Rangers Banter Archive July 31 2012

31 Jul 2012 21:14:02
Just read on the BBC website that Companies house have told Green that we can not use the name .The Rangers .They say we will need to change it..Also why did Regan not come out and say we can keep our history ..Just anyone can take what they want from it...I think what he was saying is The fans will always keep the history but it is a new club ..But the fans will always have the history

I really do want to get behind Green but he is acting very strangely at the moment. He knew beforehand that making a superficial name change wouldn't be acceptable to Companies House so why go ahead with the charade?

Is he now just looking to play the victim in an attempt to endear himself to sections of the Rangers support?

BARNEY BEAR

And im telling you that your talking p*sh and we will keep the name...mark.

@2: we'll see - it's possible that if the name, badge and shirt are all kept, BDO and HMRC will be looking for last the oldco's tax debts from the newco...

31 Jul 2012 20:55:46
watching mwell in europe and was hoping they would do ok until they started singing lets all laugh at rangers, whos laughing now 1 down and no more champs league for you

JG

Remind me, how did rangers oldco get on in Europe last season?

What was there anybody there watching from the pics in the paper it looked empty wonder what the attendance was. As for the song just goes to show how much bigotry/hatred is still shown to rangers. Motherwell should be careful how they laugh at because if that's all the crowd they get for a cl qualifier on a decent evening mid summer imagine how bad it will be mid winter with st mirren

@1. remind me how did celtic get on last season? and if your a well fan you where only there as a second team because of rangers keep that in ya mind as you win nothing this season...mark.

2) at least rangers werent the first team to be knocked out the sames competition twice in 1 season

Poster 1 , as bad as your mob, at least we admit it doug t.s.o

So singing about laughing at Rangers is bigotry?! Give your head a shake.

I also noticed well fans sportingly try to hit the away player with missiles when taking a corner any mention in the DR today as they are so concerned with all things sporting

JG

JG

@3: they made the group stages and money that might have helped Rangers prevent administration if they had done the same.

@5: wrong: Rangers didn't make the group stages so they were worse.

@2 there was a huge 9035 people there and that for the biggest game they will have this season

JG

31 Jul 2012 17:52:24
Well Sky have signed a new 5 year deal, am I getting this right? Because this site led me to believe everything would stop to a standstill if 'The Rangers' were to drop down! VEGIEBHOY

Only got the deal because of rangers

Only signed if u look 5 rangers games included and leagues will change soon ,sky said themselves only if rangers are included div3 games ..

Think you will find the deals worth a lot less and was part based on being able to show a certain amount of rangers games,so yes the spl did and still do need the mighty Glasgow rangers.now jog on timothy!

Don't you realise the deal was only secured because Rangers' games were added to the package. Do keep up.

They only signed when they got the rights to show rangers games ya clown

They olny signed the deal because the gers agreed to media rights during the meetings with sfa,sfl and the spl pricks last week. 18 + gers games to be broadcast.

For all you know the deal could be worth £1 million compared to the previous £80. The money is what matters not just getting a TV deal. Heck I would offer the SPL £1 to show all their games.

Oh well your share will pay Scott Brown's wages until January.

Presumably 'the gers' agreed when they realised everyone had them by the proverbials.

Yes but you have lost £17 million over the next 5 years,so 63 milllion pounds-divided by twelve is roughly five million,over five years is only about £1 million a season,so really it hardly helps you.

31 Jul 2012 16:59:36
Sky sign new 5 year deal.

IRN-BRU SFL3: Peterhead v Rangers (Sat 11th Aug) will now kick-off at 12.45pm (Live on Sky Sports)

Hope you Bears didn't cancel your Sky subscription too soon.

Why would we want to sign up to sky sports for 5 games , When we can go along and support the team?

Unlike you, I'll be going to the game and supporting my team!

@1: that's not always been the mentality though.

31 Jul 2012 16:30:50
Season book sales still not above the 1000 mark bears.Lets no be despondent because it isn't Rangers 1872.

As Charles and Alistair keep telling us we're called The Rangers and we'll play at Ibrox (unless Charles sells to one of his Arab pals), we'll still train at Murray Park (unless Charles sells to anyone who'll buy!).

We've got Alistair as our manager, as Charles says for the next 25 years and already in his first season in management had a fantastic record of opening up a lead (just couldn't hold onto it) and his cup record might improve with us competing in the Ramsdens cup.

We're signing players no other third division club could afford even though we are a third division club and although Charles says we're debt free he's already agreed to take on about £4m in football debt from the old Rangers1872 and the Scottish PFA are about to launch a I understand that PFA Scotland will soon lodge a “protective award claim” against Sevco Scotland Limited.They hope to secure 13 weeks wages for their members because the new company did not carry out a proper consultation as required under the Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment) Regulations 2006.

But it's all fine cause WATP!!

I think youll find the first payment date is the 7th of august,check the figures then

I think youll find the first payment date is the 7th of august,check the figures then

If you are a Gers fan that is a f*ckin brilliant post. All looks as dodgy!!

How do you purchase a ticket cos when I go online it says that season ticket sales are currently suspended. Otherwise I would buy two straight away.

31 Jul 2012 15:52:02
To all Rangers fans:

I'll be honest; i'm a Celtic fan. I'm not on to gloat or take the p155. However, I have to say that i'm still completely bemused that, despite everything, there is no real mobilisation of the Rangers support in any meaningful way to get Green to show his plans for Rangers newco. His playing to the cheap seats and his ridiculous musings on newco vs other clubs finances apart, this guy is getting away with murder from the media but, more importantly, from Rangers fans. Rangers supporters must start to demand that this guy shows his hand and what his future plans are for the club. I have read decent projections for Rangers finances this season and, even taking into account the fact that a lot of the income/outgoings are general estimates based on Rangers last set of financial figures, the newco stands to have a huge cash shortfall this season. Rangers fans need to demand that Green detail his plans to take the club forward and to stop believing every spurious 'they are out to get us' piece of garbage this guy comes out with. He is playing to the mugs just now by appealing to the emotions of the least intellectual of the fan base. It's time for some one to ask him to show his plans for the club instead of spouting persecution rhetoric.

I am fairly certain CG stated that he wants RFC fans to buy season tickets and while there will be losses, the losses will be covered by the consortium.

What would be achieved by demanding knowledge from CG? He could tell us any old sh*te.

Persecution rhetoric,how dare we use Celtics much used strategy.

I'll be honest; i'm a Rangers fan. I'm not on to gloat or take the p155. But i'm bemused at the Smeltic support continually on here spouting pure ph!ss. Continually niggling away at the ankles of RFC, trying to put doubt into a support that have gone through an awful lot more than their own.
For the record Save our Celts started in 1990, pittered away and a Celts for change came along in 1993, then in 1994 Fergus McCann arrived and he done a job.
If the Rangers support took that as the benchmark then this club would be no more, end of. 4 years of nothing happening from the support pressure and your debt grew apart from the barren years 1989 to 1995. It was only because of the debt that McCann could walk in, not the smeltic support, nor Dempsey shouting about Rebels - talk about playing to the cheap seats.
Thanks for your comments, but no thanks.

Stop worrying about rangers our finances are fine this season. There are no projections for you to work of as that little Sh-te whyte never handed accounts in and basically just made it up that we lost money for the 3 years before whyte took over we were paying the debt of at 6 mil a year so away and worry about your own team instead of scare mongering about rangers finances

31 Jul 2012 15:32:25
Kenneth signs for Bristol Rovers, thank god as I thought we be in division 3 for the next 3 seasons if we'd signed him!

31 Jul 2012 13:50:53
There must be doing something right with respect to signing players as he has been able to bring in two players that last year played in the spl who would walk into others. also having more on trial. As apposed to last year when we seemed to be getting back on our feet with money and bringing in nothing much in the way of players

OP what a lot of sh#t..... the reason you went bust is because you had no money last year.

@1. The actual point the OP is making is spot on. With Whyte we were promised a 'war chest' for transfers and he put deliberate lowball bids in all over the place as a token gesture to the fans and signed no-one whilst we were led to believe the club was regaining a stable financial footing after the Murray/Lloyds fiasco. Little did we know that at the same time he was pocketing the cash (allegedly) and fleecing HMRC and creditors until it was too late. Now Green has came in and we have found ourselves in Division 3 we have quite rightly been extremely sceptical of his motives in buying the club and whether or not he has the necessary finances to even keep the club afloat. The last thing we, the fans, need is another charlatan at the helm. Already he has signed some half decent players with even more to come and I am now willing to give him a chance because of that. Furthermore, Regan also confirmed tonight that the financial plans put to the SFA by Green were entirely acceptable in terms of the short to mid term financial stability of the club as otherwise they would not have granted the licence if there were any fears at all of another administration/liquidation event in the near future. These are positives at last for Rangers fans which is a nice change compared to what we, as fans, have suffered over the past year or so when everything was entirely negative. Give it a rest, it is time everyone started moving forwards instead of backwards.

Brian

Great post brian.

31 Jul 2012 13:03:37
Looks like green will do or say anything to get the money out of the fans pocket. The rangers is a new club that plays where the old rangers used to. So where does he get the 140 years history from your lucky if the Rangers has 140 days history. This man just wants your money

Your just not grasping this are you? It's the corporate entity that's in the process of liquidation and eventual dissolution, the gers go on same colours same stadium , it's not that hard to understand .

Our history still remains just like rangers still remain you hoped for us to die it never happened. You then tried to convince yourselfs that the name would die as it would be against the law it never happened. I'm afraid to say timmys it's time to give up and accept the fact that the mighty rangers are just to big to be killed of. Anyway enjoy the usual dross of the spl for the next 3 years. Because us rangers fans will certainly be enjoying the biggest adventure ever taken by Scotland's biggest club

Timmy internet propaganda.

Of course he wants our money unless you know of some way to run a football club on thin air.

@3: just like administration and liquidation was 'timmy internet propaganda'?

31 Jul 2012 11:20:30
We're hearing that a SKY TV Deal
has been done (12M) but only
because they could get Rangers TV media rights by
blackmailing Club. I'd like to petition SKY that if Rangers aren't paid fairly - 40% then Rangers fans will boycott sky. We'd lose a pittence but half the SPL would go bust. What do you think, and if you agree what's the best way to do this?

Stop reading the newspaper propaganda mate the whole thing getting old, rangers are my team but lets get real, chance is newco will be in administration in no time if you keep that attitude up cause no one will want to deal with up club, players or fans

I won't be getting sky back in until we're back in SPL , which I think will be sooner than 4 years. In the mean time I'll give the money I save to the club through ticket money and merchandise

Blueice

I cannot wait until that t*t Doncaster comes out and says this represents a great deal for the SPL and shows sky's commitment to Scottish football.

Right for a start, none of the away stadiums are big enough to accomodate our usual travelling support apart from Hampden, so only way we can see games will be via Sky!

So talk some sense FFS.

So your thinking suggests that other clubs should ultimately be punished for the corruption within your own club?? Typical. Just typical. Here we go again.....we're not to blame and all that rubbish. Shut up and focus on 3D. Sorry, I meant D3! LOL

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

Totally agree mate, no other clubs should be living off our name and income. Every Rangers supporter should cancel their subscription with Sky and only reinstate it on the proviso Rangers are paid the 40%. Petition Sky and the SFA.

Rangers1

SPL chairmen to decide tomorrow. If they agree what would be the point in any petition? It's a done deal.

For gods sake give it up.Sky are not interested in petty nonsense like this.They got the deal,live with it.

It's been reported on SSN that the deal will cover 5 bears games only. Not enough to make me part with my dosh. Will pump it into RTV instead

Watch the games on the internet! all the tims do it.

31 Jul 2012 10:44:03
So the SFA have asked Charles Green to explain his remark regarding bigitry

Does that mean that they agree with the jealousy and hatred part of his statememt? because if thats the case bigotry is means of hatred? or am i wrong?

I for one beleive what Mr Green said is 100% correct and i dont think there should be any problem explaining his comments based on how anyone outwith Rangers has treated us over the lasr few months

They have asked him to explain. That means they want him to say what he meant and what his evidence is for making such a statement. It implies neither acceptance or rejection of his claims.

What a ridiculous post which only serves to highlight that you are indeed a BIGOT!! VEGIEBHOY

They think they are clever by saying they will let him off if he can prove it. So he should play them at their own game and turn up with a dictionary, and show them the part that says bigotry : stuborn and complete intolerance of opinion that differs from ones own. It is well documented that the spl were stubborn and intolerant of any Rangers opinion. Then the ball would be back in Regan's court, and he would then have to prove that this wasn't what Green meant.

This is simple then....if you agree with his statement, you tell us all what was bigoted about it?

....and yes, you are wrong, a bigot is a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, especially on religion, politics, or race


so, please, tell us where the bigotry from 'certain people' is so 100% true for you



taco

Difference is that bigotry is a loaded word in Scottish football whereas the other two words can probably be applied wherever there is competition.

I would be interested in how he explains this. Hopefully nothing to do with sectarianism and maybe he'll say it has to do with being anti-Rangers for the sake of it.

The SFA and others who are making noises about charlies statement dont even know the true meaning of the word

JG

Taco - intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, particularly pointed against a body or group - Celtic Supporters Association said that they would boycott any club that voted Rangers into the SPL - surely you can see how this fits the description above - you are talking about religious bigotry or sectarianism but at know point did he refer to this - unfortunately for the West of Scotland the guy has made an accurate comment that our small minds struggle to grasp - although admittedly Vincent Lunny has made a real ass of himself over this

31 Jul 2012 07:48:03
I keep hearing people shouting for money to be spent on players, get the cheque book out mr green etc.

Let's be honest here, the players available on free transfers ie dean sheils, Kevin Kyle, Craig Beattie, Gary Kenneth etc should all be good enough to see us through to the SPL, and I'm sure there will be others I've missed out. Saving money on transfer fees is what we should be doing considering the state we were in before. Let's get the money into profit before we start spending again or the same thing will happen again.

Another point I want to make is why are we going for older, injury prone guys like Kyle, and the Greek guy? Surely we should be going for guys in there early 20s with a chance of a good sell on fee, that was one of the mistakes we made last time around and I think we should be building a younger team anyway for when we do get back into the SPL. That is all guys.

Jas

Kenneth has gone to Bristol rovers. Kyle ok if pay as you play (won't cost much then)

Blueice

He wont spend much as he has,nt got it, are we all still thinking he does ? he wont be honest and tell us this , thats the one thing we should all understand already , the one thing Green is not is HONEST.

31 Jul 2012 05:36:26
Well little bears......any ideas for your new team name after liquidation is complete? Obviously it can't be Rangers, so what else do you think would suit??

Hail Hail
ChrisBhoy

Well Sevco changed the company name to The rangers football club today

The rangers football club limited is the new name just hope we can win as many titles as the old club did

New name rangers ys tube

The RANGERS

Em the rangers see all this nonsense about not being allowed to have rangers in the new name is complete tosh. Wimbledon went bust and two teams evolved one called mk dons and the other em afc Wimbledon. So chrisbhoy stop thinking you will get rid of rangers it ain't going to happen {Ed001's Note - Wimbledon never went bust, they were bought by new owners who wanted to relocate them, there was no liquidation.}

Read it on BBC that we will be called Rangers Football Club Limited. The SFA share will be transfered over and we will be in essence the same club. CheltBlue

Well numb nuts you obviously dont know about the name change, then.

Regardless of our name, i'm pretty certain you lot will still have an unhealthy fascination with our club.
J1985

Eh its called the rangers .... rangers for short ...

As long as D&P agree to the new name then the proper procedures will have been taken. Then no one can take it away. R-M

30 Jul 2012 22:33:58
I posted on here a couple of weeks ago that we were denied entry to SPL due to bigotry. The numerous visitors to this site said in no uncertain terms that this was rubbish.

Well I see I have one supporter, Mr Charles Green.

The problem with this country is that the minute you mention
bigotry, the old Proddie, Tim thing raises its ugly head.

I see Celtic have stated that they have no comment to make on Mr Greens comments. I do not know why they were asked in the first place.

The dictionary definition of bigotry is as follows - "intolerance of creed, belief, OR OPINION that differs from one's own".

Which is exactly why SPL clubs voted against.

The problem is that the fans of other clubs are bigoted against Rangers, as Rangers fans are bigoted against them. It is part of being a football fan, you love your team, you detest others. We would have done the same if Celtic had been in our position.

The real problem however is the narrow minded, bigoted nation that we are, especially when it comes to sport.

Perhaps before journalists put this question to Celtic they should check the definition of the word used. When I went to school you had to excel at English to become a journalist. You would expect them to know the definition of a word. Or are they well aware of the definition but would prefer to stir it.

It wasnt the bigotry word that puzzled me it was the jealousy Now tell me why would anyone be jealous of a club that has gone into liquidation and been demoted to third division Mr Green just trying to get fans onside to buy season tickets

Creating a siege mentality will no doubt help to flog a few more Season Tickets whenever they start to go on sale.

Spot on mate, exactly the point I was going to make. I hope people digest what you are saying.

Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".[1] Bigotry may be based on real or perceived characteristics, including age, disability, dissension from popular opinions, economic status, ethnicity, gender identity, language, nationality, personal habits, political alignment, race, region, religious or spiritual belief, sex, or sexual orientation

Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.. Think Mr Green meant in his statement the last part of this definition in realtion to his percieved views that Scotland is a bigoted nation mainly on religous views! and becuase he in his wisdom thinks everyone is either a, Rangers or Celtic fanm in this country. He is a typical stereo of someone who knows nothing about a nation other than whats he has picked up in the media( he probably thought we all wore kilts and ate haggis),
Mr Green thinks we are a nation who are religously intolerant and has shown his own bigoted views in his recent rants.
This man doesnt know this country and unfortunatly doesnt care about it either.
He will be the catalyst to trouble in our game as he travels the road to profit .. ignorance is bliss but at what price.