56:44
Couldn't agree more @16, well said. Transparently orwellian effort keeping traynor in the shadows when in fact the whole thing was entirely about him and his "mistake". @14 I rise to your call. My message to traynor is W#NKRAG.

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04 Jul 2013 08:03:54
everybody is going on about how much we are spending to try and win the div 2 title. maybe ally is thinking if he builds a good squad this year it should be good enough to take div 1 next year aswell, the young boys will also be older and more experenced again, meaning that he won't really have to spend again until were back in top league!

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04 Jul 2013 12:55:12
If only you were right OP, but I think we all know that's just wishful thinking. Mccoist is a spendaholic. Remember Cousin after administration kicked in? Nuff said. He's like a guy with a small p*nis who needs a big car to try to make him look good.

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@2 Totally right he 'grew up' (aye right) in a spend crazy culture to win success he only understands that type of management which scares me. Watch all the young kids will be second choice to his new signings I fear he will miss a great opportunity to blend youth and experience to make a good possible great new rangers team. His tactics and team selection to date show zero managerial ability whatsoever and we won 3rd div despite him rather than due to him. The ONLY saving grace is we have effectively 3 years to 'find him out' due to 3rd division situation. Any previous new manager had no time to build a competitive side as playing in top division and winning against celtic was an essential to avoid the sack. Paul Le Guen being a classic case. Ally will be found out I feel in the next 2 years and I hope his replacement will still have half a season in Div 1 to prepare a new team for SPFL return. IF I am wrong and Ally becomes a good manager I will be happy as it is good for Rangers, my team. waiting in hope. george

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Wrong mcoist will do the job no problem

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04 Jul 2013 21:10:45
Well said @1 and @2. Unfortunately I don't share your hope @2, we'll have more of the same this year but win the 2nd div all the same. The fact we we'll struggle more than QoS did wll be left unquestioned in the MSM and bears will try to make excuses for Ally. Then he will really struggle in div 1. That seriously worries me. Div 1 is a good league with canny managers and skillful teams. It is not an easy league to win. that's when Ally will be found out. Unfortunately so will the clubs reckless gamble on buying up players we can't afford on the risk that we will get promoted every year. If that doesn't happen in div 1 then Ally will have failed us all twice over - once for being a cr*p manager who lies when he says the club must come first because for him his fat ego comes before everything else; twice for gambling with the clubs existence to buy a squad that he thinks can cover that up. I know this because I can read tea leaves so don't tell me i'm being pessimistic, you know in your bones i'm right.

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N4 can them tea leaves give me lottery numbers for tuesdays euro draw I will make it worth your while lol

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04 Jul 2013 07:29:52
Strange to see Niel Doncaster named as he chief executive of the SPFL (voted for internally from the board) from a pool of 2. The guy just watched the SPL fold under his guidance. If you do what you've always done then you'll get what you've always got. Probably lifting around £250k a year as he did in the SPL. Well done

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Surely the member clubs should get a vote to say who runs it?

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Doncaster is liewell toy

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04 Jul 2013 03:28:06
Well the big news is the corrupt neil doncaster is in charge of th SPFL

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The clown should have been chased he's a balloon

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Ide love to know how a guy with a cv like doncasters got the job he has been a failure in most things hees done in life

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03 Jul 2013 22:20:36
BRING BACK NOVO!

Would not cost much money on wages and he can lift the whole team and stadium coming off the bench. Yes he is past it by spl standards but the thing is we are not in the spl (or whatever it will be called) and will not be for at least two years. And he is still more than capable for the second division. He would also be a good influence for the younger players.

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Why not just pay him to wave a big flag at the side of the pitch as that's all you seem to think he has to offer. Too old and would hinder the development of youngsters.

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Hes a true blue and never forget he said thanks but no thanks to oneill

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Op the lower leagues would have suited him years ago but now lower leagues are full of young players trying to impress hoping for bigger clubs to spot and buy them he done his bit first time around let's not spoil the memories

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Geese peace he's had his day major step back if we sign him am pretty sure we won't anyway

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