Rangers Banter Archive December 03 2014

 

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03 Dec 2014 23:22:01
listening to D ferguson on radio given his view on why at 2-o it was game over.
"given the fact Alloa at 6-30 were still waiting on players getting to the ground from work. they will be mentally and physically out on their feet now.
on the other hand the Rangers players will have had lunch and and a wee lie down, before travelling to the ground."
honestly Derek! you forgot to factor in the team going for another wee lie in with 20 mins still to go.

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Why are the experts do surprised with these results - they are not a surprise to the fans!

This is a really bad Rangers team!

How much longer before a change - a complete change - team, management & board!

Boyd wants to be judged at end of season - Law wants critics off back after Saturday result - are they kidding?

McCoist, Durrant & McCulloch all legends but time for change now - before it is too late!

Celtic was damage this team in February worst than Hearts!

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03 Dec 2014 22:24:08
what a complete shambles the players after killie game sayed there confidence was back think they must been kidding there self after that performance mccoist has to go after that wonder if people will still defend him after that

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03 Dec 2014 22:12:16
Embarrassing!!!!wonder if all the guys who were pis@#ng their pants over the result on Sunday will back ally and that bunch of imposter now. your silence is defening

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Sorry mate, couldn't get back to you, I was at the game so what was it you wanted? That was terrible tonight and I would sack every last one of them and play the youths for the rest of the season but I would still go to the games and buy the merch what about you where do you stand?

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Jyf. if that happened I'd buy a season ticket tomorrow!if I under performed at work constantly I'd be sacked. why not them. I admire you and the rest of the fans that witnessed that last night. fair play

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Jyf does that include Mr mccoist when you say sack the lot of them.

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03 Dec 2014 21:53:59
he should'nt wait for the sack he should resign. do the right thing for the club not your self Mr mccoist

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03 Dec 2014 22:30:24
Couldnt understand a word the commentator was saying but could make out the word"gash" every so often, understand exactly what he was talking about now! Any ideas Ally?

The worst Rangers team I've seen in nearly 50 years supporting the club.

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03 Dec 2014 21:49:46
I'v backed mcCoist as everybody knows on this webpage, HE'S GOT TO GO AFTER THAT SHAMBLES TONIGHT! Total joke, embarressing, 2-0 up, conceded 3 goals in the last 15 minutes, we've played alloa 3 times this season, drew 2 lost 1, I'm actually laughing typing this haha, he needs to walk away now! He's lost the players now after watching that, always b a legend in my eyes on his goals for the club, for many his last straw was 2 years ago, his last straw in my eyes was tonight, am not even gutted, and I should b, but it's that bad am laughing! Terrible night for Glasgow Rangers, but if he goes, it could turn out to b a blessing!!

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Well done to the Alloa players. Top earner is apparently on a hundred quid a week and all putting in a shift at their work before the game and they still managed to come from a couple of goals down to beat us.

As for Ally he should hang that fat head of his in shame. Any true Rangers legend would have chucked it long ago in his position.

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And this 'legend' get's paid how much?
Maybe he will be embarrassed enough to fall on his sword and finally realise he is never a football manager.

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03 Dec 2014 21:45:28
Three attempts at the Diddy cup and couldn't win it once. Here is the real sad part though. With McCoist at the helm we won't be promoted so good luck with your 4th attempt next season.

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03 Dec 2014 21:30:55
even todays poll spoke with a forked tounge like charles green

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03 Dec 2014 21:29:57
what now McCoist? what now prima donnas? what now Rangers?
Utter rubbish, and it will never change until new management is in place!! Roll on January till we meet Celtic - oops what am I saying?
Simonsen ALWAYS boots the ball upfield, Aird ALWAYS doubles back, and as for the rest? bunch of LOST BOYS I'm afraid

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Myself and many others did tell you just how bad this clown was however you defended him at least now u have seen the light. The man is a joke, imposter and shouldn't be allowed to manage the team. What a total embarrassment tonight but just file it with the rest

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04 Dec 2014 00:12:31
ally mc coist stands there and poses for pictures ,i think he honestly believes he is bill struth re incarnated , the manager to go through a season undefeated against what? win 3 leagues in the trot , he d love his portrait to hang on the marble staircase which isn't going to happen ,,slowly but surely he won't be remembered for his goals. but for the embarrasing moments he has caused for all the clubs supporters doug t.s.o

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03 Dec 2014 21:29:19
well where does macoist g simples macoist must goo from here that was another lie charles green told he said that was the worst randers team ever lies this is the worst ever

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03 Dec 2014 21:26:01
Ally the party's over put us out of our misery please & go. It was shocking tonight.

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03 Dec 2014 21:21:24
Taxi for McCoist.

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03 Dec 2014 21:20:33
Bye bye McCoist you and your team are a disgrace, resign please

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03 Dec 2014 19:49:02
Lewis McLeod stretchered off and may now be out for absolutely crucial games in the Championship.

Said it for the past two years, Super Ally should be using the Challenge Cup for bringing through youngsters, not risking injuries to key players. Petrofac Cup, who really cares?

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Can you please drop the super ally! This man has proved since taking over as manger that there is nothing super about him. Imposter Ally is nearer the mark

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Naz: Ridiculous tonight, but you make a fair point, MacLeod injured again and key league matches to come.

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03 Dec 2014 21:31:01
Ally, go son, we are a shambles on and off the park, take Jig Miller Boyd and the rest with you, You are without doubt the worst Rangers team in history, and the worst manager, you should all hang your heads in shame. You shame the very club you claim to love. I am one disgusted Rangers fan.

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03 Dec 2014 21:23:03
Rf) Defend Mccoist and his players now after that pile of sh*te absolutely shocking sell the feckin lot in January.

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03 Dec 2014 21:49:49
Whos going to pay for them?

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03 Dec 2014 22:21:36
Ryan, we could try eBay, gumtree, bargain hunt and antiques road show, anywhere we may get shot of the worst Rangers side in living memory. Sad days just keep coming.

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04 Dec 2014 11:57:27
Seems he's went into hiding very quiet lol

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03 Dec 2014 21:42:32
What next can this group of players get any worse. we cannot blame ally this time.
2-0 up and once again throw it away a b###dy disgrace

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03 Dec 2014 21:41:10
Well that does it for me and all credit to Alloa who were the best team. No more chances, no more legend status the man is useless as a manager and MUST be sacked this evening. If not a total boycott and empty stadium till he is sacked or quits. It hurts me to say this but Rangers are a laughing stock.

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03 Dec 2014 21:36:12
it may be a wee diddy cup but this result is totally unacceptable. to be 2-0 up and lose this is a total embarrassment

ALLY YOUR TIME IS UP GO BEFORE THE CLUB GOES

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03 Dec 2014 21:33:07
this must be the end for ally now

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03 Dec 2014 21:32:02
sorry mistake yesterdays poll even I make mistakes

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03 Dec 2014 17:59:50
Good luck for the bears tonight, I don't care if were playing Barcelona in the champions league or Alloa in a diddy cup I will always back Rangers no matter what, I agree they're not easy on the eye at the moment, but at the end of the day WE ARE RANGERS and I honestly believe we will hammer Alloa tonight.

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03 Dec 2014 21:31:31
Oops!
Just a blip
"Super Ally, Super Ally etc etc"
Maybe we should pay the players more money? There's always Wonga.co.uk

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You are right you are rankers

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03 Dec 2014 21:36:57
Beyond embarrassment. Individually some good signings but sadly not operating as a team and a manager who thinks he is above us. So what is the way forward McCulloch retire tonight. You aren't the worst but you are a leader unlike McCoist, you will be our manager in future if you are as I believe a leader.
Ally seriously don`t think short term its your reputation v`s the money. Legend tonight Craig White in the morning. please don't be an arse. you were my hero

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Time for the master technician and half the team to go. what an absolutely shocking performance in defence.

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Well that's that prediction blown out the water. What a performance will be watching the sports news in the hope he gets his marching orders.

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03 Dec 2014 21:05:07
Maybe we should put in a bid for Stephanie Roche, what a goal that was.

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03 Dec 2014 21:20:42
Really? Pmsl

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03 Dec 2014 21:24:07
well well well game just finished just seen some of the worst defending ever tonight thought i'd seen some bad displays but tonight beats them all doug t.s.o

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That clown has to walk now. Just when you thought he couldn't embarrass any more we blow a 2 goal lead against a part time team crippled with injuries. It takes some sort of achievement not to win that cup in 3 attempts with a budget of £6m per year

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03 Dec 2014 21:45:04
We should have hammered them royalblue!surely he goes now?

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Wow. 3-2 to Alloa. When will he admit he can't manage a team?

. Not that it matters anyway, The club won't move forward with the current board regardless of manager. Continue with boycotts and stop giving the board money. I would be happy to see the club back in admin and in the bottom league again as long as we have the right people in charge

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03 Dec 2014 09:53:12
I would just like to say thanks to the boycotters for ruining any chance we had of success on all fronts this season all your boycotts has achieved is put the club in a more pererlous position financialy which has now led to mccoist announcing he will be unable to convince the board not to sell/release our top players so once again thank u very much for ruining our season. P. s boycotts achieve nothing as this board are going nowhere and now as I said its going to hurt the team hope your all proud how anyone can hurt what they profess to love is beyond me.
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Really!! But you still expect us to fund the spivs in charge when hardly any off the proceeds are going directly into the club? We will no doubt borrow more money from Ashley with more assets secured against it, I for 1 won't be back until our club is back in the hands off those you actually care about the club!

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03 Dec 2014 12:27:41
People still don't get it yes ashley will continue to give the club loans secured against assets that will eventually include Ibrox and Murray park, loans that cannot be paid back as there is not enough cash coming in so in the long run he WILL own everything and it will cost "THOSE" who care about the club a vast amount more than the loans he has given to get them back. Do I think board members are paying themselves to much of course I do but boycotts only serve to harm the team.
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03 Dec 2014 13:54:10
Rf) you are deluded if you thought we had any chance of winning all four competitions with our management team, and current squad of players, we've already got ourselves into a position in the league where if we drop many more points we'll need snookers, boycotting fans not to blame for the pish dished up on a weekly basis, so if we do lose players in January realistically how many would we actually miss.

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Rf - my sentiments entirely. The misguided boycotters, like spoiled kids at Xmas, don't have a clue what it is they want. So far, not one single board member, present or recent past, has been given their support, but at the same time, they say we're not going back until? until what exactly? until we go OUT OF BUSINESS? don't they understand how to run a business? the main income for the club is gate money/season ticket sales. How else do these boycotters expect the club to pay wages and bills?? The old club is gone, its history now, so surely there is something to be learned from it. Boycotters, all fans who can get to Ibrox, start getting off your asses and SUPPORT your team, now especially, is when that support is critical. Rant over.

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Dunno what all the fuss is about. Club legend and tactical mastermind Super Ally has told the Scotsman today that:

“I respect everything that’s going on at the football club right now. ”

And we all know Ally would speak out if there was anything remotely underhand going on, don’t we?

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To be fair to all fans we are in impossible position. We don't boycott and Ibrox is full for every home game and we swell the coffers of the greedy board, or what is left of it. Do we then watch them salting that money away into their own pockets just like before? Or do we boycott and probably push the club into admin 2 or worse? At what point would King come in - after admin 2?

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03 Dec 2014 14:17:50
r.f you have a cheek on you, all fans have a right to go or not go to games, it is their choice and not necessarily a boycott but just down to what their thoughts are regarding what's going on with our club. Remember you have lots of opinions on the matter so why not everybody else, or is it only the ones who think the same as you (does that actually make you correct and them wrong)
What you also seem to forget is we are in the position we are in not because of what is currently going on but as a result of what has gone on over the past few years since we went into the bottom tier after liquidation, and yes we were getting 40,000+ at every home game throughout these years. What was the excuse back then when you couldn't blame your fellow fans?
As for Ally I wouldn't believe a word that comes out his mouth, he has consistently over the years said what the board have told him to say to keep the fans on side, difference now is the fans see through him and see him for what he actually is and don't listen to him. He should be the first to take a salary cut if things are as bad as he makes out but will he? NO CHANCE

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Unfortunatley if that's the price to pay to get rid of these parasites then so be it. no longer will I blindly follow, lining the pockets of shysters including mccoist. you have your opinion. 40,000 others like me have ours.

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03 Dec 2014 14:25:05
wee bill, the fans have helped to generate the money/income through the gates, £70M and where has that gone, not into building a team on the park, not to carry out much needed work on Ibrox or Murray Park, not into a scouting system, not into youth development? Has the club actually benefitted anywhere from that money?

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03 Dec 2014 15:03:30
Rf blame who u like am glad ally not getting money to spend because he's useless will probably sign some ex player hasbeen who will get wae overpaid so blame who u like bit end of the day I blame the board the players and the manager that my opinion u have yours that's the way it is some folk will agree with u some won't

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03 Dec 2014 15:05:30
Apart from excessive wages what money are they filling there pockets with there IS NO MONEY! and please tell me how a drop in attendance and boycotting merchandise does not contribute to our financial position yes previous board members walked with there pockets full but as I said apart from excessive wages what money are the present taking out the club.
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03 Dec 2014 15:30:08
At soton bear I never said we would win all four I said any chance and if you can't see selling your best players or releasing them hinders your chances of success well!
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The shareholders have put their money where their mouth is, like it or lump it. You don't have to be a dyed in the wool Rangers fan to be a Board member or owner.

To the boycotters, best get ready to support a Sunday league team because that's what will be left after your " successful " protests. Thanks for that and please switch off the flood lights at Ibrox when you leave.

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03 Dec 2014 16:40:11
Totally agree Ryan!! Everyone has there opinion all I'm saying to the boycotters is careful what u wish for by the time they force admin 2 ashley will own all the assets including Ibrox through failure to pay loans and yes king or whoever may pick up the club for peanuts but u can bet your bottom dollar it will cost a fortune to get the assets including our ancestral home back from him & that's if he's prepared to sell them back as he could sell elsewhere.
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03 Dec 2014 17:23:51
Its clear Ashley wants to make money off us that's obvious but we don't know he mite have plans to make a succesful rangers or he may have plans to bleed us dry nobody really knows what his intentions are!he is painted as this monster until he does somethin bad to our club am prepared to give him a chance I know lots aren't and that's fair enough!but I stand by my decision I won't be back to watch mccoists team am scunnered wae him!

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03 Dec 2014 17:24:48
Rf) please list all our good players are they the same that thus far have us sitting 9 points behind a poor but we'll organised hearts side we've sent better out on loan Pity Ally not up for grabs in any January fire sale.

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@11) The club need 8 million to make it to the end of the season. Subtract the 3 that ashley will want back and that is 5 million to make it to the end of the season.
It would take far more additional paying customers than Ibrox can hold to make up that shortfall. And to answer your possible response, I worked out my figure by assuming that anyone how decided to go back bought a season ticket for a full season.
And to echo a previous poster, the club was making a loss during the last two seasons with many more season ticket holders.
The problem is that the outgoings are far higher than it is possible to bring in. Why is that? Too many people taking out more than the coffers will allow, from the players upwards.

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03 Dec 2014 17:59:08
@17 I agree sir I've said before the wages are excessive but people seem to assume they are filling there pockets with money that's not there, but that's not my point, my point is unless ashley is there for the good of the club and he might well be who knows but if he's not and fans keep boycotts up then his loans can't be paid and he will own every asset I know it sounds like a broken record but that's what will happen then if he doesn't care its admin 2 and millions to get our assets back.
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Rf is correct about the boycott which was started by dave king and his merrry men and he has still to buy 1 share ashley has bought shares and loaned money against assets same as he has done at newcastle we must give him a chance and all the talk of not buying from sports direct what the u o f must get into there nuts is we are just about into the last chance saloon or how many of the so called boycotters wil want tickets for the celtic game we must all pool together also we must promote the model being put forward by rangers first

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03 Dec 2014 19:01:05
Bell (when fit) macleod, Wallace, and templeton 4 players i'm sure other teams would like and b4 anyone suggests we could give the youth a chance they got gubbed at home 6-1 by youth team from porkheid.
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@2. r. f. I don't think Ashley will ever get ibrox or Murray park assets. because I think somebody already has that. don't know who, but that's why they keep saying we will never secure them against loans. because they can't. have they ever showed any proof whatsoever that ibrox and Murray park are still theirs. they're so devious they wouldn't dare tell yous because that would be the last straw for many many good fans

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03 Dec 2014 21:05:38
Dear o dear (shakes head in despair). I take it R.F stands for Rangers Forever? Or is it Refutes Facts? Cannae believe you can so easily blame ordinary folk for simply refusing to be mugged off anymore.
I'm not a boycotter by the way, I'm a mourner.

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03 Dec 2014 21:26:08
What's this misguided belief that the missing fans are all down to Dave Kings rallying cries? There were plenty folk that bowed out long before he was back on the scene. Dave King had eff all to do with my decision. I happen to think he's another unscrupulous fecker. It's ridiculous to lump all stay away fans/ex fans as boycotters when it's simply not true. Need I remind you how many innocent people have lost jobs, businesses and money throughout this fiasco? I happen to think it's an insult to them that this club and some supporters are happy to carry on regardless, insisting it's the same 140 year old entity whilst countless millions have disappeared. You'd be as well dressing up in your sports direct gear and p155ing through their letterbox whilst laughing. Crass is not a strong enough word.

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03 Dec 2014 09:48:22
Hypothetically, how viable is fan membership/ownership? should we stop relying on wealthy individuals? let's face it, whoever the porker in charge will fill his/her belly then trot on leaving us, the fans, to clean the pigsty.

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03 Dec 2014 14:20:16
I think this is our best hope for a say in things or to force the board to at least take notice. Nothing else seems to be working so owning a considerable amount of shares maybe our only hope. Unfortunately it would take a lot of shares and with too many fans groups pulling in different directions, which only confuses people further, and not enough people coming forward to join a fan ran share scheme I am not sure how successful this option will be.
I have joined a fan led share issue, and although it might come to nothing, at least I feel like I am trying. If all the fans who are now not spending money on merchandise and games had put that same amount of money instead into a fans share scheme I believe we would be able to accumulate enough shares to have a say or at the very least make the board take notice of the fans.
I can't even put into words the anger I am feeling towards Sommers and the rest of the board. Their silence shows a total disregard for the fans and even when they do break that silence they never tell the full story which only leads to more questions. They are treating the fans like muppets. The decisions they continually make are baffling to say the least. I sometimes wonder if they even have a brain in their heads between them. How can you select a new Financial Advisor who has had dealings with C W? It is crazy!!, whether they are the best Financial advisor’s on the planet surely common sense should tell you to rule them out as an option to avoid more negative publicity and further backlash from the fans. The trouble is they just don’t care about the fans and are treating us with total contempt. One other thing, I still can’t work out why they took Ashley’s loan over the other 2, makes no sense.
I think we will get the needed loans to continue but secured against our major assets. If Ibrox does end up been given up for a secured loan you would have to ask why they did not do that from the start when the UOF asked for it against their season ticket money. I am starting to really fear for us now lads.

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03 Dec 2014 14:56:18
correct me if I am wrong easdale Crichton sat at last years agm and promised they had funds at the click of a button looks like they where lying to us before boycotts ect they new fine well they would run out of money this season they have blew millions of pound on there bonuses pay offs brought no stability to club people to blame is the board not the fans as for cuts they should have happend a long time ago mccoist is just getting his excuses in case it happens to squad we only have wallace and lewis who will fetch any money as we missed opportunity buy our manager choosing to build old team instead of young players with sell on value total shambles the lot of it and for people to blame fans is a shame turning on your own

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Bobsta73:That's the one that refuses to go away, keeps getting swept under the carpet. Who owns the stadium?I think Ashley would have offered a long term soft loan of 15-20 mill by now if we owned it.

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03 Dec 2014 19:18:30
A valid concern gkk.

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03 Dec 2014 19:56:28
was just thinking gkk, as I watch this drivel on the net, is that another reason why the board may have knocked back Brain Kennedy's offer? Did he have something in his offer that made Ibrox exempt from ever being used as a secured loan or being sold or something? I'm probably jumping at shadows but I just think the worse from any of our boards decisions nowadays.

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02 Dec 2014 22:53:46
Listen fellow Bears am not part of any fans organisation not sos or the blue order or rst or none of that I am just a scorned blue nose this is our last chance to change how and if we survive and have a future how come Celtic fans forced change and we can't do it surely it can't be that hard Mike Ashley is not the answer and neither is Dave king we need a true Rangers businessman in running our famous Glasgow rangers we are the Rangers family and the people who are running it the now would don't no the meaning of the word family the have got £s signs in there eyes before family we need them out and there's only one way to do it stop putting money into everything that they are in connection with please it's the only way Rangers will be back bigger and stronger

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03 Dec 2014 14:00:35
Ssb:I don't doubt your love for the club we all want the same thing,but we are in a worse position(again)than Celtic ever were.OK different circumstances maybe, we put our trust in CW,Green(my blood is boiling at that f**k naming that horse and laughing at us)and got shafted good style.I really dread the outcome this time I don't mind admitting.Do you honestly think Jim McColl will ride to the rescue?I think that ship has long sailed.Fan ownership or even part ownership?I honestly think that is too late also.I personally think/hope Ashley has long term plans for us,but I don't know how long I'll wait without any announcement from him,I mean he says less than a mute.Maybe the AGM might shed a bit of light,but they b**llsh***d us last year.I'm giving it a few months then I'll make a decision.

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