Rangers Banter Archive July 31 2019

 

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31 Jul 2019 22:44:57
Hey folks my da works in a chippy and he heard two guys talking about Hastie but it was Jimmy Hastie from Bannockburn they were talking about, one of them got a fish supper and the other got a haggis supper so there you go. On a serious note I can't see him making the first team but hey ho, must go dads bringing me a bag of the wee crunchy bits from the dryers at the end of the night.



01 Aug 2019 10:58:00
Goph,
The worry might be that we have a 3 year deal with them and they may pursue us for compensation for breaching the teams of our deal.
Someone at Rangers has some explaining to do about this cock up as its cost us plenty already.
Oh and I think the home top is quite smart.



31 Jul 2019 22:38:12
I've still got my black and red top that one if the supporters groups were selling a few years back when it came to light that the fat man was ripping the club off. So next year apply to the SPFL to play in these Red and Black tops and give SD F A.



01 Aug 2019 10:11:14
Aye let’s play in a black and red top that was out a few years ago. That won’t be embarrassing. Jeezo.



01 Aug 2019 11:44:37
Can we not just wear this seasons strips again as all the injunctions are for next years strips or am I reading it wrong.



31 Jul 2019 22:27:35
I said today when I heard the news that someone needs a good boot out the door for even going near Hummel when this was still be litigated in the courts,



01 Aug 2019 06:00:43
James Blair is apparently to blame for this.



31 Jul 2019 21:57:09
Was reading about the mess with the fat rat whoever's involved from a Rangers side should be hung out to dry. How they could misunderstand a deal so badly then go and make another deal with hummel. Talk about your head in the sand. 😠😠.



31 Jul 2019 20:19:04
And with that the ryan kent deal is apparently dead. I feel sorry for the guy. No one is going to meet the valuation that Liverpool have seemingly put on him and they don't want to loan him out either plus he is contracted to Liverpool until 2022. Waste of a talented player imo.



31 Jul 2019 21:59:24
Klopp will let him go to some team down South for around 6m knowing he ain't going to get much chances at Anfield! He ain't worth 10m that's for sure! I'd say 5-6m Harry Wilson is probably worth between 10-15m.



31 Jul 2019 19:50:21
Well after listening to gerrard's pressie tonight, I think that its finally sinking in that the ryan kent deal ain't happening, as he won't be back at rangers.



31 Jul 2019 20:06:10
agreed SG

but stranger things have happened.



01 Aug 2019 07:47:54
A fully fit Murphy is better than Kent anyway. Although, Kent has the potential to become a much better player than Murphy. Not the end of the world he's not coming back even though I would like him to.



31 Jul 2019 17:34:27
Folks, I pride myself in being a level headed and reasonably intelligent 72 year old, but, I'm sick and tired of our Club being ridiculed in the courts, and by fans of other Clubs, over this Ashley fiasco. The Rangers Board need to give us total transparency on this extremely damaging situation we are now in. How much will Hummel sue us for as we can no longer deal with them, why did DK lie to us that this was now resolved 2 years ago. Are any of you as worried as I am, because this cannot be swept under the carpet any longer.



31 Jul 2019 18:10:36
I echo your worry irvger. I have been following glasgow rangers everywhere, for nigh on 40 odd years now myself and i'm deeply concerned with this devestating news regarding our retail/ kit deal. I honestly don't know what the end game is going to be here guys. Very worrying times.



31 Jul 2019 18:49:36
Got a friend close to the Dougie Park side and it’s believed inside the board we have real problem and have cocked up big time concerning the kit deal including trying to pay Ashley off? Ashley isn’t going to let this go😌🇬🇧.



31 Jul 2019 18:54:11
Devastating news is when a member of your family won’t see Xmas, we need to ride the storm.



31 Jul 2019 19:28:30
John, Glasgow Rangers are family 🇬🇧✊.



31 Jul 2019 20:39:59
We are all dooooomed the panty wetters out in force tonight get a grip!



31 Jul 2019 20:54:48
Yately not a son or daughter, perspective mate.



31 Jul 2019 21:41:59
Ashley's kit deal dies next year anyway SDI themselves have said it's too late for this year. WE survived for 3 years on nothing sorry 7p in the pound, and nobody bought the kit so who cares. So we tell hummel they can have the 2 years after that instead of one we got a good deal with them anyway. Worst case we have 1 year with no kits for us or our kids. Why not ask hummel to release a new kit at the mid season point and we all buy that for next year there is no embargo on us buying retro kits.



31 Jul 2019 22:14:45
Goodness sake John you are the one that’s bringing up sons and daughters passing away! We don’t need that chat? 🇬🇧.



31 Jul 2019 22:38:35
Yately fact, so don’t tell me football more than important than our kids.



31 Jul 2019 22:57:52
Think your all getting well carried away with this . From my reading it's like this. We have to pay the fat man compo for breaking the contract but the judge decides what that will be . What factors he takes into account I don't know prob sales figures, loss of revenue etc etc . we were tied into I think a 7yr deal for as little as 7p in the £ . Dk knows even with legal expenses and compo we will still be better off . The judge has thrown out the right to appeal, fair enough . Worst case scenario as I'm sure someone else mentioned is hummel bring out new kits well in advance . They will want to maximise profits . We might have to pay them to end the deal early then we're free to do as we wish . I honestly believe that given the circumstances we'll be fine . Stop being scared of every little thing that comes out a court . They use threatening language all the time in the most mundane of cases . This is no different.



31 Jul 2019 23:50:29
Sounds like you have a load on your plate john25, I'm sorry to hear that and thoughts are with you and yours. 👍.



01 Aug 2019 09:57:57
Cheers Coldo. Much appreciated.



01 Aug 2019 10:48:04
Totally agree mate we should be told what's happening.



31 Jul 2019 16:31:13
Forget about Morelos story!

WHAT ABOUT THE FRICKEN COURT INJUNCTION ON NEXT YEARS KIT!

The board must give answers about this sorry mess!



31 Jul 2019 16:34:19
Get SD to make the strips next year and don't buy a single one from the fat rat.



31 Jul 2019 17:27:09
Agreed, this is all worrying now. A lot of fans seem to think the stories last week were a lot of rubbish but no smoke without fire as the saying goes. Apparently James Blair is to blame for this.



31 Jul 2019 17:33:02
This is a very serious situation for our club, regarding this kit selling and manufacturing situation. We as a club have now to pay that rat's company SD 450k in legal fees, within a fortnight. As if that's not bad enough, the full amount we will have to pay him in legal fees, will be decided at a later date in court.
Now hummel/ elite can't make our kits or sell our kits after this season,
which means we're very much in breach of our hummel contract, which was for 3 years. Hummel may also claim damages for us, for being roped into this and quite possibly misled,
in this whole affair. Most definitely heads should roll for this massive error which is catastrophic for our football club. Within our own board they have made a serious, very amateurish error and people have to be brought to task on this. Whatever we all think of that mike ashley character, doesn't hide the fact that people working for our club are to blame for this, which is astonishing! Where do we go from here i honestly don't know. We are in deep soapy bubbles, make no mistake about it. We will quite possibly be back to puma making our kits from next season, with SD being the retail partners and the only ones allowed to sell our replica kits. Heads must roll for this, as whoever is too blame for this has cost glasgow rangers a helluva lot of dough and made our club a laughing stock. What is the end game here fellow bears, any thoughts?



31 Jul 2019 18:01:28
I really don't know where the end game is tbh, there doesn't appear to be one where Ashley is concerned. Yes, Ashley is a fat w£&k, but how did our board and legal team think they could possibly beat him. We're stuck with him, and you're right, paying his legal fees, damages (amount still to be decided) and probably Hummel going to seek damages for breach of contract next season just makes our club like total amatures. This is deeply worrying and any fan that still thinks we'll be fine needs to take a look at where we're heading. And no, I'm not a Tim, just a very concerned gers fan. DK needs to come out and explain exactly what is going on.



31 Jul 2019 18:01:58
It would be amateurish if someone has made an error unintentionally. This feels like trying to purposely pull a fast one and being caught out. Unfortunately I don't see much transparency forthcoming.



31 Jul 2019 18:04:16
Maybe the board had a plan b for this situation by naming it the hummel training centre and we can still have hummel over the stadium its just the strips we can wear am have a slight feeling rangers themselfs will design a kit which could get under the skin of some clubs and we must have made plenty of cash from kit sales this year so hummel still get there money from that just my opinion.



31 Jul 2019 18:08:20
Am I the only one who thinks it is the elite side if the deal that has been squashed? I mean our deak with hunmel was 100% legit, so why would it be thrown out? I have read the injunction and it states elite/ hummel 3 times but doesn't say our deal with hummel is void. I have a feeling this will be settled when SD have received compensation.



31 Jul 2019 18:19:55
What I don’t understand is why a judge has imposed this injunction on Hummel? What does our dispute have to do with a manufacturer? Why have they been punished, is this not an argument about who sells and what money is earned?

Seriously what is going on here.



01 Aug 2019 08:08:20
Morning Folks, I'm reading some posts here that anyone who is worried at present by this fiasco is a panty wetter, and that the current deal was for 7 Years etc?, who among us actually knows what was agreed. The dark side posted £17 Million from Kit Sales last year, while we post next to zero from ours, a real wake up call is needed now, not panic, just sound business sense. I agree that comparisons to football and family is ridiculous, but if we want to continue and see our Club in the future we must restructure now, and get rid of whoever was behind this shambles, and get a feasible and profit making business plan written.



01 Aug 2019 08:47:07
So we can't use Hummel for next season.
Well is it not beyond the realms of possibility that we offer Hummel the year after next season.



01 Aug 2019 10:52:32
Hi lads, I agree that heads should roll, But what heads? . I am sure in my mind that the board pay good money to top lawyer's to go through everything with a fine tooth comb, and also give Rangers legal advice on these types of matters, we don't just go into these deals with our eyes closed. I also agree, that the fans need transparency regarding all this, and if it found that we have been given bad advice then we are the ones who should be seeking compensation.

And why did Ashley not come in sooner with his bid as agreed by another judge, why was there no time limit, Imo Ashley did this intentionally as he was frightened of losing the bid by coming in too low. I just feel there is a load of shenanigans going on here and it is not all down to one person.



01 Aug 2019 10:53:16
Can anyone enlighten me to how long this Ashley deal lasts I read somewhere we had a seven year contract originally we paid £3 mill to get out of that but how long does Ashley’s grip last.



01 Aug 2019 10:53:27
Rangers have taken out a contract with Hummel that has been deemed illegal. They now have to pay SD £450k and further more they will have to pay basically loss of earnings to SD for all the lost sales to Hummel. This will be several million. Then, Hummel will sue Rangers, also for the loss of earnings, again for millions. Rangers are in big trouble here because they have no choice but to pay. I can see administration coming sooner rather than later.



31 Jul 2019 15:38:18
Would take Skirtel and sell Goldson who although is a no bad defender his distribution badly let's him down.



31 Jul 2019 16:22:28
Goldson distribution let's him down?
Although i also like big katic, his distribution is by far the worst, of our 4 centre halfs mate!



31 Jul 2019 17:20:19
Stay calm coop, can't imagine Goldson is going anywhere and hopefully skirtel is a no-no.



31 Jul 2019 15:24:20
I think if the rumours are true and Skrtel is joining us then Katic will be sold or he’s wanting to leave!

Personally think Katic is our number 1 defender (specially if your going my recent performances)



31 Jul 2019 16:02:42
It would be a real shame if Katic went as he has the makings of a right good player. There's no reason why he couldn't play in the Croatian national team. If he did the sky would be the limit as far as transfer fees go.



31 Jul 2019 15:18:35
Apparently Alfredo Morelos has turned down £30m move to Chinese club Hebei Fortune.

Hebei Fortune bid an excess of £15m

It’s good to know it’s not about money when comes to Morelos. I think he will stay with out another season unless a premier league club comes in for him.



31 Jul 2019 15:39:44
Cue the dark side!



01 Aug 2019 10:49:30
Can't be true though.



31 Jul 2019 15:09:17
Sky reporting Morelos has rejected 10 million a year wages for three years in China.200k a week
Transfer fee was reputed to be 15 million.



31 Jul 2019 15:22:30
There is no way he turned down 200k a week or we rejected 15mil👍.



31 Jul 2019 15:04:12
Morelos turns down move to China.



31 Jul 2019 15:44:17
Who wants to play in China 😌🇬🇧.



31 Jul 2019 15:57:41
And as a High Court judgement comes out so swiftly comes the squirrel.



01 Aug 2019 10:41:18
Alfie must stay for 55
Nobody will take the job of scoring 30+ if he goes.



01 Aug 2019 10:42:09
That's a lot of salt n pepper chips.



31 Jul 2019 13:48:42
I was given this question and would like to share with any of my fellow bears, who would like to participate. As we have a much better quality squad now, some of our better players won't play every game and will get rested for some games. The question to you all out there is, for the celtic games, what would your rangers starting 11 be?



31 Jul 2019 14:03:42
Simple answer for me the team that started the last old firm game with ojo aribo or Jones replacing Kent. And definitely katic to start.



31 Jul 2019 14:09:09
Mcgregor tav goldson katic flanagan jack kamara davis aribo arfield defoe. I would need to see more of helander edmundson ojo jones barasic etc, particularly ojo and barasic. 👍.



31 Jul 2019 14:12:31
My team against celtic would be-
Mcgregor
Tavernier
Goldson
Helander
Halliday
Davis
Jack
Aribo
Ojo
Defoe
Arfield
Found it extremely difficult to leave kamara out the starting 11.But
found it more difficult to leave any of our other midfielders out. IF kent was signed, i'd put ojo on the bench,
which would make our front 3 of arfield on the right, defoe middle and kent wide wouldn't play with 2 out and out wingers against them. So we would play a little narrower on the right with arfield, with obviously kent IF signed giving us more width on our left hand side.



31 Jul 2019 14:30:23
SGL - In the friendly games, I think Katic and Edmundson are the best centre halves we have, but maybe a bit young to throw into an old firm game - Katic and Helander for me. Goldson is a worry?
The rest of your team looks ok, but still VERY unconvinced by OJO, his pace may crucify the celtic defence though, so willing to give him a shot.



31 Jul 2019 14:44:37
Good side Coop, with only problem being left bank position🇬🇧.



31 Jul 2019 15:10:55
Mcgregor
Tavernier
Edmundson
Helander
Barisic
Davis
Kamara/ Jack
Aribo
Ojo
Defoe
Jones/ Arfield.



31 Jul 2019 15:21:58
McGregor
Tav
Goldson
Katic
Halliday
Jack
Davis
Aribo
Arfield
Jones
Defoe.



31 Jul 2019 23:07:58
McGregor
Tav
Goldson
Katic
Barasic
Jack
Davis
Aribo
Arfield
Jones
Defoe.



31 Jul 2019 12:38:57
Sad what's happened to bury. would like to see the club help in some way either by loaning some of our fringe players there or a fund raising friendly. horrible position to be in.



31 Jul 2019 13:43:41
Totally agree DUNFERMLINELOYAL. If there's any way we can, we should try and help them. The bury manager and steven gerrard are friendly, so you never know. All the very best of luck to bury and i hope everything gets sorted out for them. It is a very sad situ to be in.



31 Jul 2019 14:32:18
If they can keep going, which will be difficult, could we not put as many of the Development squad there 'on loan' as well as one of our coaches and give them proper first team experience and hopefully work up the leagues.



31 Jul 2019 12:03:22
People forgot how hard it is to replace 30 goals a season waghorn 9 million? couldn't get 20 up here. If the wee man never missed a game n took penaltys he would be pushing 50 goals a season.



31 Jul 2019 12:42:49
You’re right Boab, the Morelos haters won't understand until he’s gone then they’ll be too stubborn to admit they were wrong.



31 Jul 2019 13:10:34
Agree 100% guys.



31 Jul 2019 14:27:56
Defoe would more than make up for the loss of morelos. We never missed morelos when he got the 5 game ban, infact we were a better team without him, infact we went on our most consistent run of wins since 2011. Defoe was scoring plenty, so was arfield. The football we played and the link up play was breathe taking at times.

If morelos can stay on the park he'd score 50, well that's just the problem. Can we or gerrard trust him in the big games? Going by what we have seen so far then the answer is no. let's face it, we would have beat celtic at celtic park that day with 11 men and who knows what would have happened in the title race.

On the other hand it was a blessing that he was sent off and banned because we then realised that we don't need him and that we are a better team without him.

What we should be hoping for is that we get daft money for him and use it to get kent. Celtic are scared of kent and so are their fans. To date kent has done more harm to celtic than morelos has.

Having said all that, for those who get quite sensitive when we don't worship morelos, I don't hate him, I think he is a great goal scorer but aswell as goals defoe brings a lot more to the team and going by the facts that I mentioned above we won't miss him as much as you's think. Infact we will miss kent more👍.



31 Jul 2019 14:37:03
Based on last year (daft head banging moments aside) he showed he has a big future - however was it a one off? he has missed absolute sitters in the last few friendlies - I hope the league makes him get back to what he was doing last year - my worry is we do not now seem to play to a system that suits him. what we need dare I say it is an Ally McCoist type - 6-8 yards out, nothing else - just bang them in.



31 Jul 2019 12:04:17
I see that Ben woodburn has went to oxford on season long loan. I think he could have done a job for us. Opportunity missed imo.



31 Jul 2019 11:56:29
Been coming on to this for some time and had to join. Some amount of football manager chat on here (bull) . Why would we need ANOTHER cb? Atleast make a good rumour up. For the morelos argument i hope we do get rid of him. People need to start realising that the scottish league is a walk in the park compaired to the big leagues. Take 10 to 15m for him. Team plays better without him anyway.



31 Jul 2019 12:40:33
who will score 30 goals then? walk in the park so i guess on that argument we could get a 1m striker and be ok.



31 Jul 2019 15:07:27
That's what morelos was, geesadodathat.



31 Jul 2019 10:37:28
Just read in SPORT WITNESS that SKRTLE is apparently in talks with rangers. If this is true, and not just gossip my question is WHY THE FU#K. We have got plenty cover at the back and his massive wages would be far better spent on an out and out striker. I hope and think this is a non story. Thoughts fellow bears.



31 Jul 2019 11:29:36
Sports witness seems to be on the same level as HITC and sports insider as knowing the square route of FA.



31 Jul 2019 11:46:46
I wouldn't have him anywhere near the club! He's past it, would demand huge wages and we already have 4 good CB's. Why are we not looking at getting in more strikers? I don't think we will sell Morelos to be honest and what's happened to Hastie?



31 Jul 2019 12:11:53
From what I've seen in pre season games re Hastie. Imo he is not ready to challenge for a regular start. I think he will be used more in cup games or to cover injuries ect.



31 Jul 2019 12:38:24
maybe Connor godson going to real Madrid 80m.



31 Jul 2019 12:46:58
Hope we stay well away from him . Perfect world want a half decent striker on the door and a left back.



31 Jul 2019 13:58:03
@lance - who does Godson play for? You been on the performance enhancing Smarties again? 😂😱😂.



31 Jul 2019 15:20:07
Everyone on here seems to think Skirtle might be coming in as a 5th CB. Could it be he is being brought in as a CB COACH? After all, our CBS are young guys.



31 Jul 2019 09:24:14
I see Newcastle have had a 4.5 million bid for the Amiens right back rejected. Will they now move for Tav?



31 Jul 2019 10:53:26
Steve bruce might just be playing it down. But said he has no idea where the media think newcastle has interest in Tav.



31 Jul 2019 10:53:43
Not if they are only looking to spend 4.5 million they wont.



31 Jul 2019 08:39:44
If the choices below were given which options for another striker would you choose?
- Fredo stays so limited funds
- With money from Fredo sale.



31 Jul 2019 11:04:35
It's difficult tbh. If the kid sorts out the discipline I'd like him to stay. If not he will cost us the title. 30+ goals a season would be a huge loss. Apparently the boss has really ramped up fines for offenders. This is the best way forward imo. This has to be sorted out.



31 Jul 2019 12:41:13
100% fredo stay.



31 Jul 2019 12:45:39
Seeker. Fines are not a Deterrent for getting sent off, Unless they are substantial, Bring them in on there days off for more training Or have them train with young yins. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇦🇺.



31 Jul 2019 13:30:40
Those type of things would all help as well, cunny 👍👍.



31 Jul 2019 13:40:46
Seeker 👍.



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